But what puzzles me is very little if any hard evidence. As one of the more Conservative members of this forum it bothers me that a small bit of the media is disputing the results but, showing charts, showing numbers, showing word of mouth accounts, but as of yet no hard evidence has been presented. I certainly hope the case is that evidence is being withheld until this thing plays out in court... but I feel that if something substantial is not released soon, it will never get to court. Judges want to see hard evidence rather than what we've been hearing from various sources each day. I like to check the Newsmax broadcast every evening as it makes me feel better about this bullshit election but I'm beginning to have doubts. Tired of smoke and mirrors for the most part!
But what puzzles me is very little if any hard evidence. As one of the more Conservative members of this forum it bothers me that a small bit of the media is disputing the results but, showing charts, showing numbers, showing word of mouth accounts, but as of yet no hard evidence has been presented. I certainly hope the case is that evidence is being withheld until this thing plays out in court... but I feel that if something substantial is not released soon, it will never get to court. Judges want to see hard evidence rather than what we've been hearing from various sources each day. I like to check the Newsmax broadcast every evening as it makes me feel better about this bullshit election but I'm beginning to have doubts. Tired of smoke and mirrors for the most part!
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..............Takes time to gather solid evidence of election fraud and from there make all of the affidavits, legal briefs, file the lawsuits etc and etc. Oh and this will all get to the courts including the SCOTUS. Only been 7 days or less if you include business days since the election. Evidence gathering in all of these states is not an overnight thing or done in a week or two.
There is hard solid evidence of election fraud all over the damn place. 234 sworn affidavits were submitted yesterday and hundreds more on the way.
They havent got a chance to see the ballots yet in the contested states to comb through them for fraud if the data is still their to find it. I doubt anyone had a chance to look at the voting machines code/ logs yet either to check for fraud. They have video evidence of the pollsters not being able to closely monitor the ballots as they were counted so that's a pretty solid case...
Who knows what all evidence they have yet? Giuliani was showing pics of ballots being dropped off at a polling place that looked like they weren't packaged properly in an official security box.
They find evidence the voting machines changed votes or added fraudulent counts, this thing will take off fast. Likewise, if they get the SCOTUS to throw out votes counted when Repub pollsters couldnt monitor the ballots.
There is no evidence, just rantings by the lunatic fringe. On the bright side, statistically we've only got an election cycle or two to deal with these idiots, "and like magic, they'll be gone."
What makes the OP think they are going to show the evidence anywhere but in court. The cold hard fact of the matter is that until the states certify the election, which none have, there is no reason to show evidence. Only upon the attempt to certify it will it be challenged in the courts and then evidence will be presented to the court.
If the GOP brought forth any evidence right now the DNC would simply circle the wagons or falsify even more records/documents. Never tip your hand. This is a poker game and you never show what you are holding until the final bets are made.
There is no evidence, just rantings by the lunatic fringe. On the bright side, statistically we've only got an election cycle or two to deal with these idiots, "and like magic, they'll be gone."
This major event took place just days ago.In some states they're still counting.
They planned this for years.
How much time do you think we deserve to find the answers to ever so obvious irregularities?
Keep in mind the offending States have all of the evidence in THEIR basements. Every day that goes by more evidence is munched in their super munchers that leave noting but sawdust behind. They are no longer afraid of court orders. They mean noting anymore becuase complicit judges will let the offenders get by with it. Like sporting said, they have been planning this for years and have put everything in place needed to pull it off.
Id say more people voting in Wi and Mi than they have registered voters might be a clue.
Not sure I believe that or not... Would be an automatic reason to nullify the vote if true and factual and provable and would have been known for sure by now.
There is no evidence, just rantings by the lunatic fringe. On the bright side, statistically we've only got an election cycle or two to deal with these idiots, "and like magic, they'll be gone."
What makes the OP think they are going to show the evidence anywhere but in court. The cold hard fact of the matter is that until the states certify the election, which none have, there is no reason to show evidence. Only upon the attempt to certify it will it be challenged in the courts and then evidence will be presented to the court.
If the GOP brought forth any evidence right now the DNC would simply circle the wagons or falsify even more records/documents. Never tip your hand. This is a poker game and you never show what you are holding until the final bets are made.
