but it says that 81% of teachers support the BLM group.

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/0...-of-teachers-surveyed-support-blm-964228

Defund them and Austin Police

Does this surprise you? Teachers, as a whole, are a pure red commie lot. And Jefferson county, Ky? (Louisville) A dark place. With a population of 771,158.... 611,133 of them are registered to vote..... and 278,472 of them cast votes in the last election for gubernor.... no, no fraud there. Teachers got this dipschit Andy Beshear selected gubernor.

I don’t doubt it.

I don’t, for one second, doubt it! Most have been indoctrinated since grade school to become teachers and continue the communist indoctrination of our children! memtb

Urban teachers for sure. Most west coast teachers for sure. Shows that education doesn't make you smarter or they wouldn't fall for propaganda based on a false narrative. GD

People gravitate towards these careers, teachers, mass media, social work, nurses, because "they want to make a difference".
Strictly an emotion based decision. 80% does not surprise me.
Defense attorneys love have these people in jury pools.

About the same percentage in that group would be Covidians or least towing that line.

They support BLM as long as they see it in the news.

That’ll change when they show up in ‘burbs and start beating the fug out of someone.

Teachers are the ones teaching the children to hate America.

Not a bit surprising; by far, most teachers today are complete liberal tools & idiots, most of which could not do anything more demanding, & teaching today is not the least bit demanding, & there's virtually no accountability.

And they are controlled by the NEA or the state version of the same.

Piss on them all, they've had a huge hand in destroying the country.

MM

Teachers are socialists. Their jobs depend on government-mandated education, on government-enforced tax collection. They are advocates of a massive overarching government bureaucracy because that is how they get their paychecks and their pensions.

Doesn't surprise me for a second. A relative is a teacher. Won't allow her two little boys to have toy guns. Before her husband retired from the FBI, he wasn't allowed to bring his sidearm into the house. And I'd say she's typical.

It would depend where you are. I teach HS in Amarillo and haven't heard a single teacher express anything but contempt and hatred for the BLM crap.

This^^^^^^^^. I live about 30 miles west of Louisville, very different mentality. Jefferson and Fayette county in KY are as liberal as anyplace in the country. The teachers will be paid to stay home, just like they are paid to be off all summer. They are very comfortable with this covid and BLM time we live in now. And yes they did get Andy elected Governor, even though it was his dad that drained their retirement fund. And yes, these are the same people "teaching" our young.

Most Teachers were flaming liberals back in the 70's .

Do they support BLM because of peer pressure or are they activist participating in protest ?

Education major is the new physical education degree. Perhaps the easiest degree now to obtain so the poorest and laziest students choose education majors.

I need to go play with molten lead again. It is so relaxing.

My wife is a retired teacher and she said she doubted that 81% of black teachers support BLM.

You dumb dip chit lol... back in the 70’s huh... lots of old ass teachers where you live huh? Google says your retarded since the “average” age is 42.5...

Lots of liberal 2yr olds in the 70’s?

You act surprised. The fact that Marxist indoctrination in public schrools has infected the younger generation is proof. Just look at what's already happening in our streets.

Whoa there cowboy, you are painting with a very broad brush when you throw nurses into the generalization. My daughter-in-law had me help out at a couple "nurse picnic/barbecues". By and large my experience talking and mostly listening, these gals (and guys) are about as firmly grounded in reality as any group of people you can name. When the wine and beer flow, and the truth is spoken, they are pretty close the 'fire people.

It’s the teachers union.

Would you translate that to colonial English?

This is a Biblical perspective in a nutshell.
Hear me out if you are a Christian.
If you aren't, then I don't expect you to agree.

"Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.". Proverb 22:6
We should ALL ask ourselves, who is responsible for training up our children in the way they should go?
Here's a brief example that represents the past generation of nearly 50 years of too many families who chose the cultural norm over God's commands. America should not expect His blessings when He is rejected and replaced with an idol.

Unfaithful marriages...

Unfaithful parenting...

Parents turn children over to the state run skuul system.

Children conform to the image of their state rather than their Creator Jesus Christ.

Repeat.....
This may be an oversimplification, but you get the idea.

