So have any of you guys who live in the mid west or plains states ever had any issues with crop dusting drift at your rural homes?
What do they spray? Is it roundup or pesticides or both?
I don't think glosphate / Roundup is legal air applied.
Depends on the area I would think. Here they spray anything. What are your concerns about. They are liable if they harm or kill anything not supposed to be sprayed. I had one kill about 40 acres of canola because of wind drift but I was compensated for the loss. No biggie. Edk
Happens all the time.
Log details, times and losses if you want to recover them.
I thought this was about another type of crop dusting, and was going to answer:
A lump.
The crop dusting companies must have insurance and the risk of drift is rolled into the costs.
My concerns are human and animal health. I'm looking at a rural place in ND and had not thought about the crop dusting issues that may come with living their.
I live in ND and farmed here till I retired. I do not and have not worried about health issues from spraying. The only spray I worried about was when spraying for grasshoppers. I only had to do that twice in 25 years and was very careful as are all sprayers.
If you are an eco nut and believe all the bs spread about standard farming practices please locate to a city and leave the rural folks alone. Edk
Do not trust that a applicator or the chemical companies will make it right if they spray you out.
I live in ND and farmed here till I retired. I do not and have not worried about health issues from spraying. The only spray I worried about was when spraying for grasshoppers. I only had to do that twice in 25 years and was very careful as are all sprayers.
If you are an eco nut and believe all the bs spread about standard farming practices please locate to a city and leave the rural folks alone. Edk
I'm not an eco nut. I'm also not stupid.
Organic chemicals have results else farmers would not use them. A stupid person does not take the time to understand their consequences.
I have a friend, 77 lives in Wenden AZ been cropdusting since he was 19, independent operator, handling his own chemicals too, most of the time. In very good health. Just retired a year ago. Makes me wonder if these chemicals are as dangerous as we think. Also his wife, a smoker, age 72, in the days before GPS was his flag lady for years. I hear your concerns, but I think govt regulators have always erred on the side of caution.
I wouldn't have my house or yard right next to an intensive ag operation.
Most of the dangers come from misuse, not proper use. DDT is a prime example
I have a friend, 77 lives in Wenden AZ been cropdusting since he was 19, independent operator, handling his own chemicals too, most of the time. In very good health. Just retired a year ago. Makes me wonder if these chemicals are as dangerous as we think. Also his wife, a smoker, age 72, in the days before GPS was his flag lady for years. I hear your concerns, but I think govt regulators have always erred on the side of caution.
Fair point. We live in an overly protective society for sure. I also think their are groups who over play the dangers for their own political gain.
I crop dusted the hallway at home. My wife sprayed Lysol I think. It seemed to take care of it.
Old Hat. I was not implying anything about you. Nothing wrong with caution but after spraying for my whole life and all the people I know doing the same the claims of some lawyers is rediculous.
This reminds me of the people who won’t eat anything that has been fed an antibiotic. But as soon a they or their kids get a little sniffle it’s to the doctor they go and get stuck in the ass with an ANTIBIOTIC.
Common sense goes a long ways. Ed k
Had the boll weevil folks fly over our fish pond.
Also had one duster have his spotter on the ground to get off of my property.
They paid for the damage and when pressed to land his plane on the road by the place and come tell me to my face to get off of my place.
He declined.
When told of that he lost his contract to spray for them.
I thought this was about another type of crop dusting, and was going to answer:
I was rather hoping this thread might bring RobP back ‘round again. Man, he made me laugh.
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I don't think glosphate / Roundup is legal air applied.
Label says for air application! Any applicator, whether ground or aerial, if ethical business people are going to do everything they can to not have a 'drift claim'! Many jobs over forty years I refused to do as there was just no way to prevent a drift claim! Insurance rates are high enough without having drift claims!!
The first time I ever witnessed a crop dusting operation, I was in the mountains of Co. One early morning I heard what sounded like a WWII era plane dive bombing. It was a beautiful morning in the high country. On the horizon a quarter mile to the west, I saw a beautiful , yellow, looked like a P-51 or similar spraying for mosquitoes at the Grand Lake Metro Rec district. That pilot has some serious cajones! Pa used to talk of the crop dusters from his youth when he and grandpa farmed in Eastern Colorado. Wind drift would drive me nuts as a pilot!
