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Originally Posted by GeoW
...So Rudy Giuliani is a loose cannon every time he opens his mouth? Is he lying or tipping his (our) hand?...


Now I see that you are just here to sow distrust and to bad-mouth Trump's team.


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Not at all the reason I posted. Trying to satisfy my curiosity.

I've bad-mouthed no one.


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Originally Posted by GeoW
But what puzzles me is very little if any hard evidence. As one of the more Conservative members of this forum it bothers me that a small bit of the media is disputing the results but, showing charts, showing numbers, showing word of mouth accounts, but as of yet no hard evidence has been presented.
I certainly hope the case is that evidence is being withheld until this thing plays out in court... but I feel that if something substantial is not released soon, it will never get to court.
Judges want to see hard evidence rather than what we've been hearing from various sources each day.
I like to check the Newsmax broadcast every evening as it makes me feel better about this bullshit election but I'm beginning to have doubts.
Tired of smoke and mirrors for the most part!

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You need to find different sources of information that isn't tainted by the Propaganda Corps.











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Originally Posted by GeoW
But what puzzles me is very little if any hard evidence. As one of the more Conservative members of this forum it bothers me that a small bit of the media is disputing the results but, showing charts, showing numbers, showing word of mouth accounts, but as of yet no hard evidence has been presented.
I certainly hope the case is that evidence is being withheld until this thing plays out in court... but I feel that if something substantial is not released soon, it will never get to court.
Judges want to see hard evidence rather than what we've been hearing from various sources each day.
I like to check the Newsmax broadcast every evening as it makes me feel better about this bullshit election but I'm beginning to have doubts.
Tired of smoke and mirrors for the most part!

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Well you have a normal functioning brain, WHy don't you tell us the voice in your head. What does it tell you?

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Originally Posted by keith
Dept of Justice can not get involved for 10 days after the election.

ABC, NBC, CNN, are like watching Cartoons.

Expect a lot of people are going to go to prison.

Welcome to the Banana Republic

If we live in a banana republic AND people will be going to jail, who will be going to jail, Republicans, Trump’s team?


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The "hanging chad" debacle ran 37 days, from Gore\MSM claiming victory
to the Bush Presidency.


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Such short memories. In 2016 it was a different story. Trump is a master at sowing doubt. It’s one thing to vote the party line, voting because a specific issue affects you but look hard at who is doing the talking. Doth protest too loudly. The first thing i hear out of a person s mouth is we are heading towards socialist with the democrats. Bernies introduced 383 bills and three were passed. Two for renaming post offices and a third to increase payments to disabled VETS. Peal the onion back and dig deep. And the rhetoric continues.
I’m a independent and have voted Republican in most cases. I didn’t like him in 2016 and less now.
And BTW, my father a WWW II vet is one of the losers, captured on the Rhine in Seesenheim France during the Battle of the Bulge, spent 3 months in Bergen Belsen which was liberated by the Brits and Patton’s Army and then spent 1948-1952 in a hospital with TB, had one lung removed. Doctors said he would never see 50, Made it to 48. And the VA hospitals were his only hospital. Never forgot in 1968 he was dismayed by the limbless vets at the Newington VA, I sure it was deja vu as a combat vet and machine gunner during the war.
But again he was a loser according to our President

How many of you VETs on the fire have family members that are losers? Or that doesn’t bother you. It bothered the hell out of me.

DIG deep on your own if you want to know more about people on both sides of the isle, don’t rely on FOX, CNN or other outlets.

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Originally Posted by abbydog
Such short memories. In 2016 it was a different story. Trump is a master at sowing doubt. It’s one thing to vote the party line, voting because a specific issue affects you but look hard at who is doing the talking. Doth protest too loudly. The first thing i hear out of a person s mouth is we are heading towards socialist with the democrats. Bernies introduced 383 bills and three were passed. Two for renaming post offices and a third to increase payments to disabled VETS. Peal the onion back and dig deep. And the rhetoric continues.
I’m a independent and have voted Republican in most cases. I didn’t like him in 2016 and less now.
And BTW, my father a WWW II vet is one of the losers, captured on the Rhine in Seesenheim France during the Battle of the Bulge, spent 3 months in Bergen Belsen which was liberated by the Brits and Patton’s Army and then spent 1948-1952 in a hospital with TB, had one lung removed. Doctors said he would never see 50, Made it to 48. And the VA hospitals were his only hospital. Never forgot in 1968 he was dismayed by the limbless vets at the Newington VA, I sure it was deja vu as a combat vet and machine gunner during the war.
But again he was a loser according to our President

How many of you VETs on the fire have family members that are losers? Or that doesn’t bother you. It bothered the hell out of me.

