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Posted By: Old_Toot Ford Raptor 1/2 Ton Trucks - 09/16/20
Anyone here have one?

Know someone who does have one?

Any info and comments welcomed including hearsay about them.


Thanks
The Tootster
Posted By: deflave Re: Ford Raptor 1/2 Ton Trucks - 09/16/20
No.

Yes.

Their capabilities will not be used by 99% of the people that buy them. And if they are, expect schit to break often.
Yep.

Just a cool ride.
The new Dodge Ram TRX with 700+ hp is another.

My 2018 Tundra has lost the new smell but that could be the onset of Covid.
Posted By: Remsen Re: Ford Raptor 1/2 Ton Trucks - 09/16/20
I've seriously damaged every truck I've owned (never in an accident, just by running them hard), but I had one of the original Raptors with the 5.4 and couldn't break it. This was after cracking the frame on a Dodge pickup by not slowing down enough to jump over ditches in a corn field, so from that perspective it was pretty much indestructible. The problem with it was that I lived in California at the time, in the SF Bay Area, and it was a real pain to drive around town, so I got rid of it for a more practical car in that environment (a VW Golf/Rabbit).

As much as I'd like one now that I live in MT, my current F150 (just an XLT, not a Raptor) does everything I ask of it and doesn't make me look like a guy who just finished his first year working at 7/11.
Posted By: deflave Re: Ford Raptor 1/2 Ton Trucks - 09/16/20
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Yep.

Just a cool ride.
The new Dodge Ram TRX with 700+ hp is another.

My 2018 Tundra has lost the new smell but that could be the onset of Covid.


I’d recommend you invest some money in books, and try reading them.

But it’s your money.

LOL
Posted By: deflave Re: Ford Raptor 1/2 Ton Trucks - 09/16/20
Originally Posted by Remsen
I've seriously damaged every truck I've owned (never in an accident, just by running them hard), but I had one of the original Raptors with the 5.4 and couldn't break it. This was after cracking the frame on a Dodge pickup by not slowing down enough to jump over ditches in a corn field, so from that perspective it was pretty much indestructible. The problem with it was that I lived in California at the time, in the SF Bay Area, and it was a real pain to drive around town, so I got rid of it for a more practical car in that environment (a VW Golf/Rabbit).

As much as I'd like one now that I live in MT, my current F150 (just an XLT, not a Raptor) does everything I ask of it and doesn't make me look like a guy who just finished his first year working at 7/11.


Oh, you can break ‘em.

LOL
Originally Posted by Remsen
I've seriously damaged every truck I've owned (never in an accident, just by running them hard), but I had one of the original Raptors with the 5.4 and couldn't break it. This was after cracking the frame on a Dodge pickup by not slowing down enough to jump over ditches in a corn field, so from that perspective it was pretty much indestructible. The problem with it was that I lived in California at the time, in the SF Bay Area, and it was a real pain to drive around town, so I got rid of it for a more practical car in that environment (a VW Golf/Rabbit).

As much as I'd like one now that I live in MT, my current F150 (just an XLT, not a Raptor) does everything I ask of it and doesn't make me look like a guy who just finished his first year working at 7/11.


Thanks Remsen.
I thought some of the early Raptors had the 6.2 liter.

My interest is in the 3.5 and hoping someone can comment. My nearest neighbor has one but it’s brand new with no appreciable miles on it.
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by Remsen
I've seriously damaged every truck I've owned (never in an accident, just by running them hard), but I had one of the original Raptors with the 5.4 and couldn't break it. This was after cracking the frame on a Dodge pickup by not slowing down enough to jump over ditches in a corn field, so from that perspective it was pretty much indestructible. The problem with it was that I lived in California at the time, in the SF Bay Area, and it was a real pain to drive around town, so I got rid of it for a more practical car in that environment (a VW Golf/Rabbit).

As much as I'd like one now that I live in MT, my current F150 (just an XLT, not a Raptor) does everything I ask of it and doesn't make me look like a guy who just finished his first year working at 7/11.


Oh, you can break ‘em.

