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When you realize that you are old and are being replaced by people who do not share your values, it begins to be obvious why the country we loved does not exist.
We know from lessons of history that the "new" agenda will not ever work and it is just a disguised play for total power and control. Too many of "We the People" are ignorant of history and cannot think for themselves and have been brainwashed by years of ever increasing socialism.. High tech and a media controlled by socialists has increased the pace of the process. We know this is true because we are old and have witnessed depressions, and wars and propaganda.
And to top it all off, how can there be a "We the People" when our votes are irrelevant?
History tells us that this country was founded by a small percentage of its occupiers who risked everything. The struggle for freedom was aided by great sacrifice, strong moral leadership, timely allies, and good luck. It would be hard to repeat in today's world of surveillance cameras and a government swamp determined to retain power.
To fix the few flaws and omissions of the founding structure that got us to this point would be a monumental effort in a country so divided.
It would be worth the effort and risk because the alternative is serfdom. .
The alternative at this stage of the game is very simple. Balkanization. Try it. Commies have never in their bloody history accepted a partial victory. Piles of bones all over the globe bear mute testimony to this fact. Balkanization is a pipe dream. Only a beta male could possibly dream of ceding territory and treasure of this nation to people who are diametrically opposed to us and our way of life. This land is ours, it was gained through vast amounts of blood and effort, and to think of ceding portions of it to communists so that we can put off a fight is repugnant and a slap in the face to all the men and women who have given everything to make America what it is. Whether you like it or not, it is all or nothing. I feel that way, and believe there are many more like me, and those who oppose us all feel that way. The cuck contingent will be forced to pick a side, in spite of their squeamishness.
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We The People..
What happened that "We The People" are no longer relevant.
When did we give up our voice to be heard?
Have we forgot that we are the in the majority and politicians work for us?
Why do we stand for tyranny of our government?
Why do we let lies and blatant fraud stand?
Are we truly sheep and accept what we are told with no recourse?
Why are we allowing politicians to block access to facts that would allow the people to determine what's right or wrong?
Why is the Constitution no longer the basis of our Country's way of life?
I'm sick of backroom deals being made, and sick of money buying our "representatives" to undermine our rights and freedoms for the sake of their personal gain.
We once revolted against "Taxation Without Representation".
I think that time has come once more... Agree fully...
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We The People..
What happened that "We The People" are no longer relevant.
When did we give up our voice to be heard?
Have we forgot that we are the in the majority and politicians work for us?
Why do we stand for tyranny of our government?
Why do we let lies and blatant fraud stand?
Are we truly sheep and accept what we are told with no recourse?
Why are we allowing politicians to block access to facts that would allow the people to determine what's right or wrong?
Why is the Constitution no longer the basis of our Country's way of life?
I'm sick of backroom deals being made, and sick of money buying our "representatives" to undermine our rights and freedoms for the sake of their personal gain.
We once revolted against "Taxation Without Representation".
I think that time has come once more... Your plan going forward is,,,,,,,,,? Nice speech, though. #1 Unify...One man can't do it alone #2 Identify the problem or process #3 Prepare a response #4 Initiate accordingly #5 Be relentless, demand action to resolve
The beatings will continue until morale improves
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It’s time to WAKE UP GOD BLESS THE USA WWG1WGA THERE ARE NO COINCIDENCES
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We The People..
What happened that "We The People" are no longer relevant.
When did we give up our voice to be heard?
Have we forgot that we are the in the majority and politicians work for us?
Why do we stand for tyranny of our government?
Why do we let lies and blatant fraud stand?
Are we truly sheep and accept what we are told with no recourse?
Why are we allowing politicians to block access to facts that would allow the people to determine what's right or wrong?
Why is the Constitution no longer the basis of our Country's way of life?
I'm sick of backroom deals being made, and sick of money buying our "representatives" to undermine our rights and freedoms for the sake of their personal gain.
We once revolted against "Taxation Without Representation".