DIG deep on your own if you want to know more about people on both sides of the isle, don’t rely on FOX, CNN or other outlets.

Anytime a poster attempts to justify their post by claiming “I’m a Republican But,” AND “my family is military or LE, But”, it’s a clear indication they are full of schit.


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Originally Posted by abbydog
Such short memories. In 2016 it was a different story. Trump is a master at sowing doubt. It’s one thing to vote the party line, voting because a specific issue affects you but look hard at who is doing the talking. Doth protest too loudly. The first thing i hear out of a person s mouth is we are heading towards socialist with the democrats. Bernies introduced 383 bills and three were passed. Two for renaming post offices and a third to increase payments to disabled VETS. Peal the onion back and dig deep. And the rhetoric continues.
I’m a independent and have voted Republican in most cases. I didn’t like him in 2016 and less now.
And BTW, my father a WWW II vet is one of the losers, captured on the Rhine in Seesenheim France during the Battle of the Bulge, spent 3 months in Bergen Belsen which was liberated by the Brits and Patton’s Army and then spent 1948-1952 in a hospital with TB, had one lung removed. Doctors said he would never see 50, Made it to 48. And the VA hospitals were his only hospital. Never forgot in 1968 he was dismayed by the limbless vets at the Newington VA, I sure it was deja vu as a combat vet and machine gunner during the war.
But again he was a loser according to our President

How many of you VETs on the fire have family members that are losers? Or that doesn’t bother you. It bothered the hell out of me.

DIG deep on your own if you want to know more about people on both sides of the isle, don’t rely on FOX, CNN or other outlets.



Trump has a lot of warts and some of the things he said should not have been said. If you believe Biden will last 2 years as Prez and that his cabinet has the best interests of American when they do take over then you are sadly sadly mistaken. We are in the midst of a Global Reset.

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Originally Posted by abbydog
Such short memories. In 2016 it was a different story. Trump is a master at sowing doubt. It’s one thing to vote the party line, voting because a specific issue affects you but look hard at who is doing the talking. Doth protest too loudly. The first thing i hear out of a person s mouth is we are heading towards socialist with the democrats. Bernies introduced 383 bills and three were passed. Two for renaming post offices and a third to increase payments to disabled VETS. Peal the onion back and dig deep. And the rhetoric continues.
I’m a independent and have voted Republican in most cases. I didn’t like him in 2016 and less now.
And BTW, my father a WWW II vet is one of the losers, captured on the Rhine in Seesenheim France during the Battle of the Bulge, spent 3 months in Bergen Belsen which was liberated by the Brits and Patton’s Army and then spent 1948-1952 in a hospital with TB, had one lung removed. Doctors said he would never see 50, Made it to 48. And the VA hospitals were his only hospital. Never forgot in 1968 he was dismayed by the limbless vets at the Newington VA, I sure it was deja vu as a combat vet and machine gunner during the war.
But again he was a loser according to our President

How many of you VETs on the fire have family members that are losers? Or that doesn’t bother you. It bothered the hell out of me.

DIG deep on your own if you want to know more about people on both sides of the isle, don’t rely on FOX, CNN or other outlets.

Anytime a poster attempts to justify their post by claiming “I’m a Republican But,” AND “my family is military or LE, But”, it’s a clear indication they are full of schit.


HE is from the black hole known as CT which used to be decent state but swallowed the blue pill .