LOL


No doubt.
Posted By: Remsen Re: Ford Raptor 1/2 Ton Trucks - 09/16/20
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Remsen
I've seriously damaged every truck I've owned (never in an accident, just by running them hard), but I had one of the original Raptors with the 5.4 and couldn't break it. This was after cracking the frame on a Dodge pickup by not slowing down enough to jump over ditches in a corn field, so from that perspective it was pretty much indestructible. The problem with it was that I lived in California at the time, in the SF Bay Area, and it was a real pain to drive around town, so I got rid of it for a more practical car in that environment (a VW Golf/Rabbit).

As much as I'd like one now that I live in MT, my current F150 (just an XLT, not a Raptor) does everything I ask of it and doesn't make me look like a guy who just finished his first year working at 7/11.


Thanks Remsen.
I thought some of the early Raptors had the 6.2 liter.

My interest is in the 3.5 and hoping someone can comment. My nearest neighbor has one but it’s brand new with no appreciable miles on it.



I think the 6.2 replaced the 5.4 after the first year or so, when Raptor sales went nuts and people were (rightfully) complaining that a high performance truck should have something better than a fleet engine (or something like that).
I can’t see paying 75K for a F150.
I think the new Raptors with the Ecoboost V6 make about 550 hp.
That baby should scream! My 2015 Ecoboost V6 has 385 hp and was plenty stout.
Posted By: ribka Re: Ford Raptor 1/2 Ton Trucks - 09/16/20
Originally Posted by Old Ornery
I can’t see paying 75K for a F150.


and never use 4x4, or drive inn the snow

Great trucks for Florida, Texas, Bahamas

Good power, lots of cool looking add on’s to make them look like a trophy truck. But the rest of truck is standard F150.

Good truck if you want to cruise town looking cool, not a real off road truck. With a god suspension and some frame reinforcement they would be decent.
I thought they were supposed to be able to jump (small)chit?


No?


Serious question.
Posted By: deflave Re: Ford Raptor 1/2 Ton Trucks - 09/16/20
Originally Posted by SamOlson
I thought they were supposed to be able to jump (small)chit?


No?


Serious question.


Yes.

They are and can.
Posted By: deflave Re: Ford Raptor 1/2 Ton Trucks - 09/16/20
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
I think the new Raptors with the Ecoboost V6 make about 550 hp.
That baby should scream! My 2015 Ecoboost V6 has 385 hp and was plenty stout.


They’re 450ish.
Posted By: Cheesy Re: Ford Raptor 1/2 Ton Trucks - 09/16/20
Kids friends dad had a Tundra. Traded on a new Raptor, saY a 2017 version? He got rid of it in under 2 years and back to a Tundra. Said the Raptor was always in the shop. I never asked what for.
Originally Posted by SamOlson
I thought they were supposed to be able to jump (small)chit?


No?


Serious question.



Search bent raptor frames, or midget porn, whatever floats your boat.
Originally Posted by SamOlson
I thought they were supposed to be able to jump (small)chit?


No?


Serious question.


Rid in one doin some "jumps".

It was like Evel Knievel.

Right speed for a smooth landing, no problem.

Do a Caesar's, ya gotta problem.
Posted By: Plumdog Re: Ford Raptor 1/2 Ton Trucks - 09/16/20
Saw rows and rows of new Raptors at Phil Long Ford in Denver. Was thinking what kind of strange self-doubt and ease of financing makes these show boats sell. They are loud too.
They are cool if you want a baha style truck. Personally I need to tow and the soft long travel suspension does not work well for that. The rear ends on em squat bad with even fairly light trailers. I would be more inclined to do an regular f150 an do aftermarket mods or go to the HD with the 7.3.
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by SamOlson
I thought they were supposed to be able to jump (small)chit?


No?


Serious question.


Yes.

They are and can.





Thought they had a pretty forgiving suspension in regards to off road but obviously not an ideal tower.



They'd be fun but I can't afford a $$$ 'fun' pickup.


900cc sxs if I need to get sporty.


