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Can’t recall the last time I went swimming, I mean actual swimming as opposed to wading in the surf or cooling off in some creek. Might have been two decades back or more when my son was a youth.

Took the Kid to a pool today. OMG, if the ferry capsized I’d be one of them going down with the ship.

I was a fair hand once, obviously I need to get back into it, seems like a perfect exercise for older folks.
Our kids HS swim/dive team had T-shirts that said;

If swimming was easy,
It’d be called football!
Originally Posted by ironbender
Our kids HS swim/dive team had T-shirts that said;

If swimming was easy,
It’d be called football!



IIRC the swim team kids are at it by 6:30am, even earlier than the Marching Band and Cross Country kids, every school day in season. The swim team kids often fall asleep in class, I usually let them.
We used to go through massive amounts of carbs during swim season.

Football coach thought it would be a good idea to “cross train” his players w some swimming. They are strong kids but had no clue how to swim, sadly. Especially here.

No way they could do thousands of yards in the pool. Daughter had 5-7 am swim practice plus 3-5 pm in college. Volleyball coach asked the swim coach “ how do you get them to show up @ 5am? If you sleep, you’re not on the team. Simple.
It's great exercise and I gotta get back into it. Learned how to swim not too long after I got out of diapers. Grew up swimming in Lake Ontario and in the St. Lawrence River, Thousand Islands area. Was a 500 yard freestyler on the swim team in high school. Spent one summer ( 1970 ) of my military service as a lifeguard at the military beach of Camp LeJeune, N.C. ( Onslow Beach).. Got into scuba diving in the mid 1970's to mid 80's.. Turned 70 this year and been away from swimming for several years. I could use some good healthy exercise. I should get back to swimming.
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Can’t recall the last time I went swimming, I mean actual swimming as opposed to wading in the surf or cooling off in some creek. Might have been two decades back or more when my son was a youth.

Took the Kid to a pool today. OMG, if the ferry capsized I’d be one of them going down with the ship.

I was a fair hand once, obviously I need to get back into it, seems like a perfect exercise for older folks.


How ironic (I think that’s the proper word), as I just discovered the very same thing about 3 weeks ago. We just got our pool “up and running”. It’s only 32 feet long, and making 2 passes was a bit difficult. Doing better now, but darn sure couldn’t do the “mile swim” like I used to when I was in scouts.....I might make 100 yards if it were life or death! memtb
i was always a good swimmer but even in my best shape, i found it to be harder than any other exercise, running, lifting, etc. it is a total workout. i did the mile swim in boy scouts and i gotta tell ya, i'm glad there was a shallow end.
My boys were both swimmers.

One summer all three of us were working salmon canning processing, as was one of their classmates/ swimming member. Said member was doing 12 hours day at the fish-factory, then, with my boys, going to swimming practice, and then partying (not my boys, to be clear).

He fell asleep swimming laps and crashed head first into the wall...

He ain't never going to live that down.
Originally Posted by las
My boys were both swimmers.

One summer all three of us were working salmon canning processing, as was one of their classmates/ swimming member. Said member was doing 12 hours day at the fish-factory, then, with my boys, going to swimming practice, and then partying (not my boys, to be clear).

He fell asleep swimming laps and crashed head first into the wall...

He ain't never going to live that down.

That boy got skeelz!
Yeah, he had a full ride scholarship but f**ed it away on drugs.. Idiot.

But a damned good swimmer!
I believe that beer is less dense than water.

You need more beer.
Originally Posted by ironbender
Our kids HS swim/dive team had T-shirts that said;

If swimming was easy,
It’d be called football!






ib, That's a good one!
I used to swim like a fish. Now I swim like a walrus.
My grandson's adult friend jsut found out the hard way you can't just pick up where you left off. He swam out too far and didn't make it back. His funeral was just the other day.
Try swimming when drunk

I’ve been told it’s about impossible by one who almost drowned trying to.

He swam on the LSU swimming team in his college days.
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Try swimming when drunk

I’ve been told it’s about impossible by one who almost drowned trying to.

He swam on the LSU swimming team in his college days.

Might depend on level of drunkenness. Two stories about alcohol and the Ohio river...

