We The People..

What happened that "We The People" are no longer relevant.

When did we give up our voice to be heard?

Have we forgot that we are the in the majority and politicians work for us?

Why do we stand for tyranny of our government?

Why do we let lies and blatant fraud stand?

Are we truly sheep and accept what we are told with no recourse?

Why are we allowing politicians to block access to facts that would allow the people to determine what's right or wrong?

Why is the Constitution no longer the basis of our Country's way of life?

I'm sick of backroom deals being made, and sick of money buying our "representatives" to undermine our rights and freedoms for the sake of their personal gain.

We once revolted against "Taxation Without Representation".


I think that time has come once more...

Good post

Your plan going forward is,,,,,,,,,?

Nice speech, though.

Ready....

Somebody's got to organize and push the go button.

We need leadership, a plan and the end objective needs to be known to all. All Media will be shut down if the people ever cbegin to organize.

Organizing is the problem.

It's not just media. These days it only takes a few keystrokes to shut down your life.

Leadership:

1. All states that voted for Trump should immediately declare and put into law that they are 2A Sanctuary States and will follow the Constitution as written.

2. The same for Trump counties within states that voted for Biden.

3. Be prepared for all federal funding to be cut from #s 1 & 2, above.

That’s a beginning.

They'd have to ignore/repeal every gun law on the books. Never happen. Even 99% of conservatives wouldn't be able to handle/condone just anybody having access to and the unfettered right to bear/carry whatever gun they want.

When you realize that you are old and are being replaced by people who do not share your values, it begins to be obvious why the country we loved does not exist.

We know from lessons of history that the "new" agenda will not ever work and it is just a disguised play for total power and control. Too many of "We the People" are ignorant of history and cannot think for themselves and have been brainwashed by years of ever increasing socialism.. High tech and a media controlled by socialists has increased the pace of the process. We know this is true because we are old and have witnessed depressions, and wars and propaganda.

And to top it all off, how can there be a "We the People" when our votes are irrelevant?

History tells us that this country was founded by a small percentage of its occupiers who risked everything. The struggle for freedom was aided by great sacrifice, strong moral leadership, timely allies, and good luck. It would be hard to repeat in today's world of surveillance cameras and a government swamp determined to retain power.


To fix the few flaws and omissions of the founding structure that got us to this point would be a monumental effort in a country so divided.

It would be worth the effort and risk because the alternative is serfdom.
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Blackheart, I can see what you’ve said applying in a state like New York but do recall that many states ignored federal laws, thumbing their noses at the feds as it concerns immigration, Sanctuary cities, Sanctuary States and dope laws.

The precedents have been well established.

Those of us who live in solidly Red States like I do already have those laws of protection on the books.

It would all depend upon your locale.

The alternative at this stage of the game is very simple.

Balkanization.

Balkanization leaves us extremely vulnerable to outside enemies. The trick is to rid ourselves of the internal socialists, while maintaining a military loyal to the constitution. Then go about fixing all the things that need fixing and there are a hell of a lot of things need fixing.

Frankly, I've come to the conclusion that "we the people" have not only gotten lazy but selfish as shell. The "ME" generation squared. Up to the ending of WW2 people had it rough. They'd just been through a serious depression and world war. Now things were good and they got better. They got lazy and lazier yet. The attitude became, "Hooray for me, screw you." It only got worse.To keep up with the Jones' mommy had to go to work. We had the latch key kids with no supervision, brainwashed into good little "useful idiots" but their teachers and college professors.
I think many people who are P.O.ed as hell about this would like to write their representatives but are either too fearful of the powerful or think doing so is nothing more than piissing up a rope. It's a sad state of affairs but I for one am glad I won't be around much longer as I.m well past my four score and probably won't make all of the last ten I'm supposed to be allotted.
Paul B.

Ain’t happening and there ain’t no “tricks” to “rid” anyone except for ridding Conservative Constitutionalist

If you know of any tricks to rid the socialist please post them.

Those several three and four star soldiers surrounding the president aren't there to play tiddlywinks..

Therein lies the possibility.

Toot,
The divide in my observation is rural versus urban. The cities vote blue and the rural areas vote red as a whole. That seems to be true all across this country. Even California has rural red. The higher the concentration of people the more socialist they get.

Truth.

And we change that,,,how ?

Try it. Commies have never in their bloody history accepted a partial victory. Piles of bones all over the globe bear mute testimony to this fact. Balkanization is a pipe dream.

Only a beta male could possibly dream of ceding territory and treasure of this nation to people who are diametrically opposed to us and our way of life. This land is ours, it was gained through vast amounts of blood and effort, and to think of ceding portions of it to communists so that we can put off a fight is repugnant and a slap in the face to all the men and women who have given everything to make America what it is. Whether you like it or not, it is all or nothing. I feel that way, and believe there are many more like me, and those who oppose us all feel that way. The cuck contingent will be forced to pick a side, in spite of their squeamishness.

