Do people start dumping their AR's on the market or do they start buying up every one they can find? Or do you go rent a backhoe?

Live life like normal until pushed otherwise

What AR? Ot is something to ponder on. Will we take a stand or roll over?

I guess whatever you can live with.

What will you do with yours?

What happened?
Has some law been passed by the House, Senate and signed into law by the POTUS ?

Nothing. Just like the covid thing, fear of the unknown.

or you could sell it to me cheap....

I put a mask on mine, so it wouldn't get covid.

I'm thinking about buying one if I can get one, but I don't really think I need 30 rounds to deer hunt with.

You may want to rethink that, deer have a plate.

Deer ain't what you hunt with those...

Everyone knows those are for long stands on a good prairie dog town.

Dang, no prairie dogs here. Would Biden voters make good targets?

Don't be an Eric...........

Only if they bring it to us.

Which they very well may.

If Biden takes office, he will assuredly weaponize the intelligence agencies and the entire DOJ against conservatism. We saw that under Obama, with multiple agencies.

But make no mistake, Biden's DOJ, FBI, and the heads of all the alphabet agencies will be loyal to Biden and his handlers. They WILL do something besides stick their thumbs up their asses like Trumps DOJ did.

There are other sized Mags.

Washington DC is a world of it's own. Both political parties are pretty much alike, in their quest for power. The liberals will do their best to push their chit down our throats over the next 4 years, and I honestly don't see the GOP doing much to prevent it.

Or just, you know, run 5 round mags.... https://www.opticsplanet.com/promag...5-56-nato-5-rd-polymer-black-finish.html

Or 10, or 20. Just sayin.'

Assuming BiteMe is inaugurated, you may be right. I think what we do in that case is lean really hard on our governors and state legislators to put up the first line of resistance. After that, it's the counties.

Are you a man or a mouse?

Keep it stoked with 62gr tsx’s beside the door.

If things get to the point you need to hide your guns, the last thing you should be doing is hiding your guns.

Man was talking to his future son-in-law on the night before the boy was supposed to marry the guy's daughter, and he asked the boy.............are you going to be man and do it tonight, or a mouse and wait until tomorrow night? The boy said........I guess I'm a rat because we did it last night.

I'm a rat too, and as Forrest Gump said so eloquently, "that's about all I've got to say about that."

857 million guns in civilian hands world wide
393 million in the US (46%)

I’d say we just say [bleep] you.

Having one is the first step followed closely by having all of the ammo you can afford, they can not take your guns ! But they can make them pretty worthless.

The key being ammo and or components !

The 2nd rat gets the cheese some say.

AR ownership has nothing to do with nor about deer hunting.
Period.

They made 30 round magazines because of politicians like Biden.

Nice

Dimocommies like le Roye and Gooschiet and ejit and.....

Cause, they dont choot straight.

What will I do?

Molon Labe.....bitches!

I hope that's not firearm snobbery - leads to division.

I used to use my M14 for all manner of Aussie game - the prudes used to say you don't need a 20rnd semi-auto to do that. I developed an in-built ignore function.

It has EVERYTHING to do with it.

They'll do all they can to rule by EO and avoid congress altogether.

+1. I'm using my AR in 450 for deer in the morning. Who here thinks it will stop at AR's/AK's?

Or 60 grain Nosler Partitions..


Jayco

It’s hardly snobbery but is directly meant toward Americans owning legally what they want and for whatever reason they want as guaranteed by the 2A of our Constitution.

Repeat:
It ain’t about deer hunting.

Both of you missed the point.

Read my note to Aussie mauser, above.

I know what the 2A means, I just happen to use some of my AR's for hunting.

Liberals use that argument all the time about those nasty rifles and not needed for hunting. They made it about hunting. I'm not calling you a liberal toot, just saying they bring it up.

Fair enough, sounded like you were alluding to AR being inappropriate for deer hunting (which may be the case in regards to cartridge/projectile) and only being suitable for purposes of the 2nd. In Aussie and NZ there was dissent in the ranks with some saying semi-autos had no place hunting, you know - you only need one shot etc, a single shot is all you need. It was internal "white anting" that worked against us.