The forefathers of the modern educational system were reprobates that hated God before they left the surface of this planet for a permanent vacation in a VERY WARM climate. Not only schools, but many churches have followed suit in these philosophies.
If you doubt it, How many pastors and denominations are preaching the small amount of truth found in this post?

"As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving. Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ."
Colossians 2:6-8

From the beginning of the state run educational system, it was set up according to the Prussian model for the purpose of loyalty and obedience to the Godless state. Most of what is taught in socialist studies, biology, etc., to the children is against God's revealed truth. The subjects are taught mostly by strangers who care less about your values than strangers on a forum. The children's peers become their friends, who influence them along with media, and pop culture.

The parents have chosen the state as their king, and their god when Jesus Christ the Almighty King was our God.

Parents must turn to Jesus for salvation.
Then the dads should lead their own families, not giving an inch to the devil.

Add social work major to that too.


They have their own math and chemistry course.

Had a bud pursuing being an educator. I was in Gen Chem, he was in some jive called ‘Applied chemistry”. They made a clay volcano and mixed up vinegar and baking soda for semester project.

For a trig class, if they were brave, they got 6 credits for it, majors outside of those got 3 creds.

foucking joke

All teachers are bad, as are all cops, the military will come and take your guns away to serve "their masters"

Dumphukitude is best voiced in generalities, it is easier than clear thought and analysis.


mike r

If you string enough words together you can convince anybody of anything. Jim Jones proved this. Teachers have more awake time with kids than their parents.

Ok, I’ll bite.
That’s a pretty broad brush many seem to be painting with. My 21 year old daughter is about to get her teaching degree in “Consumer and Family Science” Home Ec. When I was a kid, she can’t stand that so many kids don’t have any upbringing in life’s basic skills, and she has a carry permit, damn good with pistol shotgun and AR.
My brand new daughter in law teaches 2nd grade; kills her deer with a 300 blackout and turkeys with a 12 gauge . Carries a Kimber 9 mm in her purse or holster. I don’t see a teacher or professor unwinding everything my kids learned from our family; ever.

I don't like Black Lives Matter or the Bureau of Land Management. Both are rotten.

We had an old bitch that used to spray us in the face with overhead projector cleaner if we fell asleep in her class. I think it was mostly water but still.

We tied a goat to her desk on the last day of school. It chewed up half the stuff on her desk and dropped a thousand little goat nuggets all around it.

First off, I’d need to see the question and how it was framed, then I’d want to see how many teachers and how/where it was framed.

In my urban setting with all these younger teachers a vague “Do you support BLM” in a yes or no format would prob’ly get around 70 “yes”.

Most teachers that I encounter are the the very definition of “useful idiots.” Are they on the frontlines rioting? Mostly not. They’re the as someone else mentioned the emotional based “want to make a difference” type often young, overwhelmingly female and often not that many years out of college themselves and have very little practical real life skills or experience. They’re the idealistic pie in the sky type with little real world experience or practicalities.
Teachers on average have the lowest grade point average of any college profession, they go into it to have summers off and tend to be feelers not thinkers.

I only know one teacher. She went to a BLM rally and said it was beautiful. I'll bet it was. There are only 1% blacks here.

Another educator, I do not know him, was ultra liberal, until the BLM types were after him physically.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bret_Weinstein
Bret is still ultra liberal, but says things now like,"If the police can't stop the rioters the well armed rural conservatives will. "

Anyone shocked?

People gravitate towards these careers, teachers, mass media, social work, nurses, because "they want to make a difference".
Strictly an emotion based decision. 80% does not surprise me.
Defense attorneys love have these people in jury pools.

Whoa there cowboy, you are painting with a very broad brush when you throw nurses into the generalization. My daughter-in-law had me help out at a couple "nurse picnic/barbecues". By and large my experience talking and mostly listening, these gals (and guys) are about as firmly grounded in reality as any group of people you can name. When the wine and beer flow, and the truth is spoken, they are pretty close the 'fire people.

