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64 days of angst for Trump supporters.
Think back to 2016, when Trump was “undermining” the Constitution by threatening not to concede the election.
He fully expected voter fraud then, and it would have been incredibly stupid not to expect more of the same in 2020. The democrats, with the help of spineless republicans, have been using voter fraud to win elections for two decades or more.
With all the accusations against Trump, two charges that haven’t been made against him are being spineless or incredibly stupid.
As President, DJT has the power to lay a trap to catch them in the act.
Trump had to let this election fraud happen as it did in order to prove to the American People what most of us have suspected for years. Now he’s got the proof.
I think maybe he overestimated the support he’d get from the republicans, but I also think there’s enough republicans that are either honest enough or afraid of voter backlash to back him up.
One thing I am absolutely certain of, is that if he, and We The People, allow this election to stand as the corrupt judges and media expect, we’ll never see another fair election in this country.
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Yes, I still believe President Trump will prevail. What he has been doing, with a lot of help, is uncovering the rat bastards in both parties...the establishment politicians, bureaucrats and the communists.
I am with you... but everyday I watch more and more people chase the shiny beads of distraction.
Agree completely with all you said, and I deeply and fervently hope you are right. It angers me to rage that I risked my life to defend this nation from Marxism only to have that odious system voted in by fraud and blatant criminal acts.
Everything said here is all true and I pray that after all is said and done that Trump is president. But what if they pull this off and biden is sworn in? You say we can't let this happen. Well nothing short of millions of us armed surrounding the capital is going to change anything.

As Mr. Cash just said "I am with you... but everyday I watch more and more people chase the shiny beads of distraction." That's the reality we face.
Rudy is meeting with the Republican house and senate members providing them the evidence they will use to object to Bidens electors. I don't see with the projected 2 hour debates per state the CAT FIGHT" in both chambers to end on the 6th unless Mitch and Nancy change the debate rules which they undoubtedly will.
Ijust got thru watching (Heres the evidence) on tv it is on several stations. very informative. went to the websites they call for . economic war room , every legal vote , and sent off piles of emails . just an fyi . not sure if it has been brought up or no .
7mmbuster: I certainly hope and pray you are right.
Either way the fraudulent elections just past, were/are an absolute travesty of justice, that could EASILY have been avoided - and those elections were/are an embarrassment to this once wonderful country.
The criminal/evil/morally bankrupt demonrats have discovered an illegal way to perpetuate their mad and evil power-grabbing.
The evil that they got away with (so far!) WILL spread!
Hoping for the best.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy
What proof? Still waiting for that crackin or was it craklins, or just crack.
Originally Posted by Jim1611
Everything said here is all true and I pray that after all is said and done that Trump is president. But what if they pull this off and biden is sworn in? You say we can't let this happen. Well nothing short of millions of us armed surrounding the capital is going to change anything.
That's the reality we face.

Armed militia cleaning out DC is long overdue, IMHO! grin Trouble is, nobody wants to be the instigator, myself included! frown
I think the guy we hired to do the cleaning 4 years ago is well on his way to just that! He may need our physical help to do it. I got nothing else planned, but I’m an old man now.
I won’t be one of the ones who answer “nothing” when my grandkids ask me what I did to prevent the communist takeover.
Another thing I’ll guarantee is that stopping the fraud won’t cure the problem. Those who conspired to commit this treason must be prosecuted and punished. Wether it’s done through the courts or by lamppost and rope remains to be seen...
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Originally Posted by RockyRaab
Agree completely with all you said, and I deeply and fervently hope you are right. It angers me to rage that I risked my life to defend this nation from Marxism only to have that odious system voted in by fraud and blatant criminal acts.

Completely agee.
Fuggedaboudit!

To reject the Electors' votes requires a majority vote of both Houses of Congress. Does anyone think the House of Repesentatives will vote to throw out the Electoral votes?

The law gives Pence the power to preside over the opening of the electoral votes. It does not give him any power to throw any of them out.

So stick a fork in President Trump. He's done. Biden will be President. Not my preference but you have to face reality.