I think that time has come once more... Your plan going forward is,,,,,,,,,? Nice speech, though. #1 Unify...One man can't do it alone #2 Identify the problem or process #3 Prepare a response #4 Initiate accordingly #5 Be relentless, demand action to resolve Tuts is like talking to block wall. So dense she has to get info from the “news”. LOL
FUGK CCP
It’s time to WAKE UP GOD BLESS THE USA WWG1WGA THERE ARE NO COINCIDENCES
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We need leadership, a plan and the end objective needs to be known to all. All Media will be shut down if the people ever cbegin to organize. Organizing is the problem. So gaming dope head basement dwellers can organize but we can’t.. ? Gotcha
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It’s time to WAKE UP GOD BLESS THE USA WWG1WGA THERE ARE NO COINCIDENCES
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We The People..
What happened that "We The People" are no longer relevant.
When did we give up our voice to be heard?
Have we forgot that we are the in the majority and politicians work for us?
Why do we stand for tyranny of our government?
Why do we let lies and blatant fraud stand?
Are we truly sheep and accept what we are told with no recourse?
Why are we allowing politicians to block access to facts that would allow the people to determine what's right or wrong?
Why is the Constitution no longer the basis of our Country's way of life?
I'm sick of backroom deals being made, and sick of money buying our "representatives" to undermine our rights and freedoms for the sake of their personal gain.
We once revolted against "Taxation Without Representation".
I think that time has come once more... Your plan going forward is,,,,,,,,,? Nice speech, though. #1 Unify...One man can't do it alone #2 Identify the problem or process #3 Prepare a response #4 Initiate accordingly #5 Be relentless, demand action to resolve All nice words. How, when and where does it all start? Who leads off? What is the genesis of it? One more for ya. Gonna run down to Bass Pro for some more ammunition? Cabelas, maybe? Those are the f’ckn questions.
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
What we've learned from history is that we haven't learned from it.
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We The People..
What happened that "We The People" are no longer relevant.
When did we give up our voice to be heard?
Have we forgot that we are the in the majority and politicians work for us?
Why do we stand for tyranny of our government?
Why do we let lies and blatant fraud stand?
Are we truly sheep and accept what we are told with no recourse?
Why are we allowing politicians to block access to facts that would allow the people to determine what's right or wrong?
Why is the Constitution no longer the basis of our Country's way of life?
I'm sick of backroom deals being made, and sick of money buying our "representatives" to undermine our rights and freedoms for the sake of their personal gain.
We once revolted against "Taxation Without Representation".
I think that time has come once more... Your plan going forward is,,,,,,,,,? Nice speech, though. #1 Unify...One man can't do it alone #2 Identify the problem or process #3 Prepare a response #4 Initiate accordingly #5 Be relentless, demand action to resolve Tuts is like talking to block wall. So dense she has to get info from the “news”. LOL Actually, Flave, I get it from the buzzard and he gets it from the dead man so I’m about last on the list.
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
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[align:center][/align] When you realize that you are old and are being replaced by people who do not share your values, it begins to be obvious why the country we loved does not exist.
We know from lessons of history that the "new" agenda will not ever work and it is just a disguised play for total power and control. Too many of "We the People" are ignorant of history and cannot think for themselves and have been brainwashed by years of ever increasing socialism.. High tech and a media controlled by socialists has increased the pace of the process. We know this is true because we are old and have witnessed depressions, and wars and propaganda.
And to top it all off, how can there be a "We the People" when our votes are irrelevant?
History tells us that this country was founded by a small percentage of its occupiers who risked everything. The struggle for freedom was aided by great sacrifice, strong moral leadership, timely allies, and good luck. It would be hard to repeat in today's world of surveillance cameras and a government swamp determined to retain power.
To fix the few flaws and omissions of the founding structure that got us to this point would be a monumental effort in a country so divided.
It would be worth the effort and risk because the alternative is serfdom. .
