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Who is this "we" you talk about, Kemosabi?
Originally Posted by Theo Gallus
Who is this "we" you talk about, Kemosabi?


We that don't want to lose the country to leftist scum. Do you live in a deep hole?
Certainly not on an internet chat room!
Originally Posted by Hotrod_Lincoln
Certainly not on an internet chat room!


Why not, you've got to play to your strengths.
We aren't. That will be done by adapting as we go. As is always the case. There is liable to be serious national upheaval if Trump achieves re-election. There will be serious repression if a Biden (actually Kamala Harris) is elected. Obama's executive orders were just the warm up.
Yes
Originally Posted by rickt300
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Checkout American Contingency
"Haves and have not's"

Those who have exercised their 2A rights, and those that Have not.
About a month back, activists decided to have a demonstration in our county seat, with out-of -towners joining in, I believe from Ashland OR. Local opposition guys organized via landline phone tree, and then posted a public offer of intervention on ...gulp...Facebook to local merchants. Turned out, there was no violence or property damage, so nothing hit the fan. Whether the presence of legally armed observers was a factor in BLM behaving themselves...we will never know.
Uh did ya miss the last 50 years?

The poo hit the fan along time ago.
American Contingency.

https://www.americancontingency.com/
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Water finds it's own level.

Good will prevail.
Originally Posted by MontanaCreekHunter
Originally Posted by rickt300
Any ideas? Upgraded neighborhood watch?



Checkout American Contingency

Done.
Originally Posted by Hastings
We aren't. That will be done by adapting as we go. As is always the case. There is liable to be serious national upheaval if Trump achieves re-election. There will be serious repression if a Biden (actually Kamala Harris) is elected. Obama's executive orders were just the warm up.


There will be a serious national upheaval no matter who wins election. We are presently watching a serious problem get larger with the Antifa communists/ BLM communists, communist governors and mayors refusing to enforce laws.
Checked it out and joined.
Joined
Originally Posted by rickt300
Any ideas? Upgraded neighborhood watch?



Friends and neighbors you know and trust. Also, 'folders of accountability' for everybody within 5 miles who you know are the enemy. As well as local politicians who have shown their asses to the world, because they will be chosen to lead a "Vichy-styled" government when the SHTF.

And, it's more than just having a few rifles and a few thousand rounds of ammunition:

https://brushbeater.wordpress.com/the-foundation-squaring-away-communications-basics/ - communications

https://forwardobserver.com/ - intel

https://mountainguerrilla.wordpress.com/professional-reading/ - Selected picks:

SH21-75 The Ranger Handbook. I grew up with the 1992 edition, and still have my old, stained, dog-eared copy that I carried as a Ranger private, through Suck School, and as an NCO. I just don’t know what box it’s packed away in. I currently use a 2006 edition, and while there were some changes, they’re really not that big a deal. I also saw the other day that they have a 2010 edition out.

Any edition should suffice. This is the BIBLE of small-unit tactics. Learn it, know it, live it.


FM 7-8 The Infantry Rifle Platoon and Squad. The non-Ranger Bible of SUT. Get the 1992 edition. The new, differently numbered one from 2003 is ridiculously long and focuses as much on vehicle convoy operations in Strykers as it does on SUT. While it’s certainly useful to have, and know, the 1992 edition, if you don’t have a Ranger Handbook, is more user-friendly and will fit in the cargo pocket of a pair of BDU or ACU trousers.

STP 31-18-SM-TG Soldier’s Manual and Trainer’s Guide, MOS 18, Special Forces Common Tasks; This is the “bible” of individual skills training for all SF soldiers. While not all the skills will apply to the actual guerrilla, developing the useful ones will go a long way towards making you an effective guerrilla/unconventional warfare fighter. I doubt you’ll find a copy, since it’s a restricted document. I happened to keep mine when I ETS’d.

"The Alamo!" on your doorstep will end the same way as the first one.
Originally Posted by rickt300
Do you live in a deep hole?


I live miles down a SGL road. Santa leaves my presents at the store in town.
Originally Posted by rickt300
Any ideas? Upgraded neighborhood watch?



Take a lesson from the VC...3 man cells.Plausible deniability.

Unless the bad guys get their way and the police get defunded...then its no rules, and no one to catch and arrest you.
Organization is a relative term here. The left is entering the reign of terror phase where the Jacobins are eating the Girondins and vice versa. They will come out of it eventually and realize that the greater goal of destroying America takes precedence over their more specific demands just like happened in France in the 1790s. Not sure what the new guillotine will be but I’m sure that racist will replace aristocrat as the rock with which anyone that disagrees with them will be stoned.

As for our side it doesn’t look promising.

Those that own grandpa’s shotgun will turn on us and join the left in a move of pragmatism.

Those that hunt and / or own a handgun, and no “assault weapons,” may stand firm for a while but will most likely cave.

Those of us that truly value the 2A and despise an overgrown and tyrannical government very well may be a tiny minority by then. Reverend Martin Neimoller comes quickly to mind here.

Sorry, I’m usually the optimist.
Originally Posted by rickt300
Any ideas? Upgraded neighborhood watch?


It's hard to imagine that some people are willing to risk so much for ability to read worthless Tweets. Only one candidate gives hope of bringing USA to normalcy.
Originally Posted by Slavek
Originally Posted by rickt300
Any ideas? Upgraded neighborhood watch?


It's hard to imagine that some people are willing to risk loosing everything for ability to read worthless Tweets.


People who cry "I have too much to lose to get involved!" will lose EVERYTHING if they don't get involved. See: Zimbabwe/South Afreaka....

We're in the opening stages of an existential conflict and the commies are choosing the time/place of skirmishes, same tactics that Mao used to defeat the Nationalists.
Trump loosing in November because of fraudulent mail in voting might be the turning point in the US. Trump is the only person that can lead the people to take back the US of A. Trump has the Armed Forces and most of the law enforcement personal on his side. The UN doesn't stand a chance against US with Trump leading the charge. Once the taxpayers money quit flowing to the freeloaders and deadbeats it won't take long to remove the undesirables from the gene pool.
Originally Posted by Slavek
Originally Posted by rickt300
Any ideas? Upgraded neighborhood watch?