What I really want is a Honda Pioneer 1000 with a nice cab.
Posted By: kevinJ Re: Ford Raptor 1/2 Ton Trucks - 09/16/20
Buddy had one. 2017 model. He would take it to wind rock and ride it like a dang side by side. Legitimately hardcore off-road use. I had the pleasure of going with him once. It will definitely jump stuff. Was way harder on it than probably 99% of the people that own one. He was using a programmer to get more power but no clue what brand

Being a trust fund baby has perks according to him. He did drop a drive shaft one time, but other than being beat all to hell it never gave up. It was totalled in dec 2019. Got hit by a Prius literally going 90. Killed driver of Prius instantly. Totalled the truck. Broke both his arms. He is wanting a dodge trx now.
Posted By: add Re: Ford Raptor 1/2 Ton Trucks - 09/16/20
Originally Posted by deflave
Originally Posted by SamOlson
I thought they were supposed to be able to jump (small)chit?


No?


Serious question.


Yes.

They are and can.


[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
My 2018 Tundra has lost the new smell but that could be the onset of Covid.

Keep the Tundra.
Posted By: TheKid Re: Ford Raptor 1/2 Ton Trucks - 09/16/20
Buddy had one for his going to town nice rig. It was the first year for the EB/10sp combo. Amazing machine for a stock truck.

He’d jump it over the railroad crossing down south of town here and it was like landing on a pillow. I’d take my single wheel 1 ton across it at 5mph and beat my teeth out, he’d hit it at 40 and laugh.

We pulled a 18’ enclosed trailer full of camp gear and wheelers to CO elk hunting with it one year and it was impressive pulling the passes with the little boosted V6. I think it got like 14 MPG doing it too. When we got there we unhooked and spent some time cruising greasy muddy forest service roads. Put it in whatever off-road mode and it would go like heck.

He swapped it off this year but had no complaints and no visits to the mechanics.
They look badass...needs to be a 250 though.
Posted By: SCgman1 Re: Ford Raptor 1/2 Ton Trucks - 09/16/20
My 2004 ranger 2.3L is bad azzzzzz.....as in bad on my azz anytime I hit a bump of any kind. It's a family hand-me-down.......I'm the 3rd owner.
Posted By: add Re: Ford Raptor 1/2 Ton Trucks - 09/16/20
Originally Posted by SCgman1
My 2004 ranger 2.3L is bad azzzzzz.....as in bad on my azz anytime I hit a bump of any kind. It's a family hand-me-down.......I'm the 3rd owner.


sonuvabitch!
Posted By: SCgman1 Re: Ford Raptor 1/2 Ton Trucks - 09/16/20
Originally Posted by add
Originally Posted by SCgman1
My 2004 ranger 2.3L is bad azzzzzz.....as in bad on my azz anytime I hit a bump of any kind. It's a family hand-me-down.......I'm the 3rd owner.


sonuvabitch!


Dont hate just cuz I'm living the dream.
Originally Posted by Salty303




Holy fuuck, now that is giving it your all!
Posted By: deflave Re: Ford Raptor 1/2 Ton Trucks - 09/16/20
Originally Posted by SamOlson





Thought they had a pretty forgiving suspension in regards to off road but obviously not an ideal tower.



They'd be fun but I can't afford a $$$ 'fun' pickup.


900cc sxs if I need to get sporty.


What I really want is a Honda Pioneer 1000 with a nice cab.


Posted By: add Re: Ford Raptor 1/2 Ton Trucks - 09/16/20
Originally Posted by Salty303

lol

MEDIC!!!
It says Raptor right on it Raptors are supposed to fly WTF just happened?! lol
Originally Posted by deflave
No.

Yes.

Their capabilities will not be used by 99% of the people that buy them. And if they are, expect schit to break often.


I put a 3 month break on one by engaging the 4 low. shocked

Exhaust sounds kewl.
Posted By: callnum Re: Ford Raptor 1/2 Ton Trucks - 09/16/20
I have one, you can’t afford one.
Posted By: Seafire Re: Ford Raptor 1/2 Ton Trucks - 09/16/20
Originally Posted by kevinJ
Buddy had one. 2017 model. He would take it to wind rock and ride it like a dang side by side. Legitimately hardcore off-road use. I had the pleasure of going with him once. It will definitely jump stuff. Was way harder on it than probably 99% of the people that own one. He was using a programmer to get more power but no clue what brand

Being a trust fund baby has perks according to him. He did drop a drive shaft one time, but other than being beat all to hell it never gave up. It was totalled in dec 2019. Got hit by a Prius literally going 90. Killed driver of Prius instantly. Totalled the truck. Broke both his arms. He is wanting a dodge trx now.