Just pray that the two Republicans can win in Georgia. If they do, we can hold off the socialists for awhile. We have a good chance to take back the House in 2022, especially with all the state legislatures that went Republican in 2020 and will control the redistricting. Trump or some worthy successor can run in 2024.
The democrats alone ain’t the problem.
The Chinese Communist are in this up to their eyeballs. That’s one of the things that worries me should it come to civil war.
Trump has cost the CCP billions by trying to even the field regarding trade. The democrats, and quite a few republicans have been their willing tools.
This is outright TREASON!
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Originally Posted by 7mmbuster
The democrats alone ain’t the problem.
The Chinese Communist are in this up to their eyeballs. That’s one of the things that worries me should it come to civil war.
Trump has cost the CCP billions by trying to even the field regarding trade. The democrats, and quite a few republicans have been their willing tools.
This is outright TREASON!
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Yep!
It takes a special kind of stupid to think that you can overcome election fraud by winning another election. For Christ’s sakes, how can some of you think we can win in two or four years, after allowing fraud on this scale?
It’s now or never. Freedom isn’t free.
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the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
It is it’s natural manure
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Originally Posted by 7mmbuster
One thing I am absolutely certain of, is that if he, and We The People, allow this election to stand as the corrupt judges and media expect, we’ll never see another fair election in this country.
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Absolutely.
The Trump Presidency is over. The Republican Party will focus on extpanding voter base (notably Hispanics), therefore, Trump and his most radical supporters can not be allowed to get in a way of that endeavor. The effort will be lead by moderates of the party often called RINOs here. They can not continue to float stories of mass voter fraud to hide the fact that their voter pool is decreasing from election to election.
Trump, not the party, has expanded the base, especially among minorities, more than any one else.

So, how ya reckon said party is gonna do what they never have been able to do before. And, how will getting rid of the “rainmaker” gonna make it rain?

DF
Dear God, let it be so. Amen.
Originally Posted by 7mmbuster
It takes a special kind of stupid to think that you can overcome election fraud by winning another election. For Christ’s sakes, how can some of you think we can win in two or four years, after allowing fraud on this scale?
It’s now or never. Freedom isn’t free.
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the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
It is it’s natural manure
Thomas Jefferson
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Yes it does, I read it on here all the time, “we’ll get them in 2022,”, Trump should start a third party”, and the most ignorant of all, “ let’s hope the Republicans win in GA, so we keep the Senate”.

Their should be a book, “ How to fix Rigged Elections by Holding Elections”
Originally Posted by 7mmbuster
64 days of angst for Trump supporters.
Think back to 2016, when Trump was “undermining” the Constitution by threatening not to concede the election.
He fully expected voter fraud then, and it would have been incredibly stupid not to expect more of the same in 2020. The democrats, with the help of spineless republicans, have been using voter fraud to win elections for two decades or more.
With all the accusations against Trump, two charges that haven’t been made against him are being spineless or incredibly stupid.
As President, DJT has the power to lay a trap to catch them in the act.
Trump had to let this election fraud happen as it did in order to prove to the American People what most of us have suspected for years. Now he’s got the proof.
I think maybe he overestimated the support he’d get from the republicans, but I also think there’s enough republicans that are either honest enough or afraid of voter backlash to back him up.
One thing I am absolutely certain of, is that if he, and We The People, allow this election to stand as the corrupt judges and media expect, we’ll never see another fair election in this country.
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I pray that you're right & fear that you're not & have drank too much of Q's KoolAid.

But we're now down to the nut cuttin', so if DJT has some aces up his sleeve, he'd better lay them down over the next 17 days.

We'll all know soon, one way or the other.

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Originally Posted by 7mmbuster
64 days
I think maybe he overestimated the support he’d get from the republicans, but I also think there’s enough republicans that are either honest enough or afraid of voter backlash to back him up.