Mr Flintlocke.
I probably should have said, for most/many it is an emotion based decision.
Wanting to make a difference isn't always a bad thing.
We need folks that have that calling or gift of empathy in this world.
Your Daughter in law & her co workers may not fall into the 80%, but I bet they still went into the profession because they "want to make a difference".
My best friend is a teacher and he would not be in the 80% either, however my sister in law nurse, & sister in law teacher support BLM.
My daughter social worker has empathy for her clients but is not on board with BLM.
My son is a prosecutor and we were discussing a jury trail maybe 15 years ago, after the fact where I was the foreman and he informs of his professors telling students / prospective lawyers about the 4 professions I listed.
You would think the defense attorney would voir dire me as my son is a prosecutor.
My neighbor who just retired as a placement counselor for an area college says the surveys and response are the same today as 40 years ago about people picking those professions to "make a difference".
Anyway the original statement is 81% so that leaves room for your daughter in law nurse & my daughter social worker.

Your memoirs. Im waiting for them ; )

If you look into EdWeek Research Center, a non-profit based in Bethesda, they do not list this survey on their website, so the question and how it was posed can only be speculated upon thus far. As well, if you look into who funds this non-profit, at least one of their main contributors is the Wallace Foundation, which is heavy into social justice.

I am guessing the survey didn't happen, as it wasn't required, and that the outcome was funded by the Wallace Foundation as an excuse to further indoctrinate children into the narrative that whites are evil and blacks need to be given everything.

The educational system is what it is because....

https://www.brighteon.com/11faa7b4-e3be-4c51-bb3b-a6549fb83b89

Your reading comprehension sucks. Try this:
Back in the 70s, most teachers were flaming liberals.

I'm sad to report that my once conservative daughter (whose husband is a Major in the Army Reserve) is all in for BLM. It has shocked me. Being a teacher has completely corrupted her mind and soul.

Therein lies the problem.

Teacher and journalists are cut from the same Godless, leftist lot.

We (my wife) home schooled the girls and now the grandsons. Teach them right and they learn right.

My dad was a teacher....I got to the point I never wanted to spend time with him.

12th grade daughter was talking about her classes last night, after her first day.

Concerned about he college Lit. class.
The teacher said "I like lively discussions, there will be times when it might
feel as if the whole class is against you. They are not, we have different ideas
and I encourage you to discuss them. Do you think people in this area are conservative?
I'm as liberal as they come. So, it gets interesting."


So I'm curious how this will play out. She was straight up honest, so we will see.
There are the rare individuals who can have a cordial discussion of differing
ideas.

With Covid split classes I'm not sure who will be in the class, but there are only
one or two liberal kids she is usually with. Most are outspoken conservative.
Several who love to argue.
Jenna, doesn't like confrontation from a distance. But, in the moment she can't
keep from speaking out, and will not back down.

Teachers seem to be a group that gravitate to the left side of the political spectrum and are unfortunately all too ready to preach their views to their pupils.

Parents need to talk about politics with their children from a young age to counteract the teaching industries propaganda. My parents did with me and I with my daughters. They are as right wing as I am. In class they sometimes kept their mouth shut to avoid persecution from the College instructor and class mates.

The kids are being indoctrinated all through school.

It's wrong - more like 95%...

When I was in my Masters program, some of the education people had joint classes with me. They pretty much all squeaked by with barely passing grades, but anyway one of them came to a class final toting a piece of cardboard with a macaroni man glued to it with Elmer's glue. Asked him about it and he said that was part of his finals turn-in for some kind of education class. Making a kindergarten level stick figure out of fugging macaroni. Tough class. Lol

I know this: After speaking with a few, I tend to think academia is screwed. They (stereotypically) seem to have a fear of peer pressure....much more so than typical contemporary Americans. IMO, this makes them the perfect crowd for control under union leadership.

Not surprising at all. Two generations plus of a democrat matriarchy running our schools and teachers unions. This is were our demise will come from and its showing. It's only a matter of time before the vote to change us.

Well, duh. Teachers ARE union members.

My wife is also a retired teacher and I know she doesn't sympathize at all with the BLM. She also doesn't think the 81% figure is right.. But, I don't think she knows any black teachers.

It's not that most liberals are teachers, it's that most teachers are liberals.