It's hard to imagine that some people are willing to risk so much for ability to read worthless Tweets. Only one candidate gives hope of bringing USA to normalcy.


Well phhaggottt if you mean commie control of the country is normalcy you may be spot on!! Put my azz on the line for this country before and DAMNED SURE aint afraid to do it again!!!
Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Originally Posted by MontanaCreekHunter
Originally Posted by rickt300
Any ideas? Upgraded neighborhood watch?



Checkout American Contingency

Done.


Joined as well!
Cops standing by in droves watching cities destroyed, and people living in fear, shows that they side with the PAYCHECK ground.
Originally Posted by TrueGrit
Trump loosing in November because of fraudulent mail in voting might be the turning point in the US. Trump is the only person that can lead the people to take back the US of A. Trump has the Armed Forces and most of the law enforcement personal on his side. The UN doesn't stand a chance against US with Trump leading the charge. Once the taxpayers money quit flowing to the freeloaders and deadbeats it won't take long to remove the undesirables from the gene pool AS LONG AS THE D MAYORS AND GOVERNORS CANT GET LEO TO PROTECT THEM.
FIXT. They make keep going for their paycheck.
Originally Posted by RemModel8
Cops standing by in droves watching cities destroyed, and people living in fear, shows that they side with the PAYCHECK ground.


Thats my concern.
Originally Posted by TrueGrit
Trump loosing in November because of fraudulent mail in voting might be the turning point in the US. Trump is the only person that can lead the people to take back the US of A. Trump has the Armed Forces and most of the law enforcement personal on his side. The UN doesn't stand a chance against US with Trump leading the charge. Once the taxpayers money quit flowing to the freeloaders and deadbeats it won't take long to remove the undesirables from the gene pool.

I view President Trump’s reelection as critical if any hope of the last little bit of “government by the people” (what’s left of it) is to survive.
Trump is the only true pro America president we’ve had since Reagan, and the cancer has spread massively in the last 30 years. We’re at “critical mass” if the ideals and freedoms our nation is founded on can survive.
The bad guys, Deep State, Globalist, New World Order, whatever you call them, know this too. They’ll pull out all the stops to steal the election, and failing that, I expect assassination will be tried.
What comes if that happens, God only knows. Civil war? That doesn’t seem to concern anybody on the left. U.N. Intervention? A leftist dream.
I think that in the last 240 some years, God has blessed America, and has used her to make the world a better place for his people to live. I pray that our usefulness to Him and His Will has not ended.
My life doesn’t concern me much. I know where I’m headed after this stage is over. I’m already bought and payed for, so I won’t sell out my soul or my grandchildren’s future.
What others decide is on them, but I’ll fight if I need to. I’m afraid it may be necessary.
7mm
If you don't know you've already been cut out of the loop.
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by RemModel8
Cops standing by in droves watching cities destroyed, and people living in fear, shows that they side with the PAYCHECK ground.


Thats my concern.



You old ladies are a fearful bunch. What happened to "out of my cold dead hands" ? It has been traded for old, furiously typing fingers.grin Whatever you decide make sure to display it on the internet.


mike r
Originally Posted by gonehuntin
Originally Posted by rickt300
Any ideas? Upgraded neighborhood watch?



Friends and neighbors you know and trust. Also, 'folders of accountability' for everybody within 5 miles who you know are the enemy. As well as local politicians who have shown their asses to the world, because they will be chosen to lead a "Vichy-styled" government when the SHTF.

And, it's more than just having a few rifles and a few thousand rounds of ammunition:

https://brushbeater.wordpress.com/the-foundation-squaring-away-communications-basics/ - communications

https://forwardobserver.com/ - intel

https://mountainguerrilla.wordpress.com/professional-reading/ - Selected picks:

SH21-75 The Ranger Handbook. I grew up with the 1992 edition, and still have my old, stained, dog-eared copy that I carried as a Ranger private, through Suck School, and as an NCO. I just don’t know what box it’s packed away in. I currently use a 2006 edition, and while there were some changes, they’re really not that big a deal. I also saw the other day that they have a 2010 edition out.

Any edition should suffice. This is the BIBLE of small-unit tactics. Learn it, know it, live it.


FM 7-8 The Infantry Rifle Platoon and Squad. The non-Ranger Bible of SUT. Get the 1992 edition. The new, differently numbered one from 2003 is ridiculously long and focuses as much on vehicle convoy operations in Strykers as it does on SUT. While it’s certainly useful to have, and know, the 1992 edition, if you don’t have a Ranger Handbook, is more user-friendly and will fit in the cargo pocket of a pair of BDU or ACU trousers.

STP 31-18-SM-TG Soldier’s Manual and Trainer’s Guide, MOS 18, Special Forces Common Tasks; This is the “bible” of individual skills training for all SF soldiers. While not all the skills will apply to the actual guerrilla, developing the useful ones will go a long way towards making you an effective guerrilla/unconventional warfare fighter. I doubt you’ll find a copy, since it’s a restricted document. I happened to keep mine when I ETS’d.

"The Alamo!" on your doorstep will end the same way as the first one.
found it on amazon, but 1-2 months delivery.
Originally Posted by RemModel8
Cops standing by in droves watching cities destroyed, and people living in fear, shows that they side with the PAYCHECK ground.

Twice, I have walked away from decent jobs with no other prospect for employment. I’m sure a person trained in law enforcement has better prospects for a new job than a guy with military service and a high school diploma. Self respect is worth more than a paycheck to me.
These guys may soon have to decide if that paycheck and pension is worth their soul, and wether they work for the people who pay their paycheck as opposed to the people who sign them.
7mm
The other side is definitely all organized!!!

Don’t you know that somewhere there is a list of all kinda stuff that’s going to happen between now and Election Day to keep djt busy trying to put out the fires.
Neither the tech companies nor the government will tolerate regular americans organizing in their own defense. If done on the net, expect to swiftly be quashed by the tech overlords and JBTs or infiltrated.

For examples see Rise Above Movement and several of the other groups who have been destroyed.

