I am less and less of the mind that Trump will be president on 1/20, it's possible, but sliding to less likely,

Occams Razor says fraud didn't happen: Biden won.

There was fraud, the questions are how much and can it be proven and if so, how fast.

- If, and I think this is a long shot, Trump can prove fraud, the only option is to toss it to the House, If that happens, it's a toss up. How many of the R states will just say 'well our state voted this way'? How many will side with the popular vote? this is NOT a slam dunk for Trump. There will be HUGE pressure to pick Biden and HUGE protests if not Biden.

- If he proves fraud, but not in time, then Biden is president, then what? Biden takes the fall and Harris is president. This one I fear the most. And assumign the fraud mess is real, may very well be the plan all along.

- If he can't prove fraud, to the legal limits, then Biden is president and stays there while the media essentially ignores things.

Sorry folks, I don't see Trump being president, and if he is, I see it being more contentious that the last 4 years. i see most likely is that fraud is proven, but Biden takes the fall and we get harris

Under non of these do I see much changing UNLESS Trump is president on 1/20

Blacktails are rutting here. Bears making themselves scarce.

Wyoming is pleased with their new N.E. Liberal resident..... not

Occums razor? You twit. Dominion uses components from china.

Dominion Voting Systems software was used in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Wisconsin, Nevada, Minnesota and in Maricopa County, Arizona.

Dominion Voting Systems has ties to prominent Democrats, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Bloomberg reported in April of last year that Dominion Voting Systems hired a high-powered lobbying firm that includes a longtime aide to Pelosi. They hired Brownstein Farber Hyatt & Schreck. Nadeam Elshami, Pelosi’s former chief of staff, is one of the lobbyists on the account.

In 2014, Dominion was listed in the Washington Post table as having donated between $25,001-$50,000 to the Clinton Foundation.

In May, WorldTribune.com reported on suspicions of election fraud in South Korea’s April election which saw the party of unpopular leftist President Moon Jae-In win in a landslide.

Not to mention their use in Venezuelan elections.

Occums razors azz you twit

Twit yourself. Every US manufacturer of anything electronic uses components manufactured in China. That's because we've let our manufacturing industries go there.

Ok genius, how do you see this playing out? Dominion is probably most likely, that does what? Throws it to the house, do you see states going down party lines? I am not convinced.

Do you think they can make the case against dominion fast enough? If not in time to stop Biden being inaugurated then what?

You can be a blind obedient follower or you can actually apply some thought. I simply don't see a clear path to Trump by January. And that worries me

No disrespect but your post is proof that their plan is working. Bogus pre-election polls to fabricate low expectations. Massive fraud during the election. Widespread cover by the media to censor any allegations of said fraud. Inaccurately calling Biden "President elect" to create an illusion of inevitability. Establishment of the "Office of the President elect" to create the illusion of credibility. Outlets like FOX who are "supposedly" biased towards Republicans caving to create the illusion of denial and desperation. Stonewalling to create an impossible timeline. Accusations of Trump creating a Constitutional crisis, when in fact, the opposite is true. And doing all this at the end of the most painful year (caused by Democrats) in order to give people election fatigue so that the just wish it was over already.

So outlaw, are you giving up? I am simply trying to understand path forward.

Can Dominion be proven fast enough? If not then what happens if proven later?

I can't figure out why Biden came out of nowhere to run, unless it was the front fall guy to get in who they wanted

Good post.



That's because you're a democrat.

holy phugg

Any evidence of widespread voting fraud will be one of the primary reasons, possibly THE primary reason, given for the split that's looming. If the presidential election is not legitimate because of illegal shenanigans that can be proven, what other result could occur with what the Dems, including Biden, are proposing? If the Senate goes to the Dems and they do what they've been saying they're going to do with Biden/Harris in the White House, violating the Constitution on top of whatever questionable stuff happened in the election in some states, I can't see the Union existing 10 years from now. I don't want that outcome because things will probably be worse than they were 160 years ago, but things aren't looking good for a reconciliation.

Some will say the deep division is Trump's fault, but Trump has been a symptom of the division - not the cause, and his election four years ago was the result of the divisiveness from 2008 to 2016 with the administration in power then weaponizing the IRS, the Dems ending the filibuster for judicial nominations when they controlled the Senate last, etc. The stark divide started with Florida in the 2000 election and has progressively gotten worse over the past 20 years with some Dem controlled states trampling the Constitutional rights of their citizens while catering to criminal elements.