Old Hat. I was not implying anything about you. Nothing wrong with caution but after spraying for my whole life and all the people I know doing the same the claims of some lawyers is rediculous.
This reminds me of the people who won’t eat anything that has been fed an antibiotic. But as soon a they or their kids get a little sniffle it’s to the doctor they go and get stuck in the ass with an ANTIBIOTIC.
Common sense goes a long ways. Ed k
Yeah...but they aren't eating their kids!
Spray both insecticides and broadleaf herbicides in this region. In some instances substituted urea for annual grass control. Not aware of any aerial glyphosate use. Go to western Oregon and one could spray a community with distilled water and be sued for all the nine eyed babies born in the subsequent months.
As said it depends. Most grains just get herbicides unless they're having a really bad grasshopper year. Potatoes can get sprayed for potato bugs. Sugar beets just get herbicides. Hay doesn't generally get sprayed. Pasture can get herbicides but not very often.
Old Hat. I was not implying anything about you. Nothing wrong with caution but after spraying for my whole life and all the people I know doing the same the claims of some lawyers is rediculous.
This reminds me of the people who won’t eat anything that has been fed an antibiotic. But as soon a they or their kids get a little sniffle it’s to the doctor they go and get stuck in the ass with an ANTIBIOTIC.
Common sense goes a long ways. Ed k
Thanks for the viewpoint. Make sense.
Lawyers will be lawyers. When you make money off of fear you need to make sure it's maximized.
Spray both insecticides and broadleaf herbicides in this region. In some instances substituted urea for annual grass control. Not aware of any aerial glyphosate use. Go to western Oregon and one could spray a community with distilled water and be sued for all the nine eyed babies born in the subsequent months.
And when they grow up they move to Portland.
As said it depends. Most grains just get herbicides unless they're having a really bad grasshopper year. Potatoes can get sprayed for potato bugs. Sugar beets just get herbicides. Hay doesn't generally get sprayed. Pasture can get herbicides but not very often.
What about Soybeans?
Im not in the midwest but there is plenty of aerial applicators around here..... if your concern is a recent issue, it wasnt a chemical, it was seeding cover crop.... at least around there thats what they are currently doing.
Ive never had over spray issues with them at the house or on the farms.
They will spray pesticides, fertilizers, herbicides, and seeds.
As said it depends. Most grains just get herbicides unless they're having a really bad grasshopper year. Potatoes can get sprayed for potato bugs. Sugar beets just get herbicides. Hay doesn't generally get sprayed. Pasture can get herbicides but not very often.
What about Soybeans?
They're mostly getting herbicides. Roundup ready strains would get glyphosate. It's been a good 30years since I had anything to do with it. Back then we'd do a residual pre emergent for grasses then maybe do a contact herbicide for broadleafs if we had to. The pre emergent was always sprayed from the ground and everything else usually was. Aircraft are expensive.
I crop dusted the hallway at home. My wife sprayed Lysol I think. It seemed to take care of it.
Ha you beat me to it; I like to do that at the grocery store myself.
For those that do not know about glyphosate is unlike most chemicals kill on contact. Once it hits its target or the ground there is no residual. It cannot be put on to suppress later weeds. I like this fact. In active form it cannot wash down stream or anywhere and become active. Edk
I wouldn't have my house or yard right next to an intensive ag operation.
I do, and I wouldn’t trade it...
This was last week. That’s the Good Year blimp in the background.
I wouldn't have my house or yard right next to an intensive ag operation.
I do, and I wouldn’t trade it...
This was last week. That’s the Good Year blimp in the background.
Looks like the duster was dropping a bomb!
I have spent 40+ years as a ground applicator, We use a helicopter service for any arial application these days. Most air applications in midwest corn and soybeans is for plant diseases, ie Fungicides. I use all labeled precautions on all applications,I have never been sickened or endangered anyone in all those years. Very few times have we had to compensate for drift,Most applicators are very carefull as We live in this world also. Most complaints and problems are because someone goes off half cocked with partial information.
Sharting instead of dusting is a real concern.
I wouldn't have my house or yard right next to an intensive ag operation.
I do, and I wouldn’t trade it...
This was last week. That’s the Good Year blimp in the background.
Looks like the duster was dropping a bomb!
On the neighbors farm LOL