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Originally Posted by abbydog
Such short memories. In 2016 it was a different story. Trump is a master at sowing doubt. It’s one thing to vote the party line, voting because a specific issue affects you but look hard at who is doing the talking. Doth protest too loudly. The first thing i hear out of a person s mouth is we are heading towards socialist with the democrats. Bernies introduced 383 bills and three were passed. Two for renaming post offices and a third to increase payments to disabled VETS. Peal the onion back and dig deep. And the rhetoric continues.
I’m a independent and have voted Republican in most cases. I didn’t like him in 2016 and less now.
And BTW, my father a WWW II vet is one of the losers, captured on the Rhine in Seesenheim France during the Battle of the Bulge, spent 3 months in Bergen Belsen which was liberated by the Brits and Patton’s Army and then spent 1948-1952 in a hospital with TB, had one lung removed. Doctors said he would never see 50, Made it to 48. And the VA hospitals were his only hospital. Never forgot in 1968 he was dismayed by the limbless vets at the Newington VA, I sure it was deja vu as a combat vet and machine gunner during the war.
But again he was a loser according to our President

How many of you VETs on the fire have family members that are losers? Or that doesn’t bother you. It bothered the hell out of me.

DIG deep on your own if you want to know more about people on both sides of the isle, don’t rely on FOX, CNN or other outlets.



I'm sorry Trump hurt your wittle itty bitty feewlings. You're right, we should vote for the party of BLM, social unrest, massive taxes, corruptions, etc... etc... etc because Trump is a meany.

Fuqing pussy.

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As I said I voted Republican far more than democrat. Just couldn’t vote for this guy.

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There is some sworn testimony. That counts as evidence. There are videos. That counts as evidence. There have already been some arrests based on evidence. https://www.star-telegram.com/news/nation-world/national/article247027917.html You aren't going to see any of this on the mainstream media. It's another uncomfortable truth they don't want exposed.

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Originally Posted by abbydog
As I said I voted Republican far more than democrat. Just couldn’t vote for this guy.


Sounds like you have no principles other than how someone affects your feewlings.

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Tough crowd.

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Originally Posted by abbydog
Tough crowd.


Which of his policies do you feel like had the most negative impact on you?


By the way, he NEVER referred to them as losers. That was yet another media lie. When they can cite "anonymous sources" they can get away with anything. If you believe he thinks they are losers and suckers, why do you think he did so much for them. You mentioned the VA. It was Trump who made it possible for veterans to get care where the rest of us do.

Why are you so goddam gullible?

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Originally Posted by abbydog
Such short memories. In 2016 it was a different story. Trump is a master at sowing doubt. It’s one thing to vote the party line, voting because a specific issue affects you but look hard at who is doing the talking. Doth protest too loudly. The first thing i hear out of a person s mouth is we are heading towards socialist with the democrats. Bernies introduced 383 bills and three were passed. Two for renaming post offices and a third to increase payments to disabled VETS. Peal the onion back and dig deep. And the rhetoric continues.
I’m a independent and have voted Republican in most cases. I didn’t like him in 2016 and less now.
And BTW, my father a WWW II vet is one of the losers, captured on the Rhine in Seesenheim France during the Battle of the Bulge, spent 3 months in Bergen Belsen which was liberated by the Brits and Patton’s Army and then spent 1948-1952 in a hospital with TB, had one lung removed. Doctors said he would never see 50, Made it to 48. And the VA hospitals were his only hospital. Never forgot in 1968 he was dismayed by the limbless vets at the Newington VA, I sure it was deja vu as a combat vet and machine gunner during the war.
But again he was a loser according to our President

How many of you VETs on the fire have family members that are losers? Or that doesn’t bother you. It bothered the hell out of me.

DIG deep on your own if you want to know more about people on both sides of the isle, don’t rely on FOX, CNN or other outlets.






He never called them losers. Please get your face out of cnn. Don't be a dumby drinking from the trough of fake news.

BTW- my Dad was in a Sherman with Patton and was one of the first to roll over the fences at Dachau.


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Originally Posted by copperking81
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As I said I voted Republican far more than democrat. Just couldn’t vote for this guy.


Sounds like you have no principles other than how someone affects your feewlings.


It's called democracy. Not everyone agrees with you. And yes, they may include principles in their decision.

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Republican elections lawyer Ben Ginsberg
"What you are also seeing today in court is ... affidavits that don't even challenge votes, but that challenge the process, are really getting derided by judges around the country," said Ginsberg.

Pointing to legal battles in Pennsylvania, Arizona, and Michigan, Ginsburg, there have been a few "bad court days" for the Trump campaign.

"More and more, this is looking like a losing effort and that brand is eventually gonna stick to the President," he said.

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