Agree fully...

#1 Unify...One man can't do it alone

#2 Identify the problem or process

#3 Prepare a response

#4 Initiate accordingly

#5 Be relentless, demand action to resolve

Agreed

Tuts is like talking to block wall. So dense she has to get info from the “news”.

LOL

So gaming dope head basement dwellers can organize but we can’t.. ? Gotcha

All nice words.

How, when and where does it all start? Who leads off? What is the genesis of it?

One more for ya. Gonna run down to Bass Pro for some more ammunition? Cabelas, maybe?

Those are the f’ckn questions.

Actually, Flave, I get it from the buzzard and he gets it from the dead man so I’m about last on the list.

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GR

So you think every conservative in your state would be fine with no gun laws ? No paperwork to fill out, no background check, order a gun and have it delivered to your door, no restrictions on who can carry where, suppressors, SBR's, sawed off shotguns and full auto for all ? You're living in fantasy land if you do.

Wolf, listen up.

Tell that scchitt to California, Oregon, Washington, New York, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Arizona, New Mexico,,,,,there’s more.

You’re living in a Fuggin dream world dude. Wake the f’k up and look all around you.

It starts with like minded people discussing among themselves and others...

The failure of Adult Responsibility - is not the part of either the Constitution of the United States or its Civil Society.




GR

All so nice and touchy feely.

Answer the Fuggin questions and let’s go from there.

Quit your damned dwaddling and get down to the mechanics of it.

That’s not at all what I said or even implied.

The fantasy land that you speak of is in New York.

Try again and with less diversions.

Knowing something is wrong, and taking actions that would be dangerous and could cost you everything, are two very different things.

Most people are not willing to 'go there' until they feel they have nothing left to lose.

As a population, we have not felt any real pain being inflicted upon us by our govt.

If/when that type of pain becomes clear and palpable to the masses, then a hostile reaction will be organic.

Most people today can't handle, don't want and even fear the freedoms guaranteed in the BOR..

And that is the basis of the problem that America as an ideal and a nation faces today: NO ONE actually supports Liberty or the Constitution or the Rule of Law. And you've laid out the case for why "I just vote Red" doesn't and won't solve schit. You think this is all happenstance? Coincidence? That of the two main political parties in the US, neither supports the ideals upon which this nation was founded?

No diversions. There are no constitutionally legitimate gun laws that I'm aware of. "The right of the people" and "shall not be infringed" are absolute with no exceptions. Any law or regulation is an infringement. Therefore, those red Trump states that you said should "declare and put into law that they are 2A sanctuaries and will follow the constitution as written" would have to repeal/ignore all gun laws currently on the books. So to wrap this up, that is exactly what you said and implied.

The logistics of dismantling a tyrannical govt today aren't the same as they were in 1800. They are what you would call "entrenched" to the tenth power, have every resource known to man at their disposal to quell a patriotic uprising.

We have jobs and mortgages, and no slaves to maintain the plantation while we go away to war. Electronically they could shut our life down in about 30 seconds, and that was not a concern 250 years ago. Back then it was everyone on equal terms with simple geography, weather, and troop numbers the determining factors in the outcome. Now, they hold all the power.

Because Kaperdink taught people to kneel?

Might as well start suing the counties that allowed cheating before the socialist tax all your money away and you can't afford a lawyer anymore...

GR

You don't have to try to convince me. I'm with you on this and that's exactly what I've been trying to get across here.

I’ll put up with a lot of scheit in order to maintain the status quo, and why not? Making $$, setting my kids up for a good future etc...
but they come to take my lawfully owned property from me, for no other reason than they decide I shouldn’t have it any longer, they better kiss their fuggin families goodbye, cause I’ll give them no quarter. NO matter the cost to me. Every single one of you better have the same mentality, or be prepared to live like a servant. I’d rather die. They face the blowback I’m expecting, they’ll change their minds real quick.
Come and take it.

100% This...

The vast majority of anarchists who have been running amuck are mostly students who aren’t in school. Teachers who aren’t teaching. Blacks who are on government financial assistance. Street urchins who live on the streets. And, the criminal and mentally unstable, which are prevalent in every society.

Until we, the providers of tax payments and incomes start feeling the direct pain from a government that is condoning and encouraging behaviors that removes our property in ways once considered illegally,,,,but now seen as a legitimate redistribution of wealth to those who lay claim to others hard earned things.

We probably won’t have a unified response. But, once the above happens. Leaders amongst us will rise with a coalesced message that will include all forms of action against a 21st Century tyranny.

God and people will Fûck the King....