Older methods will have to be revived as well as front organizations. Face to face, small-scale,local, etc. at first.
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What happened to "out of my cold dead hands" ?



Haven't you heard; Wayne LaPierre bought new socks. grin
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Originally Posted by 10gaugemag
Originally Posted by MontanaCreekHunter
Originally Posted by rickt300
Any ideas? Upgraded neighborhood watch?



Checkout American Contingency

Done.


Joined as well!

just tried to join and i'm already a member, don't remember when i signed up.
Friends, family, neighbors.
Originally Posted by ingwe


Take a lesson from the VC...3 man cells.Plausible deniability.

Unless the bad guys get their way and the police get defunded...then its no rules, and no one to catch and arrest you.


The BLM and ANTIFA are funded and somewhat organized. They seem to have a few calling the shots. What they don't expect is hit and run gorilla tactics. They expect most to hunker down and hide. There's enough LEOs, and vets here that can come up with quick plans as things happen.
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They expect most to hunker down and hide.


You are correct. They may not understand there is a difference between hiding and stalking. Might be time they learned.

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Originally Posted by rickt300
Any ideas? Upgraded neighborhood watch?


Organize to what? Talk? Ahh, we're good right here... They've got us nailed, we are too damn comfortable, have too much to lose, etc... to fight back. Why, the COPS might get us, or we'd be doxed and then never get another nights sleep. Our bosses might find out and fire us. They'd red flag us, take our guns away, all kinda horrible stuff, too much to be worth fighting back.

B'cept when they get to MY block, okay? When they're coming down MY block I'll fight. Yeah. Or actually, maybe not my BLOCK, how about my driveway? Yeah. THAT'S it, I'll fight when they come up my driveway! ...Well, wait. I might get in some trouble for fighting there, maybe through the front door? Actually, I think... don't I have a moral duty to retreat? So, here it is, nothing of worldly possessions is ever worth fighting over, certainly not KILLING ANOTHER HUMAN BEING, am I right? So there you go, if they are fixing to hurt no, kill one of my family, THEN I'll fight, yeah, that's it, and let me tell you, I'm ready!
Originally Posted by Dave_in_WV
Originally Posted by ingwe


Take a lesson from the VC...3 man cells.Plausible deniability.

Unless the bad guys get their way and the police get defunded...then its no rules, and no one to catch and arrest you.


The BLM and ANTIFA are funded and somewhat organized. They seem to have a few calling the shots. What they don't expect is hit and run gorilla tactics. They expect most to hunker down and hide. There's enough LEOs, and vets here that can come up with quick plans as things happen.


Like Mike Tyson said, "Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth".

I suspect that a couple of pissed off farm boys with ARs would cause the whole assembly to stampede.
Originally Posted by TownDrunk
Originally Posted by rickt300
Do you live in a deep hole?


I live miles down a SGL road. Santa leaves my presents at the store in town.


This your alter ego Theo?
Originally Posted by deflave
If you don't know you've already been cut out of the loop.


Seems the loop is smaller but more important than the internet which has already become almost worthless.
majority of my neighbors are in their 70-80s
Originally Posted by OMCHamlin
Originally Posted by rickt300
Any ideas? Upgraded neighborhood watch?


Organize to what? Talk? Ahh, we're good right here... They've got us nailed, we are too damn comfortable, have too much to lose, etc... to fight back. Why, the COPS might get us, or we'd be doxed and then never get another nights sleep. Our bosses might find out and fire us. They'd red flag us, take our guns away, all kinda horrible stuff, too much to be worth fighting back.

B'cept when they get to MY block, okay? When they're coming down MY block I'll fight. Yeah. Or actually, maybe not my BLOCK, how about my driveway? Yeah. THAT'S it, I'll fight when they come up my driveway! ...Well, wait. I might get in some trouble for fighting there, maybe through the front door? Actually, I think... don't I have a moral duty to retreat? So, here it is, nothing of worldly possessions is ever worth fighting over, certainly not KILLING ANOTHER HUMAN BEING, am I right? So there you go, if they are fixing to hurt no, kill one of my family, THEN I'll fight, yeah, that's it, and let me tell you, I'm ready!


Well we can each fight our own battle but we are much more effective if we are able to run security, patrols, block important roads and communicate say inside a 20 mile area. I mean waiting for someone to sneak up and set your house on fire is not really a plan.
Originally Posted by rickt300
Originally Posted by OMCHamlin
Originally Posted by rickt300
Any ideas? Upgraded neighborhood watch?


Organize to what? Talk? Ahh, we're good right here... They've got us nailed, we are too damn comfortable, have too much to lose, etc... to fight back. Why, the COPS might get us, or we'd be doxed and then never get another nights sleep. Our bosses might find out and fire us. They'd red flag us, take our guns away, all kinda horrible stuff, too much to be worth fighting back.

B'cept when they get to MY block, okay? When they're coming down MY block I'll fight. Yeah. Or actually, maybe not my BLOCK, how about my driveway? Yeah. THAT'S it, I'll fight when they come up my driveway! ...Well, wait. I might get in some trouble for fighting there, maybe through the front door? Actually, I think... don't I have a moral duty to retreat? So, here it is, nothing of worldly possessions is ever worth fighting over, certainly not KILLING ANOTHER HUMAN BEING, am I right? So there you go, if they are fixing to hurt no, kill one of my family, THEN I'll fight, yeah, that's it, and let me tell you, I'm ready!


Well we can each fight our own battle but we are much more effective if we are able to run security, patrols, block important roads and communicate say inside a 20 mile area. I mean waiting for someone to sneak up and set your house on fire is not really a plan.


Thank you for clearing that up for me. Say, by chance did you catch the sarcasm in this post at least?


In a really SERIOUS breakdown the only things you'll be "organizing" is how to temporarily feed or escape from the clamoring unarmed populace or marauders that will kill you for anything you have got.
Originally Posted by SheriffJoe


In a really SERIOUS breakdown the only things you'll be "organizing" is how to temporarily feed or escape from the clamoring unarmed populace or marauders that will kill you for anything you have got.