What makes the OP think they are going to show the evidence anywhere but in court. The cold hard fact of the matter is that until the states certify the election, which none have, there is no reason to show evidence. Only upon the attempt to certify it will it be challenged in the courts and then evidence will be presented to the court.
If the GOP brought forth any evidence right now the DNC would simply circle the wagons or falsify even more records/documents. Never tip your hand. This is a poker game and you never show what you are holding until the final bets are made.
Sounds reasonable. My media source has all but dried up but the only one I really listen to has no shortage of accusations. Am afraid to find out just how much of that is true or not true.
Once illegitimate ballots are mixed with legitimate ballots, and that was done in the early hours of 11-4-2020, unless they are in fact watermarked, will be very difficult to dispute. A recount will do no good if recounting the fraudulent ballots as they weren't kept separates as Justice ordered. I hope there is evidence of that happening even though we know it did or the Trump landslide everyone said would happen will be stolen.
Ongoing criminal investigations and evidence pertinent to same are not shared with the public. Evidence gathered on behalf of a grand jury investigation is even more closely guarded...by law.
Evidence in pending civil actions? The plaintiff is insane if they leak any of it before it comes before the court.
1. The Dominion voting software in AT LEAST Georgia and Pennsylvania, mysteriously flipped anywhere from 12-15k votes in a software "glitch". Somehow, even though it's mathematically impossible, 100% of those thousands of votes flipped from Trump to Biden. Not a single Biden vote flipped to Trump. This is not a rumor or conspiracy. Actual voting officials in those states have acknowledged the problem and reported it. How many of the other 100s of counties out there that used that software had a similar event?
2. Dozens of eye witness testimony has been collected in sworn, legal, written affidavits. Some of those people are Democrat election staff. They may have wanted Biden to win, but surprisingly, they were disgusted by their own party and their own ethics compelled them to come forward despite threats on their lives and the lives of their families. These people have nothing to gain and everything to lose.
3. Multiple postal workers have given testimony that their supervisors ordered them, against federal law, to illegally back date thousands of ballots that came in after the deadline, so they could be counted as legal votes.
4. Thousands of dead people voted. Thousands of non residents voted. Thousands of non citizens voted. ALL FUGGIN DEMOCRATS!!!
5 Some counties counted more votes than they have actual registered voters.
Sorry Geo for being blunt. Not trying to be disrespectful at all, but lots of these scenarios have been discussed in multiple threads. So the question is how much evidence is enough?
I kinda doubt that trotting the evidence in public is their biggest priority. Why give known corrupt people a heads up on what they need to destroy?
PA has very specific evidence in that they circumvented the Constitution and state law by suing in front of elected Democrat judges to change voting practices. They then violated even those. This will go to SCOTUS.
But what puzzles me is very little if any hard evidence. As one of the more Conservative members of this forum it bothers me that a small bit of the media is disputing the results but, showing charts, showing numbers, showing word of mouth accounts, but as of yet no hard evidence has been presented. I certainly hope the case is that evidence is being withheld until this thing plays out in court... but I feel that if something substantial is not released soon, it will never get to court. Judges want to see hard evidence rather than what we've been hearing from various sources each day. I like to check the Newsmax broadcast every evening as it makes me feel better about this bullshit election but I'm beginning to have doubts. Tired of smoke and mirrors for the most part!
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Stop expecting the criminals in the media to start admitting that there is ample evidence everywhere of crimes in which they are complicit. Use your brain.
In another article Newt is saying GOP officials were not allowed to be present, NR states that is "demonstrably false". Ga GOP governor and GOP state secretary both say there is no evidence of fraud in their state.
Truth be known, I don't trust many of the sources. Not sowing doubt.. just looking at it as a factual realist. Hell I hope you are right but history isn't on your side.
I kinda doubt that trotting the evidence in public is their biggest priority. Why give known corrupt people a heads up on what they need to destroy?
Good point.
Its in the best nature for the democracy, and the judge in AZ today agreed... while stating “ the public has a right to know how flimsy [the] Plaintiffs’ evidence actually is.” Thats a direct quote from her mouth!