I have several 'teachers' in my immediate famdamily.
Mom-started teaching in 66, NEA to the max but raised conservative, hated Trump but is now very slowly coming around at 85 years of age[tomorrow].
Middle brother, conservative, would NOT join any teachers unions[no matter how hard mother pushed].
SIL[oldest brother], see middle brother above.
I do also know many liberal teachers.

Phrasing of question and who actually responded gives 'them' their desired result.

My daughter and her husband are both teachers and I guess, in the 19%. Both solid Christians, conservatives, gun supporters, and they've chosen to not be members of their district unions. And they have lots of teacher friends whose convictions and politics are like theirs. We are in the Midwest so not as many libs as the east and west coasts.

Send your kids to a private or church based school. My wife was raised Catholic and sent our 3 kids to her former Pre K- 12 local Catholic school. Except for the Catholic indoctrination which my kids saw right through the classes were taught by decent right thinking conservative teachers. Two big advantages of private education are that parents are paying and disruptive students are not tolerated. They are sent home or to public school. When parents pay they are interested. Even though our teachers were paid less we had better teachers and the students had higher achievement scores. Of course a lot of the higher scoring was due to the fact that people with means to send children to private school are generally more intelligent to start with and pass those genes on to the offspring. We spent thousands of $ but we kept our kids out of the public zoo.

You think they don't? I'm surprised it's that low.

I am getting emails from a student teacher. He is a Bernie volunteer. He is concerned with the distribution of wealth. He is disgusted with Biden for saying something about God given abilities.

My attitude is education cannot change IQ, and IQ is proportional to wealth.

LOL

The other 19% didn’t know what BLM meant.

I wouldn't be surprised. Ex-wife is a teacher, and a good one. You wouldn't believe the degree of dumbass in that crowd. Most of them would see "Black LIves Matter", never do any further research, and throw their votes and money at it.

I'm not kidding.

Doesn't surprise me depending on area. My wife is a teacher in public schools and in our area in rural NC its not nearly that high. A couple of my teacher hunting buddies are as conservative as you'll find too. I will agree that teaching isn't the hardest degree to obtain and can draw the low motivation student. Not many scientists and engineers suddenly decide to start teaching. That being said there are plenty of intelligent people in this world that suffer from the mental disorder of liberalism.

Hard to say. My daughter has dual-credit classes at the local community college. Las year, when she was 15, she had a professor who was very liberal and made nearly every issue/event about racism. To the point that the hispanic and native american kids in the class would chuckle at his constant references to 'racism'. My daughter argued with him on several occasions and even called out his silliness a time or two in front of the class. I told here that I didn't mind if she failed the class as long as she stood her ground. Surprisingly, she received an A in the class.

My neighbor (teacher) started the unsolicited mentioning of how she couldn't go back to work 2.5 months ago. They were getting primed back then. She randomly mentioned it to my wife and me on several pass-by occasions and I found the redundancy tedious, so I finally asked her if she was high risk. “No” was the answer.

I asked if she felt she’d die if she caught it. “I don‘t want to find out” was the answer. I then stated that unless she had other information, I was led to believe survival is 99% and asked if not finding out was worth setting an entire generation of children back in educational and social development.

She was visibly agitated and said she didn’t want to die. I’m assuming she’s being fed a daily dose of fear and loathing from school acquaintances and union updates, but the point is, regardless of the source, she’s marching in lockstep with the narrative and I’m sure that carries over to topics like BLM.

Before my transfer to PA, my hunting buddy’s wife taught, as well. Aydlett, NC. She came with stories about throwing pizza parties if the one kid that had behavioral issues didn’t have an episode for 2 weeks (bullying, standing up on the desk and shouting, etc). Meanwhile, every other (properly behaving) kid gets nothing. Teaching 1 kid how to hold people hostage to hostility and training 18 others how to submit to it.

You ever been around your conservative hunting buddies in a room full of teachers and their boss?

What survey? Where is the survey? Let's look at the survey before we comment on its veracity.

https://www.edweek.org/rc/index.html

Your article, only linked to the Daily Mail (and one of two administrators), which made mention of a survey done by Ed Week Research Center but where is this 'survey' that is now being talked about?