I see it playing out that if any of these cases: especially, the Dominion case get any traction in the courts, then the courts will have to issue an order to stop the election process..Stop the certification until the court cases, investigations, etc can play out...If Sidney has all the evidence she claims and it sheds enough light that there was foreign interference, I would think the courts would have to act quickly...They can't allow the person that may have benefitted from the fraud to become President.

Or, worse case scenario, Trump will have to issue an executive order to stop the election process due to a coop to steal the election, foreign interference in the election, etc., but not sure if that holds up in court.

Well stated.

Time for everybody to move on with the rest of their lives....

I will not move into communism. GTHMF

Kudos for an excellent synopsis.

Yep, good synopsis.

...and what does that synopsis point us to in relation to the OP's post? It seems to me like it falls in line with the OP. I hate it.

It's so painful to watch the media dismiss the discussion of voter fraud. The media takes so many accusations or possibilities and runs with them on everything else....but this they have dismissed immediately.

Still cant believe this red vs blue stuff. Trump was never going to save you guys, he sat by while non-elected officials torched your economy over a 'super pandemic' that turns out cant even kill 3rd worlders in large numbers. Same as both political parties in every 3rd world country. Its time to get over it fellas, your horse lost the race and he wasnt running for you anyway.

What a dumbazz...

There are only things that will prevent Joe Biden from becoming president.........Donald Trump declaring that he will not step down, and remains in office with the support of the military. The other way is for the American citizens to rise up as they did against the British, and taking our country back from the Socialists. I would be in support of either of those things.

https://www.quora.com/Can-the-presi...-FBI-members-be-arrested-by-the-military

Mebbe?

In my travels this weekend had the opportunity to overhear a conversation between two liberals concerning the election. Neither one of them voted for Biden. They voted for Harris! They were quite adamant about this. Both were quite aware of Biden’s incompetence and hoped for his eventual demise.

I suggest we all prepare to conduct ourselves accordingly.

Trump lost. It's that simple. The investigations into fraud need to continue and offenses prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Republicans and conservatives would do well to learn from Trump, and to be prepared to offer a candidate that takes from the best of Trump and knows when to employ a sense of diplomacy and when to fight.

I think there is little doubt if joe gets inaugurated Harris will become the first female president in the history of this nation.
A lot of folks voted just for that milestone.

You go ahead and move on, like the rest of the kneelers and communists.

Yes, the Trump hate is that deep. Know a couple like that, myself.

And all they will do is run from you if you try to broach a conversation about it.

Sorry.

1. Trump did not lose.
2. Great fraud was perpetuated on the American people.
3. Status Quo is deadly.

Logic and mathematics do not support your theory.

There is plenty of evidence of both, which have been posted here and/or are available to those determined and savvy enough to find it.

Go drink with the communists, if you choose.

Plenty of people choose not to do that. Whether Biden succeeds in his fake election or not.

Pathetic

Typical gov't jobber goofball

I'm going to have to get off this website - I shouldn't be reading the comments that I am on a hunting/fishing/outdoor website . Lefty leaning f a g s have taken over this place .

He did not lose. How the [bleep] is getting cheated a “loss”? Addition by subtraction is what happened when you left the miltary/LEO community.

“Lemme lay out my spandex outfit for tomorrow”


-Paul B

Because of a single conversation you overheard, between 2 liberals, you are suggesting all of us act "accordingly"? Uh, OK.

Ok do as you wish. As I don’t care. Really!

On a side note these two individuals were not millennials. Just boomers like myself. So I suppose they were simple two more old phuques rabidly talking amongst themselves as all boomers are known to do. It was a very interesting conversation that one couldn’t help over-hearing.

Have a great week!

An incumbent President doesn't lose an election when they get 73 million votes. That's 10 million more votes than Trump got in 2016.

It's an all time record for a candidate in a Presidential election. There's an enormous amount of voter fraud in this election.

Trump won by a landslide margin.

You voted for him.

I only see one path where Trump remains president. That's if this goes to the house SOON. Recounts simply aren't going to do enough, they are recounting already counted votes, you will need legal action to do an audit where the legality of a cast vote is considered, that takes time. Enough states have to be blocked from certifying votes and providing electors that Biden doesn't get 270. I don't see any way forward where Trump gets 270+. Time is one thing that isn't there, the timeline is laid out by the constitution, along with the rules for if the vote can't result in a president.