In another article Newt is saying GOP officials were not allowed to be present, NR states that is "demonstrably false". Ga GOP governor and GOP state secretary both say there is no evidence of fraud in their state.
I kinda doubt that trotting the evidence in public is their biggest priority. Why give known corrupt people a heads up on what they need to destroy?
Good point.
Its in the best nature for the democracy, and the judge in AZ today agreed... while stating “ the public has a right to know how flimsy [the] Plaintiffs’ evidence actually is.” her mouth!
What proof do you have "Thats a direct quote" from this judge?
I think in about 10 min the gal who worked for Dominion vote systems will be coming up on Lou Dobbs. Im in CST though. It may be an hour later for you.
I've no doubt that some of what I read from various places even though it would be nice if true, is made up.
That said to expect what evidence they have to be proven publicly is NUTS. That will and only should be done in a court. Boom. If you have it you hold it. Why put it out early for the libs to be able to hack a defense? That would be stupid.
What worries me a bit is my mother when I took her to the dr this morning said she had heard Trump has said he will run again in 2024. I simply don't think he is stupid enough to say that. If he did, I'd say he is convinced right or wrong he will never win this go round.
Regardless I sure hope it turns out like it did for the inventor of the internet.
I kinda doubt that trotting the evidence in public is their biggest priority. Why give known corrupt people a heads up on what they need to destroy?
Good point.
Its in the best nature for the democracy, and the judge in AZ today agreed... while stating “ the public has a right to know how flimsy [the] Plaintiffs’ evidence actually is.” her mouth!
What proof do you have "Thats a direct quote" from this judge?
I think Ejit means it's not in the best interest of the Republic.(for which it stands).
But what puzzles me is very little if any hard evidence. As one of the more Conservative members of this forum it bothers me that a small bit of the media is disputing the results but, showing charts, showing numbers, showing word of mouth accounts, but as of yet no hard evidence has been presented. I certainly hope the case is that evidence is being withheld until this thing plays out in court... but I feel that if something substantial is not released soon, it will never get to court. Judges want to see hard evidence rather than what we've been hearing from various sources each day. I like to check the Newsmax broadcast every evening as it makes me feel better about this bullshit election but I'm beginning to have doubts. Tired of smoke and mirrors for the most part!
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Why would they tip their hand? DO you think the people they are questioning are not trying to CYA?
I kinda doubt that trotting the evidence in public is their biggest priority. Why give known corrupt people a heads up on what they need to destroy?
Good point.
Its in the best nature for the democracy, and the judge in AZ today agreed... while stating “ the public has a right to know how flimsy [the] Plaintiffs’ evidence actually is.” her mouth!
What proof do you have "Thats a direct quote" from this judge?
I kinda doubt that trotting the evidence in public is their biggest priority. Why give known corrupt people a heads up on what they need to destroy?
Good point.
Its in the best nature for the democracy, and the judge in AZ today agreed... while stating “ the public has a right to know how flimsy [the] Plaintiffs’ evidence actually is.” Thats a direct quote from her mouth!
Hey Chount, can you give us that Russia evidence again? GFY
I kinda doubt that trotting the evidence in public is their biggest priority. Why give known corrupt people a heads up on what they need to destroy?
Good point.
Its in the best nature for the democracy, and the judge in AZ today agreed... while stating “ the public has a right to know how flimsy [the] Plaintiffs’ evidence actually is.” Thats a direct quote from her mouth!
Hey Chount, can you give us that Russia evidence again? GFY
Hahaha. Tff. He's sheckin his mail every day for evidence Schietfy said wuz on its way.
But what puzzles me is very little if any hard evidence. As one of the more Conservative members of this forum it bothers me that a small bit of the media is disputing the results but, showing charts, showing numbers, showing word of mouth accounts, but as of yet no hard evidence has been presented. I certainly hope the case is that evidence is being withheld until this thing plays out in court... but I feel that if something substantial is not released soon, it will never get to court. Judges want to see hard evidence rather than what we've been hearing from various sources each day. I like to check the Newsmax broadcast every evening as it makes me feel better about this bullshit election but I'm beginning to have doubts. Tired of smoke and mirrors for the most part!
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Why would they tip their hand? DO you think the people they are questioning are not trying to CYA?