😎🦫

Agree, Some spark will come from an unexpected direction and all hell will be visited. And those who just wanted to be left alone (as noted above) will come full on. Many have given everything to give us our freedom never forget. How many are asking themselves today where they draw the line.

Agreed. You left out the software though. It also votes blue, and just enough to overcome the red.

Loop

And that is very likely the places that these discussions often take place (bars, restaraunts, churches) are currently shut down in many states.

+1 agree ..

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I've been talking about organizing for a while now glad to see it being discussed .
Organizing with like minded people - having a plan in place IF the socialist gov't were to try and go outside the Constitution - then you're ready to react to their illegal action . Or sit in your Barca Lounger/chipsNdips/pepsi figuring others will take care of the problem . There are MANY of us - if we organize we'll outnumber them 100's of times over if YOU take the chip&dips route - I sure hope you know you're seeing a coward when you look in the mirror .
There are tens of thousand of boys/teens/20's/30's year olds that will gladly join our ranks .
PLAN AHEAD - BE READY NOW
President Trump was a four year extension for us , think where we would be right now if the 2016 FIXED ELECTION went the way it was PLANNED to go !?! Four year [eight years] under the rule of hillary clinton ? <-- yeah .

We can't drag our feet any longer , no matter what your age or physical condition is YOU need to help - we all need to be involved . This 'I'm too old'' is BS !!!!!!

Organizing in your region then connecting somehow ? I'm no expert in how to get it going and I know it won't happen overnight - nothing big works like that .
I'd like to hear others thoughts on doing something like this -- I'm not talking going out and destroying anything or shooting anything or anybody . BUT IF the socialist start infringing - they'll need to be corrected . With enough Patriots the left would realize that their commie games can and will have very bad results .

If President Trump retains office - we had better not waste those years sitting idle . Get out of that Barca Lounger ..

They won't do it this directly. They will continue to chip-chip away, just like they've done the last 50 years.

How about them already taxing you for a whole bunch of crap that is unconstitutional?

...and they will use their data base and LEO to do the chipping.

Traffic stop, you are in the list, arrest and confiscate, etc.

I'm glad to hear it. Seems to be missing in so many of these "dem v. republican" debates.

I don’t like it, but I can afford it without cramping my lifestyle so fugg it. It’s not worth killing and/or dying for.
A person physically taking my guns/ammo or making null and void my legal title to land, I’m ok with killing or dying and hopefully not the latter til I’ve had a chance to do the former.

The rest of the worlds powers are just watching and biding their time while America is dismantled from within.

It's difficult to say what the world will look like in 100 years. But I don't see the U.S.A. making a strong comeback. The destruction of this country was baked in the cake when the subversives in our government (and those who control them) decided that the great melting pot idea would include flooding the country with 3rd world parasites.

The Founding Fathers set this country up for Caucasians.

I went to university with the most entitled, educated socialist idjits in the Nation. We were baptised(1987) with the abomination known as political correctness and were forced to comply. I keep up with them just to see how the city slickers live. Most are multimillionaires and some of them are billionaires.(legit). You would be amazed how paranoid they are of what they call the reckoning or the great cull. When vast numbers of people in our nation and people across the world will die from an even higher structured level of elites( the Davos crew). In my conversations with them they are more fearful of a group of conservative technicians cutting the powergrid in the Eastern US and then having the Truckers just stop delivering food than from Nukes. The next great civil war will be between the urban poor and urban elites with a bit of conservative monkeywrenching involved. Canada also needs this type of reset. How it will go will not be based on me jumping up and down up here. This baby is headed for the cities. There is a conservative minority in those places that doesn't vote, works hard and is ready to rock and roll. One townie cop in Boston can take down 50 metrosexual manbuns and Whoopie Goldberg bulldykes if it goes real. However, if it doesn't within the next ten years I can say that GenX is not as salty as the old boys in Vietnam Vet hats that I see breaking covid protocols drinking their coffee down at the Holiday Gas station cafe. We could be in for tough sledding.

This is what we are sitting still for : Look what was elected. Higher taxes, more wars, blm and antifa destroying businesses and homes, higher regulations, tougher climate regulation, destruction of coal , oil, nuclear energy, medicare for all, social security for all, open borders for any country to come here, more regulations from the united nations, gun confiscation, gun taxes on what they let you keep, luxury taxes, bring back the death tax, add to the supreme court judges, make DC a state, make puerto rico a state, and make somalia a state. Add more democrat senators and representatives. Defund the police. Calapse of the stock market and businesses going back overseas. This will just be biden's 2nd day. I am sure I missed some of what they want to do because harris has her own agenda too. Then there are the other erratic democrats.

Can some one justify any democrat in government or anyone who wants communism?

Louisiana doesn’t have to repeal any single law at all Blackheart.

