Looking at the Tundra SR5 on Toyota's website.

Several TRD Off-Road (SR5 Grade) packages and a couple of TRD Sport packages.

Nowhere does it explain what the major difference is between the Off-Road and the Sport packages. They both seem to have the same upgraded shocks. Google search doesn't get me anywhere.

Anybody know for sure? When I go to the dealer, I want to already know the answer.

A couple of my friends both leased tundras lately for super low lease payments. No money down and about $250 a month.

They like them but both complain about getting 12 mpg.

Your best place to find an answer is a Toyota forum.

Bb

Call a dealership as Joe Blow before you go.

Like Stadium Toyota in Tampa, FL.

TRD Off Road is above Sport, and one tier down from TRD Pro.

Tundra still is missing a rear locker in any package.

Shocking weak link that should be a discount but then again new trucks are not exactly easy to find.

Good Luck.

I believe the Sport is 2 wheel drive but still has upgraded suspension and rear locker. Off-road is 4 wheel drive at least that’s what I recall from when a buddy bought a Tacoma a few years ago.

The Sport comes with 20” wheels (sucks for off reading) and a few other things

The Off Road comes with 18” wheels, some skid plates, and different shocks

So it’s mostly about the tires - They both come with a front sway bar.

I upgraded by front skid plate to the TRD skid plate, and added the TRD sway bars on the front and back.

The TRD 4x4 sport package has 20” wheels and shocks tuned for comfort riding on the blacktop the TRD Off Road package will have 18” wheels and has shocks tuned for the trails. Definitely get the SR5 upgrade package no matter what model you choose, that will give you the 38 gallon fuel tank. If the truck has bench seating it will have the 26 gallon fuel tank, bucket seats with console in the center will have the 38 gallon tank. If you’re going to change your own oil ask them to remove the factory installed skid plate and install the TRD Pro skid plate with oil canister access door for you, it’s a lot less hassle and time when it comes time to change the filter. When you go to test drive them don’t forget to activate that Tow/Haul button before your done and it feels like an entirely different vehicle, throttle response is the way it should be all the time.

Do you Tundra owners find the mileage to be in the 12 mpg range? That 5.7 is a big engine. I note their web site says 13 to 14 city slightly better on the highway. Most reliable truck out there right now.

My 07 F150 is starting to bite back a little and debating whats next.

Good luck and shoot straight y'all

My ‘14 dash board computer says the average is 14.8 So yeah, the mileage isn’t great, but I really like everything else.

To me it’s more comfortable then the Chevy I had, a lot more powerful, and just better built.

I had a 2008 Double Cab 4x4, 166K trouble free miles, I got 15 MPG, drove mostly highway miles and I drive fast. Traded it in for a leftover 2014 Ford F150 4 door 3.5 EcoBoost, got 15 MPG. Traded that in for a leftover 2018 Ford F-150 4 door 2.7 EcoBoost, I get 18 MPG, I can get 22 MPG if I drive 60 MPH which I never do. Nothing major with the Fords, but little nagging problems, I wanted to buy American. When I'm done with this Ford, I'm going back to the Tundra.

Mine gets about 15.5 overall but that’s mostly highway driving, the gas mileage is definitely not the vehicles best point.

The tundra is due to be redesigned, the current one has been out since 2007 and has only had minor updates since. The new ones should be hitting the dealers in about a year. Rumors are of a big jump in fuel mileage in a complete redesign. My cousin was just shopping for one and there are few on the lot, the dealer told him Toyota has throttled back production getting ready for the new truck. Unless I had to have a new truck right now I’d wait for the new one. I’d never buy the first year model of GM, Ford, or Dodge, but Toyota usually has their stuff together and I wouldn’t be afraid of one from them.

Not a tundra but wife has a 19 Sequoia which is the full size suv with same power train and running gear as the tundra. It avg about 16 mpg but the motor makes a lot at power. Pulling a 5500 pound camper it still avgs 14.9. The power plant has been out for a long time and they have the bugs worked out.