Glad there is one less Prius driving liberal democRAT on the road...

Glad your buddy made it out okay...
Posted By: Seafire Re: Ford Raptor 1/2 Ton Trucks - 09/16/20
Originally Posted by add
Originally Posted by Salty303

lol

MEDIC!!!


Stupid schitt....
Posted By: Stan V Re: Ford Raptor 1/2 Ton Trucks - 09/16/20
Son has a 2014, bought it here in Texas before being transferred to Colorado. 4x4, pulled 35' trailer while there and just moved a 30' to our deer camp 3 weeks ago. They moved back to Texas last summer. Bad to the bone truck and has not had it in the shop at all. Fully loaded and very impressive.
Posted By: 1911a1 Re: Ford Raptor 1/2 Ton Trucks - 09/16/20
Originally Posted by Salty303


I think that was Super Dave Osborne driving that Raptor!


Posted By: KFWA Re: Ford Raptor 1/2 Ton Trucks - 09/16/20
Posted By: KFWA Re: Ford Raptor 1/2 Ton Trucks - 09/16/20
A friend of mine buys them and puts a couple of thousand on the ODO and then ships them to the Netherlands and other EURO countries for a nice chunk. They are popular there. He is a master mechanic and said he preferred Toyota's over them as far as quality.
Much appreciate the comments and advice, Gents.

Appreciate the laughs also!!

The Tootster
Posted By: edapp Re: Ford Raptor 1/2 Ton Trucks - 09/16/20
Brother has had two. 6.2l and the newer ecoboost model. Both great trucks, I was suprised to see that there was actually some legitimate improvements over a basic f150 (not just the badging like many other high $ "trim" options).

Both handle extremely well and the suspension has been impressive. They are significantly wider than a stock f150 though, so depending on where you live that could be a problem or not. The ecoboost raptor hauls ass. A little too showy for my taste, but whatever.
Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
A friend of mine buys them and puts a couple of thousand on the ODO and then ships them to the Netherlands and other EURO countries for a nice chunk. They are popular there. He is a master mechanic and said he preferred Toyota's over them as far as quality.


Back in the 1970s Bob Chandler was building and selling Big Foot Ford F-250s just like the ones his team raced. His biggest customer base were the Nordic countries then other European destinations.

IIRC they were selling for 250k usd$ plus shipping.
Posted By: killerv Re: Ford Raptor 1/2 Ton Trucks - 09/16/20
Don't you have to run premium gas in the 6.2s? I know you do in the GMs. But then again if you can purchase a 70k truck whats paying up for premium gas.

Dr friend of mine wanted a rapter but ended up with a GMC AT4 with the 6.2....420hp. He just couldn't justify 15-20grand more for the rapter.
Originally Posted by killerv
Don't you have to run premium gas in the 6.2s? I know you do in the GMs. But then again if you can purchase a 70k truck whats paying up for premium gas.

Dr friend of mine wanted a rapter but ended up with a GMC AT4 with the 6.2....420hp. He just couldn't justify 15-20grand more for the rapter.



Was told that the Raptors required 93 octane to make the 450 hp.
Posted By: okie Re: Ford Raptor 1/2 Ton Trucks - 09/16/20
Originally Posted by Salty303



That looks like Balcher near Saint Jo Tx south side of the Red. That place keeps the Saint Jo ambulance service hopping....lots of off roading - motorcycle - four wheeler shenanigans pulled down there....
Posted By: 1911a1 Re: Ford Raptor 1/2 Ton Trucks - 09/16/20
Originally Posted by okie
Originally Posted by Salty303



That looks like Balcher near Saint Jo Tx south side of the Red. That place keeps the Saint Jo ambulance service hopping....lots of off roading - motorcycle - four wheeler shenanigans pulled down there....


I imagine so, I bet you hear this a lot, "Hold my beer and watch this"

Now destroying a 60 thousand dollar truck to prove you are cool... that’s impressive
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
A friend of mine buys them and puts a couple of thousand on the ODO and then ships them to the Netherlands and other EURO countries for a nice chunk. They are popular there. He is a master mechanic and said he preferred Toyota's over them as far as quality.


Back in the 1970s Bob Chandler was building and selling Big Foot Ford F-250s just like the ones his team raced. His biggest customer base were the Nordic countries then other European destinations.