High School buddy got drunk one night. On a dare, climbed up onto the catwalk under the Daniel Carter Beard (I-471 "Big Mac") bridge that crosses the Ohio river between Newport, KY and Cincinnati, OH (2,100ft span). And jumped into the river from the middle of the bridge. Being drunk and disoriented, when he popped up, he swam toward the Cincinnati shoreline. When he was almost to shore, he noticed that the Cincinnati PD had a 'Welcoming Committee" waiting to receive him. So, he turned around and swam back across the river to the KY side. And survived.

My buddy was physically fit. Not so impressed that he was able to swim 1,000 yards even while drunk enough to jump 50-60 feet into the water on a dare. However, in retrospect, very surprised that he did not get run over by speed boaters or river barges in the process. Very active river traffic in that section of the river during the summer, even at night.

OTOH, first wife's uncle was partying on the river in his run about. Also a strong swimmer. Stood up on the transom to take a pee. Fell in. Did not pop up until 3 days later.
Originally Posted by Orion2000
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Try swimming when drunk

I’ve been told it’s about impossible by one who almost drowned trying to.

He swam on the LSU swimming team in his college days.

Might depend on level of drunkenness. Two stories about alcohol and the Ohio river...

High School buddy got drunk one night. On a dare, climbed up onto the catwalk under the Daniel Carter Beard (I-471 "Big Mac") bridge that crosses the Ohio river between Newport, KY and Cincinnati, OH (2,100ft span). And jumped into the river from the middle of the bridge. Being drunk and disoriented, when he popped up, he swam toward the Cincinnati shoreline. When he was almost to shore, he noticed that the Cincinnati PD had a 'Welcoming Committee" waiting to receive him. So, he turned around and swam back across the river to the KY side. And survived.

My buddy was physically fit. Not so impressed that he was able to swim 1,000 yards even while drunk enough to jump 50-60 feet into the water on a dare. However, in retrospect, very surprised that he did not get run over by speed boaters or river barges in the process. Very active river traffic in that section of the river during the summer, even at night.

OTOH, first wife's uncle was partying on the river in his run about. Also a strong swimmer. Stood up on the transom to take a pee. Fell in. Did not pop up until 3 days later.




Thinking that your buddy probably sobered up about halfway into that jump when realizing what he was doing !
Grins
You go on water in my boat, you wear a PFD
I swam competitively for 20 years and still try to swim 2000 yards 3 times a week. I can still do it at 59 years old, but it’s nothing compared to when I did 13000+ yards a day. After college I was active in the masters swimming. It’s great low impact excersize. My kids all swam competitively through college. IMO, there’s not a better sport. I remember the daily 5 am practice before school, and again after school. 4+hr/day practices. I remember very well the football players and wrestlers that were sent by their coaches to cross train with us, none of them lasted more than 2 weeks, they just couldn’t handle the pain or grueling schedule. They couldn’t believe what we went through day in and day out. It paid off for me and my kids, full scholarships, healthy lifestyle, strong bodies, school/regional records, lots of travel and recently we weighed their medals/awards - 52 pounds, a huge wall-full of medals and trophies. We’re very proud of them!
My mom sent me to swimming lesson at age 6.
The whole 9 yards of that from bubble breathing to autralian crawl.

Got certified as a Red Cross lifesaver as a 12 yr old at the state YMCA summer camp in Maine.
Down at Cobossacontee lake. IIRC
Probably about 8 of us did the course out of 250 300 kids their that summer.
Took the entire 2 weeks of summer camp.
All the other kids" swimming " in the roped off area.
Us 8 out in "open water" toiling away.
Was kinda a cred thing for us though.
Got my 1st hand full of tittie from some girl named cynthia doing cross chest behind the back sidestroke tows.

Lol!!!

Always enjoyed ROCKFISH and their antics doing CWST training in the Army over the years.
Comic gold stuff watching them.
Fugga,s need kids arm floaties and kick boards if they could use em
just to stay afloat.
Tread water for 10 mins.... Lol!!!
Later sinker.........
Say hello to Davey Jones and check out his locker while your down their.
Never seen a species of mammal so fugging terrified of water.


