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A friend in Seattle sent a story regarding the Seattle City Council considering a proposal to create a "poverty defense" for up to 100 different crimes.

https://katu.com/news/nation-world/...se-idea-stirs-strong-response-12-11-2020
I wonder if rape will be legal too? If I can can't afford a box of chicken, he sure can't afford a hooker or to take a girl out on a date. So he will have no choice but to rape.
Another joke coming out of Seattle.
I recommend their City Council come up with a “Robin Hood Burials Fund” to pay for cremation and casket services as well.

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All part of the leftist agenda. Ever notice how they seem to create poverty & chaos, and then come along with the "solution" to the problems they created? And of course those problems are ALWAYS the fault of someone and/or something else. So once the masses are impoverished they come along with all their social freebies like welfare and low income housing, aka "welfare palaces". The elites aren't very busy creating actual economic activity so folks can get ahead but they're more than happy to kiss your azz and shower you with freebies while you become poor, get kept poor and they get wealthy. Welcome to socialism.
To your point. The new Dems love superstars of high-tech and big business like Amazon, Intel, Nike, et al.

Liberal/Dems are selective capitalists who protect companies that assist in keeping them in government....Yet, they want to transfer the burden of class separation and income inequality onto the middle and lower class working person by hammering away at legislation that
will allow taking more from us, and making it okay.

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The new Dems love superstars of high-tech and big business like Amazon, Intel, Nike, et al.
Yet AOC was largely responsible for Amazon dropping plans to build in NYC. That cost them 25k new jobs.
Logger: Every day, for the last for the last 24 years, I have thanked my lucky stars that I retired from and moved out of that schithole of a city and to Montana.
That schithole of a city was turning bad back then but it is 100 times worse today and no sign of reversing itself!
This would be laughable were it not so serious a turn!
Sheesh.
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VarmintGuy
The supply of idiocy in this country is in no danger of running out.
I’d be better off poor in Seattle. Tent cities to hangout in and drink all day, free healthcare, food stamps and welfare, groups that bring free meals to the junkies in the park, and now possibly commit up to a 100 different crimes because I’m poor that someone else can’t because they ain’t poor. WTF!

I could even legally take a dump on the city streets and have the state pay someone to come clean it up. Oh wait that’s California.
Originally Posted by Beaver10
To your point. The new Dems love superstars of high-tech and big business like Amazon, Intel, Nike, et al.

Liberal/Dems are selective capitalists who protect companies that assist in keeping them in government....Yet, they want to transfer the burden of class separation and income inequality onto the middle and lower class working person by hammering away at legislation that
will allow taking more from us, and making it okay.

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Exactly.
Interesting concept on the part of those compassionate and futuristic thinking whatevers who seem to run Seattle.

Suck people into voting for you because you promise them free stuff paid for by those who work for a living,
mold them into a parasitic and impoverished lifestyle by controlling the supply of free stuff,
manage these poor misfits so that they become a blight on the populace and a threat/nuisance to those who work and pay the bills,
protect these poor poverty-stricken suckers from prosecution for the crimes you stimulate and encourage them to commit,
and ruin your community for all who work, obey the laws and pay for everything.

Hey, you city leaders, what do you call this concept?? How does it mesh with the concepts of self-determination self-respect, and self-reliance - not to mention the concepts of honesty, fairness and strength of community?
CCCC: You have asked questions that indeed SHOULD be asked AND answered!
Sadly no one dares ask questions of city (political leaders at any level!) regarding American values/responsibilities.
It is a brave new world that "we" have allowed to come into existence!
Only thing I can say is for Americans to be more careful who they vote for - socialists promises from politicians will only lead to the internal destruction of our once great country.
The once great city of seattle along with portlandia and EVERY major city in kalifornicationkopia are to far gone and infested with "free-loaders" to ever come back.
That is sad.
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VarmintGuy
Originally Posted by dye7barrel
Another joke coming out of Seattle.


Except, they aren’t funny.
Seattle currently can’t even afford to fix minor potholes so unless their poverty defense lawyers are doing it pro-bono there ain’t no way they can afford it. Seattle like most liberal run cities needs to become the victim of their own stupidity and greed. They aren’t too big to fail, they’re too stupid to survive. Fu.ck Seattle, it’s a cesspool of drug addicts, homeless bums and their enablers....they all deserve to dies from a staph infection.

With a lot of the big tech and Boeing realizing that they are shouldering a disproportionate amount of Seattle’s communist bullshit, they are leaving Seattle in droves. it won’t be long until the entire city loses virtually all of its tax base and implodes on itself. I can’t wait...
Anyone that has real estate in Seattle needs to sell it right the fuqk now before the bottom drops out.
You get what you vote for.

Don’t like it? Move.

What happens when the tax base and jobs leave? I’d love to find out.



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Sounds good to me.
Seattle is in a race for the most retarded city on the west coast. I ain’t sure if they're winning, but they sure are trying hard.
They tried to pass a tax to pay for the anti poverty programs.