The alternative at this stage of the game is very simple. Balkanization. Try it. Commies have never in their bloody history accepted a partial victory. Piles of bones all over the globe bear mute testimony to this fact. Balkanization is a pipe dream. Only a beta male could possibly dream of ceding territory and treasure of this nation to people who are diametrically opposed to us and our way of life. This land is ours, it was gained through vast amounts of blood and effort, and to think of ceding portions of it to communists so that we can put off a fight is repugnant and a slap in the face to all the men and women who have given everything to make America what it is. Whether you like it or not, it is all or nothing. I feel that way, and believe there are many more like me, and those who oppose us all feel that way. The cuck contingent will be forced to pick a side, in spite of their squeamishness. GR
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It's not just media. These days it only takes a few keystrokes to shut down your life. Leadership: 1. All states that voted for Trump should immediately declare and put into law that they are 2A Sanctuary States and will follow the Constitution as written. That’s a beginning. They'd have to ignore/repeal every gun law on the books. Never happen. Even 99% of conservatives wouldn't be able to handle/condone just anybody having access to and the unfettered right to bear/carry whatever gun they want. Blackheart, I can see what you’ve said applying in a state like New York but do recall that many states ignored federal laws, thumbing their noses at the feds as it concerns immigration, Sanctuary cities, Sanctuary States and dope laws. The precedents have been well established. Those of us who live in solidly Red States like I do already have those laws of protection on the books. It would all depend upon your locale. So you think every conservative in your state would be fine with no gun laws ? No paperwork to fill out, no background check, order a gun and have it delivered to your door, no restrictions on who can carry where, suppressors, SBR's, sawed off shotguns and full auto for all ? You're living in fantasy land if you do.
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When you realize that you are old and are being replaced by people who do not share your values, it begins to be obvious why the country we loved does not exist.
We know from lessons of history that the "new" agenda will not ever work and it is just a disguised play for total power and control. Too many of "We the People" are ignorant of history and cannot think for themselves and have been brainwashed by years of ever increasing socialism.. High tech and a media controlled by socialists has increased the pace of the process. We know this is true because we are old and have witnessed depressions, and wars and propaganda.
And to top it all off, how can there be a "We the People" when our votes are irrelevant?
History tells us that this country was founded by a small percentage of its occupiers who risked everything. The struggle for freedom was aided by great sacrifice, strong moral leadership, timely allies, and good luck. It would be hard to repeat in today's world of surveillance cameras and a government swamp determined to retain power.
To fix the few flaws and omissions of the founding structure that got us to this point would be a monumental effort in a country so divided.
It would be worth the effort and risk because the alternative is serfdom. .
The alternative at this stage of the game is very simple. Balkanization. Try it. Commies have never in their bloody history accepted a partial victory. Piles of bones all over the globe bear mute testimony to this fact. Balkanization is a pipe dream. Only a beta male could possibly dream of ceding territory and treasure of this nation to people who are diametrically opposed to us and our way of life. This land is ours, it was gained through vast amounts of blood and effort, and to think of ceding portions of it to communists so that we can put off a fight is repugnant and a slap in the face to all the men and women who have given everything to make America what it is. Whether you like it or not, it is all or nothing. I feel that way, and believe there are many more like me, and those who oppose us all feel that way. The cuck contingent will be forced to pick a side, in spite of their squeamishness. Wolf, listen up. Tell that scchitt to California, Oregon, Washington, New York, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Arizona, New Mexico,,,,,there’s more. You’re living in a Fuggin dream world dude. Wake the f’k up and look all around you.
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
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We The People..
What happened that "We The People" are no longer relevant.
When did we give up our voice to be heard?
Have we forgot that we are the in the majority and politicians work for us?
Why do we stand for tyranny of our government?
Why do we let lies and blatant fraud stand?
Are we truly sheep and accept what we are told with no recourse?
Why are we allowing politicians to block access to facts that would allow the people to determine what's right or wrong?
Why is the Constitution no longer the basis of our Country's way of life?
I'm sick of backroom deals being made, and sick of money buying our "representatives" to undermine our rights and freedoms for the sake of their personal gain.
We once revolted against "Taxation Without Representation".