Until I see a survey and see who and how many people answered the survey and see if it was even done or if teachers or administrators or boards or who actually answered a survey (and how many), there is no survey and the whole article and reference to a survey is bs. (checked all surveys and research reports for June. Nadda survey that I can find?)

(offspring of an educator that actually taught me to have a critical eye and question everything! "of teachers surveyed" could mean none or 5?)

Sweeping comments that ALL teachers are liberal is about as useful as people saying guns are bad. Think about it. How about a survey of teachers leaving the profession in droves? (just as cops are) Government officials are pressuring school districts which in turn call the shots as to teacher behavior and resources but reference to a survey that supposedly reports what teachers actually 'think', when one can't even FIND said survey, just angers and frustrates me.

A teacher has no business expressing their political leanings to their students.

It should be fired. Disciplined at a minimum.

Very similar to my experience. One summer I took a graduate course in correlation and regression. They threw in education students, teachers who were working on an advanced degree. The contrast was stark. The education students would ask questions that had the other students (and probably the prof) rolling their eyes.

I don't mean to disrespect good teachers, but it's well documented that graduate degrees in education fields, as reflected by GRE scores among other metrics, are not especially intellectually demanding.

Nope but I can imagine they chew their cheeks until they bleed and STFU just to stay employed. They do have choices in the curriculum and how it is delivered and I'd bet they wouldnt promote any liberal BS. One in particular has his own woodworking business and no money issues and could quit whenever he'd like if he had enough but recently stopped teaching middle school science to take over the HS shop class.

Just fished with the other last weekend and said they have a new black female principal who appears to be "woke". He seemed thrilled with the idea of working for such an idiot. Both worked at the same school until the other took that shop position.

My wife teaches Kindergarten so she is well aware of the preferential treatment given to those type kids just for doing what is expected of others. Her having had a few of those over the years make me realize I could never teach and deal with them and keep my cool. The new remote/in-person schedule they are on is even more difficult on teachers. The good ones really do care and carry a lot of stress. Our great governor decided they weren't worthy of a raise this year since he couldn't tie in his socialistic handouts to the bill that would have given them a raise. Sadly at least 60% of teachers will still vote for the jackass since he has a D beside his name.

Hear, hear!

Over a long stretch as a university student and teacher I watched the math education major deteriorate. At the beginning the requirements were those for a math major with a couple of classroom management and ed theory courses on the side. The math courses they took were the real ones for math, physics and engineering. At the end they were ed majors with a few math courses thrown in, and those were mainly contrived "XYZ topic for Teachers" jobs.

Reading your 5 paragraphs that state you are needing a source to prove that 80% of teachers are liberals, just angers and frustrates me.

https://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2020/06/25/educators-support-black-lives-matter-but-still.html

He is one stupid Biotch that's for sure lol

I’ve known a few teachers in the recent (20 or so years) past. As a general statement, these are good people, two that specifically come to mind, think that they are conservative, but by my definition .....don’t make the cut!

I see several folks here that believe that the 81% is too high. I suggest that our opinions are based upon personal experiences. If we are conservative, we tend to gravitate toward conservatives and most likely live in a relatively conservative area/region. As a graphic example.....there is no way in hell that I would live in NYC! I would choose a much more conservative region of the nation to reside and be employed in! Hence....I would know more conservatives, which would affect my perception of the liberal vs. conservative percentile! memtb

I guess it really depends on the State you live in. My wife is a retired teacher. The majority of her x teacher friends are conservative. I’ll admit there is also a couple of nuts. Hasbeen

The headline is misleading. 81% of teachers surveyed means they polled a group of them not all of them. Where I live they are probably representative of the population. Conservative,Liberal, and in between. I have several in my family and all are conservative. I know several and how they believe and more are conservative than liberal. They get liberal ideas shoved at them in college but when they get out in the world start working and raising a family many figure out they were conned in college.

Either many of you speak as to what you do not know or maybe your are radicals? But your blanket statements are unfounded. I am a teacher..for many years. I live in the upper midwest in a conservative state. Off hand I do not know any other teacher that supports all of what you mentioned. We may support people treated fairly but we also believe rioters and looters, idiots- should be put down. I can't speak for big cities, large communities east or west of me but in the general area of the country we are not liberal. So throwing blanket statements around about how awful all teachers are is like someone saying "EVERYONE on 24hrcamp are radical dipsh!ts." I would assume this isn't true?