You can't fix stupid, if your not prepared to defend your property after Obama your a dumb sob. If your not with US your against US, a lot of good people are going to be victims and left behind to fend for themselves with nothing.
I could be completely off base but when the socialist scum learn the lessons the Germans did at Belleau Wood regarding the .30/06 it'll settle down.
Originally Posted by lvmiker
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by RemModel8
Cops standing by in droves watching cities destroyed, and people living in fear, shows that they side with the PAYCHECK ground.


Thats my concern.



You old ladies are a fearful bunch. What happened to "out of my cold dead hands" ? It has been traded for old, furiously typing fingers.grin Whatever you decide make sure to display it on the internet.


mike r



Maybe you can go back to work and come get mine.
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by gonehuntin
Originally Posted by rickt300
Any ideas? Upgraded neighborhood watch?



Friends and neighbors you know and trust. Also, 'folders of accountability' for everybody within 5 miles who you know are the enemy. As well as local politicians who have shown their asses to the world, because they will be chosen to lead a "Vichy-styled" government when the SHTF.

And, it's more than just having a few rifles and a few thousand rounds of ammunition:

https://brushbeater.wordpress.com/the-foundation-squaring-away-communications-basics/ - communications

https://forwardobserver.com/ - intel

https://mountainguerrilla.wordpress.com/professional-reading/ - Selected picks:

SH21-75 The Ranger Handbook. I grew up with the 1992 edition, and still have my old, stained, dog-eared copy that I carried as a Ranger private, through Suck School, and as an NCO. I just don’t know what box it’s packed away in. I currently use a 2006 edition, and while there were some changes, they’re really not that big a deal. I also saw the other day that they have a 2010 edition out.

Any edition should suffice. This is the BIBLE of small-unit tactics. Learn it, know it, live it.


FM 7-8 The Infantry Rifle Platoon and Squad. The non-Ranger Bible of SUT. Get the 1992 edition. The new, differently numbered one from 2003 is ridiculously long and focuses as much on vehicle convoy operations in Strykers as it does on SUT. While it’s certainly useful to have, and know, the 1992 edition, if you don’t have a Ranger Handbook, is more user-friendly and will fit in the cargo pocket of a pair of BDU or ACU trousers.

STP 31-18-SM-TG Soldier’s Manual and Trainer’s Guide, MOS 18, Special Forces Common Tasks; This is the “bible” of individual skills training for all SF soldiers. While not all the skills will apply to the actual guerrilla, developing the useful ones will go a long way towards making you an effective guerrilla/unconventional warfare fighter. I doubt you’ll find a copy, since it’s a restricted document. I happened to keep mine when I ETS’d.

"The Alamo!" on your doorstep will end the same way as the first one.
found it on amazon, but 1-2 months delivery.


Order whatever you can find. I've got the 1992 edition of the Ranger Handbook - it's GOLD. Every hunter should read it, front to back. Rogers' Rangers rules are the first thing printed up front and the rules still apply today:

I. All Rangers are to be subject to the rules and articles of war; to appear at roll- call every evening, on their own parade, equipped, each with a Firelock, sixty rounds of powder and ball, and a hatchet, at which time an officer from each company is to inspect the same, to see they are in order, so as to be ready on any emergency to march at a minute's warning; and before they are dismissed, the necessary guards are to be draughted, and scouts for the next day appointed.

II. Whenever you are ordered out to the enemies forts or frontiers for discoveries, if your number be small, march in a single file, keeping at such a distance from each other as to prevent one shot from killing two men, sending one man, or more, forward, and the like on each side, at the distance of twenty yards from the main body, if the ground you march over will admit of it, to give the signal to the officer of the approach of an enemy, and of their number, &c.

III. If you march over marshes or soft ground, change your position, and march abreast of each other to prevent the enemy from tracking you (as they would do if you marched in a single file) till you get over such ground, and then resume your former order, and march till it is quite dark before you encamp, which do, if possible, on a piece of ground which that may afford your centries the advantage of seeing or hearing the enemy some considerable distance, keeping one half of your whole party awake alternately through the night.

IV. Some time before you come to the place you would reconnoitre, make a stand, and send one or two men in whom you can confide, to look out the best ground for making your observations.

V. If you have the good fortune to take any prisoners, keep them separate, till they are examined, and in your return take a different route from that in which you went out, that you may the better discover any party in your rear, and have an opportunity, if their strength be superior to yours, to alter your course, or disperse, as circumstances may require.

VI. If you march in a large body of three or four hundred, with a design to attack the enemy, divide your party into three columns, each headed by a proper officer, and let those columns march in single files, the columns to the right and left keeping at twenty yards distance or more from that of the center, if the ground will admit, and let proper guards be kept in the front and rear, and suitable flanking parties at a due distance as before directed, with orders to halt on all eminences, to take a view of the surrounding ground, to prevent your being ambuscaded, and to notify the approach or retreat of the enemy, that proper dispositions may be made for attacking, defending, &c. And if the enemy approach in your front on level ground, form a front of your three columns or main body with the advanced guard, keeping out your flanking parties, as if you were marching under the command of trusty officers, to prevent the enemy from pressing hard on either of your wings, or surrounding you, which is the usual method of the savages, if their number will admit of it, and be careful likewise to support and strengthen your rear-guard.

VII. If you are obliged to receive the enemy's fire, fall, or squat down, till it is over; then rise and discharge at them. If their main body is equal to yours, extend yourselves occasionally; but if superior, be careful to support and strengthen your flanking parties, to make them equal to theirs, that if possible you may repulse them to their main body, in which case push upon them with the greatest resolution with equal force in each flank and in the center, observing to keep at a due distance from each other, and advance from tree to tree, with one half of the party before the other ten or twelve yards. If the enemy push upon you, let your front fire and fall down, and then let your rear advance thro' them and do the like, by which time those who before were in front will be ready to discharge again, and repeat the same alternately, as occasion shall require; by this means you will keep up such a constant fire, that the enemy will not be able easily to break your order, or gain your ground.

