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So you don't honor GCA '34 and GCA '68 there and the state allows you to buy a gun without any paperwork or background check ? How about full auto's, sawed off shotguns and suppressors without getting permission from the Feds and paying their tax ? I didn't think so. Meaning you'd have to not honor those Federal gun laws if your state were to legitimately declare itself a 2A sanctuary and "follow the constitution as written" like you suggested.

Anyone that has their fu.cking eyes and ears open and is paying attention would stop, STFU, quit blaming each other and realize our states have been illegally and unconstitutionally taken over through corruption! Either endemic corruption like the buying and ownership of politicians or outright, intentional election fraud or in many cases both!

If corruption was stopped overnight we wouldn’t recognize this country tomorrow.....it would be beautiful!

It’s coming. This country is going to be saved by President Trump!

This BS has been needing fixing since 2008 if not before and here we are still just talking. Trump won and we let him fight our battles for 4 years and no one jumped in to help him. Just the opposite happened and we just sat on our hands while our country was being burned and looted. I know I'm a pussy because I won't lead the charge.

The trouble with leading the charge is that you'd look back and there'd be nobody behind you. Then your dead ass would be labeled a nut case on the nightly news and the big, tough, internet patriots that should have been behind you would be nodding in agreement while they slurped down another beer from the lazy boy.

Very true Blackheart, but I'm willing to give my life for my kids liberty and freedoms, but I'd like to not waste it. Personally I think the armed services need to stand down and let us sort it out ourselves.

So what did Trump need from us? Everywhere I've went for the past year I've worn that red hat. Strangers came up to me of all ages telling me they like the hat. My reaction was that we need Donald Trump and he needs our help. They agreed. How did they vote? Don't know. I would like to do more and will when I see I can.

What we lack in this fight is divine leadership. My Founding Fathers, yes mine, had that. We need to seek that first. Now before any of you get all bent out of shape over separation of church and state think about when our real trouble began. Why not at least give it a try. Do we have anything to lose?

May we be so lucky. And be up to the job.

President Trump might be building a case for 2018 Executive Order 13848 Imposing...nterference in a United States Election.

“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” ― Abraham Lincoln

“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”― Edmund Burke

We The People:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOkkWIOkWl8&feature=emb_logo

Question:

Have you looked at number of Blue states that we presently have as of the November elections?

I don’t claim to know it all, Wolf. I only claim that you obviously are totally unawares of the political state of our Nation and repeatedly listen to Louis Satchmo Armstrong’s “I say to myself what a wonderful world “.

Hint:
The commies have already taken their pieces of America and are on their way to claim the rest.

Now let’s hear your “specifics” to reclaim these Blue states. Be specific in your methodology to accomplish this task.

Leadership:

1. All states that voted for Trump should immediately declare and put into law that they are 2A Sanctuary States and will follow the Constitution as written.

That’s a beginning.[/quote] They'd have to ignore/repeal every gun law on the books. Never happen. Even 99% of conservatives wouldn't be able to handle/condone just anybody having access to and the unfettered right to bear/carry whatever gun they want.
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Blackheart, I can see what you’ve said applying in a state like New York but do recall that many states ignored federal laws, thumbing their noses at the feds as it concerns immigration, Sanctuary cities, Sanctuary States and dope laws.

The precedents have been well established.

Those of us who live in solidly Red States like I do already have those laws of protection on the books.

It would all depend upon your locale.[/quote] So you think every conservative in your state would be fine with no gun laws ? No paperwork to fill out, no background check, order a gun and have it delivered to your door, no restrictions on who can carry where, suppressors, SBR's, sawed off shotguns and full auto for all ? You're living in fantasy land if you do.
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That’s not at all what I said or even implied.

The fantasy land that you speak of is in New York.

