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Apparently the gun was drawn for several reasons. Firstly, threats of racially tinged violence had already been issued several times against the Wuestenbergs. Secondly, when Eric (the husband) finally came over and, with his physical presence, moved the daughter away from the passenger door so that his wife was no longer blocked from getting in, and she did get in, and they sought to pull back to drive away, they couldn't. This is because the mother (older black woman) made contact with the rear of the car (slapping it several times), and this vehicle had a feature that would automatically apply the breaks and not permit movement if it sensed someone immediately behind it (good reason never to buy a vehicle with this feature). The result was that they were now trapped.

Next wrinkle in the story that we hadn't heard, is that a crowd of blacks was (from several directions) converging on the scene while this was happening (not seen in the video, since coming from the other direction). At this point the car became a death trap (windows are not a defense against a mob), and both being military vets, they understood the need to regain mobility, i.e., get out of the vehicle. As soon as Jillian got out, the daughter charged towards her with an aggressive posture (not seen in video). It was at this point that the gun was drawn and presented, and the urgent command given to back away and stay clear of the rear of the vehicle, so they could escape the potentially escalating scene.

Shines a new light on the situation, doesn't it?
I thought all of that was obvious in the video, except for the presence of a converging mob and the auto-braking feature of the car.
Originally Posted by RiverRider
I thought all of that was obvious in the video, except for the presence of a converging mob and the auto-braking feature of the car.

Just putting those new facts in context.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Apparently the gun was drawn for several reasons. Firstly, threats of racially tinged violence had already been issued several times against the Wuestenbergs. Secondly, when Eric (the husband) finally came over and, with his physical presence, moved the daughter away from the passenger door so that his wife was no longer blocked from getting in, and she did get in, and they sought to pull back to drive away, they couldn't. This is because the mother (older black woman) made contact with the rear of the car (slapping it several times), and this vehicle had a feature that would automatically apply the breaks and not permit movement if it sensed someone immediately behind it (good reason never to buy a vehicle with this feature). The result was that they were now trapped. Next wrinkle in the story that we hadn't heard, is that a crowd of blacks was (from several directions) converging on the scene while this was happening (not seen in the video, since coming from the other direction). At this point the car became a death trap (windows are not a defense against a mob), and both being military vets, they understood the need to regain mobility, i.e., get out of the vehicle. As soon as Jillian got out, the daughter charged towards her with an aggressive posture (not seen in video). It was at this point that the gun was drawn, and the command was given to back away and stay clear of the rear of the vehicle, so they could escape the potentially escalating scene.

Shines a new light on the situation, doesn't it?


Among the like minded - here - it will be justified. In the court of public opinion, the case has already been tried. No new evidence will be disseminated on the major political platforms (media). The new agenda is an operation to establish criminality for self defense.

That hesitation, in fear of legal action, could cost you your life.

Psyops continue....
Our Toyota has a similar feature but it's disabled by a simple push of a button on the dash. A disconnect is necessary both for safety and because you can't pull a trailer with it engaged. Granted, in the heat of the moment, he might not have taken time to figure out the buttons on the dash. They get confusing.
The unfortunate element is that they will not likely be able to reference the race of the perps, nor of the crowd that was converging on them, as part of their defense, since the mere fact that they noticed the commonality of their race would be a mark against them in a self-defense case, despite the fact that black on White violence (particularly in groups) is a thing in the current climate.
At this point, since they are both under indictment for a felony, their concealed carry licenses have been suspended, all the while the MSM has painted a target on their backs ("A racist White couple pulled a gun on an unarmed black mother and daughter due to a disagreement over common courtesy") for media-enraged blacks. They are currently the recipients of a regular stream of racially tinged threats of violence via home phone.
Trial by media - the New Normal.
I'm not familiar with the story. Can you post the video? So these people are locked up because they pulled their weapon? Were shots fired?
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Trial by media - the New Normal.

When the targets of the MSM are Whites accused of victimizing blacks. That's the MSM's "White Whale," a la Captain Ahab.

PS The husband was fired from his job as soon at the MSM reports came out.
Originally Posted by StoneCutter
I'm not familiar with the story. Can you post the video? So these people are locked up because they pulled their weapon? Were shots fired?


Some victims are going to have to win in court to get this BS stopped. Right now prosecutors are under the microscope of the leftist media.

kwg
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by StoneCutter
I'm not familiar with the story. Can you post the video? So these people are locked up because they pulled their weapon? Were shots fired?




Thanks. These black folk do stupid aggressive stuff and then want to be the victim. Now these people are in hot water for trying to protect themselves.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by RiverRider
I thought all of that was obvious in the video, except for the presence of a converging mob and the auto-braking feature of the car.

Just putting those new facts in context.


They deserve a medal for not chooting.
I'm surprised that some White person hasn't dropped about 20 feral nigs by now. It's coming.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Apparently the gun was drawn for several reasons. Firstly, threats of racially tinged violence had already been issued several times against the Wuestenbergs. Secondly, when Eric (the husband) finally came over and, with his physical presence, moved the daughter away from the passenger door so that his wife was no longer blocked from getting in, and she did get in, and they sought to pull back to drive away, they couldn't. This is because the mother (older black woman) made contact with the rear of the car (slapping it several times), and this vehicle had a feature that would automatically apply the breaks and not permit movement if it sensed someone immediately behind it (good reason never to buy a vehicle with this feature). The result was that they were now trapped.

Next wrinkle in the story that we hadn't heard, is that a crowd of blacks was (from several directions) converging on the scene while this was happening (not seen in the video, since coming from the other direction). At this point the car became a death trap (windows are not a defense against a mob), and both being military vets, they understood the need to regain mobility, i.e., get out of the vehicle. As soon as Jillian got out, the daughter charged towards her with an aggressive posture (not seen in video). It was at this point that the gun was drawn and presented, and the urgent command given to back away and stay clear of the rear of the vehicle, so they could escape the potentially escalating scene.