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A couple comments,

Yes, President Trump overestimated his support from Republicans, but also from those he entrusted to help execute this Plan, or Sting Operation if you will. He could not do this alone, he needed help, help from members of his own cabinet and from all those Federal Judges and Justices he appointed. They all stabbed him in the back, Wray, Barr, Ratcliffe, his SC picks, his own WH Legal Council Chipolonne, and quite possibly his Own Vice President

As for the select few Republicans standing up for America, they are either playing us for fools, or they haven’t a clue how serious this fraud has become. If they still fear voter backlash then they are to ignorant to realize that elections are over in this country, politicians no longer have to be concerned about what We The People Think, they have the system, a fraudulent system to rely on.
He has never expected anything from the establishment Republicans.

He either has a blockbuster coming.......or is bluffing with his current hand.
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by 7mmbuster
It takes a special kind of stupid to think that you can overcome election fraud by winning another election. For Christ’s sakes, how can some of you think we can win in two or four years, after allowing fraud on this scale?
It’s now or never. Freedom isn’t free.
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the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
It is it’s natural manure
Thomas Jefferson
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Yes it does, I read it on here all the time, “we’ll get them in 2022,”, Trump should start a third party”, and the most ignorant of all, “ let’s hope the Republicans win in GA, so we keep the Senate”.

Their should be a book, “ How to fix Rigged Elections by Holding Elections”


New conservative party might hurt career Republicans, but it will help career Democrats to stay and win elections.
Originally Posted by CashisKing
I am with you... but everyday I watch more and more people chase the shiny beads of distraction.


Bread and circus has always worked
Originally Posted by JimFromTN
What proof? Still waiting for that crackin or was it craklins, or just crack.


There are non so blind as those who would not see, or are stupid enough to drink the kool-aid from fake news crap they watch on tv.
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Trump, not the party, has expanded the base, especially among minorities, more than any one else.

So, how ya reckon said party is gonna do what they never have been able to do before. And, how will getting rid of the “rainmaker” gonna make it rain?

DF


In American system there are no political prizes for second place winners. The game is while not in power to attack those in power to survive and to win another term. Winning is everything.
The Patriots, including Trump, are in control.

Clue:

Trump.to reporter, "There will be no Biden transition. There will be a continuation."
7mm, Que and Whip and K22 have been saying this, and much more, for a few years now.

The guilty.will feel pain.

None will escape what is coming.

Nothing will stop what is coming.

WWG1WGA

MAGA
Originally Posted by JimFromTN
What proof? Still waiting for that crackin or was it craklins, or just crack.




Go suck on a Glock, you fugking moron.
Originally Posted by 7mmbuster
It takes a special kind of stupid to think that you can overcome election fraud by winning another election. For Christ’s sakes, how can some of you think we can win in two or four years, after allowing fraud on this scale?
It’s now or never. Freedom isn’t free.
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the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
It is it’s natural manure
Thomas Jefferson
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What exactly do you propose...details?

I'm 100% in agreement that it's a stolen election by traitors, traitors in the streets, traitors in politics, traitors in the media, traitors in LE, in the courts including the highest, and traitors in the military. Who do you take on, and how would you succeed?
Originally Posted by doctor_Encore
Rudy is meeting with the Republican house and senate members providing them the evidence they will use to object to Bidens electors. I don't see with the projected 2 hour debates per state the CAT FIGHT" in both chambers to end on the 6th unless Mitch and Nancy change the debate rules which they undoubtedly will.


They're not friends, but both are deep state with garages full of skeletons to hide.
As much as I hate what I'm going to say, it's time for all us to accept this election. On January 6th, congress will confirm Biden as our next president. So this part of the election is sadly over. Now to Georgia. All of the polls are showing that both Republicans are behind by around 1.5%. However, no one has over 50%, so there is a chance. We need at least one to win or we could see fundamental changes to America.
It's a win/win for Trump. When he leaves Office, he'll go back to being a billionaire with an incredibly hot wife. Whether that happens in less than 3 weeks or in 4 years, he still wins.
Originally Posted by ro1459
As much as I hate what I'm going to say, it's time for all us to accept this election. On January 6th, congress will confirm Biden as our next president. So this part of the election is sadly over. Now to Georgia. All of the polls are showing that both Republicans are behind by around 1.5%. However, no one has over 50%, so there is a chance. We need at least one to win or we could see fundamental changes to America.