Try again and with less diversions.[/quote] No diversions. There are no constitutionally legitimate gun laws that I'm aware of. "The right of the people" and "shall not be infringed" are absolute with no exceptions. Any law or regulation is an infringement. Therefore, those red Trump states that you said should "declare and put into law that they are 2A sanctuaries and will follow the constitution as written" would have to repeal/ignore all gun laws currently on the books. So to wrap this up, that is exactly what you said and implied.
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Louisiana doesn’t have to repeal any single law at all Blackheart.

Now, your state of New York is a totally different ball of wax as is most northern coastal states.

Put another way, it’s too late for you guys. Period.[/quote] So you don't honor GCA '34 and GCA '68 there and the state allows you to buy a gun without any paperwork or background check ? How about full auto's, sawed off shotguns and suppressors without getting permission from the Feds and paying their tax ? I didn't think so. Meaning you'd have to not honor those Federal gun laws if your state were to legitimately declare itself a 2A sanctuary and "follow the constitution as written" like you suggested.
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No scchitt, Bro?

While we’re talking hit Bing, e.g., and type in something like,,,

2A Sanctuary counties map

Get back to me or send an email to each of the counties and tell them why they cannot do that.

I’ll wait.

What a laugh. We've got counties here in upstate NY that have declared themselves "2A sanctuary". It's a fuggin joke. One reason being they still abide by most of the gun laws on the books. You still can't buy a gun without jumping through the unconstitutional gov't hoops. Those counties sheriff's departments have declared that they won't enforce the SAFE act but have no problem enforcing the thousands of other unconstitutional state and federal gun laws on the books. It's bogus bullshyt. You are being intentionally obtuse on this or you're just plain stupid, one or the other. In either case, it's not worth the time to continue this discussion.

The internet organizing can be shut down. There are local face to face groups that have organized. Our local one is http://www.bcpphp.berkscountypatriots.org/mission-statement.html

They have signs and small billboards up all around Berks county inviting people to get involved

All bogus and obtuse, eh?
I can see why you don’t won’t to continue.

Have a good one and merry Christmas.

Watch out for paid infiltrators like hit the TEA party.
Rats abound.

power to the people

Yes that is a danger . But we can paralyse ourselves to inaction by concentrating on every danger

So you admit that your idea of ceding territory to the commies is unsustainable. Good on you.

Now, try this. Look at the US map of counties. See all that red? Yeah. The cities can often control the states, and with the current level of fraud, will do so reliably. Not even in dispute. I see it happen all the time, since I am indeed aware of the political situation in this country. Where you and I diverge is you are sitting here hoping for a political solution to the problem. You need to find a way to give those city rats all the freebies the commies promise, while at the same time allowing them the benefits of liberty. Cannot be done, as the two are utterly incompatible. If you want a political solution, you need to figure out how we are going to get representation based on territory controlled, versus the current population scheme. Wrong at its core and a nonstarter.

My position is that the red that covers most of the land mass also grows the food, supplies the electricity and usually water to the cities. We don’t vote the commies out, we starve them out. Nobody ever voted their way out of communism. Ever. It either collapses under its own weight, or it is killed off kinetically by the people, a la Romania. I do not wish to live under communism while people like you come to the realization that we are going to have to fight, or cuck out altogether and wait patiently for it to die a natural death.

I prefer to kill it now. We will never be better armed than we are now. We will never control the food supply as much as we do now. There will never be more freedom oriented citizens than now. The right in this nation needs to come together and refuse to cooperate with leftist areas altogether. No power, no freight, no nothing from us. Our territory needs to become absolutely hostile to leftists. They should not feel safe outside their enclaves. They should find themselves surrounded and cut off by an implacable and relentless nation. Thus, they can be forced to a negotiating mindset, and then, we push them to the edge of extinction, or farther, once we have the control of our own land again. You do not treat communists fairly. You bleed them to death in every way possible. If we expect fair play from these bastards, we are already lost. It is an existential fight, and those are not won politically. It's why nations have armies. We are on the edge of being politically insignificant in real terms. What is your plan for that? Other than losing, of course.

Exactly. And I believe most of their assault will come in the form of additional taxes...on incomes, property, and things they don't like such as firearms and ammo.