I think that time has come once more... Your plan going forward is,,,,,,,,,? Nice speech, though. #1 Unify...One man can't do it alone #2 Identify the problem or process #3 Prepare a response #4 Initiate accordingly #5 Be relentless, demand action to resolve All nice words. How, when and where does it all start? Who leads off? What is the genesis of it? One more for ya. Gonna run down to Bass Pro for some more ammunition? Cabelas, maybe? Those are the f’ckn questions. It starts with like minded people discussing among themselves and others...
The beatings will continue until morale improves
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It's not just media. These days it only takes a few keystrokes to shut down your life. Leadership: 1. All states that voted for Trump should immediately declare and put into law that they are 2A Sanctuary States and will follow the Constitution as written. That’s a beginning. They'd have to ignore/repeal every gun law on the books. Never happen. Even 99% of conservatives wouldn't be able to handle/condone just anybody having access to and the unfettered right to bear/carry whatever gun they want. Blackheart, I can see what you’ve said applying in a state like New York but do recall that many states ignored federal laws, thumbing their noses at the feds as it concerns immigration, Sanctuary cities, Sanctuary States and dope laws. The precedents have been well established. Those of us who live in solidly Red States like I do already have those laws of protection on the books. It would all depend upon your locale. So you think every conservative in your state would be fine with no gun laws ? No paperwork to fill out, no background check, order a gun and have it delivered to your door, no restrictions on who can carry where, suppressors, SBR's, sawed off shotguns and full auto for all ? You're living in fantasy land if you do. The failure of Adult Responsibility - is not the part of either the Constitution of the United States or its Civil Society. GR
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We The People..
What happened that "We The People" are no longer relevant.
When did we give up our voice to be heard?
Have we forgot that we are the in the majority and politicians work for us?
Why do we stand for tyranny of our government?
Why do we let lies and blatant fraud stand?
Are we truly sheep and accept what we are told with no recourse?
Why are we allowing politicians to block access to facts that would allow the people to determine what's right or wrong?
Why is the Constitution no longer the basis of our Country's way of life?
I'm sick of backroom deals being made, and sick of money buying our "representatives" to undermine our rights and freedoms for the sake of their personal gain.
We once revolted against "Taxation Without Representation".
I think that time has come once more... Your plan going forward is,,,,,,,,,? Nice speech, though. #1 Unify...One man can't do it alone #2 Identify the problem or process #3 Prepare a response #4 Initiate accordingly #5 Be relentless, demand action to resolve All nice words. How, when and where does it all start? Who leads off? What is the genesis of it? One more for ya. Gonna run down to Bass Pro for some more ammunition? Cabelas, maybe? Those are the f’ckn questions. It starts with like minded people discussing among themselves and others... All so nice and touchy feely. Answer the Fuggin questions and let’s go from there. Quit your damned dwaddling and get down to the mechanics of it.
The degree of my privacy is no business of yours.
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It's not just media. These days it only takes a few keystrokes to shut down your life. Leadership: 1. All states that voted for Trump should immediately declare and put into law that they are 2A Sanctuary States and will follow the Constitution as written. That’s a beginning. They'd have to ignore/repeal every gun law on the books. Never happen. Even 99% of conservatives wouldn't be able to handle/condone just anybody having access to and the unfettered right to bear/carry whatever gun they want. Blackheart, I can see what you’ve said applying in a state like New York but do recall that many states ignored federal laws, thumbing their noses at the feds as it concerns immigration, Sanctuary cities, Sanctuary States and dope laws. The precedents have been well established. Those of us who live in solidly Red States like I do already have those laws of protection on the books. It would all depend upon your locale. So you think every conservative in your state would be fine with no gun laws ? No paperwork to fill out, no background check, order a gun and have it delivered to your door, no restrictions on who can carry where, suppressors, SBR's, sawed off shotguns and full auto for all ? You're living in fantasy land if you do. That’s not at all what I said or even implied. The fantasy land that you speak of is in New York. Try again and with less diversions.