It’s fair to say that everyone here is all too well aware of what “they” think and say about black rifles.

I don’t care if you use your ARs for f’kn crutches with the stock extended. It’s your right to legally own it and “Use as you see to fit the need”

Deer hunting with it? Great.

But the right to own it legally ain’t about deer hunting.

I'm sure just like down there, people who don't use em for hunting or even own one, didn't care one bit. Hell, they don't own one so who cares....

Until it doesn't stop there.

Sometimes I swear that gun owners are the most divided group there is. Most don't think big picture, just themselves.

Sadly, Mauser, it appears that we’re on the same path.

Good on ya, Man.

Your right under the 2A, it doesn't talk deer hunting. I'm just saying liberals use hunting as a reason where they aren't needed, appealing to the uninformed....

Joel there are several guys in our hunting group that hunt exclusively with ARs. Collapsible stock, up and down ladder stands, good optics makes one mighty handy for the wiley whitetails and the occasional group of hogs that you can literally hammer the piss out of.

Yessir. Truth.

Deer Hunting Arms are covered under the 2nd Amendment.

Fact and Heller/Caetano decisions clearly show arms used for hunting are covered under the 2nd As right to keep and bear arms, even arms for hunting.

Please stop throwing hunting arms off the sleigh.

Thanks.

Sheer f’kn poetry in this post.

NO. ONE is throwing hunting arms off of the sleigh.

I doubt that you understand what’s being said and has been said here.

^^^^^

If some of you were fish, you wouldn't last 15 seconds in the water, because you bite at the first thing you see.......lol.

Heh !

And some don’t know how to fish so they just throw out chum.

You seem to think "deer hunting" arms do not fall under the purview of the 2nd Amendment.

I am simply pointing out the folly of that view.

Keeping and Bearing arms is protected and codified by the 2nd A and includes keeping and bearing deer hunting arms.

I never understood why the FUDDs wanted to throw Black Rifles to the wolves and I don't understand why a few chuckleheads want to throw deer hunting arms to the wolves.

Those who say the 2nd Amendment has nothing to do with hunting arms are wrong and SCOTUS precedence proves them wrong.

Just Sayin.

Actually John, both are right. The 2A doesn't specifically state hunting, but...anybody with half a brain knows back then civilians used their hunting rifles in war. They grabbed what they had and kicked ass.

Unfortunately the dumb asses in this world dont see that, or even understand that concept. Liberals use that to their advantage.

Love the pic.

I just get a bit tired of those that say keeping and bearing arms for hunting is not protected under the 2nd Amendment.

It's not just hunting arms and keeping/ bearing arms for shooting tyrants in the face are also covered along with arms for shooting sporting clays.

Keeping and Bearing Arms.

And some are just as clueless as Dory.

Jeez.

Sure, John.

Btw very nice pic.

The more they come after our stuff, my method of storage becomes more secure. Not like burying guns, where someone might happen to stumble on to it, but more like close to hand, where I can use it at a moment’s notice. When you make me think you might come to get what I have, that gun that was usually in a safe, unloaded, moves to my bedside, loaded, with a stack of mags handy, probably in pouches on a vest with hard plates. Nobody is going to take my guns unless they bring enough fight to be able to pick the smoking gun out of my dead hands.

Well....here is what now


Old Coot is gonna change his depends and mask then crawl into the sack

I hear you John, im frustrated also. If the country actually understood the 2A it would be a non issue. Unfortunately this country is to stupid to understand the life back in the late 1700's

Everyone says they lost them in a boating accident, etc. I didn't and still have them. I'm sticking to my guns on that...no pun intended

I hope the weak hands dump all their ammo on Armslist and I'll buy it up.

Good night, Flave.

After Katrina hit New Orleans, and with “Finding Nemo” being such a hit, Pixar came out with another movie.

“Finding Ne g r o”

Uh NO. The 2'nd is not about hunting.