Polls, really.

Polls are part of the rigging process. Set the stage for a fraudulent election, so after it is stolen, very few will object, or we any the wiser.
Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
It's a win/win for Trump. When he leaves Office, he'll go back to being a billionaire with an incredibly hot wife. Whether that happens in less than 3 weeks or in 4 years, he still wins.

And America loses.

This is NOT about Trump, this is about America’s future.
GA election will be as fraudulent as the presidential election.

Scary how quickly things have changed in the last decade and will be even scarier what will happen in the next few years.
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
It's a win/win for Trump. When he leaves Office, he'll go back to being a billionaire with an incredibly hot wife. Whether that happens in less than 3 weeks or in 4 years, he still wins.

And America loses.

This is NOT about Trump, this is about America’s future.

America keeps "losing" because it is filled with losers. Of course it isn't about Trump. It's about YOU, and what YOU choose to do, given what you perceive around you and who you define yourself to be.

The way that boomers in general fawn over politicians is nothing short of authoritarian worship, which is much of the reason why we are where we are.
Hopefully, Trump will have the support of enough honest people in government, law enforcement and military to do this legally through the justice system. I know that sounds like a pipe dream, but I pray to God that it happens.
What I’m afraid of is that after the fraud is exposed, the commies and leftist are gonna use the useful idiots to cause an insurrection, maybe even a civil war.
It may get to that. There may be too much corruption and injustice for us to win. I honestly can’t say.
Regardless, I’ve said for years now that they won’t stop at guns. They’re not afraid of guns, they’re afraid of We The People. Gun Confiscation or prohibition is only the first step. The ultimate goal is to silence any and all opposition.
Study the history of what has happened to conservatives and free thinking people EVERYWHERE and EVERYTIME that communism has taken over.
Trust me, if we lose this election, it will get to that point, probably a lot easier and quicker than you think.
Even if we could swing it back in 2024, do you honestly believe we’ll be as strong as now after 4 years of Biden/Harris?
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Originally Posted by Slavek
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Trump, not the party, has expanded the base, especially among minorities, more than any one else.

So, how ya reckon said party is gonna do what they never have been able to do before. And, how will getting rid of the “rainmaker” gonna make it rain?

DF


In American system there are no political prizes for second place winners. The game is while not in power to attack those in power to survive and to win another term. Winning is everything.

Says the guy living in a shi t hole country.
What I’m afraid of is that after the fraud is exposed, the commies and leftist are gonna use the useful idiots to cause an insurrection, maybe even a civil war.

Yep. Thats why they still want the masks.

If they get in our guns and 1A will be gone and we will take the vaccine that will let them control our lives as they control our electronic devices with Microsoft allowing back door operations and "virus" fixes and our America will be history.
Originally Posted by Slavek


New conservative party might hurt career Republicans, but it will help career Democrats to stay and win elections.


I'm not so sure about that.

There are a whole lot of 2nd and 3rd Generation Mexicans and other immigrants getting quite pissed off at first generation immigrants and illegals and the pussified Democrats that coddle them.

There's also a whole lot of people trying to climb that middle-class ladder up into the six-figure plus range... that will get quite crushed by the crazy taxes... government stealing, forced unemployment in the non-essential job markets, stiffening regulations and such. Bitchie soccer mom wife and HOA telling you you're not allowed to drive a red car anymore. Lot of people will simply climb on their own horse and ride-away. That would be the sales pitch back Trump will use down the road.

We are in a "K" shaped economically recovery at present. 90% of the middle of the K will falter and go low.

The real heart of the new Democratic Party other than the dirt poor are the do good feel good liberal soccer moms. That have been living on $5,000 month of child support and alimony for the past 15 years. Soros recruits these bimbos for his groups like Moms demand action. I swear they wear cat piss as perfume. Most are long since divorced but many are still married. Beating her husbands into submission like they beat their children into submission.