Now, your state of New York is a totally different ball of wax as is most northern coastal states.

Put another way, it’s too late for you guys. Period.

No need to listen up. Heard all your bleating about giving the commies a place of their own on American soil already.

I talk to folks all over the place. Customers, suppliers, realtors, folks at church. and people all over the country I have traveled to meet because we had things in common. I read more than I talk. I am not hiding under a rock. How about you? You looking beyond the guys at your low-T club? Beyond West, W. Fla. Republic? Who are you talking to that thinks giving the commies their own piece of America is the way to go? What gave you the idea you know it all, and that I need to look around? What makes you think you know how people think in the Ozarks, the Appalachians, the Rockies, and the prairies and deserts? Coffee in the morning with the other retirees doesn’t count.

So you don't honor GCA '34 and GCA '68 there and the state allows you to buy a gun without any paperwork or background check ? How about full auto's, sawed off shotguns and suppressors without getting permission from the Feds and paying their tax ? I didn't think so. Meaning you'd have to not honor those Federal gun laws if your state were to legitimately declare itself a 2A sanctuary and "follow the constitution as written" like you suggested.

Anyone that has their fu.cking eyes and ears open and is paying attention would stop, STFU, quit blaming each other and realize our states have been illegally and unconstitutionally taken over through corruption! Either endemic corruption like the buying and ownership of politicians or outright, intentional election fraud or in many cases both!

If corruption was stopped overnight we wouldn’t recognize this country tomorrow.....it would be beautiful!

It’s coming. This country is going to be saved by President Trump!

This BS has been needing fixing since 2008 if not before and here we are still just talking. Trump won and we let him fight our battles for 4 years and no one jumped in to help him. Just the opposite happened and we just sat on our hands while our country was being burned and looted. I know I'm a pussy because I won't lead the charge.

The trouble with leading the charge is that you'd look back and there'd be nobody behind you. Then your dead ass would be labeled a nut case on the nightly news and the big, tough, internet patriots that should have been behind you would be nodding in agreement while they slurped down another beer from the lazy boy.

Very true Blackheart, but I'm willing to give my life for my kids liberty and freedoms, but I'd like to not waste it. Personally I think the armed services need to stand down and let us sort it out ourselves.

So what did Trump need from us? Everywhere I've went for the past year I've worn that red hat. Strangers came up to me of all ages telling me they like the hat. My reaction was that we need Donald Trump and he needs our help. They agreed. How did they vote? Don't know. I would like to do more and will when I see I can.

What we lack in this fight is divine leadership. My Founding Fathers, yes mine, had that. We need to seek that first. Now before any of you get all bent out of shape over separation of church and state think about when our real trouble began. Why not at least give it a try. Do we have anything to lose?

May we be so lucky. And be up to the job.

President Trump might be building a case for 2018 Executive Order 13848 Imposing...nterference in a United States Election.

“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” ― Abraham Lincoln

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”― Edmund Burke

We The People:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOkkWIOkWl8&feature=emb_logo

Question:

Have you looked at number of Blue states that we presently have as of the November elections?

I don’t claim to know it all, Wolf. I only claim that you obviously are totally unawares of the political state of our Nation and repeatedly listen to Louis Satchmo Armstrong’s “I say to myself what a wonderful world “.

Hint:
The commies have already taken their pieces of America and are on their way to claim the rest.

Now let’s hear your “specifics” to reclaim these Blue states. Be specific in your methodology to accomplish this task.

Leadership:

1. All states that voted for Trump should immediately declare and put into law that they are 2A Sanctuary States and will follow the Constitution as written.

That’s a beginning.[/quote] They'd have to ignore/repeal every gun law on the books. Never happen. Even 99% of conservatives wouldn't be able to handle/condone just anybody having access to and the unfettered right to bear/carry whatever gun they want.
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Blackheart, I can see what you’ve said applying in a state like New York but do recall that many states ignored federal laws, thumbing their noses at the feds as it concerns immigration, Sanctuary cities, Sanctuary States and dope laws.

The precedents have been well established.

Those of us who live in solidly Red States like I do already have those laws of protection on the books.

It would all depend upon your locale.[/quote] So you think every conservative in your state would be fine with no gun laws ? No paperwork to fill out, no background check, order a gun and have it delivered to your door, no restrictions on who can carry where, suppressors, SBR's, sawed off shotguns and full auto for all ? You're living in fantasy land if you do.
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That’s not at all what I said or even implied.

The fantasy land that you speak of is in New York.

Try again and with less diversions.[/quote] No diversions. There are no constitutionally legitimate gun laws that I'm aware of. "The right of the people" and "shall not be infringed" are absolute with no exceptions. Any law or regulation is an infringement. Therefore, those red Trump states that you said should "declare and put into law that they are 2A sanctuaries and will follow the constitution as written" would have to repeal/ignore all gun laws currently on the books. So to wrap this up, that is exactly what you said and implied.
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Louisiana doesn’t have to repeal any single law at all Blackheart.