So Rudy Giuliani is a loose cannon every time he opens his mouth? Is he lying or tipping his (our) hand? I don't expect the evidence to be disclosed but I don't expect to lied to either and for a time every conservative broadcast was reporting that kinda crap over and over. Silence is golden around the house now.
“It's like dealing with a lunatic on the subway. Everyone just kind of sits and stares ahead, pretends they can't hear him, and waits for him to eventually get off. ” — GOP source close to the administration
But what puzzles me is very little if any hard evidence. As one of the more Conservative members of this forum it bothers me that a small bit of the media is disputing the results but, showing charts, showing numbers, showing word of mouth accounts, but as of yet no hard evidence has been presented. I certainly hope the case is that evidence is being withheld until this thing plays out in court... but I feel that if something substantial is not released soon, it will never get to court. Judges want to see hard evidence rather than what we've been hearing from various sources each day. I like to check the Newsmax broadcast every evening as it makes me feel better about this bullshit election but I'm beginning to have doubts. Tired of smoke and mirrors for the most part!
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..............Takes time to gather solid evidence of election fraud and from there make all of the affidavits, legal briefs, file the lawsuits etc and etc. Oh and this will all get to the courts including the SCOTUS. Only been 7 days or less if you include business days since the election. Evidence gathering in all of these states is not an overnight thing or done in a week or two.
There is hard solid evidence of election fraud all over the damn place. 234 sworn affidavits were submitted yesterday and hundreds more on the way.
Obviously we don't have all the info that may be available, but the courts, any of them, will only deal in hard, factual, actionable evidence.
And so far there's lots of smoke but no fire...............yet.
I hope we get action on both fronts, but the courts will need a LOOOOOOT of hard evidence on a large enough scale to impact a given state vote to be meaningful.
So, in my mind right now, I wouldn't bet the farm on a major win in the courts.........yet.
“If you’re weak on the facts and strong on the law, pound the law. If you’re weak on the law and strong on the facts, pound the facts. If you’re weak on both, pound the table.”
“It's like dealing with a lunatic on the subway. Everyone just kind of sits and stares ahead, pretends they can't hear him, and waits for him to eventually get off. ” — GOP source close to the administration
Another anonymous source.
I have anonymous source that said you "tuck", tape, and dress up like an ugly chick so you can go blow disgusting fat guys, then finger your [bleep] while reliving it later.
They will if they force the bolshevik run states to do a recount with Trump lawyers observing. An honest recount will put it to bed once and for all.
How do they separate all the illegal and extra made up votes from the count? That is what worries me. You can bet the dems have somehow covered their tracks.
But what puzzles me is very little if any hard evidence. As one of the more Conservative members of this forum it bothers me that a small bit of the media is disputing the results but, showing charts, showing numbers, showing word of mouth accounts, but as of yet no hard evidence has been presented. I certainly hope the case is that evidence is being withheld until this thing plays out in court... but I feel that if something substantial is not released soon, it will never get to court. Judges want to see hard evidence rather than what we've been hearing from various sources each day. I like to check the Newsmax broadcast every evening as it makes me feel better about this bullshit election but I'm beginning to have doubts. Tired of smoke and mirrors for the most part!
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You need to find different sources of information that isn't tainted by the Propaganda Corps.
But what puzzles me is very little if any hard evidence. As one of the more Conservative members of this forum it bothers me that a small bit of the media is disputing the results but, showing charts, showing numbers, showing word of mouth accounts, but as of yet no hard evidence has been presented. I certainly hope the case is that evidence is being withheld until this thing plays out in court... but I feel that if something substantial is not released soon, it will never get to court. Judges want to see hard evidence rather than what we've been hearing from various sources each day. I like to check the Newsmax broadcast every evening as it makes me feel better about this bullshit election but I'm beginning to have doubts. Tired of smoke and mirrors for the most part!
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Well you have a normal functioning brain, WHy don't you tell us the voice in your head. What does it tell you?