Trump signing an executive order to halt things would be wrong, if he can't prove the fraud to have the SC step in, him stepping in is wrong. Him just refusing to leave the WH, also wrong. As of 1/20 he is either president or not, he can't just say "not leaving" at that point he isn't CIC any longer so the military isn't his. If he is CIC then he's president and doesn't leave. There isn't a scenario where he can legally just refuse to leave.

Constitution lays out the steps, bypassing them due to fraud is equally wrong, use the process.

My biggest nightmare in this is that it can't be proven fast enough, we get to January and the electoral college has put Biden in place and it's not overturned because the fraud proof is still playing out. Biden is then president, period.

Fast forward to when fraud is later proven, you can't throw the election to the house, the election is over. You can possibly remove Biden as the head of the snake of the fraud, but then what? There's rules around this, it goes to Harris, if the fraud takes her out, it goes to the speaker/Pelosi. If Pelosi isn't connected to the fraud, can you imagine that scenario.

You voted for confiscation?

Bob_H_in_NH,

Get used to it. Trump gets four more years starting on 1/20/21.

I would imagine if that happened then Congress would not pass one thing for Pelosi. Let's not worry about doing the right thing, the Democrats in the House and Senate would be think of the next mid term election and if they went along would see themselves being wiped out. Also, Pelosi as POTUS would be thinking the same thing.

If the programmer can write an algorithm to monkey with votes, I’d be willing to bet he could write one to cover the tracks too.

And this dude is long gone, changed his name, and is drinking mai tai’s with a few babes. Never to be heard of again.

Is reading comprehension a challenge? I am a Trump supporter, and I hope you are right. My question on this thread is, and since you believe he will be president on 1/20, how?

As of today if nothing changes, it's Biden on 1/20. What path and what decisions do you see happening for it to be changed to Trump on 1/20? I only see one path, throwing this to the House which will take something to happen to not allow enough states to certify so neither Biden nor Trump get 270. What is the path you see?

And for the SW "hiding" it. That's actually TRIVIAL. SW only logs for an audit trail when you tell it to. If the SW is written to not audit where each vote went, it won't and there's no trail.

Get over it. Trump is going to be inaugurated on 1/20/21. He is one of the best presidents this country had.

What you believe and seem to hope for does not establish fact. I don't accept your premise, therefore reading comprehension is not part of the discussion.

I think the Supreme Court is going to do some radical sfuff here and stall the electoral process and put it on the FBI/ DOJ to get off their arse and do an investigation...Too many witnesses across multiple states reporting fraud/ signing affidavits. Too many state laws flat out broken...Too many statisticsl anomolies/ impossibilities in the vote counts showing there was fraud...I'm not sure there is a clause in the Constitution to deal with all that went on in this election; especially, if the FBI and DOJ are not cooperating and doing a serious investigation..The Supreme Court really has nothing to go off of to make an accurate ruling because the system is broken, and the DOJ and FBI arent doing the job they are supposed to do....It's entirely possible foreign interference was a part of the fraud too which makes this even more serious... They have to do something to get an investigation going; else, how can they possibly accurately make a ruling on this?

As far as who gets the Presidency temporarily while an investigation is conducted; unfortunately, it might be Pelosi or whichever DEM the new make up of the House picks as Speaker...

Trump won, bigly. The evidence is clear. How many of you believe 180k votes can be counted IN A ROW for the same candidate? Have you ever seen the counts stopped on election night, to then jump to a different outcome - in multiple states? Trump won. I suspect, but am not sure, that there were people collecting data covertly and we are about to see the outcome of that. At any rate 30% of DEMOCRATS believe the election was stolen; that's how obvious it is.

SCOTUS could order a total controlled audit and that would be it. They can put a halt on things until it is done.

Again, I am not sure how this will play out, but the razor I got from Occam says there was massive fraud and some pretty credible folks are saying so.

All the leftist lies add up to this. A red mirage, don't concede, no matter what, we will pry DJT out of the Whitehouse (cuz he will figure out the fix was in) All the President elect lies and theater; it goes on and on. The lie has history and infrastructure.

I find it hard to imagine a R house delegation going home and telling folks they voted for bitem. They'd be done.

Fight! Do Something. Wins, in the real world are not guaranteed. But, you can assure your losses. This is for keeps and the BIG prize.

Fun post. Thanks.