So does the teachers' union support Trump now? The past 50 years the teachers' union has always funded anti conservative politicians, uncontrolled illegal immigration and anti gun legislation. Thats a well proven fact

Don't doubt it . My sister was a career school teacher in Raleigh, NC. After she retired she said when she started teaching she was proud of being a teacher. When she retired not so much. She said a lot of what is taught is heavily influenced by the teacher's union. I fish with a retired teacher who at one time was on the school board. He retired ten years early rather then teach the required curriculum.

I can't answer that. I am not a part of the union in my school/state. Only two teachers are in my school and by and large, majority of teachers in my state do not participate in the union.
I hope this goes to my earlier point. Please down blanket all teachers in such a terrible light. Where I live is nothing like Cali or NY etc.

Here's another article about a school district that wanted parents to sign a statement that they wouldn't 'listen in' during virtual teaching:

https://www.wnd.com/2020/08/tenn-sc...waiver-saying-wont-observe-online-class/

Here's a quote:

"While conversations about race are in my wheelhouse, and remain a concern in this no-walls environment – I am most intrigued by the damage that ‘helicopter/snowplow’ parents can do in honest conversations about gender/sexuality…"

Uh-oh.

How do we find the porthole to Little House on the Prairie?

Which conservative state do you live in?

South Dakota
ps...please stay away!

yep

Gotta admit Dan. Semper pithy.

just read the 30K+

I have a few friends that are teachers. All are republicans! I do believe they are a minority, in their profession! A state being liberal or conservative, has less to do with it, than urban or rural. Urban areas draw the liberal teachers! Rural communities draw the conservative teachers, from what I have observed! Some call my state liberal, not understanding its only the cities that are liberal! Not one rural county voted blue in the last election! Hopefully Portland will burn and the liberals will move to Seattle! Wishful thinking!

Very curious that the overwhelming sentiment of the alt right is that education is indoctrinating our youth with liberalism, instead of questioning why their ultra conservative views don’t hold up to the rigorous scrutiny of academia.

Rigorous scrutiny of academia?

Got a link for that, new guy?

Bingo.

I spent more than enough time in "academia". I saw little to no evidence of scrutiny while I was in the thick of it, and since, I have seen evidence that the amount of scrutiny involved cannot currently be measured by "science". More than half of peer-reviewed works that are considered "accepted science" are simply not "science" at all, since they are not reproducible.

Liberalism is an utter farce, as seen by the fruits of it over time. You are free to imagine whatever delusion gives you comfort, however. You will have to notice, eventually, that this civilization is falling down around you.

Most are educated beyond their intelligence level.

South Dakota is not the “upper Midwest.”

You live in the equivalent of 1965. Hardly comparable to the rest of the United States.

And I’m not saying that as a dig. I like South Dakota.

You sure got that right! I will steal that quote and give credit!!

Ideology and reality are so very far from each other in 2020, maybe further apart then they have ever been but what do I know. The ideology of conservatism is far superior to liberalism. The reality is not. Both extremes are tearing this country apart, you can't blame one side more than the other.

Conservatism: the conservation of social norms and ideas that have proven themselves over time to produce a stable society.

Yeah, reality...

Dude, STFU.

You left out the part about desperately clinging to the our extremely racist past and failing to adapt and change to a new world with nearly 8 billion humans. The only way forward is not to go backwards...

I can copy and past from Wikipedia too.

This is where we are and what we need in this country:

A secondary meaning for the term liberal conservatism that has developed in Europe is a combination of more modern conservative (less traditionalist) views with those of social liberalism. This has developed as an opposition to the more collectivist views of socialism. Often this involves stressing what are now conservative views of free market economics and belief in individual responsibility, with social liberal views on defence of civil rights, environmentalism and support for a limited welfare state. In continental Europe, this is sometimes also translated into English as social conservatism.

Again: STFU. It's only racism when white people do it. There is no "new world", dipschitt. This is the same world that has been here a very long time.