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Knowing something is wrong, and taking actions that would be dangerous and could cost you everything, are two very different things.
Most people are not willing to 'go there' until they feel they have nothing left to lose.
As a population, we have not felt any real pain being inflicted upon us by our govt.
If/when that type of pain becomes clear and palpable to the masses, then a hostile reaction will be organic.
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It's not just media. These days it only takes a few keystrokes to shut down your life. Leadership: 1. All states that voted for Trump should immediately declare and put into law that they are 2A Sanctuary States and will follow the Constitution as written. That’s a beginning. They'd have to ignore/repeal every gun law on the books. Never happen. Even 99% of conservatives wouldn't be able to handle/condone just anybody having access to and the unfettered right to bear/carry whatever gun they want. Blackheart, I can see what you’ve said applying in a state like New York but do recall that many states ignored federal laws, thumbing their noses at the feds as it concerns immigration, Sanctuary cities, Sanctuary States and dope laws. The precedents have been well established. Those of us who live in solidly Red States like I do already have those laws of protection on the books. It would all depend upon your locale. So you think every conservative in your state would be fine with no gun laws ? No paperwork to fill out, no background check, order a gun and have it delivered to your door, no restrictions on who can carry where, suppressors, SBR's, sawed off shotguns and full auto for all ? You're living in fantasy land if you do. The failure of Adult Responsibility - is not the part of either the Constitution of the United States or its Civil Society. GR Most people today can't handle, don't want and even fear the freedoms guaranteed in the BOR..
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So you think every conservative in your state would be fine with no gun laws ? No paperwork to fill out, no background check, order a gun and have it delivered to your door, no restrictions on who can carry where, suppressors, SBR's, sawed off shotguns and full auto for all ? You're living in fantasy land if you do.
And that is the basis of the problem that America as an ideal and a nation faces today: NO ONE actually supports Liberty or the Constitution or the Rule of Law. And you've laid out the case for why "I just vote Red" doesn't and won't solve schit. You think this is all happenstance? Coincidence? That of the two main political parties in the US, neither supports the ideals upon which this nation was founded?
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It's not just media. These days it only takes a few keystrokes to shut down your life. Leadership: 1. All states that voted for Trump should immediately declare and put into law that they are 2A Sanctuary States and will follow the Constitution as written. That’s a beginning. They'd have to ignore/repeal every gun law on the books. Never happen. Even 99% of conservatives wouldn't be able to handle/condone just anybody having access to and the unfettered right to bear/carry whatever gun they want. Blackheart, I can see what you’ve said applying in a state like New York but do recall that many states ignored federal laws, thumbing their noses at the feds as it concerns immigration, Sanctuary cities, Sanctuary States and dope laws. The precedents have been well established. Those of us who live in solidly Red States like I do already have those laws of protection on the books. It would all depend upon your locale. So you think every conservative in your state would be fine with no gun laws ? No paperwork to fill out, no background check, order a gun and have it delivered to your door, no restrictions on who can carry where, suppressors, SBR's, sawed off shotguns and full auto for all ? You're living in fantasy land if you do. That’s not at all what I said or even implied. The fantasy land that you speak of is in New York. Try again and with less diversions. No diversions. There are no constitutionally legitimate gun laws that I'm aware of. "The right of the people" and "shall not be infringed" are absolute with no exceptions. Any law or regulation is an infringement. Therefore, those red Trump states that you said should "declare and put into law that they are 2A sanctuaries and will follow the constitution as written" would have to repeal/ignore all gun laws currently on the books. So to wrap this up, that is exactly what you said and implied.
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The logistics of dismantling a tyrannical govt today aren't the same as they were in 1800. They are what you would call "entrenched" to the tenth power, have every resource known to man at their disposal to quell a patriotic uprising.
We have jobs and mortgages, and no slaves to maintain the plantation while we go away to war. Electronically they could shut our life down in about 30 seconds, and that was not a concern 250 years ago. Back then it was everyone on equal terms with simple geography, weather, and troop numbers the determining factors in the outcome. Now, they hold all the power.
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