Now, your state of New York is a totally different ball of wax as is most northern coastal states.

Put another way, it’s too late for you guys. Period.[/quote] So you don't honor GCA '34 and GCA '68 there and the state allows you to buy a gun without any paperwork or background check ? How about full auto's, sawed off shotguns and suppressors without getting permission from the Feds and paying their tax ? I didn't think so. Meaning you'd have to not honor those Federal gun laws if your state were to legitimately declare itself a 2A sanctuary and "follow the constitution as written" like you suggested.
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No scchitt, Bro?

While we’re talking hit Bing, e.g., and type in something like,,,

2A Sanctuary counties map

Get back to me or send an email to each of the counties and tell them why they cannot do that.

I’ll wait.

What a laugh. We've got counties here in upstate NY that have declared themselves "2A sanctuary". It's a fuggin joke. One reason being they still abide by most of the gun laws on the books. You still can't buy a gun without jumping through the unconstitutional gov't hoops. Those counties sheriff's departments have declared that they won't enforce the SAFE act but have no problem enforcing the thousands of other unconstitutional state and federal gun laws on the books. It's bogus bullshyt. You are being intentionally obtuse on this or you're just plain stupid, one or the other. In either case, it's not worth the time to continue this discussion.

The internet organizing can be shut down. There are local face to face groups that have organized. Our local one is http://www.bcpphp.berkscountypatriots.org/mission-statement.html

They have signs and small billboards up all around Berks county inviting people to get involved

All bogus and obtuse, eh?
I can see why you don’t won’t to continue.

Have a good one and merry Christmas.

Watch out for paid infiltrators like hit the TEA party.
Rats abound.

power to the people

Yes that is a danger . But we can paralyse ourselves to inaction by concentrating on every danger

So you admit that your idea of ceding territory to the commies is unsustainable. Good on you.

Now, try this. Look at the US map of counties. See all that red? Yeah. The cities can often control the states, and with the current level of fraud, will do so reliably. Not even in dispute. I see it happen all the time, since I am indeed aware of the political situation in this country. Where you and I diverge is you are sitting here hoping for a political solution to the problem. You need to find a way to give those city rats all the freebies the commies promise, while at the same time allowing them the benefits of liberty. Cannot be done, as the two are utterly incompatible. If you want a political solution, you need to figure out how we are going to get representation based on territory controlled, versus the current population scheme. Wrong at its core and a nonstarter.

My position is that the red that covers most of the land mass also grows the food, supplies the electricity and usually water to the cities. We don’t vote the commies out, we starve them out. Nobody ever voted their way out of communism. Ever. It either collapses under its own weight, or it is killed off kinetically by the people, a la Romania. I do not wish to live under communism while people like you come to the realization that we are going to have to fight, or cuck out altogether and wait patiently for it to die a natural death.

I prefer to kill it now. We will never be better armed than we are now. We will never control the food supply as much as we do now. There will never be more freedom oriented citizens than now. The right in this nation needs to come together and refuse to cooperate with leftist areas altogether. No power, no freight, no nothing from us. Our territory needs to become absolutely hostile to leftists. They should not feel safe outside their enclaves. They should find themselves surrounded and cut off by an implacable and relentless nation. Thus, they can be forced to a negotiating mindset, and then, we push them to the edge of extinction, or farther, once we have the control of our own land again. You do not treat communists fairly. You bleed them to death in every way possible. If we expect fair play from these bastards, we are already lost. It is an existential fight, and those are not won politically. It's why nations have armies. We are on the edge of being politically insignificant in real terms. What is your plan for that? Other than losing, of course.

Exactly. And I believe most of their assault will come in the form of additional taxes...on incomes, property, and things they don't like such as firearms and ammo.

His plan seems to be for red states to declare themselves "constitutional 2A sanctuaries" while they still enforce/uphold all the unconstitutional Federal gun laws already on the books, background checks/4473's/tax stamps for suppressors etc.etc... That'll show those fuuckin commies.

And who leads all these nobel causes you keep espousing?

So,,,,people in the Blue states stand by and allow themselves to be starved?

You do realize that “they “ make the rules in those Blue states?

I’ve already told you ,,,,Balkanization ,,,,,and it’s already here.

Hey, Bro, come on down to 2A Sanctuary Louisiana.

Let me take you there

Via:

www.louisianasportsman.com

Click on:
Classifieds

Click on:
Browse

Scroll down to the category:
Hunting

Scroll down through Hunting:
About midway of the category

Click on:
Guns

There’s only 1300 or so for sale.