VIII. If you oblige the enemy to retreat, be careful, in your pursuit of them, to keep out your flanking parties, and prevent them from gaining eminences, or rising grounds, in which case they would perhaps be able to rally and repulse you in their turn.

IX. If you are obliged to retreat, let the front of your whole party fire and fall back, till the rear hath done the same, making for the best ground you can; by this means you will oblige the enemy to pursue you, if they do it at all, in the face of a constant fire.

X. If the enemy is so superior that you are in danger of being surrounded by them, let the whole body disperse, and every one take a different road to the place of rendezvous appointed for that evening, which must every morning be altered and fixed for the evening ensuing, in order to bring the whole party, or as many of them as possible, together, after any separation that may happen in the day; but if you should happen to be actually surrounded, form yourselves into a square, or if in the woods, a circle is best, and, if possible, make a stand till the darkness of the night favours your escape.

XI. If your rear is attacked, the main body and flankers must face about to the right or left, as occasion shall require, and form themselves to oppose the enemy, as before directed; and the same method must be observed, if attacked in either of your flanks, by which means you will always make a rear of one of your flank-guards.

XII. If you determine to rally after a retreat, in order to make a fresh stand against the enemy, by all means endeavour to do it on the most rising ground you come at, which will give you greatly the advantage in point of situation, and enable you to repulse superior numbers.

XIII. In general, when pushed upon by the enemy, reserve your fire till they approach very near, which will then put them into the greatest surprize and consternation, and give you an opportunity of rushing upon them with your hatchets and cutlasses to the better advantage.

XIV. When you encamp at night, fix your centries in such a manner as not to be relieved from the main body till morning, profound secrecy and silence being often of the last importance in these cases. Each centry therefore should consist of six men, two of whom must be constantly alert, and when relieved by their fellows, it should be done without noise; and in case those on duty see or hear any thing, which alarms them, they are not to speak, but one of them is silently to retreat, and acquaint the commanding officer thereof, that proper dispositions may be made; and all occasional centries should be fixed in like manner.

XV. At the first dawn of day, awake your whole detachment; that being the time when the savages the savages chuse to fall upon their enemies, you should by all means be in readiness to receive them.

XVI. If the enemy should be discovered by your detachments in the morning, and their numbers are superior to yours, and a victory doubtful, you should not attack them till the evening, as then they will not know your numbers, and if you are repulsed, your retreat will be favoured by the darkness of the night.

XVII. Before you leave your encampment, send out small parties to scout round it, to see if there be any appearance or track of an enemy that might have been near you during the night.

XVIII. When you stop for refreshment, chuse some spring or rivulet if you can, and dispose your party so as not to be surprised, posting proper guards and centries at a due distance, and let a small party waylay the path you came in, lest the enemy should be pursuing.

XIX. If, in your return, you have to cross rivers, avoid the usual fords as much as possible, lest the enemy should have discovered, and be there expecting you.

XX. If you have to pass by lakes, keep at some distance from the edge of the water, lest, in case of an ambuscade or an attack from the enemy, when in that situation, your retreat should be cut off.

XXI. If the enemy pursue your rear, take a circle till you come to your own tracks, and there form an ambush to receive them, and give them the first fire.

XXII. When you return from a scout, and come near our forts, avoid the usual roads, and avenues thereto, lest the enemy should have headed you, and lay in ambush to receive you, when almost exhausted with fatigues.

XXIII. When you pursue any party that has been near our forts or encampments, follow not directly in their tracks, lest they should be discovered by their rear guards, who, at such a time, would be most alert; but endeavour, by a different route, to head and meet them in some narrow pass, or lay in ambush to receive them when and where they least expect it.

XXIV. If you are to embark in canoes, battoes, or otherwise, by water, chuse the evening for the time of your embarkation, as you will then have the whole night before you, to pass undiscovered by any parties of the enemy, on hills, or other places, which command a prospect of the lake or river you are upon.

XXV. In padling or rowing, give orders that the boat or canoe next the sternmost, wait for her, and the third for the second, and the fourth for the third, and so on, to prevent separation, and that you may be ready to assist each other on any emergency.

XXVI. Appoint one man in each boat to look out for fires, on the adjacent shores, from the numbers and size of which you may form some judgment of the number that kindled them, and whether you are able to attack them or not.

XXVII. If you find the enemy encamped near the banks of a river or lake, which you imagine they will attempt to cross for their security upon being attacked, leave a detachment of your party on the opposite shore to receive them, while, with the remainder, you surprize them, having them between you and the lake or river.

XXVIII. If you cannot satisfy yourself as to the enemy's number and strength, from their fire, &c. conceal your boats at some distance, and ascertain their number by a reconnoitering party, when they embark, or march, in the morning, marking the course they steer, &c. when you may pursue, ambush, and attack them, or let them pass, as prudence shall direct you. In general, however, that you may not be discovered by the enemy upon the lakes and rivers at a great distance, it is safest to lay by, with your boats and party concealed all day, without noise or shew; and to pursue your intended route by night; and whether you go by land or water, give out parole and countersigns, in order to know one another in the dark, and likewise appoint a station every man to repair to, in case of any accident that may separate you."
Originally Posted by wabigoon
[Linked Image from cdn.britannica.com]


Cousin of mine wrote that. I know he was a cousin because my grandmother was heavy into genealogy. We are certainly related, because his luck was similar to mine. He hit a bad run of it when he went to France...

Probably where I get the troublemaking rebel part of my personality.😁

Local tyrants are easy to find. They usually live somewhere nearby. Know who and where the enemy is in your backyard.




Originally Posted by Slavek
Originally Posted by rickt300
Any ideas? Upgraded neighborhood watch?


It's hard to imagine that some people are willing to risk so much for ability to read worthless Tweets. Only one candidate gives hope of bringing USA to normalcy.



Gibberish Joe can't even bring hope for himself.
Originally Posted by RemModel8
Originally Posted by lvmiker
...


Maybe you can go back to work and come get mine.


Mikers spent best part of his life serving Gov. one
way or another, incentive being a safe paycheck.

Leopards don't change their spots.