Such short memories. In 2016 it was a different story. Trump is a master at sowing doubt. It’s one thing to vote the party line, voting because a specific issue affects you but look hard at who is doing the talking. Doth protest too loudly. The first thing i hear out of a person s mouth is we are heading towards socialist with the democrats. Bernies introduced 383 bills and three were passed. Two for renaming post offices and a third to increase payments to disabled VETS. Peal the onion back and dig deep. And the rhetoric continues. I’m a independent and have voted Republican in most cases. I didn’t like him in 2016 and less now. And BTW, my father a WWW II vet is one of the losers, captured on the Rhine in Seesenheim France during the Battle of the Bulge, spent 3 months in Bergen Belsen which was liberated by the Brits and Patton’s Army and then spent 1948-1952 in a hospital with TB, had one lung removed. Doctors said he would never see 50, Made it to 48. And the VA hospitals were his only hospital. Never forgot in 1968 he was dismayed by the limbless vets at the Newington VA, I sure it was deja vu as a combat vet and machine gunner during the war. But again he was a loser according to our President
How many of you VETs on the fire have family members that are losers? Or that doesn’t bother you. It bothered the hell out of me.
DIG deep on your own if you want to know more about people on both sides of the isle, don’t rely on FOX, CNN or other outlets.
Such short memories. In 2016 it was a different story. Trump is a master at sowing doubt. It’s one thing to vote the party line, voting because a specific issue affects you but look hard at who is doing the talking. Doth protest too loudly. The first thing i hear out of a person s mouth is we are heading towards socialist with the democrats. Bernies introduced 383 bills and three were passed. Two for renaming post offices and a third to increase payments to disabled VETS. Peal the onion back and dig deep. And the rhetoric continues. I’m a independent and have voted Republican in most cases. I didn’t like him in 2016 and less now. And BTW, my father a WWW II vet is one of the losers, captured on the Rhine in Seesenheim France during the Battle of the Bulge, spent 3 months in Bergen Belsen which was liberated by the Brits and Patton’s Army and then spent 1948-1952 in a hospital with TB, had one lung removed. Doctors said he would never see 50, Made it to 48. And the VA hospitals were his only hospital. Never forgot in 1968 he was dismayed by the limbless vets at the Newington VA, I sure it was deja vu as a combat vet and machine gunner during the war. But again he was a loser according to our President
How many of you VETs on the fire have family members that are losers? Or that doesn’t bother you. It bothered the hell out of me.
DIG deep on your own if you want to know more about people on both sides of the isle, don’t rely on FOX, CNN or other outlets.
Anytime a poster attempts to justify their post by claiming “I’m a Republican But,” AND “my family is military or LE, But”, it’s a clear indication they are full of schit.
Such short memories. In 2016 it was a different story. Trump is a master at sowing doubt. It’s one thing to vote the party line, voting because a specific issue affects you but look hard at who is doing the talking. Doth protest too loudly. The first thing i hear out of a person s mouth is we are heading towards socialist with the democrats. Bernies introduced 383 bills and three were passed. Two for renaming post offices and a third to increase payments to disabled VETS. Peal the onion back and dig deep. And the rhetoric continues. I’m a independent and have voted Republican in most cases. I didn’t like him in 2016 and less now. And BTW, my father a WWW II vet is one of the losers, captured on the Rhine in Seesenheim France during the Battle of the Bulge, spent 3 months in Bergen Belsen which was liberated by the Brits and Patton’s Army and then spent 1948-1952 in a hospital with TB, had one lung removed. Doctors said he would never see 50, Made it to 48. And the VA hospitals were his only hospital. Never forgot in 1968 he was dismayed by the limbless vets at the Newington VA, I sure it was deja vu as a combat vet and machine gunner during the war. But again he was a loser according to our President
How many of you VETs on the fire have family members that are losers? Or that doesn’t bother you. It bothered the hell out of me.
DIG deep on your own if you want to know more about people on both sides of the isle, don’t rely on FOX, CNN or other outlets.
Trump has a lot of warts and some of the things he said should not have been said. If you believe Biden will last 2 years as Prez and that his cabinet has the best interests of American when they do take over then you are sadly sadly mistaken. We are in the midst of a Global Reset.