Big liberal business said no....we will leave first.

Well......now what?

Legalized crime!
I got a better idea. I recommend every working stiff or business owner pick out some criminal bum to support for life.. or 10.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You get what you vote for.

Don’t like it? Move.

What happens when the tax base and jobs leave? I’d love to find out.



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Ever been to Detroit? That’s what happens.
Eventually, this will all be tidied up, and there will be a straightforward "Criminal Defense", where the law will stipulate that criminals, being criminals, MUST commit crimes, and because of the imperative to do so based upon the very criminal nature of the individual in question, no court can punish a criminal for being what he or she just naturally is. It is only self-described non-criminals who can be punished for committing crimes.

I'm not joking.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You get what you vote for.

Don’t like it? Move.

What happens when the tax base and jobs leave? I’d love to find out.



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Ask Mr Cuomo in NY. Just announced that he's gonna raise taxes because since he closed down so many businesses the tax revenue isn't what it needs to be. There is a mass exodus of people leaving NY state. Not the city.
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Seattle considering poverty defense for criminals


Heck, even Jean Valjean didn't get to use that defense.

Originally Posted by Valsdad
[quote]Seattle considering poverty defense for criminals[/quote

Heck, even Jean Valjean didn't get to use that defense.



Well, that's just miserable.
Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
Eventually, this will all be tidied up, and there will be a straightforward "Criminal Defense", where the law will stipulate that criminals, being criminals, MUST commit crimes, and because of the imperative to do so based upon the very criminal nature of the individual in question, no court can punish a criminal for being what he or she just naturally is. It is only self-described non-criminals who can be punished for committing crimes.
This might seem obtuse, but our society has already experienced such illusion with the "I was born this way - I have to - - - - it is my nature - - - don't hold me accountable for - - -" used by some types in efforts to legitimize their aberrant behavior.
Originally Posted by 5sdad
[quote=Valsdad]
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Seattle considering poverty defense for criminals[/quote

Heck, even Jean Valjean didn't get to use that defense.



Well, that's just miserable.


Yes, it is.
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Ask Mr Cuomo in NY. Just announced that he's gonna raise taxes because since he closed down so many businesses the tax revenue isn't what it needs to be. There is a mass exodus of people leaving NY state. Not the city.


whole world is doing the same thing right now. Straight out of the 3rd world handbook for disaster response- Flood, fire, invasion, epidemic. whatever Lockdown/curfew to prevent looting, racketeering, theft, disease spread, fry small business, big business buys them up, everyone gets jobs on less pay with the new business, everyone gets taxed harder.

A million dollars could virtually eliminate the problem.....give everyone that takes you up on your offer to buy and see them on the bus or train ride home and a couple of sandwiches, snacks and a few hundred bucks once they’re on the buses or trains. Or just give them the same offer to go to someplace warm like Los Angeles or San Diego...

Minimum of 800 miles...the further you go the more greenbacks and bologna sandwiches you get. Go back to Africa and you get your picture on my refrigerator.
Originally Posted by 5sdad
The supply of idiocy in this country is in no danger of running out.



Don't mean to be rude fella but I am pretty sure most of it originates there.
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
A million dollars could virtually eliminate the problem.....give everyone that takes you up on your offer to buy and see them on the bus or train ride home and a couple of sandwiches, snacks and a few hundred bucks once they’re on the buses or trains. Or just give them the same offer to go to someplace warm like Los Angeles or San Diego...

Minimum of 800 miles...the further you go the more greenbacks and bologna sandwiches you get. Go back to Africa and you get your picture on my refrigerator.


South Carolina used to give homeless people $600 and a bus ticket to NYC, told them about all the free chit they would get when they got there.
Originally Posted by CCCC
Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
Eventually, this will all be tidied up, and there will be a straightforward "Criminal Defense", where the law will stipulate that criminals, being criminals, MUST commit crimes, and because of the imperative to do so based upon the very criminal nature of the individual in question, no court can punish a criminal for being what he or she just naturally is. It is only self-described non-criminals who can be punished for committing crimes.
This might seem obtuse, but our society has already experienced such illusion with the "I was born this way - I have to - - - - it is my nature - - - don't hold me accountable for - - -" used by some types in efforts to legitimize their aberrant behavior.

That's my point. Eventually, this will be a matter of law.
This also torques me:

I saw a couple days ago someone (ACLU??? - or maybe an opinion pc) proposing prisoners in Alaska get priority for the just arrived (in limited number) Covid vaccine, as their population has the highest infection rate. Due to their living conditions (and of course their strict adherance to rules).

MY take: fug 'em. They got themselves in there... and they are in "lock-down" anyway. They aren't much risk for infection to the general public. The vaccine goes to front line workers and other necessary personnel, and those at highest risk other than criminals.

Yeah, definitely the corrections officers, but the prisoners can go hang, so to speak- they still have a better than 99% chance of living through it.
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