Poison the water because they weren't born with balls.

Please forgive the rambling diatribe. On a small screen and my eyes are about tired
It's down to a Hail Mary on January 6th. I don't like the odds, and have little confidence that Pence will do the right thing.
Originally Posted by Lee_Woiteshek
It's down to a Hail Mary on January 6th. I don't like the odds, and have little confidence that Pence will do the right thing.

This.
Originally Posted by jaguartx
...and our America will be history.


Please don't look at America is a static continuity.

America has always been a nation of change, innovation and rebirths.

We are absolutely going through a rebirth now. Been happening a couple of decades for sure. The matter at hand is what does the baby look like in 5 years.

Obama stirred up well settled racial tensions. He did this quite deliberately. He was a pathetic POS but this gave him tremendous power. Power he could never have mustered otherwise.

We will have urban-rural conflicts as we've been having for a while.

Then young old conflicts where grandsons and granddaughters are killing grandfathers and grandmothers.

Poor vs. Rich has gone on since the beginning of America. But they will put a mega fan on it and really flame the fire.

In reality the only thing you can ever do is control yourself and your own actions. Either you go to a peaceful protest as Ballz calls them... or you stay at home with a jar of Vaseline and a high-speed internet connection.

In the same way that people watch car races and anticipate car wrecks... some people attend "peaceful protests"... or go for a car ride ready for whatever might happen.
We've been cursed to live during interesting times.
too late
Originally Posted by jaguartx
What I’m afraid of is that after the fraud is exposed, the commies and leftist are gonna use the useful idiots to cause an insurrection, maybe even a civil war.

Yep. Thats why they still want the masks.

If they get in our guns and 1A will be gone and we will take the vaccine that will let them control our lives as they control our electronic devices with Microsoft allowing back door operations and "virus" fixes and our America will be history.


Sigh. Our guns will not be gone. I understand the logic behind it, but a lot of people don't realize what it would actually take to steal all the guns away from legal gun owners. Not to mention the risks.

Do you really think they'll be able to find and take all the illegal guns floating around in cartels, etc? Do they really want them to be the only people with guns?

If they actually tried to take our guns, how much money would they offer for them? None? Haha, good luck getting them from me.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Lee_Woiteshek
It's down to a Hail Mary on January 6th. I don't like the odds, and have little confidence that Pence will do the right thing.

This.


It won't depend on Pence
Originally Posted by Mach3
Originally Posted by jaguartx
What I’m afraid of is that after the fraud is exposed, the commies and leftist are gonna use the useful idiots to cause an insurrection, maybe even a civil war.

Yep. Thats why they still want the masks.

If they get in our guns and 1A will be gone and we will take the vaccine that will let them control our lives as they control our electronic devices with Microsoft allowing back door operations and "virus" fixes and our America will be history.


Sigh. Our guns will not be gone. I understand the logic behind it, but a lot of people don't realize what it would actually take to steal all the guns away from legal gun owners. Not to mention the risks.

Do you really think they'll be able to find and take all the illegal guns floating around in cartels, etc? Do they really want them to be the only people with guns?

If they actually tried to take our guns, how much money would they offer for them? None? Haha, good luck getting them from me.

Strange how all the ammo and components have just gone away.....market forces, I'm sure....
Time to stand on the side of the US Constitution and do what we got to do! Need remedy? Read the Constitution, it spells it out!

Article 11: Any act directed against a person, apart from the cases and without the forms determined by law, is arbitrary and tyrannical; if attempt is made to execute such act by force, the person who is the object thereof has the right to resist it by force.
Originally Posted by jaguartx
What I’m afraid of is that after the fraud is exposed, the commies and leftist are gonna use the useful idiots to cause an insurrection, maybe even a civil war.

Yep. Thats why they still want the masks.

If they get in our guns and 1A will be gone and we will take the vaccine that will let them control our lives as they control our electronic devices with Microsoft allowing back door operations and "virus" fixes and our America will be history.