Such short memories. In 2016 it was a different story. Trump is a master at sowing doubt. It’s one thing to vote the party line, voting because a specific issue affects you but look hard at who is doing the talking. Doth protest too loudly. The first thing i hear out of a person s mouth is we are heading towards socialist with the democrats. Bernies introduced 383 bills and three were passed. Two for renaming post offices and a third to increase payments to disabled VETS. Peal the onion back and dig deep. And the rhetoric continues. I’m a independent and have voted Republican in most cases. I didn’t like him in 2016 and less now. And BTW, my father a WWW II vet is one of the losers, captured on the Rhine in Seesenheim France during the Battle of the Bulge, spent 3 months in Bergen Belsen which was liberated by the Brits and Patton’s Army and then spent 1948-1952 in a hospital with TB, had one lung removed. Doctors said he would never see 50, Made it to 48. And the VA hospitals were his only hospital. Never forgot in 1968 he was dismayed by the limbless vets at the Newington VA, I sure it was deja vu as a combat vet and machine gunner during the war. But again he was a loser according to our President
How many of you VETs on the fire have family members that are losers? Or that doesn’t bother you. It bothered the hell out of me.
DIG deep on your own if you want to know more about people on both sides of the isle, don’t rely on FOX, CNN or other outlets.
Anytime a poster attempts to justify their post by claiming “I’m a Republican But,” AND “my family is military or LE, But”, it’s a clear indication they are full of schit.
HE is from the black hole known as CT which used to be decent state but swallowed the blue pill .
Such short memories. In 2016 it was a different story. Trump is a master at sowing doubt. It’s one thing to vote the party line, voting because a specific issue affects you but look hard at who is doing the talking. Doth protest too loudly. The first thing i hear out of a person s mouth is we are heading towards socialist with the democrats. Bernies introduced 383 bills and three were passed. Two for renaming post offices and a third to increase payments to disabled VETS. Peal the onion back and dig deep. And the rhetoric continues. I’m a independent and have voted Republican in most cases. I didn’t like him in 2016 and less now. And BTW, my father a WWW II vet is one of the losers, captured on the Rhine in Seesenheim France during the Battle of the Bulge, spent 3 months in Bergen Belsen which was liberated by the Brits and Patton’s Army and then spent 1948-1952 in a hospital with TB, had one lung removed. Doctors said he would never see 50, Made it to 48. And the VA hospitals were his only hospital. Never forgot in 1968 he was dismayed by the limbless vets at the Newington VA, I sure it was deja vu as a combat vet and machine gunner during the war. But again he was a loser according to our President
How many of you VETs on the fire have family members that are losers? Or that doesn’t bother you. It bothered the hell out of me.
DIG deep on your own if you want to know more about people on both sides of the isle, don’t rely on FOX, CNN or other outlets.
I'm sorry Trump hurt your wittle itty bitty feewlings. You're right, we should vote for the party of BLM, social unrest, massive taxes, corruptions, etc... etc... etc because Trump is a meany.
There is some sworn testimony. That counts as evidence. There are videos. That counts as evidence. There have already been some arrests based on evidence. https://www.star-telegram.com/news/nation-world/national/article247027917.html You aren't going to see any of this on the mainstream media. It's another uncomfortable truth they don't want exposed.
Which of his policies do you feel like had the most negative impact on you?
By the way, he NEVER referred to them as losers. That was yet another media lie. When they can cite "anonymous sources" they can get away with anything. If you believe he thinks they are losers and suckers, why do you think he did so much for them. You mentioned the VA. It was Trump who made it possible for veterans to get care where the rest of us do.
Such short memories. In 2016 it was a different story. Trump is a master at sowing doubt. It’s one thing to vote the party line, voting because a specific issue affects you but look hard at who is doing the talking. Doth protest too loudly. The first thing i hear out of a person s mouth is we are heading towards socialist with the democrats. Bernies introduced 383 bills and three were passed. Two for renaming post offices and a third to increase payments to disabled VETS. Peal the onion back and dig deep. And the rhetoric continues. I’m a independent and have voted Republican in most cases. I didn’t like him in 2016 and less now. And BTW, my father a WWW II vet is one of the losers, captured on the Rhine in Seesenheim France during the Battle of the Bulge, spent 3 months in Bergen Belsen which was liberated by the Brits and Patton’s Army and then spent 1948-1952 in a hospital with TB, had one lung removed. Doctors said he would never see 50, Made it to 48. And the VA hospitals were his only hospital. Never forgot in 1968 he was dismayed by the limbless vets at the Newington VA, I sure it was deja vu as a combat vet and machine gunner during the war. But again he was a loser according to our President
How many of you VETs on the fire have family members that are losers? Or that doesn’t bother you. It bothered the hell out of me.