I don't understand.... why bury it? If I need it, I don't want to have to dig it up first. If someone comes to get it, I'll need it. Burying it seems like a lot of work, twice, for no reason.

The Second Amendment is about tyrants, pure and simple.

It is a fortunate side benefit that weapons which are capable of use in armed conflict also make fine hunting tools.

Pro Tip:

Don't be the feller looking to help the Lefties grab our Hunting Arms or our Sporting Arms.

Keep your paws off.

You just might get a close look at our Shoot Tyrants in the Face Arms.

Just Sayin.

ARs are a fine piece of equipment. No need to give them up. But always remember that Carlos Hathcock struck plenty of fear into the hearts of his enemies with a bolt action rifle. Plenty of them around too. We're blessed to have such fine equipment to work with!

Try to understand. Try to focus.

With no Rights to own there’s no hunting guns to hunt with and of any ilk
Period.

Jus sayin.

and it appears to be highly doubtful that folks like you will ever get it.

One could make the same case for bows and arrows.
Grins

They'd have their place, I guess. Folks would be pretty safe around me though.

I cleverly sold it several years ago when the prices went out of sight. Haven't missed it.

I hope that aforementioned rifle is still happily carrying on in the bush...if you know what I mean!

That's allegedly what happened here and New Zealand - hide the "now illegal" firearms so you don't get caught with them. But then how do you use them, and where do you use them? I wonder how many got buried and how many still are? At the time, prior to the "buyback", there was no licencing requirements here in Queensland, and semi-autos were not overly restricted, so it was easy to buy firearms. Also prior to that time SKS' were pretty much aflood in the market. A very large number of SKS' in particular were never recovered at the buyback because they didn't know who had bought them in the first place.

At the buy back money was provided in exchange for the firearms. In the meantime there have been several amnesties where illegal firearms can be surrendered without prosecution and without receiving any money either. The amnesties seem to work each time because some people inherit the illegal firearms and have no use for them and are otherwise wary about what they should do about it - easier to continue hiding them than face any retribution for an "honest attempt" to try and get rid of them.

I think they are talking about a permanent national amnesty at the moment.

Just telling you what happened here, but we don't have anything like the 2nd.

Past is all too often prologue.

Much appreciate your input, Mauser.

Not sure what happened to it - I traded it in before we had our "buy back". I had to trade it because I was moving interstate and they didn't allow high capacity semi-autos. The move was more important than the firearm at that time.

The only thing you should be burying is the body of the POS that tries to confiscate your legally owned, constitutionally guaranteed property.

Wife and I were watching the Huckabee show on TBS and he had a comic on that said " the only reason Democrats don't like guns is the U.S. government isn't giving them away for free". Wonder if that is true?

That’s a good one !

If anything happens then odds are high it would follow the Australian model as your anti gun crew have all said it is the way to go. So if it did this is what you could expect to happen,

1) There would be an announcement of when "buy back" would start and what guns would be involved. if one of the guns is still owned after he buy back date then the penalties, In Australia it in the order of selling cocaine etc. and criminal record so all your other guns go.

2) Buy back prices. For New full recommended retail was paid so could be 30% more than you paid. Then Mint Condition and Used. For Used the price was the same even if there was no barrel and stock or trigger. There were lots and lots of people who thought prices would be extremely low and lost of people who read things correctly and bought up every semi auto in poor and not working condition and of course made a bundle of money. For the various one off guns where the value would be much higher these were given a price by gun people and always high as they knew the money would go back into bolt actions etc, and maybe at their gun shop.

A lot of people are on the door the morning it starts as they had rifles they no longer wanted and needed money etc.

3) THIS IS THE MAIN POINT. There is no Last Stand. The gov't does not come looking. It is a die on the vine principle. If a neighbour of your called the police and told them you have a "banned gun" nothing happens. Of course the problem is where and how do you use the gun. If you are caught, maybe a car smash or whatever, the gun is taken and no payment and you have a very serious criminal record and so all your other guns go as well as anything (maybe job, business) else that would go if you have a serious criminal record.

But again, if you plan a Last Stand it will be against no one as no one is coming.