Being old and on the scrapheap he would take
just about any offer if the Gov was looking to
fill numbers... Someone who posts their CV on
the CF puts a flashing sign above their head in
bold letters saying.. 'down out and desperate'..😂


I've said this before: be very careful about what you say or write online.

Lists are undoubtedly being compiled. You do not want to be on one. I give you, as an example my own family-- two members to be exact. One is my grandfather; the other is his older brother, Reinhart. Reinhart's big goal in life was to run a typing school. My grandfather was good at construction. They did not want to make trouble. They were not political. They were good Lutherans.

My great uncle knew Adolf Hitler after WW1-- just knew him socially from the beer hall. In those days Adolf was making the rounds as a paid informant of the Bavarian police. He used to get himself invited to sit at your table and then collect on who said what. That was how he made the connections that he ended up leveraging later on. Hitler was brought as a guest to a stammtisch of which my uncle was a member. My uncle thought he was a cretin and told him so. He ended up on a list. The net of all this was my uncle had to go hide with relatives in the Black Forest and my grandfather had to uproot his family and come to The States.

Here? Both the Bund and the FBI compiled files on every German. Information on our family was sent back to Germany. We know this because my grandfather was given the hard sell when he went back to Marburg in 1938 to see his ailing father. He brought the family along to visit. Reports of his success in building apartments in Cincinnati had gotten back; the Nazi's pressed him to build housing for the Wehrmacht. Our family barely made it back to the States.

Back home, there was still more trouble. There were interrogations, there were people the family knew being thrown into the camps. Dad had a cousin that ended up working for the FBI and then transferred to Army G2, the OSS, and later the CIA. In WWII my uncles had informants reporting on them even though they were proud Americans served in the PTO. That was 80 years ago. The machinery for acquiring and organizing this kind of information has only gotten better. What used to be done by hand with typewriters is now all electronic.

Think about China and its capabilities to data-mine. Think about all the shills and sock puppets and trolls acting as agent provocateurs here on the 'Campfire. There are probably FBI, NSA, and other federal government assets listening in as well. They know what you are writing; they can match it to what you write and do elsewhere. You probably have been vetted and ranked for your inclinations and abilities. If you try to form a group of like-minded individuals, they'll know.

Think of Reinhart. He talks to some loon at a beer hall and he tells the goofball, flat out, he's nuts. The loon then goes back and reports on him. A short while later, Reinhart is hiding from the Brown Shirts in some forgotten corner of the Black Forest. Here on the 'Campfire, that same loon doesn't even have to file a report. It's right out there in the public record and accessible by anyone, anywhere. All the troll needs to do is trip a guy's trigger and he spills everything. Now some guy named RickT300 gets on and asks what you're going to do when the STFU. I'm not trying to throw shade on the OP. However, how much do you know about him? It doesn't make any difference, because unlike the old days, this isn't about opening your mouth after a few beers in the local bar. It isn't about the quiet guy at the end of the bar that may be taking notes. The whole thing is far more sinister.

One other piece of advice: When a troll trips your trigger, don't sound off. Cut him off. Go silent. Let the stupid anti-Trump posts roll off the page in an hour with 0 responses.

Originally Posted by shaman


Think about all the shills and sock puppets and trolls acting as agent provocateurs here on the 'Campfire. There are probably FBI, NSA, and other federal government assets listening in as well. They know what you are writing; they can match it to what you write and do elsewhere. You probably have been vetted and ranked for your inclinations and abilities. If you try to form a group of like-minded individuals, they'll know.




This election you have a chance to make sure things get back to normal so that you can have: peace, prosperity, unity,........Please make the right decision.

Originally Posted by shaman
I've said this before: be very careful about what you say or write online.

Lists are undoubtedly being compiled. You do not want to be on one. I give you, as an example my own family-- two members to be exact. One is my grandfather; the other is his older brother, Reinhart. Reinhart's big goal in life was to run a typing school. My grandfather was good at construction. They did not want to make trouble. They were not political. They were good Lutherans.

My great uncle knew Adolf Hitler after WW1-- just knew him socially from the beer hall. In those days Adolf was making the rounds as a paid informant of the Bavarian police. He used to get himself invited to sit at your table and then collect on who said what. That was how he made the connections that he ended up leveraging later on. Hitler was brought as a guest to a stammtisch of which my uncle was a member. My uncle thought he was a cretin and told him so. He ended up on a list. The net of all this was my uncle had to go hide with relatives in the Black Forest and my grandfather had to uproot his family and come to The States.

Here? Both the Bund and the FBI compiled files on every German. Information on our family was sent back to Germany. We know this because my grandfather was given the hard sell when he went back to Marburg in 1938 to see his ailing father. He brought the family along to visit. Reports of his success in building apartments in Cincinnati had gotten back; the Nazi's pressed him to build housing for the Wehrmacht. Our family barely made it back to the States.

Back home, there was still more trouble. There were interrogations, there were people the family knew being thrown into the camps. Dad had a cousin that ended up working for the FBI and then transferred to Army G2, the OSS, and later the CIA. In WWII my uncles had informants reporting on them even though they were proud Americans served in the PTO. That was 80 years ago. The machinery for acquiring and organizing this kind of information has only gotten better. What used to be done by hand with typewriters is now all electronic.

Think about China and its capabilities to data-mine. Think about all the shills and sock puppets and trolls acting as agent provocateurs here on the 'Campfire. There are probably FBI, NSA, and other federal government assets listening in as well. They know what you are writing; they can match it to what you write and do elsewhere. You probably have been vetted and ranked for your inclinations and abilities. If you try to form a group of like-minded individuals, they'll know.

Think of Reinhart. He talks to some loon at a beer hall and he tells the goofball, flat out, he's nuts. The loon then goes back and reports on him. A short while later, Reinhart is hiding from the Brown Shirts in some forgotten corner of the Black Forest. Here on the 'Campfire, that same loon doesn't even have to file a report. It's right out there in the public record and accessible by anyone, anywhere. All the troll needs to do is trip a guy's trigger and he spills everything. Now some guy named RickT300 gets on and asks what you're going to do when the STFU. I'm not trying to throw shade on the OP. However, how much do you know about him? It doesn't make any difference, because unlike the old days, this isn't about opening your mouth after a few beers in the local bar. It isn't about the quiet guy at the end of the bar that may be taking notes. The whole thing is far more sinister.