I currently have a 17 TRD Pro that I bought new just over 3 years ago and have 73,000 miles on. I get about 14 mpg average. I drive to work every day and most days hit 90 or above at some point...I have all the driving habits the old ladies shake their fingers at. Mileage sucks but I enjoy life. Prior to this truck I had the previous version, a 13 Rock Warrior. I liked it enough that when it was time to trade I called the dealer I’ve been dealing with since the early 80’s and made a deal over the phone. I have very little patience for things that don’t work right. When I need a new truck it’ll be another Tundra whether they redesign or not.

I almost stopped at the Sequoia because I like a lot of room. Went with the Land Cruiser instead since my last one (still have it) is such a good vehicle. They do like the gas. At 6000lbs. they should. The new one has more bells and whistles than I ever would need, but what the hell. The only option is what kind of floor mats you want. You only live once I hear.

Already have a couple of trucks, but If I was to buy one now, it would be the Tundra for sure.

I had a ‘73 Land Cruiser years ago. There’s a vehicle that’s come a long way from it’s roots.

Yea, they are too fancy now. The older ones have more utility to them.

Loads of info here



https://www.tacomaworld.com/forums/tundras.144/

John burns: I’m looking at trucks too, no past experience, what is a rear locker?

You get that cool hood scoop on the sport package.... that will impress all the teen and preteen boys in the neighborhood....

Totally agree. Bought a 2020 Tundra 4x4 SR5 last spring. Mileage around 14.5 avg. Got 16.5 on a long trip to and from Phoenix last month. Love the 38 gallon tank.

A rear locker “locks” the axle together so the wheels both spin..

I have it on my Tacoma - the Taco 4x4 off road has a “e-locker” (electronic locker) on it so you can push a button and lock them together.
It only works in 4 low, but man it works good.

on the negative side it makes the rear end (Differenctial) weaker, and mine went bad and I had to replace it.
There are also mechanical lockers, and e-lockers...

We have had 3 Tundras, all excellent vehicles. Rock Warrior was an offroad TRD (Toyota Racing Development) option with Bilstein shocks, skid plates and a visual package. SR5 Limited was an option package with leather, bells and whistles and the offroad option. Really nice truck.

The Tundra DOES NOT have a locking differential. It uses traction control to automatically apply brakes to the spinning wheel to force power to the other wheel in a low traction situation. This system will get you stuck and keep you stuck. It does not work. If you get stuck and want to rock forward and back the computer pulls engine speed to idle before allowing the transmission to shift. Stay stuck. True fuel mileage empty is between 12 and 14. Occasionally gets 15, but rarely. The on board mileage computer is 4-5 mpg optimistic.

My wife has a 14 Platinum Tundra we had supercharged. 441 rear wheel horsepower. Will tow a 10,000 trailer with ease. Platinum option is a lot of luxury stuff. Hers has the CrewMax cab with a great rear cabin at the expense of bed length. 5.5 feet vs 6.5 on the double cab version. Single cab gets you 8.1 foot bed.

These are very reliable capable trucks with the best retained value of any of today's trucks.

(This sounds like an ad.)

The TRD Pro also has this feature (chicks dig it or so my wife tells me). That along with the TuRD labeling is pretty awesome. I'm not sure how many components the other two models share, but the suspension of the TRD Pro is pretty great. Mileage has been about the same or slightly better than Fords I have owned.

Gentlemen, thanks for the replies.

Rightly or wrongly, I think the average knowledge level is a little higher here than on the Toyota forums.

Anyway, I know the members here a little better.

No Tundras on the lot in Eureka.

I guess the labeling is the same as a few years ago.
You can get a SR5, and you can also get a SR5 package. So that is confusing.
For me the biggest option is the gas tank. I think you need a SR5 package to get the bigger tank, unless it is a line item add on. Silly.
Generally if you see a bench front seat, then you get the smaller gas tank. Having the shifter on the floor is the SR5 package upgrade.

The odds of getting stuck at the mall and needing a locker are slim to none. In Burns' case, the tanning salon.

The new tundras have advanced traction control so you really don’t need a locker on them.

Google Tundra TRAC

Id wait if you can....


https://www.motortrend.com/news/2022-toyota-tundra-pickup-truck-everything-we-know/

Don't own one, but a couple friends do. Before I stop to fuel up, they're done the same 3 times.

Cattle country here. See them hauling travel trailers etc, but never a stock trailer.