Supposedly, this is the reason/excuse Roberts used to justify his refusal to hear these cases.
Trump is not acting like he is going anywhere.
In fact, he seems to be rather calm.


Biden on the other hand, is not acting like his presidency is inevitable.
He has been rather quiet, cancelled the inauguration parade (citing China Flu).


Quite telling

Trump's got this.


I don't pray often.......

But will Monday & Tuesday night
Meh. I’m fine if it pops off at this point. Better now than later after they complete the gutting of our rights. Urban versus rural is a losing battle if rural sits quietly by and follows the rules.
Originally Posted by 69sportfury
GA election will be as fraudulent as the presidential election.

Scary how quickly things have changed in the last decade and will be even scarier what will happen in the next few years.


Unless they dont cheat, let the Rinos win and then say, see, elections arent rigged, people dont want Trump.
Originally Posted by GeoW
Time to stand on the side of the US Constitution and do what we got to do! Need remedy? Read the Constitution, it spells it out!

Article 11: Any act directed against a person, apart from the cases and without the forms determined by law, is arbitrary and tyrannical; if attempt is made to execute such act by force, the person who is the object thereof has the right to resist it by force.

There is no Article 11.
Originally Posted by add
Trump is not acting like he is going anywhere.
In fact, he seems to be rather calm.


Biden on the other hand, is not acting like his presidency is inevitable.
He has been rather quiet, cancelled the inauguration parade (citing China Flu).


Quite telling

Trump's got this.


Yep. Trump is appointing new wheels in big positions, Kamel Hairass is still a senator and Biteme is wearing an ankle monitor on one leg or the other depending on what he remembers. whistle
Originally Posted by Mach3
Sigh. Our guns will not be gone. Do you really think they'll be able to find and take all the illegal guns floating around in cartels, etc? Do they really want them to be the only people with guns? .

They’re not worried about criminals and cartels. Hell, they’re surrounded by guns carried by their well paid goons. Crime and cartels are no danger to the elites.
But criminals and gangs are very useful in instilling fear into the population. Remember what I said about government causing a problem, and then offering itself as the solution to the problem they’re causing?
Defund the police is only the tip of the iceberg.
I’d guess (conservatively) that if and when prohibition and confiscation of guns starts, that 3 outta 4 gun owners will comply. We who won’t will be made examples of to put that fear into the others.
They seek total control of every person and every nickel that person makes. What is better for controlling the masses than fear?
Read the link posted above about China and their fingers in this.
Remember, during the 1970s, China killed tens of millions of their own people who were deemed a risk to their power. The hundreds of millions of Chinese people left are controlled by fear of government.
Please, don’t take my words for the truth. Check the facts for yourself. It’s happened over and over again. I’m just a voice in the wilderness, telling you God’s honest truth as I see it.
Do your own thinking, while you’re still allowed.
I’m gonna make a little prediction here, so mark my words. If nothing happens after Biden/ Harris are installed, I look for a mass shooting on a soft target with semi-auto rifles. It’ll have maximum casualties and maximum shock, and they’ll force through their agenda.
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Originally Posted by Mach3
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Lee_Woiteshek
It's down to a Hail Mary on January 6th. I don't like the odds, and have little confidence that Pence will do the right thing.

This.


It won't depend on Pence


This.
Don't look now. but the power will lie with the senate; and this we may lose.
What is this 'we'?

You are 'them'.

Originally Posted by watch4bear
Don't look now. but the power will lie with the senate; and this we may lose.
Originally Posted by MIKEWERNER
What is this 'we'?

You are 'them'.

Originally Posted by watch4bear
Don't look now. but the power will lie with the senate; and this we may lose.



Pretty much so, Mike
Originally Posted by MIKEWERNER
What is this 'we'?

You are 'them'.

Originally Posted by watch4bear
Don't look now. but the power will lie with the senate; and this we may lose.


Watch4bear is on our side. He just doesn’t sound that way all the time! grin
And while we start busting each other’s nuts, I’ll throw out this little gem of wisdom.
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we must all hang together, or surely, we shall all hang separately

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Honestly, if it weren't for the dems and their gun control fetish, I couldn't care which party is in office. They are all the same, and it's been proven over and over. Both parties have valid points depending on subject.
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What is this 'we'?