Shines a new light on the situation, doesn't it?
Thanks for the update and new info Hawk. It certainly totally justifies their actions LEGALLY, in my mind. To me, they were already justified and the rest are just fine points. These mobs ain't playing and anybody that doesn't realize that should stay home and take advantage of all the nice deliveries.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Trial by media - the New Normal.

When the targets of the MSM are Whites accused of victimizing blacks. That's the MSM's "White Whale," a la Captain Ahab.

PS The husband was fired from his job as soon at the MSM reports came out.




Good thing I don't have to worry about being fired.

Hey, Can I fire myself? LOL
I keep a coffee can full of loose Newports in the back seat for just such occasions.
Toss them out... Drive away!
Like deploying chaff to redirect a heat sealing middle.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
The unfortunate element is that they will not likely be able to reference the race of the perps, nor of the crowd that was converging on them, as part of their defense, since the mere fact that they noticed the commonality of their race would be a mark against them in a self-defense case, despite the fact that black on White violence (particularly in groups) is a thing in the current climate.

I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know much about court proceedings. Can a DA or judge actually seek to prevent crime statistics from being introduced as defense exhibits? If that information is entirely relevant to their state of mind, and their judgment of the situation, can it really be not allowed? Couldn't their lawyer(s) seek to have the proceedings declared a mistrial, or simply have a perfect case for an appeal? It seems like the race of the threatening individuals would be of utmost importance, since those individuals actually brought race into the situation.
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Trial by media - the New Normal.

When the targets of the MSM are Whites accused of victimizing blacks. That's the MSM's "White Whale," a la Captain Ahab.

PS The husband was fired from his job as soon at the MSM reports came out.




Good thing I don't have to worry about being fired.

Hey, Can I fire myself? LOL

You should, you damned racist. Then you should sue yourself for wrongful termination. Then you should settle out of court with yourself and let your insurance cover the cost. Then you should rehire yourself at a substantial raise. Win-win.
Video never presents all the facts or context.
The race and/or political affiliation of the person taking and editing the video also has to be considered. GD
Hell I’ve done worse than that back in the ‘80s, including holding blacks at gunpoint and shooting over one’s head.
Playing the "Race Card"

A farmer friend of mine had a disagreement with a young woman at the DMV over the regulations for plating one of his semi tractors. After several minutes of frustration, he asked the clerk (young black woman) to see her supervisor (old white guy).

Her reply, "You're just being RACIST because I don't agree with you!"

"Honey, I'm not mad at you because you're black, I"m mad because you're stupid!"
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Trial by media - the New Normal.

When the targets of the MSM are Whites accused of victimizing blacks. That's the MSM's "White Whale," a la Captain Ahab.

PS The husband was fired from his job as soon at the MSM reports came out.


Henceforward, probably now forever, a white is not ever likely to win any kind a case against a black, no matter what the real circumstances are.

Best practice is to go out of your way to never allow yourself to be put into that position.

But if you're backed into a corner, literally or figuratively, then it's another story................just best not to let that happen.

MM
I assume this is the interview from which TRH got those extra facts; it’s a good one and there is a link where donations can be made to help these folks.
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Our Toyota has a hi similar
feature but it's disabled by a simple push of a
button on the dash..... Granted, in the heat of the
moment, he might not have taken time to figure
out the buttons on the dash....


So their vehicle would have such a disable switch?
and neither of the vets cared to know how
to maintain tactical Life saving mobility
as TRH likes to think of it .. LoL

Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye

(good reason never to buy a vehicle with this
feature).


Or just take time to learn the features of
your vehicle like Rock Chuck had the sense
to do.

No doubt there's two sides to every story
and the truth is somewhere in between.

TRH, where is the source you used to
create the narrative you gave?. you often
get things wrong in your posts that they
can't be taken at face value.


Originally Posted by Starman
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Our Toyota has a hi similar
feature but it's disabled by a simple push of a
button on the dash..... Granted, in the heat of the
moment, he might not have taken time to figure
out the buttons on the dash....


So their vehicle would have such a disable switch?
and neither of the vets cared to know how
to maintain tactical Life saving mobility
as TRH likes to think of it .. LoL

Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye

(good reason never to buy a vehicle with this
feature).


Or just take time to learn the features of
your vehicle like Rock Chuck had the sense
to do.

No doubt there's two sides to every story
and the truth is somewhere in between.

TRH, where is the source you used to
create the narrative you gave?. you often
get things wrong in your posts that they
can't be taken at face value.


You're a needling, lying sack of rotting shixt. FO you worthless shixt-eating bird.
I can't wait for this to play out in court, After it's done I can shove it up a certain persons ass, right next to Georges Floyds drugs......
Originally Posted by ringworm
I keep a coffee can full of loose Newports in the back seat for just such occasions.
Toss them out... Drive away!
Like deploying chaff to redirect a heat sealing middle.


And Now-&-Laters
This guy has some good commentary on it.

That's a different kind of "Karen" , right there...
Originally Posted by kwg020
Some victims are going to have to win in court to get this BS stopped. Right now prosecutors are under the microscope of the leftist media.

kwg


Soros has put a lot of prosecutors into office which makes it difficult to receive justice.
Has this even made it to a grand jury yet?
Originally Posted by Tyrone
Has this even made it to a grand jury yet?

Good question.
If the Mob had been all white people, their house would have never been raided nor guns confiscated.
Originally Posted by reivertom
If the Mob had been all white people, their house would have never been raided nor guns confiscated.

Wrong case.
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