One other piece of advice: When a troll trips your trigger, don't sound off. Cut him off. Go silent. Let the stupid anti-Trump posts roll off the page in an hour with 0 responses.

You had a relative in the CIA, and we're supposed to "listen" to you?
I disagree Shaman. What we are posting isn't Anti-American, Reveloutionary, Racist or treasonous. That's exactly what the left is doing now.
Our attitude and possibly our actions are exactly as intended by the founders. If you can openly call for the dissolution of the United States as a Democratic Republic, openly fight for a socialist and communist Govt in this country, openly call for the deaths of whites and other specific races, openly call for the deaths of LEO's etc... Then silence isn't what's needed. We need to be real clear and open about what were willing to do to defend ourselves, our families, our country and our way of life. They can put me in any list they want. Fugg these [bleep].
Originally Posted by jackmountain
I disagree Shaman. What we are posting isn't Anti-American, Reveloutionary, Racist or treasonous. That's exactly what the left is doing now.
Our attitude and possibly our actions are exactly as intended by the founders. If you can openly call for the dissolution of the United States as a Democratic Republic, openly fight for a socialist and communist Govt in this country, openly call for the deaths of whites and other specific races, openly call for the deaths of LEO's etc... Then silence isn't what's needed. We need to be real clear and open about what were willing to do to defend ourselves, our families, our country and our way of life. They can put me in any list they want. Fugg these [bleep].


Unfortunately the environment has become very toxic and is full of false information. Please make sure you make your decisions on actual facts and truthful reporting.
Actual facts and truthful reporting like a candidate for president of the United States who damn near won his primary running as a socialist? Senators calling for everything from Socialism and communism to Shari's law?
State and local leaders allowing radical leftists to attack police departments, burn and loot businesses and openly attack anyone they choose? Statues, memorials and history in general tore down, becoming oulawed and banned?

I think the truth is punching you in the face.
Surely Custer would have preferred a few loud-mouthed injuns.....

Originally Posted by jackmountain
I disagree Shaman. What we are posting isn't Anti-American, Reveloutionary, Racist or treasonous. That's exactly what the left is doing now.
Our attitude and possibly our actions are exactly as intended by the founders. If you can openly call for the dissolution of the United States as a Democratic Republic, openly fight for a socialist and communist Govt in this country, openly call for the deaths of whites and other specific races, openly call for the deaths of LEO's etc... Then silence isn't what's needed. We need to be real clear and open about what were willing to do to defend ourselves, our families, our country and our way of life. They can put me in any list they want. Fugg these [bleep].
Originally Posted by jackmountain
I disagree Shaman. What we are posting isn't Anti-American, Reveloutionary, Racist or treasonous. That's exactly what the left is doing now.
Our attitude and possibly our actions are exactly as intended by the founders. If you can openly call for the dissolution of the United States as a Democratic Republic, openly fight for a socialist and communist Govt in this country, openly call for the deaths of whites and other specific races, openly call for the deaths of LEO's etc... Then silence isn't what's needed. We need to be real clear and open about what were willing to do to defend ourselves, our families, our country and our way of life. They can put me in any list they want. Fugg these [bleep].




I'm not saying that it is. Remember that BOTH sides are looking at our online presence.

Also remember that when the SHTF, being a patriot may become less and less tolerated.

Our blessed Republic was formed at a time when you could go to a tavern and sit in the back and plot the overthrow of a government, and you could pull it off without the Loyalists hearing you. Here? The whole world is listening.


To quote an old proverb, "The mosquito that buzzes the loudest gets swatted first." I'm not saying don't speak your mind. What I'm saying is don't make yourself a target.

Just as a for instance: My little weblog, Genesis 9:2-4 Ministries, used to have a majority of its Internet traffic coming from China and The Russian Federation. I now block all traffic from everywhere except USA, GB, AUS, CAN, and very few others. Few people outside the USA have any interest in deer and turkey hunting in Kentucky. What the Chinese were doing with my articles are anyone's guess.

Chinese collect all the data, massage and manipulate it and then send it to their minions here in the States for further action.






Originally Posted by MIKEWERNER
Surely Custer would have preferred a few loud-mouthed injuns.....



Actually Custer was kind of stupid about that sort of thing. He had advance intel that there were large numbers of hostiles in the area of Little Big Horn and chose to disregard it.

The interesting one is Sherman. He was put in charge of the military district of Memphis early in the war. He went about gathering intel on the local secesh, who were loudly proclaiming themselves and had them rounded up and their property confiscated. Local sympathizers quickly figured out that STFU was a much better course of action. The rent of secesh landlords that was owed by renters was still collected by the military district, but then it was confiscated and turned over to the Union coffers.
Let me give you another example:

Nowadays there is seemingly little being done regarding the kind of idle banter of folks wanting to off Trump. Looks may or may not be deceiving. That whole 86-45 T-shirt thing may be being treated as noise, but then again. . .

I remember a story from my father. This was about 1962-63. Some doofus mouthed off about killing the president in one of the local neighborhood bars. My dad heard it. Several other people did. Somebody took it seriously enough that they called the FBI, and the next thing anyone knew, Mister Doofus got a visit. That was nearly 60 years ago. Of course the president was Kennedy, and the doofus was mouthing off less than a year before Dallas.

Now? Let's say someone goes nuclear on here about socialist corkscrewers or whatever. Does the FBI care? No. But maybe a name and address get sent to the local ANTIFA cell or BLM organizers. Maybe you don't ever know why bad stuff starts happening to you-- random, seemingly unconnected stuff. That certainly happened with my grandfather and his family after they started standing up to the local Bund.