DIG deep on your own if you want to know more about people on both sides of the isle, don’t rely on FOX, CNN or other outlets.
He never called them losers. Please get your face out of cnn. Don't be a dumby drinking from the trough of fake news.
BTW- my Dad was in a Sherman with Patton and was one of the first to roll over the fences at Dachau.
Republican elections lawyer Ben Ginsberg "What you are also seeing today in court is ... affidavits that don't even challenge votes, but that challenge the process, are really getting derided by judges around the country," said Ginsberg.
Pointing to legal battles in Pennsylvania, Arizona, and Michigan, Ginsburg, there have been a few "bad court days" for the Trump campaign.
"More and more, this is looking like a losing effort and that brand is eventually gonna stick to the President," he said.
They havent got a chance to see the ballots yet in the contested states to comb through them for fraud if the data is still their to find it. I doubt anyone had a chance to look at the voting machines code/ logs yet either to check for fraud. They have video evidence of the pollsters not being able to closely monitor the ballots as they were counted so that's a pretty solid case...
Who knows what all evidence they have yet? Giuliani was showing pics of ballots being dropped off at a polling place that looked like they weren't packaged properly in an official security box.
They find evidence the voting machines changed votes or added fraudulent counts, this thing will take off fast. Likewise, if they get the SCOTUS to throw out votes counted when Repub pollsters couldnt monitor the ballots.
This has become the land that Epstein killed himself, Hillary didn’t mean ill intent for wiping her servers & Hunter Biden is the comeback kid. You guys really hoping there will be evidence to prove fraud ? Good luck w that.
Such short memories. In 2016 it was a different story. Trump is a master at sowing doubt. It’s one thing to vote the party line, voting because a specific issue affects you but look hard at who is doing the talking. Doth protest too loudly. The first thing i hear out of a person s mouth is we are heading towards socialist with the democrats. Bernies introduced 383 bills and three were passed. Two for renaming post offices and a third to increase payments to disabled VETS. Peal the onion back and dig deep. And the rhetoric continues. I’m a independent and have voted Republican in most cases. I didn’t like him in 2016 and less now. And BTW, my father a WWW II vet is one of the losers, captured on the Rhine in Seesenheim France during the Battle of the Bulge, spent 3 months in Bergen Belsen which was liberated by the Brits and Patton’s Army and then spent 1948-1952 in a hospital with TB, had one lung removed. Doctors said he would never see 50, Made it to 48. And the VA hospitals were his only hospital. Never forgot in 1968 he was dismayed by the limbless vets at the Newington VA, I sure it was deja vu as a combat vet and machine gunner during the war. But again he was a loser according to our President
How many of you VETs on the fire have family members that are losers? Or that doesn’t bother you. It bothered the hell out of me.
DIG deep on your own if you want to know more about people on both sides of the isle, don’t rely on FOX, CNN or other outlets.
As I said I voted Republican far more than democrat. Just couldn’t vote for this guy.
Sounds like you have no principles other than how someone affects your feewlings.
It's called democracy. Not everyone agrees with you. And yes, they may include principles in their decision.
And the only principle your sorry @ss subscribes too is the principle that gets you free stuff... you low information, low critical thought, low work ethic democrat voting mongoloid.
Such short memories. In 2016 it was a different story. Trump is a master at sowing doubt. It’s one thing to vote the party line, voting because a specific issue affects you but look hard at who is doing the talking. Doth protest too loudly. The first thing i hear out of a person s mouth is we are heading towards socialist with the democrats. Bernies introduced 383 bills and three were passed. Two for renaming post offices and a third to increase payments to disabled VETS. Peal the onion back and dig deep. And the rhetoric continues. I’m a independent and have voted Republican in most cases. I didn’t like him in 2016 and less now. And BTW, my father a WWW II vet is one of the losers, captured on the Rhine in Seesenheim France during the Battle of the Bulge, spent 3 months in Bergen Belsen which was liberated by the Brits and Patton’s Army and then spent 1948-1952 in a hospital with TB, had one lung removed. Doctors said he would never see 50, Made it to 48. And the VA hospitals were his only hospital. Never forgot in 1968 he was dismayed by the limbless vets at the Newington VA, I sure it was deja vu as a combat vet and machine gunner during the war. But again he was a loser according to our President
How many of you VETs on the fire have family members that are losers? Or that doesn’t bother you. It bothered the hell out of me.
