Is there a chance that ruger can pull the Marlin out of the toilet? Can they make a new lever gun superior to the JM?
Personally, I think they can pull it off.

Lose the button safety. Clothe them in plain walnut with no checkering like they did back in the 70s. Profit...

Don't think the "lawyers" will let them lose the safety.

Then again, I've been mistaken before.

I think they can too. I suspect that they’ll especially focus on the big bore Marlin lever actions and build them to be good strong guns. I don’t see any reason why that wouldn’t carryover to the 336.

If they're as good as the other guns they make, 3 out of 5 will be junk.

Everything I read on the subject said that after Rem realized the JM machinery was worn out & regrouped with new machinery & procedures, that the Remlin was as good or better than the JMs produced in the last year or two before they sold.

As far as a Ruglin? I'm gonna ride the fence & say I gotta wait & see. I can't be optimistic & say the Ruglin will be better than Rem due to my opening statement, but trying not to be pessimistic due to Ruger sending out a bunch of crap themselves for a few years. Thinking/hoping they're doing better at this time. It'll be a year or 2 IMO before we see anything from them if Ruger uses the newly purchased machinery.

I wonder about the 39A.

I don't think quality will be that different. I am hoping roger will do limited runs of different calibers like they do the #1

They may have start up problems, but probably not. Ruger seems to have their production methods down pretty pat. I'm sure they had problems in the past, but who hasn't? I've had Kimber, Remington, Winchester and others with problems on new firearms, always got them straightened out. I bought two revolvers and one pistol from Ruger this year and they have been flawless as far as I can tell so far with no problems. I imagine most of the people bashing Ruger hasn't bought a new Ruger firearm in many years, just parroting what they read on the internet. Why don't we just give them a chance and see what they can do? Either way, it's better than just letting a truly iconic American firearm company to just go away.

I'm excited and think they can do it. I would love to see them bring back the 1894 as well.

E.
No that’s not very nice!
Accurate, but not nice.

Ruglin vs Remlin? hmmmmm...................

Anybody too stupid to manage the cross bolt safety out to just use a damn pointy stick anyway. Fuggs sake. And I like the checkering but it wouldn’t keep me from buying one that didn’t have it.

I bet Ruger does well with the lineup.

Leaked picture of prototype Ruglin 336 "Traditional" for the legacy buyers:









Rumor has it they will update the features on this to appeal to the younger tactical crowd...

Maybe they can make a Redhawk/ 1894 package.

Wonder if they’ll be able to fit the Ruger safety warning on the side of the receiver????

A 444 with a 24 inch barrel.
No cross bolt.
No checkering.
Good modern recoil pad.

It would sell.

I heard Ruger will make a Mini 14 in 45-70 and a 336 in 223 that takes 30 rd mini 14 mags

Valsdad: After sales of their Model 700 PLUMMETED the tone deaf folks at Big Green (Remington!) "removed" their new safety bolt lock ("J" Lock) from that Rifle model and sales immediately perked up.
Maybe it can happen again?
I am VERY surprised the dimwits at Smith & Wesson haven't cancelled the "hillary lock" on their revolvers - I know it has significantly harmed their sales.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

From where did you hear this?

Was it From the same source that you couldn’t name saying that 90% of Hispanic people here were illegals?

Ruger is Smarter than Remington. They will keep the brands separate. First thing they have to do is let people know that it's a good gun, not the crap Remington started with. When Remington gave it up, they were producing a good gun. But since most gun people know [bleep] about guns, they are internet experts they keep the story going. Nothing wrong with the new Marlins and Ruger is going to be using the same equipment.

S&W has saddled themselves with that stupid (and dangerous) lock, and they're stuck with it FOREVER. Their corporate lawyers shriek in horror every time someone mentions getting rid of it. Ditching the lock would be tacit admission that the lock is faulty (it is). What do you think would happen then?

They/them is just trying to get some "gun related" posts to offset they/their regular programming. Only point in paying attention is to see if they/them reference anything that would out the fact they are a cock-puppet.