You are sucked into a horseshit progressive narrative, and don't seem to be aware of it. I suggest getting some help from a friend, who could grab your shoulders and pull until your head comes out of your ass.

Quite possibly post of the year.

My mother is a retired teacher and while she was pro teacher union while in, she’s changed her ways since retirement. Most of her friends are all retired now, and they all say that their political believes should never be seen or heard by their students. All of my mom’s friends that taught, were also at church every Sunday. I guess growing up in small town America m, teachers had more conservative values, it now days a lot has changed in the school district. Of course college, that’s a whole different level of liberals from my experience.

I guess we will have to agree to disagree. It's a shame you are unable to do so in a tactful manner. Truly makes me question how and why (or if?) you got so involved in the world of academia as you claim.

There is a new world. One that has 7.5 Billion people and is rapidly growing, with no change in the size of the earth or the resources on it. My main draw to the left is protecting planet earth and a dash of social justice, I otherwise am very Libertarian (voted for Gary Johnson).

Who is "our"?


What a global homo you are, new gal.

Curious. What makes our past racist?

Ramsdudes sounds awfully close to Buttfugker.

LOL

It's such a shame that this country is so full of people whose heads are buried in the sand that are so completely convinced that anybody who has different thoughts has their head buried in the sand.

How in the world can anyone that has read a single history book refute that this country has a racist past. Open your eyes and you will see we still have a racist present. And YES that goes in multiple directions not only white people are racist...there are just more white people in this country and it sells better to put white racism on the news.

Bet you’d change your tune if I stood behind you with a hard on.

LOL

truly good teachers are amazing people, but i have also met a few who really don't like their jobs, the students or the parents. they like the money, benefits, Summers off if that's their thing. For some, the return after Summer vacation can be a real problem for them.

I remember a racist past. I remember going to an AutoZone in town. It was close to MLK ave, & was the only one in town that had the neutral saftey switch I needed. I remember rap music coming out of speakers in freakin autozone. I recall being only white dude in there with a dozen black dudes. I recall them cutting in line at register , & daring me to do something. This was 20 yrs ago. I could give more examples of the so called racist past. Give me a freakin break.

Your eloquence knows no bounds.

If you are referring to me, sir, please re-read my query. I refuted nothing. Your response, however, is telling.


Agreed. This may be something on which you may want to meditate in order to reduce the number.

Ummmmmmm, yes I most certainly can.

Is that you Piddles? New sockpuppet eh

Duderammer is an interesting choice of screen names.

Interesting that the majority of responses to my points are mediocre middle school grade insults. Very compelling stuff that really does a lot for the dialogue. Bravo

Again, no, this world is the same one that has existed for a very long time, with the same distinct group population characteristics that have existed for thousands of years. If by "our racist past" you mean slavery, well you're an idiot. EVERY population on the planet has been enslaved or has enslaved some group. Some, including the Africans, enslave each other.

It's still going on, so I guess according to you white people are still racist because Africans continue to enslave each other. That's how white people came to own enslaved Africans: we bought them from Africans. And then white people abolished slavery all over the globe, wherever we held sway. The places we don't hold sway are still engaging in slavery.

So you're an idiot. It's just that simple. You've bought wholesale a narrative that contains few facts, and those it contains are only partial facts. And you wonder why there is so much "racial oppression", I suppose. I'll tell you why: there are several distinct human haplogroups with distinct characteristics. In other words, there is more than one species categorized as "human". This has been known and understood for hundreds of years, and only in the last six decades has that understanding been questioned. Those groups are distinct in every way that matters, including social organization, proclivity toward violence, and intelligence level. These are facts.

Ignorance doesn't help, buttfuucker.

I don't post here much. Mainly just a lurker/reader, but felt compelled to respond to this.

As a current teacher/coach at the high school level, I would say that poll is pretty damn close to accurate. My high school and district is full of left leaning teachers and administrators. We've been back in school a few weeks and the lead up to it was full of gnashing of the teeth, bitching and moaning because they were expected to go back to work. Constant Facebook posts and emails with the same democrat talking points: "what about my safety?" "it's inevitable that we close back down," "why the rush when we can just do it virtual?"