How’s things up commie, 2A default, restrictive New York ?

I know you’re absolutely loving it up there.

You bring your handgun, concealed into NYC?
How about south of you in New Jersey?

Laffin at you, Brother.

BH, that's BS. Why not? Original intent of 2A is the possession of military weapons in the hands of the MILITIA. That's defined as all citizens.

Idiots who want 'common sense gun safety laws' are neither patriots nor conservatives. They are either useful idiots or malevolent collaborators.

Time to live the Constitution as written.

If you're not responsible enough to know which guns you should own, don't own them. But refrain from trying to dictate to me or any other citizen what we have a right to do. People like you masquerading as conservatives on this Forum are worse than the Marxist garbage who at least spew their stupidity in the open.

Enough of this criticizing every comment about the way forward. If someone has a better idea, put it forward or hold your peace.

Trggern,

I can tell from your post that you've had the good fortune of living your entire life in the free society the USA had been until recently.

Those of us who have experienced the imposition of a tyranny, the abrogation of all rights - starting with confiscation of guns to render the people defenseless - beg to differ with your assessment.

Joe's handlers recognize that with the courts neutered through coercive violence, the House and WH in their evil hands, time is of the essence. They also believe that patriots are all talk and no show when it comes to defending our inalienable (GOD GIVEN) rights.

As a start, there will be an all out attack on the 2A, including targeted raids, SWAT assaults on individual gun owners to set an example, a few highly publicized killings of those who resist - portrayed as criminals with arsenals.

It is painful to realize for many of us on this Forum who have spent a lifetime abiding by the Rule of Law to build and defend this Nation that our last few months or years may call on us to defend the Constitutional Republic against these domestic enemies who now may hold power. Although our reason and human nature rail against accepting this reality, "facts are stubborn things," and will not go away regardless of our denials and wishful thinking that it might be otherwise.

You gotta play the hand you're dealt.

Disagree !

Who would the gov't get to fight their battle ?
Military votes R by a wide margin.
Most fly-over country Law Enforcement are Conservatives .

Electronically they could shut us down ?
Turn off whatever they want - how about the Right turns off their power/food/water - and one really crazy guy [named ELMO] destroys anything that looks like a satellite/communication doodad ? So now EVERYBODY is shut down for months .

Military 1.5million how many would arm up ready to kill ? 10% - doubtful , Law Enforcement numbers - WAY WAY too small to even consider going against a big state militia . Especially when the Militia is a Constitutional Force - which IS the law of the land .

LIKE ...........

I just want to be left alone and not robbed of the money I've earned ...

The democrats will soon lead the military under biden.

Martial law should be imposed right now.

Stop this this coup in it's tracks

Expose all the fraud for all to see.

Release all the information on the Biden's corruption.

Let the chips fall as they may.

Hold a fair and legal election and move on

You’re right.

Go for it and good luck, Ruger.

I'm laughing at you because you're too fuuckin stupid to see that every state enforces unconstitutional Federal gun laws. How many guns have you ordered from a catalog or website and had delivered to your door with no background check or paperwork lately ? How many have you got from a La. dealer without background check and paperwork ? How many full auto's ? How many suppressors ? What, none you say ? Thought so dumbass. I have been to NYC once in my life and have no need or desire to ever go to that shythole again. Same for NJ.. You'd have to hold a gun to my head to make me go again.

Truth and the same applies to today’s world including meeting faceless on the internet like right now.

Yeah, Butch, we’ve got lots of Patriots right here on this thread. Sho nuff do.

One who’s perpetually pissed off up New York State way and understandably so being unhappy where he is and too f’kn broke to leave, Sitting there stewing in his own scchitt ‘quoting the Constitution,,,,as it were ‘.

Then we have the old gray wolf who has no idea of what’s happened all around him much less being remotely cognizant of anything regarding Interstate Commerce Laws. And, of course, never mind that according to Thomas Jefferson, “We are a Nation of law’s”. Yeah, fugg all that scchitt.

All of the “keyboard Patriots” here with half of a brain ,,,,let me recommend a movie for you.
“Tough Guys “
Bert Lancaster, Kirk Douglas and Eli Wallach.

That’s what you’ve got here.

I'm not too broke to leave you ass hole. I don't want to leave because all of my siblings, children, grand children and parents are here. Family and the ability to see and spend time with them on a regular basis are important to some of us. More important than money even. You stay down there in the sweltering heat living among all those "groids" and be happy.

We know from lessons of history that the "new" agenda will not ever work and it is just a disguised play for total power and control. Too many of "We the People" are ignorant of history and cannot think for themselves and have been brainwashed by years of ever increasing socialism.. High tech and a media controlled by socialists has increased the pace of the process. We know this is true because we are old and have witnessed depressions, and wars and propaganda.