You are 'them'.


Do you have a tear in your beer? grin grin grin
Originally Posted by dogcatcher223
Honestly, if it weren't for the dems and their gun control fetish, I couldn't care which party is in office. They are all the same, and it's been proven over and over. Both parties have valid points depending on subject.

Generally speaking, I'd agree. Except this new aggressive, socialist, commie group scares me. The old middle of the road Dem is no more, devoured by this activistic bunch.

Even the Repubs tend to be largely a pretty sorry lot, with some execeptions...

Too many of both parties are in bed with the Chicoms and others moneysource , chasing that almighty buck. They go to DC broke, come out multimillionairs. Go figure that on their saleries... And, many never come home, just move over to a Kay St. address, doing work as a lobbyist.

The citizen legislator seems to have been replaced by career politicians. That wasn't the intent of the Founders.

IWe have a Republic, IF we can keep it.... Only time will answer that one....

DF
This was on Newsmax yesterday

https://www.newsmax.com/michaeldors...22021&s=acs&dkt_nbr=0101025ut5ca

In 2020, Vote Fraud Claims Were Not 'Baseless'
a hand putting multiple i voted stickers in a ballot box
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By Michael DorstewitzSaturday, 02 January 2021 12:23 PMCurrent | Bio | Archive


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Each time a member of the big media reports on someone referring to acts of fraud or even irregularities in the Nov. 3 presidential election, they describe them as "baseless claims" or "unproven."

Such words are included in almost every wire story since election day published by the Associated Press, Reuters, Bloomberg, and others.

Actually, there are many examples of vote fraud that took place during the 2020 election, and serious evidence of voting irregularities relating to the mail-in ballots.

Here is what we do know:

Nevada: The Silver State rushed a universal vote-by-mail measure through the legislature in response to the COVID-19 pandemic. The bill, known as AB 4, lacked safeguards to assure voter identity and was implemented without cleaning voter rolls of deceased voters, those who had moved, or who had become ineligible to vote.

Attorney Jesse Binnall testified before the Senate Homeland Security Committee on Dec. 16 as to what resulted.

He had proof of nearly 90,000 fraudulent or improper votes that were cast, including instances where:

More than 42,000 people voted multiple times.
At least 1,500 people listed as "dead" voted.
More than 19,000 non-residents voted.
In excess of 8,000 people cast mail-in votes from non-existent addresses.
Over 15,000 votes were cast from commercial or vacant addresses.
Nearly 4,000 non-citizens voted.
Considering Biden took Nevada by 33,596 votes, these allegations are serious.

Arizona: The Arizona Republican Party alleges more than 100,000 ballots might have been improperly cast in the Grand Canyon State, including some 28,000 duplicated ballots in Maricopa County alone.

Arizona GOP party chairwoman Dr. Kelli Ward also addressed in one of her video reports the subject of "fake news" outlets, that tend to mischaracterize allegations of voter fraud.

"We are trying to have integrity in our electoral process," she said, adding: "We have every right to make legal challenges."

Again, only 10,457 votes separate Biden and President Donald Trump on Arizona, a 0.3% difference.

Wisconsin: President Trump's legal team sought to have some 221,000 ballots disqualified that were cast in the state's two most heavily Democratic counties — Dane and Milwaukee.

At issue were incomplete absentee ballot envelopes where clerks filled in missing information, as well as those that were issued without a proper request, and still others that were the subject of ballot harvesting.

In a narrow 4-3 ruling, the Wisconsin Supreme Court rejected the challenge, claiming the campaign was "not entitled to the relief it seeks."

The campaign filed its petition for a writ of certiorari with the U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday.

Only 20,682 votes separate Trump and Biden in the Badger State, 0.61%.

One can hardly say this is a "baseless" claim, and pure reason has many people suspicious.

Biden underperformed Obama in 80% of Wisconsin counties but hugely outperformed in just five counties to win the state.