They will come out from beautiful Ruger castings.

It is rather ‘botish’.

Yet they have a Pro series J frame without the lock. Hard to read that message & the statement above. I'm confused as can be on the subject.

All models will now come with threaded barrels, and the receivers will be updated to include an integral section of Picatinny rail. Big loop lever as standard.

I hope Ruger will bring back the pistol grip 1984 models....

I'm shocked that S&W still offers anything without the lock.

Most likely.

No one wants that in 2020, they want .45-70s with stubby barrels and this kind of thing:

A rail on a lever gun ....kill the designer...twice......

They could at least move the sum bitch from the current location

How else you gonna mount that scope with the 30 mm tube?

I'd be happy with a lever gun in 44 mag or any other 40+cal ( for those of us in communist states that restrict what we can use) that is affordable and works.

I'd take, if need be, a composite stock but don't need all that tacticool crap.

It is pretty damned ugly. And they had to stretch the frame out around the hammer to accommodate it on the J, K, and L frames. Man, they're ugly.

Hopefully they let the revolver guys run the new Marlin lever gun side. At least they tend to keep things simple and fairly traditional. Please dont let the idiots in charge of special runs of 10/22s with the laser engravings of dragons/alligators/other BS anywhere near the Marlin levers.

Wonder what will happen to the Model 60? Being a direct competitor to the 10/22 I wonder if they will keep it around? I bought a new Model 60 in the last year and other than the usual poor trigger, it ahoots and functions well and has good fit. I'd hate to see it go away.

Ironically, other than mags, the 10/22 is said to be a near copy of the Marlin 60 that pre dates it by 4 or 5 years.. I don't have a 60 on hand to compare.

Ruger should buy a shotgun company next. Might be cheaper than trying to engineer, market one of their own.

[quote=Blackheart] If they're as good as the other guns they make, 3 out of 5 will be junk.[/quote



I’ve never owned any Ruger junk and I own a bunch of Ruger’s handguns and rifles.

I have never owned a lever action. By the looks of those prototypes if I ever develop a lever itch I will scratch it with a 99.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I've owned a bunch too, and still do.
Apparently someone hasn't ready any posts by S&W owners. They (Ruger) are making a LOT of guns. Last I heard around 2 million a year. Some are going to get out with a problem. Same thing happens with cars and trucks.

Not for me but I could see them selling something similar in stainless and it being a big seller in AK.

I'm in.

I wouldn’t mind a plain walnut stock and no safety, but wouldn’t cry about a threaded barrel as once you get a suppressor it’s hard not to want to use it on everything you can honestly.

I can understand why most wouldnt. The picatinny rail i don’t like. Don’t care for a tactical lever gun honestly.

But the threaded barrel would work for me, and I do understand I would be the minority in that.

Lets just say that between working as a gunsmith and behind the gun counter at a sporting goods for years, I probably saw more Rugers with manufacturing defects that never should have have left the factory than any other brand. If you think Ruger puts out a superior product or has a QC department you are blissfully naieve. The big, high production gun companies want product pumped out as fast as they can and quality be damned. You the customer are their QC department. Employees haven't the time, inclination or incentive to pick out flaws and/or make adjustments or exchange ill fitting parts before sending them out the door. They are overworked, under paid, pushed too fast and poorly/inadequately trained before being turned loose on the production line. I know these things to be true because among other things I also worked for a gun manufacturer and have seen these things for myself.

Producing one in .454 Casull might even increase the sales of the SRH Alaskan. Maybe even offer them as a combo package.

I don't know what Ruger will do with Marlin, but, Keeping my JM 30-30 regardless.

4" Redhawk and 18" 1894 in 41 mag.

Same here. I have 7 JM Marlins and they aren't going anywhere. I may still try a Ruglin but only because they do have good customer service and will repair, replace or refund your money in the event you get a dog. I have no illusions that they will put out a superior product. They won't.