Mind you, I'm not saying stay quiet and take it. I'm just saying be damn careful about how you go organizing, and how you telegraph what you're doing online.
Some good points and some not so good. Point is we are talking about it. Its in the air. Get prepared and be ready.
Amen, Blueduck, get prepared and be ready. Do whatever you need to do to get there.
I'm looking into this. Started by a former Green Beret who is now doing some of what Green Berets do but on the home front.

https://youtu.be/KLbbyf349Is
Originally Posted by philgood80
Organization is a relative term here. The left is entering the reign of terror phase where the Jacobins are eating the Girondins and vice versa. They will come out of it eventually and realize that the greater goal of destroying America takes precedence over their more specific demands just like happened in France in the 1790s. Not sure what the new guillotine will be but I’m sure that racist will replace aristocrat as the rock with which anyone that disagrees with them will be stoned.

As for our side it doesn’t look promising.

Those that own grandpa’s shotgun will turn on us and join the left in a move of pragmatism.

Those that hunt and / or own a handgun, and no “assault weapons,” may stand firm for a while but will most likely cave.

Those of us that truly value the 2A and despise an overgrown and tyrannical government very well may be a tiny minority by then. Reverend Martin Neimoller comes quickly to mind here.

Sorry, I’m usually the optimist.

^^^^^^^^^^

From the posts that have answered me when I posed these same questions recently,I believe this to be the truth.Lots of talking and thats about it.
Originally Posted by TrueGrit
Originally Posted by SheriffJoe


In a really SERIOUS breakdown the only things you'll be "organizing" is how to temporarily feed or escape from the clamoring unarmed populace or marauders that will kill you for anything you have got.

You can't fix stupid, if your not prepared to defend your property after Obama your a dumb sob. If your not with US your against US, a lot of good people are going to be victims and left behind to fend for themselves with nothing.






Unless you are experienced in "defending" a position (your property) you have no idea IF it is defensible. You can only TRY to defend it. Against a mob...you may take plenty of them out, but eventually, with due respect to your firepower and tactics you think are effective, you'll have to vacate the position or perish.

Good thing, TrueGrit, IF you are in my perimeter, I'll make sure you survive. No charge.
Originally Posted by Starman
Originally Posted by RemModel8
Originally Posted by lvmiker
...


Maybe you can go back to work and come get mine.


Mikers spent best part of his life serving Gov. one
way or another, incentive being a safe paycheck.

Leopards don't change their spots.

Being old and on the scrapheap he would take
just about any offer if the Gov was looking to
fill numbers... Someone who posts their CV on
the CF puts a flashing sign above their head in
bold letters saying.. 'down out and desperate'..😂





Good job starfish, that is a brilliant deflection for your refusal/inability to provide a background that would support your stupid assertions and opinions. Those TS/SCI NDAs you had to sign allow a little slack. Give us just a hint of the depth of your LE or SOF chops...or remain the poser, Rob.

Maybe you and your soulmate stoolsample can hook up and we can all meet at Loretta Lynn's. grin

#posersnevershowup


mike r
Originally Posted by SheriffJoe
Unless you are experienced in "defending" a position (your property) you have no idea IF it is defensible. You can only TRY to defend it. Against a mob...you may take plenty of them out, but eventually, with due respect to your firepower and tactics you think are effective, you'll have to vacate the position or perish.


^^This. Waiting for a Leftist mob to pay a visit is letting them choose the time and place of attack: that rarely works out in your favor. Better to have a plan to get confirmation of a baying mob on the move in your AO and take the fight to them first.
Originally Posted by rickt300
Originally Posted by Theo Gallus
Who is this "we" you talk about, Kemosabi?


We that don't want to lose the country to leftist scum. Do you live in a deep hole?





He IS the deep hole. A-hole, that is.
Originally Posted by lvmiker

... your refusal/inability to provide...



Miker the devoted gov. lackey wants people
to provide for him.

Like I said, Leopards don't change their spots.


Originally Posted by lvmiker

.... remain the poser, Rob.



Hmm.. This wacky 'Rob' thing is new for you
A has-been cop now riding shotgun on the
CF kook train ...enough said.

Everything indicates you were a lousy dimwhit
sheltered gov. workshop cop under the wing of
the mother hen police union.
Now that your special needs are no longer
catered to, you feel out in the cold, fragile
and vulnerable with an ego that dents easily.

There is therapy available for your condition.,
but your silly pride won't allow it, so you suffer
like a fool... Living in the past like you do is not
the cure, it just exacerbates your condition.




Originally Posted by gonehuntin
Originally Posted by SheriffJoe
Unless you are experienced in "defending" a position (your property) you have no idea IF it is defensible. You can only TRY to defend it. Against a mob...you may take plenty of them out, but eventually, with due respect to your firepower and tactics you think are effective, you'll have to vacate the position or perish.


^^This. Waiting for a Leftist mob to pay a visit is letting them choose the time and place of attack: that rarely works out in your favor. Better to have a plan to get confirmation of a baying mob on the move in your AO and take the fight to them first.


I looked at demands of the protesters and organizations they represent. It looks like for most part demands are quite reasonable and can be met indicating the organizers/leaders have backing of domestic entities and few if any foreign ones are involved. If you live out of the way in country or in small towns/cities you have nothing to worry about.
They will not go there because it would be waste of their time and resources to do so.
Should you go there and confront them? No, because if someone fires first shots and civil war starts you loose everything.
Originally Posted by Starman
Originally Posted by lvmiker

... your refusal/inability to provide...



Miker the devoted gov. lackey wants people
to provide for him.

Like I said, Leopards don't change their spots.


Originally Posted by lvmiker

.... remain the poser, Rob.



Hmm.. This wacky 'Rob' thing is new for you
A has-been cop now riding shotgun on the
CF kook train ...enough said.

Everything indicates you were a lousy dimwhit
sheltered gov. workshop cop under the wing of
the mother hen police union.
Now that your special needs are no longer
catered to, you feel out in the cold, fragile
and vulnerable with an ego that dents easily.

There is therapy available for your condition.,
but your silly pride won't allow it, so you suffer
like a fool... Living in the past like you do is not
the cure, it just exacerbates your condition.







You remain a sockpuppet totally lacking credibility. Keep up the good work. It is obvious that you were never an investigator or detective there sherlock.


mike r
I am moving to the mountains if Biden gets elected. They will have an easier time catching Sasquatch.
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