And to top it all off, how can there be a "We the People" when our votes are irrelevant?

History tells us that this country was founded by a small percentage of its occupiers who risked everything. The struggle for freedom was aided by great sacrifice, strong moral leadership, timely allies, and good luck. It would be hard to repeat in today's world of surveillance cameras and a government swamp determined to retain power.


To fix the few flaws and omissions of the founding structure that got us to this point would be a monumental effort in a country so divided.

It would be worth the effort and risk because the alternative is serfdom

Try it. Commies have never in their bloody history accepted a partial victory. Piles of bones all over the globe bear mute testimony to this fact. Balkanization is a pipe dream.

Only a beta male could possibly dream of ceding territory and treasure of this nation to people who are diametrically opposed to us and our way of life. This land is ours, it was gained through vast amounts of blood and effort, and to think of ceding portions of it to communists so that we can put off a fight is repugnant and a slap in the face to all the men and women who have given everything to make America what it is. Whether you like it or not, it is all or nothing. I feel that way, and believe there are many more like me, and those who oppose us all feel that way. The cuck contingent will be forced to pick a side, in spite of their squeamishness. [/quote]


Wolf, listen up.

Tell that scchitt to California, Oregon, Washington, New York, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Arizona, New Mexico,,,,,there’s more.

You’re living in a Fuggin dream world dude. Wake the f’k up and look all around you.[/quote]

No need to listen up. Heard all your bleating about giving the commies a place of their own on American soil already.

I talk to folks all over the place. Customers, suppliers, realtors, folks at church. and people all over the country I have traveled to meet because we had things in common. I read more than I talk. I am not hiding under a rock. How about you? You looking beyond the guys at your low-T club? Beyond West, W. Fla. Republic? Who are you talking to that thinks giving the commies their own piece of America is the way to go? What gave you the idea you know it all, and that I need to look around? What makes you think you know how people think in the Ozarks, the Appalachians, the Rockies, and the prairies and deserts? Coffee in the morning with the other retirees doesn’t count.
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Question:

Have you looked at number of Blue states that we presently have as of the November elections?

I don’t claim to know it all, Wolf. I only claim that you obviously are totally unawares of the political state of our Nation and repeatedly listen to Louis Satchmo Armstrong’s “I say to myself what a wonderful world “.

Hint:
The commies have already taken their pieces of America and are on their way to claim the rest.

Now let’s hear your “specifics” to reclaim these Blue states. Be specific in your methodology to accomplish this task.[/quote]

So you admit that your idea of ceding territory to the commies is unsustainable. Good on you.

Now, try this. Look at the US map of counties. See all that red? Yeah. The cities can often control the states, and with the current level of fraud, will do so reliably. Not even in dispute. I see it happen all the time, since I am indeed aware of the political situation in this country. Where you and I diverge is you are sitting here hoping for a political solution to the problem. You need to find a way to give those city rats all the freebies the commies promise, while at the same time allowing them the benefits of liberty. Cannot be done, as the two are utterly incompatible. If you want a political solution, you need to figure out how we are going to get representation based on territory controlled, versus the current population scheme. Wrong at its core and a nonstarter.

My position is that the red that covers most of the land mass also grows the food, supplies the electricity and usually water to the cities. We don’t vote the commies out, we starve them out. Nobody ever voted their way out of communism. Ever. It either collapses under its own weight, or it is killed off kinetically by the people, a la Romania. I do not wish to live under communism while people like you come to the realization that we are going to have to fight, or cuck out altogether and wait patiently for it to die a natural death.

I prefer to kill it now. We will never be better armed than we are now. We will never control the food supply as much as we do now. There will never be more freedom oriented citizens than now. The right in this nation needs to come together and refuse to cooperate with leftist areas altogether. No power, no freight, no nothing from us. Our territory needs to become absolutely hostile to leftists. They should not feel safe outside their enclaves. They should find themselves surrounded and cut off by an implacable and relentless nation. Thus, they can be forced to a negotiating mindset, and then, we push them to the edge of extinction, or farther, once we have the control of our own land again. You do not treat communists fairly. You bleed them to death in every way possible. If we expect fair play from these bastards, we are already lost. It is an existential fight, and those are not won politically. It's why nations have armies. We are on the edge of being politically insignificant in real terms. What is your plan for that? Other than losing, of course.





Hey, Bro, come on down to 2A Sanctuary Louisiana.

Let me take you there

Via:

www.louisianasportsman.com

Click on:
Classifieds

Click on:
Browse

Scroll down to the category:
Hunting

Scroll down through Hunting:
About midway of the category

Click on:
Guns

There’s only 1300 or so for sale.

How’s things up commie, 2A default, restrictive New York ?

I know you’re absolutely loving it up there.