DIG deep on your own if you want to know more about people on both sides of the isle, don’t rely on FOX, CNN or other outlets.
Trump never said that so take your own advice and quit believing what you hear...you have to be the most gullible moron possible to believe Trump said that!
Such short memories. In 2016 it was a different story. Trump is a master at sowing doubt. It’s one thing to vote the party line, voting because a specific issue affects you but look hard at who is doing the talking. Doth protest too loudly. The first thing i hear out of a person s mouth is we are heading towards socialist with the democrats. Bernies introduced 383 bills and three were passed. Two for renaming post offices and a third to increase payments to disabled VETS. Peal the onion back and dig deep. And the rhetoric continues. I’m a independent and have voted Republican in most cases. I didn’t like him in 2016 and less now. And BTW, my father a WWW II vet is one of the losers, captured on the Rhine in Seesenheim France during the Battle of the Bulge, spent 3 months in Bergen Belsen which was liberated by the Brits and Patton’s Army and then spent 1948-1952 in a hospital with TB, had one lung removed. Doctors said he would never see 50, Made it to 48. And the VA hospitals were his only hospital. Never forgot in 1968 he was dismayed by the limbless vets at the Newington VA, I sure it was deja vu as a combat vet and machine gunner during the war. But again he was a loser according to our President
How many of you VETs on the fire have family members that are losers? Or that doesn’t bother you. It bothered the hell out of me.
DIG deep on your own if you want to know more about people on both sides of the isle, don’t rely on FOX, CNN or other outlets.
No your father is a hero, not a loser!
You however, are without a doubt a major disappointment to your dad and you disrespect him as well as all veterans when you actively support the communists. I’m sure that your political ignorance is a great disappointment to your father and your liberal vote does all veterans a great disservice.
It’s sad that your family went from hero to zero in a single generation. Congrats?
There's not "very little hard evidence", there's TONS of "hard evidence". It'll come out when the DOJ can enter into this, which by law can only be 10days after the election is over.
Was that while you were in the middle of sucking him off, Jim?
It's funny that you think that Karl Rove is now an authority on fair elections, given that he was a pro at rigging them.
You sure have a thing for guys sucking each other off. Did you get a chubby when you wrote that?
You are correct about him being for rigging elections. He wrote the Republican playbook on voter suppression. Mail in ballots tossed that out the door.
There's not "very little hard evidence", there's TONS of "hard evidence". It'll come out when the DOJ can enter into this, which by law can only be 10days after the election is over.
Still waiting on the lawyers to present any in court
There's not "very little hard evidence", there's TONS of "hard evidence". It'll come out when the DOJ can enter into this, which by law can only be 10days after the election is over.
Still waiting on the lawyers to present any in court
Simple question for you[actually anyone]: Exactly how much election 'fraud' are you good with, as a percentage?
Was that while you were in the middle of sucking him off, Jim?
It's funny that you think that Karl Rove is now an authority on fair elections, given that he was a pro at rigging them.
You sure have a thing for guys sucking each other off. Did you get a chubby when you wrote that?
You are correct about him being for rigging elections. He wrote the Republican playbook on voter suppression. Mail in ballots tossed that out the door.
So you know Rove is a scumbag, yet hold him up as an authority we should all heed.
If I were Trump I would push for election reform in all the contested states. Or even a re-vote mandate with poll watchers watching and members of both parties counting by the Supreme Court. I would fight it well beyond Jan 20th to keep the Dems busy with election reform, photo ID's etc. No mail in ballots except by voter ID when picking up the ballots in person. Every state that has mail in ballots is blue and has never had a Republican elected governor or else in a statewide election. One party rule. Easy to cheat with mail in ballots with no proper ID.