LOL!!!
I don’t know if I can or not.
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Try swimming when drunk

I’ve been told it’s about impossible by one who almost drowned trying to.

He swam on the LSU swimming team in his college days.

............ 50 years ago this summer I plucked a few drunken marines out of the Atlantic Ocean at Camp LeJeune N.C. at the base beach as a lifeguard. They'd get out too far and then out of the swimming area, then they were obviously struggling and we'd go get'em. They weren't drowning yet; but were working on it. Put them in a tired swimmers carry and haul 'em into shallow water. One guy almost puked all over me on the way in. Interesting times.
Thats why I keep my BMI up high. That way if I wear out In the water I just roll over and float.
Swimming well requires good technique
Without good technique most all energy exerted is wasted.

Use to swim well, but it has been too many years, so i dont push it or risk it. And swimming is boring, even more boring than a treadmill.
I can swim, but I suck at it.

The wife is a great swimmer. I look like I’m trying to beat 5he water into submission and she cruises right by looking effortless.
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Can’t recall the last time I went swimming, I mean actual swimming as opposed to wading in the surf or cooling off in some creek. Might have been two decades back or more when my son was a youth.

Took the Kid to a pool today. OMG, if the ferry capsized I’d be one of them going down with the ship.

I was a fair hand once, obviously I need to get back into it, seems like a perfect exercise for older folks.


I have a pool in my yard and rarely use it. I got in it yesterday and tried to swim some short (32') laps. I realized I am a poor swimmer now. I'm sure it's a muscle memory thing but I felt the same. In rough water I could be in trouble. I am going to work on it.
A story on how much Military bases have changed.

This was around 1973....

My brother served out most of his four-year Army enlistment as an MP on West Point close to where our family lived. Each summer some Airborne guys would be there to train with the Cadets.

One night my brother brung me and my cousin on base for an after hours party involving the West Point outdoor swimming pool, I was prob’ly a junior in high school at the time, my cousin a year older.

Of course the drunk Airborne guys were climbing the ladder up to the Olympic-type high board and jumping off. Heights have never been my thing but I did it too, once. Just ran straight off the edge into space, never would have had the nerve sober.

I can’t imagine that sorta thing happening today.
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Orion2000
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Try swimming when drunk

I’ve been told it’s about impossible by one who almost drowned trying to.

He swam on the LSU swimming team in his college days.

Might depend on level of drunkenness. Two stories about alcohol and the Ohio river...

High School buddy got drunk one night. On a dare, climbed up onto the catwalk under the Daniel Carter Beard (I-471 "Big Mac") bridge that crosses the Ohio river between Newport, KY and Cincinnati, OH (2,100ft span). And jumped into the river from the middle of the bridge. Being drunk and disoriented, when he popped up, he swam toward the Cincinnati shoreline. When he was almost to shore, he noticed that the Cincinnati PD had a 'Welcoming Committee" waiting to receive him. So, he turned around and swam back across the river to the KY side. And survived.

My buddy was physically fit. Not so impressed that he was able to swim 1,000 yards even while drunk enough to jump 50-60 feet into the water on a dare. However, in retrospect, very surprised that he did not get run over by speed boaters or river barges in the process. Very active river traffic in that section of the river during the summer, even at night.

OTOH, first wife's uncle was partying on the river in his run about. Also a strong swimmer. Stood up on the transom to take a pee. Fell in. Did not pop up until 3 days later.




Thinking that your buddy probably sobered up about halfway into that jump when realizing what he was doing !
Grins

This particular friend continued to be a "wild child" until he had an aneurysm at age 21 and his first child a couple years later. Settled down significantly. Recently retired after 38 years with the same company... A coworker made the same jump at a later date. Also under the influence. However was not spotted in the process. Only had to swim half the river.
We had alot of rock quarries in our area growing up.
Granite that built alot of buildings in the 19th century all over the east coast.
Lots of spots on the Rivers with cliffs also 15 20 ft, some pretty elaborate tarzan swings and launch spot in trees.