IIRC they were selling for 250k usd$ plus shipping.


I don't know exactly what he sells them for , all I know is he buys them new and waits months for deliveries and then he and his mechanics drive them and put miles on them so they can be sold as "used" which saves the buyer a ton in taxes.
Originally Posted by Salty303


How to destroy a $75K Truck in 3 seconds.
Posted By: Sako76 Re: Ford Raptor 1/2 Ton Trucks - 09/16/20
My doctor had one, used it to rock crawl. He got married and that ended the rock crawling. He took it to the body shop because he saw some rust underneath, they told him the entire frame was rusted out and it wasn't worth fixing. He traded it back in to Ford for another Raptor, he loves them. I think they gave him $38K on the trade in, he lives in Easton PA so I don't know if he ever had the undercarriage washed.
Originally Posted by Sako76
My doctor had one, used it to rock crawl. He got married and that ended the rock crawling. He took it to the body shop because he saw some rust underneath, they told him the entire frame was rusted out and it wasn't worth fixing. He traded it back in to Ford for another Raptor, he loves them. I think they gave him $38K on the trade in, he lives in Easton PA so I don't know if he ever had the undercarriage washed.


They scoot along pretty swiftly. My neighbor and I hooked up with my
2006 Saleen and his new Raptor.

His 450 hp trumped my 345 hp. Not by much but he beat me. Twice.
I reeled him in on topside but that was way down the Hwy.

I have a buyer for the Saleen and 2 want my Tundra.
The Border Patrol had them up here so they could get to McDonald's in times of bad weather.
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
The Border Patrol had them up here so they could get to McDonald's in times of bad weather.




Flave would know that.
Posted By: deflave Re: Ford Raptor 1/2 Ton Trucks - 09/16/20
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
The Border Patrol had them up here so they could get to McDonald's in times of bad weather.




Money well spent.
Posted By: deflave Re: Ford Raptor 1/2 Ton Trucks - 09/16/20
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
The Border Patrol had them up here so they could get to McDonald's in times of bad weather.




Flave would know that.


We’ll add that to the very long list of things Flave knows.
Originally Posted by SamOlson
I thought they were supposed to be able to jump (small)chit?

No?

Serious question.

Older Ford Broncos can do that.
Originally Posted by Gringo Loco
Originally Posted by SamOlson
I thought they were supposed to be able to jump (small)chit?

No?

Serious question.

Older Ford Broncos can do that.


Yep.

Posted By: TheKid Re: Ford Raptor 1/2 Ton Trucks - 09/16/20
Jumped a terrace once in my 79 Bronco, alcohol may have been involved. 5500lb of iron hits HARD when you return to earth. smile

Had a buddy, and a truck load of my friends with him.

Put a turbo in his 69 bronco...

We used to all speed over a small railroad crossing and catch air, but Dave hammered it and kicked on the turbo, the truck went airborne and hit a telephone pole cutting the pole in half about 8 feet up, then the truck rolled a bunch of times.

It killed Dave when the solid steering wheel went through his chest, Lee was in a wheel chair for 2 years, I didn’t know the other guys but when they cut them out of the truck they were so bloody they couldn’t tell one from the other.. Bad day.
Brother in law in Arizona bought a new Raptor, I think it was the second year of production. He was 78 at the time and not a crazy driver, he just loved the acceleration is why he bought it. Anyway, the truck is a week old, he throws in 2 suitcases heads for BC to visit family. Catastrophic rear differential failure somewhere around Bellingham Washington. Warranty yes, but I think 4 days in a motel and meals in Bellingham. I think it had 2200 miles when it went tits.
Son of a friend from church got one. Wrapped it around a telephone pole within a few months. A bad first auto.
Posted By: Ken_L Re: Ford Raptor 1/2 Ton Trucks - 09/16/20
Originally Posted by Salty303


This is one of those "hold my beer, y'all gotta watch me do this" moments.
Posted By: RicG Re: Ford Raptor 1/2 Ton Trucks - 09/16/20
SIL has one. Maybe cool, but horrible (IMO) riding and handling. No thanks.
Good info and advice.

Thanks again.
They definitely have a cool factor, just out of my price range.
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
They look badass...needs to be a 250 though.

It's called the Tremor.
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