Read this thread this morning, so thought I’d do a trst this afternoon. 2020 Tundra with 19k miles. TSS package tires and rims (appearance package from southeast US distributor), tires are Goodyear Wranglers (they pull left) M+S 275/55/20 “standard load”. Truck is leveled with a soft Tonneau. Load was me and a 7 and 9 year old.

Just did a round trip from Joplin to Springfield, MO. I-44, fairly flat, but some rolling hills there and back. 90 degrees. 87 Octane, think it’s up to 10% ethanol. 138.3 miles total (would have liked to do a full tank, but the rest will he town driving) Likely about 12 miles of driving inside Springfield.

Cruise set at 75 mph. 2 areas of 60mph road construction about a mile each. Filled up at same pump beginning and end. 8.093 gallons.

Calculates to 17.088mpg. Computer said 17.2mpg. To be honest, I’m surprised it did that well. I’d have guessed in the 15s. I bought the truck with 2 miles on it a year ago in August. Checked first few tanks for mileage, just ignored it since then. I have zero complaints with my Tundra.

Thanks for the info cheesy.

Good luck and shoot straight y'all

The color ensemble and wheel package on this one is freaking sublime.

Toyota color schemes are the best.. but damn 14 mpg I can get an F250 or gmc/gmc 2500 get that fuel mileage.

On my 3rd new generation Tundra.

I get 14 to 16 MPG, 50% city, 50% highway, with a heavy foot.

I wouldn't pay thousands extra for a sticker and upgraded shocks and wheels, which are still mediocre stock equipment.

Buy a base model that has the trim, engine, features you want, and drop $3k on suspension, wheels and tires. You'll end up with an even better truck for less or similar cash. And if it bothers you, buy a TRD sticker on e-bay for $10 bucks.

I tow a boat a few times a week and I average 15.7 mpg. Mine is a 2015 with 5.7.

Do you know how I know you have never run in deep snow with a TRAC Tundra?

Throwing the brake at every wheel that is spinning means coming to a stop (stuck) in deep snow and heating the schit out of the rotors/pads.

Lockers are available in Toyos Tacos and in pretty much every domestic truck.

Tundra is long past needing a solid rear locker and a front locker would be icing on the cake.

I almost don't need 4WD with the locker on my F350. It's a gamechanger.

I don’t know how that’s possible, I owned 3 different Tundras and 15.7 was a good day on the highway empty. It would drop to between 8-10 mpg with a 3500 lb boat hooked up. I got 4-5 mpg pulling a 8000 lb boat for 1000 miles from Florida to Texas all highway, doing at or under the speed limit.

I’m not sure. I live at sea level, not sure if that matters. When my fuel gauge reads empty, I usually fit 22 gallons. If I run the whole tank on the freeway with no load, that will get 350-360 miles. If I towed my boat on the freeway for the whole tank, I come in at a few miles on each side of 300 miles on the tank. My boat tows at 3400 lbs or so.

Agree. One of the nicer ones I’ve seen. I’ve been interested in a Tundra lately. I could easily wait 2 years for the new ones to come out.

About the only thing I miss on my Chevy was the auto 4x4 setting.

Interesting article. Sounds like Toyota is going to make the Tundra more like the 150 and 1500.

Is that a good thing, though?

Aren't people going to be screaming that the 2021 model was the last of the 'good' Tundras?

All these truck forums talk about the Tundra is outdated and low tech. That’s the reason I bought it.

Me too. Less to go wrong.

Me Three

I bought one in April, I am getting 14-17 and as good as 19.

Terrible color choice.

😉

Don't you just hate copy cats!

Actually there aren't a lot of colors to choose from.

I do have a couple of options I'm glad the dealer ordered. One is the bed liner, the locking tailgate, the LED bed lights, and the safe in the console, this one has the bucket seat console with the 38 gallon tank. I'm only getting about 14 to high 15s. Suburban like driving condition though. I did fill up and drove over 50 miles but still went through 3 towns and got 15.8 to 16.2.

Burns is right though I would have preferred at least a limited slip to that brake dohickey posi.

I agree they should put an e-locker in the Tundra but you guys do realize you can turn A-TRAC off if you don’t like it, right?

I heard somewhere Toyota is going to go to a 3.5 liter turbo, I really liked my 5.7.