Party time places.
Rock quarries had 40 50 60 ft cliffs.
You were a puzz if ya didnt jump.
Water freezing cold about 7 8 ft down from the jump.
Places mostly spring fed when the quarry got deep and punched em open.
Most located on high ground back then to advoid springs from flooding out a quarry pumps couldnt keep pace with.
Over decades the springs settled down in some quarries and dont rim out a quarry.
Or they complete go dry over time and have 0 water except for rain.
Color and consistency/grain of the granite was a big thing they was after also.

Climbing back up in spots if ya fell, no biggie just fall in the water.
Other spots to climb up you would advoid cause it was a stepped in cut going back up. Crash and burn on bottom rocks.
People in some quarries spray painted climb up areas
And crash and burn ledge rock at water level.
No jump places....
One place we went still had the old crane boom tower offset in the quarry that was about 75 ft
Some people had rigged platforms on it and drove in metal rods to climb up.
Did the top platform 60 65 ft on bets many times usually involving doobies and newbs at that place.


Locally Commercial fishermen teach their kids that to go into the water is to die. Nobody can swim for long in 39 degree water.
A plunge into ice-cold water knocks your breathing outta whack—50% of people over 50 have a heart-attack and the rest of deaths are because people breath in giant gulps of water.
In Marine Emergency Duty class we are now teaching people that if you fall in cold water—here’s what you do—absolutely nothing—get your breathing under control first. You will be able to help yourself for a few minutes if you can get your breathing under control—hypothermia will take at least 20 minutes to kill you.
I’m like Richard—get in my boat only after you put on the PFD.
Karl, I tell people in other boats to wear one. That suggestion is often met with great scorn. laugh
Rope swing, Yellow Creek mill pond, cooler of miller lite, one-hitter
The old notion that a bad day fishing is better than a good day at work, is not true if someone drowns.
Originally Posted by wabigoon
Karl, I tell people in other boats to wear one. That suggestion is often met with great scorn. laugh



Do you wear the orange retard PFD that has “JO-ANN” written on the back?

😃😃
Originally Posted by renegade50
We had alot of rock quarries in our area growing up.
Granite that built alot of buildings in the 19th century all over the east coast.
Lots of spots on the Rivers with cliffs also 15 20 ft, some pretty elaborate tarzan swings and launch spot in trees.

Party time places.
Rock quarries had 40 50 60 ft cliffs.
You were a puzz if ya didnt jump.
Water freezing cold about 7 8 ft down from the jump.
Places mostly spring fed when the quarry got deep and punched em open.
Most located on high ground back then to advoid springs from flooding out a quarry pumps couldnt keep pace with.
Over decades the springs settled down in some quarries and dont rim out a quarry.
Or they complete go dry over time and have 0 water except for rain.
Color and consistency/grain of the granite was a big thing they was after also.

Climbing back up in spots if ya fell, no biggie just fall in the water.
Other spots to climb up you would advoid cause it was a stepped in cut going back up. Crash and burn on bottom rocks.
People in some quarries spray painted climb up areas
And crash and burn ledge rock at water level.
No jump places....
One place we went still had the old crane boom tower offset in the quarry that was about 75 ft
Some people had rigged platforms on it and drove in metal rods to climb up.
Did the top platform 60 65 ft on bets many times usually involving doobies and newbs at that place.



Sounds like you would have loved this place them. Primarily jumped at the "Clam" (0:52 in) as it had the best water under it on lower tides. Still had to wait and time the swell on some days. Clam was 30'-35' depending on tide usually. Bet you didn't have to wait and time the swell in those quarries. Dead man's was exactly that ............a good place to die. We had fun with newbs too. Over to the NE of the cliffs the Clam is on, past Dead Man's, was a parking area we'd use with newbs with us. Trail ran from there along the cliffs toward Dead Man's and the Clam area. Would walk them a few minutes, stop and lay down the towels and coolers, walk over to the edge and say 'Yep, this is our spot. Y'all ready". Worked wonders on some friends and relatives from the Midwest. 100'-150' depending where we happened to stop, rocks all over the bottom. They'd say no way, we'd say yeah, you just have to aim good and time the swell, maybe there's 8' of water there. Miss the timing and there's only 5'..........so don't miss the timing. grin

We'd then pick up our scheidt and head to the Clam.