You bring your handgun, concealed into NYC?
How about south of you in New Jersey?

Laffin at you, Brother.
[/quote] I'm laughing at you because you're too fuuckin stupid to see that every state enforces unconstitutional Federal gun laws. How many guns have you ordered from a catalog or website and had delivered to your door with no background check or paperwork lately ? How many have you got from a La. dealer without background check and paperwork ? How many full auto's ? What, none you say ? Thought so dumbass. I have been to NYC once in my life and have no need or desire to ever go to that shythole again. Same for NJ.. You'd have to hold a gun to my head to make me go again.
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Please allow me to summarize answers for some of your dumbassed questions regarding Louisiana and the source that I gave you to view and that seemed to have upset you badly. I can understand why it upset you living up In Scchittville, New York but pay attention, please.

1. Gun Show Loophole.
2. I have 2 acquaintances that have a Class 3 license .
3. I have multiple acquaintances that own and use Supressors.

Any other dumbassed questions?

I don't doubt that you have acquaintances that have a class 3 license. Those licenses are my point retard.

I’m glad to know that you’re financially well off and happy in situ.. Thanks for that info.

If I could get them all to go with me I'd leave. It wouldn't be very far South though. I can't stand the heat and am used to having millions of acres of State land close by to hunt, shoot, fish and wander on.

My.
How nice.

Folks like you are exactly where you need to be so do Enjoy and by all means don’t bring your Yankee scchitt South. We’d appreciate that kind consideration from your type.

Ohhhh, I failed to mention. My Whitetail deer season,,,,,runs from October 1st on out to January 31st.

Blackheart, most people don't know the real New York, y'all are just redneck Yankees. Taxes and gun issues are the only reason we don't live up there.

It is a beautiful State and you are dead center correct in what you’ve said.

Big cities in every state are the tail that wags the dog, New York being Exhibit A.

As the old humorist, Brother Dave Gardner, used to say, “there ain’t nothing wrong with the Country cept’n the f’kn Cities “.

Ben Franklin warned us of the same thing that when people crowd up in the cities we’d become just like Europe.

Witness the fact.

That is a grand plan. But our internal Socialists number about 150 million. Citizens we would have to deport or kill.

We can not even drive out 10 million foreign invaders.

A big dose of reality here.

Well said.

Having lived here all my life and therefore having nothing else to compare to, I guess I've gotten used to the taxes. Don't like it but not much I can do about it. I figure it would cost me the difference in lease fee's to hunt and fish in some of the Southern states and I still wouldn't have access to near as much land to hunt. You all pay some rediculous amounts to hunt down there. I've never paid anything more than license, gas and cartridges in my life. I couldn't stand being limited to hunting the same few hundred acres year after year like some do either. The boredom would make me quit. With three safes full of guns and more in every corner, closet and drawer in every room except the kitchen and bath, it seems like I'll have enough to get me through. I also don't like the fact that the Liberal city folks control the politics of this State but they outnumber us upstate rednecks so not much I can do about that either. If it were up to upstate voters, NY would be red. The same situation is coming to every State. It's just a matter of time and it won't be as long as some would like to think. Georgia and Texas are on the brink so it isn't just a "yankee" thing any more.

hold up till around January 20th maybe ? we may see something that has never happened in our life time .this election is not over yet ,[bleep] is going to hit the fan !

The real problem in this nation is that McArthy got shut down. He was a true prophet and saw where the Communists were going to take this nation. Our 1'st Amendment is the very heart of this nation. It also has proved to be our undoing.

We have been dismantled from within just as Lenin predicted.

Today, we have 150 million socialists declaring they are "We the People".
That number is growing every year by leaps and bounds.

As long as gasoline burns you can still access hundreds of thousands of public hunting acreage and chase several different species doing it. Yours is no excuse. But that does require thought, planning and financial resources (of which you’re obviously flush with).

And it is a “ yankee “ thing that has spread like the very cancer that it is. Ask anyone native to southern states all the way down I-95.

We’ll see.

Maybe you heard Mitch McConnell yesterday, perhaps ?

Wait till Biden and Harris start taking down what’s been constructed on our southern border.

The coup continues along as the traitors are free. No rule of law. Multiple standards exist. I figure about 70% of the people are conservative but close to 25% are the cheating, lying, and thieving anti-American liberal socialist communist marxist politicians.

It's not the Northern border millions of new socialists came and are still coming across. The vast majority of the "yankee" communists you've got migrating south are liberal citiots, not rednecks from upstate New York. And no, I'm not rich, so can't afford to go trotting all over the country to hunt. Just a blue collar working stiff my whole life. You got something against that punk ? At least I wasn't trotting all over China working with those bat eating, disease spreading, communist enemies of the US to make a lavish living like some people here.

And Lodges.

😉

So mote it be.