The public education system, as a whole, is a huge pile of $hit in my opinion.

BLM are an anti-American/socialist/communist group which funnels money into DNC for the democrats. Nothing to do with black lives. They were founded by marxist released from jail by Bill Clinton. The founders are white criminals.

https://blacklivesmatter.com/


It is an easy choice. Vote republican for everything. Then the USA stays alive and free. Otherwise, the democrat anti-American/socialist/communist/marxist/liberal wins and freedom is gone along with anything which was the USA including our Constitution.

GFY Paddler

If you make a point I’ll stop calling you Buttfugker.

Interesting that I’m the ignorant one, while you sling insults and ignore most of what I’m saying - which actually aligns with a lot of the things you are saying. Kind of highlights the primary problem with this country - we are more similar than different - and yet you want to berate me and insult me for trying to have an intelligent dialogue.

Clearly your emotional response is too heavily involved to have a rational dialogue and so I will discontinue trying. The others chiming in don’t even contribute any intellectual thought, so I will at least thank you for doing that.

My BIL iswas a schoolteacher for 44 years and a wrestling and football coach for the same. I have been a union carpenter for 50 years. And we are both vitrine for Trump!

It's well past the time to defund teachers

Again, I don’t know to whom you are speaking, but I believe I speak for everyone when I say thank you for that and good day.

Whew.....I thought he’d never leave. Now about those teachers.....

You wouldn't know "intelligent dialog" if it cut the tip of your dick off and called it a "medical procedure".

Believe me, if I wanted to berate you, I'd do more than call you names. You have zero intellectual ground to stand on, because you are not dealing with facts. If you imagine that emotional language is somehow separate from rational discussion regarding the very values your world is founded within, you don't understand those values, or their utter necessity, and thus we really have nothing to discuss.

It's not wrong. In fact, I am a bit surprised the percentage is that low.

How do you think our country got this way? Do you think all those kids came up with the same ideas at the same time in every part of the nation? If you think that, you below a fool. No! They were taught, and it was an organized effort of TEACHERS which YOU paid for with taxes. Want to defund someone? Start with property taxes and the "public" (meaning communist government) Schools.

Next, if necessary............defund police in the same way. if they try to force you to pay for the communist agenda. (They will if they are not able to see the truth themselves and just do what they are told. Forcing folks to pay for teachings that will cause them to get fired and/or killed. But most cops will not do their own thinking or see that far into the obvious future and nearly ALL ignore their oath to uphold and DEFEND the Constitution of the united States,a gains ALL enemies foreign and DOMESTIC!)

The tragic thing is that none of this is going to calm down at all, until it becomes an all out no-holds-bared conflict, and the cops are in a position to choose the right side or the communist side, but MOST will choose the communist side because of a paycheck.

It's not going to be someone else's problem anymore. No one can avoid this one. It's like being on a sinking ship. Do something to sink it, or do something to stop it's slinking, but doing nothing IS helping the people who are active in sinking it.

ROTFLMAO!!!

South Dakota is deemed upper midwest. Coming from a Florida res I'll take that as a compliment. You best stay clear.

I know many teachers, they don’t think the same as we do.

Enjoy teaching.

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A teacher has no business expressing their political leanings to their students.

It should be fired. Disciplined at a minimum.
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My wife is a retired teacher and believes this. She did how ever set up classes with the Oklahoma Wildlife Dept. for hunters safety education and also NRA Eddie Eagle gun safety classes.

In our rural area here in SE Okla. I would say to be on the safe side 90% maybe 95% of the teachers or Trump supporters. If you stay away from OKC and Tulsa areas this is probably true for most of the state.

Sounds like her FBI husband is a cuck.

My wife is a speech pathologist in a local school system and I spend a fair amount of time around teachers in a different school where our kids attend as I help with sports. Small, conservative, rural area. The teachers here are representative of the community, most of them grew up in the community or just down the road. I'd say real close to RNF's 90-95% estimate of being conservative. There's an occasional odd ball but they stick out like a sore thumb. I can't speak to to other areas but I feel fortunate to have the teachers we do in our school system.

An article by a former teacher on indoctrination:

https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/08...tting-indoctrinated-by-leftist-ideology/