Had loads of fun with the tourists too. One of our guys could hold his breath for 3.5 -4 minutes. He'd jump off the Clam, swim underwater into the cave behind it so they couldn't see him. Then he'd dead man float out, right into the middle of the Clam. We'd make a big deal "Where'd he go. He's been under a long time". When he came out the tourists be saying "jump in and save him" and we say, can't or we'll break his back, no safe place to land. After a few minutes of this, he'd roll over and wave to the crowd!

Drunk Sailors and Marines from MCRD on their first leave were always fun. 18-19 yo, drunk, never seen an ocean, waves, or cliff in their lives before. More than a few we had to get the lifeguards from down at La Jolla cove to come and haul them to a hospital with cuts from the rocks and stuff.
I use that kill switch as well. Playing footsie with that prop don't appeal much to me.
Never wore a pfd canoeing the Chena in Fairbanks. Figured if ya fell in and could not stand up and walk to the bank, it’s fitting. 🤔
Originally Posted by wabigoon
I use that kill switch as well. Playing footsie with that prop don't appeal much to me.

Never been able to wear a life vest but won't start a outboard without the kill switch hooked to my belt. We need to start wearing a inflatable vest, kind of dumb not to at our age.
If you buy a self inflating PFD, keep in mind dropping it in water while carrying it will set it off, even a small puddle.

Originally Posted by TrueGrit
Originally Posted by wabigoon
I use that kill switch as well. Playing footsie with that prop don't appeal much to me.

Never been able to wear a life vest but won't start a outboard without the kill switch hooked to my belt. We need to start wearing a inflatable vest, kind of dumb not to at our age.


Originally Posted by wabigoon
If you buy a self inflating PFD, keep in mind dropping it in water while carrying it will set it off, even a small puddle.



and be sure to get in the water with it and know where they manual inflation tube is and how to get it. It would really suck if the automatic inflator failed................and they do. The refit parts kits are cheap insurance if you test them in the water once a year.
Had ta do lot of water training in louisana to get your offshore rig pass.
Had ta recert on it all to work on the Black sea also.

Going into a helicopter dunker upright with rockfish is fun.
Going in, then submerged and flipping upside down with rockfish is even better.
Yes you can hear screaming underwater.
unbelievable dumb ass.... you just lost all your air to work your rebreather.

LOL!!!


Some of the schitt they made us do for 4 days of fire and water training that I was seeing.

Got me to thinking the last thing I wanta experience is being in the water any lenghty amount of time with some of the rockfish coworkers , and the only ones I would reasonably try to help to survive would be ones staying calm and not waste energy on panicked ones who wont calm down just based on training for it and seeing how some of em were just in that.

Kinda funny in training I was looking at rockfish to help and rockfish to not waste energy on .
Your a weak swimmer and proven prone to panic in a training envoirment.
Schit gets real,,, it wont be pretty like in a pool and simulator.

Originally Posted by renegade50
Had ta do lot of water training in louisana to get your offshore rig pass.
Had ta recert on it all to work on the Black sea also.

Going into a helicopter dunker upright with rockfish is fun.
Going in, then submerged and flipping upside down with rockfish is even better.
Yes you can hear screaming underwater.
unbelievable dumb ass.... you just lost all your air to work your rebreather.

LOL!!!


Some of the schitt they made us do for 4 days of fire and water training that I was seeing.

Got me to thinking the last thing I wanta experience is being in the water any lenghty amount of time with some of the rockfish coworkers , and the only ones I would reasonably try to help to survive would be ones staying calm and not waste energy on panicked ones who wont calm down just based on training for it and seeing how some of em were just in that.

Kinda funny in training I was looking at rockfish to help and rockfish to not waste energy on .
Your a weak swimmer and proven prone to panic in a training envoirment.
Schit gets real,,, it wont be pretty like in a pool and simulator.



Offshore Water Survival and Fire Fighting Training are good courses to have taken.
Never knew how to swim, The best i could do it 4" on a swimming pool. i just keep getting down into the water no matter what i do.
Just cant stay ontop. But i have always want to know how too as i find it very fascinating.
Spent the past 3 days[evenings] floating.
About half of the time I swam alongside of the Yak.
Feeling it today!

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