Michigan: While the Trump campaign has made an issue of the voting systems and software used throughout the state, allegations of widespread fraud remain unproven.

The Trump legal team has presented additional evidence of voter fraud and irregularities before the Michigan state Senate Oversight Committee on Dec. 1.

In one instance, a "Guard the Vote" volunteer testified he went through 30,000 of the 172,000 Detroit absentee ballots — about 17%. Some 229 were dead voters and 2,660 listed invalid addresses.

Finally, Republican poll watchers were denied access for proper ballot monitoring due to alleged COVID-19 concerns.

Pennsylvania: Nothing about the Keystone State made sense.

Like Detroit, Philadelphia election officials denied Republican poll watchers adequate access into counting rooms, requiring them to seek a court order.

"Trump campaign staffers marched into the PA Convention Center with a court order giving them the right to stand 6 feet away from sorters, instead of the previously allotted 20 feet," reported CBS3 Philly reporter Alecia Reid.

Most recently, a group of 17 Republican state lawmakers released a blockbuster statement Monday, alleging 202,377 more votes were cast than there were voters who voted. State Rep. Frank Ryan, who has a background as a certified public accountant, led the investigation and released a statement.

"These numbers just don't add up, and the alleged certification of Pennsylvania's presidential election results was absolutely premature, unconfirmed, and in error," the statement said.

Georgia: The biggest bombshell was a video that appears to depict news media and poll watchers being ushered out of the counting room in an Atlanta tabulation center.

After all but a few workers left, suitcases of what appear to be ballots are removed from underneath a table and are run through machines.

Georgia failed to use signature verification and other measures to certify mail-in ballots. Rejection rates — not allowing non-eligible mail-in ballots — plummeted in 2020 from the 2018 election.

Other irregularities:

In addition to outright claims of fraud, state and local officials in at least four states — Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Georgia — used the pandemic to make last-minute changes to their state voting laws.

The U.S. Constitution provides only each state legislature may set the time, place, and manner of elections.

This prompted Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton to file a lawsuit against the four states with the United States Supreme Court for allegedly exploiting "the COVID-19 pandemic to justify ignoring federal and state election laws and unlawfully enacting last-minute changes, thus skewing the results of the 2020 General Election."

In a statement he said, "Trust in the integrity of our election processes is sacrosanct and binds our citizenry and the States in this union together. Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin destroyed that trust and compromised the security and integrity of the 2020 election."

Despite the fact 18 more states signed on to Texas' petition, the Supreme Court dismissed the case, citing lack of standing. Only Justices Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito dissented.

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, a student of history, compared the long list of anomalies to another election nearly 200 years in the past.

"The more data comes out on vote anomalies that clearly are not legitimate the more it looks like 2020 may be the biggest presidential theft since Adams and Clay robbed Andrew Jackson in 1824," Gingrich tweeted. "State legislatures should demand recounts."
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
[quote=dogcatcher223].

Even the Repubs tend to be largely a pretty sorry lot

DF



Like this dick head

https://www.ksl.com/article/5007681...op-plan-to-reject-election-certification
Originally Posted by tikkanut
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
[quote=dogcatcher223].

Even the Repubs tend to be largely a pretty sorry lot

DF



Like this dick head

https://www.ksl.com/article/5007681...op-plan-to-reject-election-certification


There are only two parties. Patriots vs Traitors.
That never was a republican. Funny that they picked him for us to vote for.
Originally Posted by dogcatcher223
Honestly, if it weren't for the dems and their gun control fetish, I couldn't care which party is in office. They are all the same, and it's been proven over and over. Both parties have valid points depending on subject.


That’s my main concern as well , the 2A
Notice how none of the talking heads, including the MSM and people like Hannity or O'Reilly are talking about treason and the Insurrection Act?

Cue said it would take the military.

The military will save mankind. whistle
Originally Posted by jaguartx
[quote=JimFromTN]What proof? Still waiting for that crackin or was it craklins, or just crack.


Taken from "Cretch"........ Attorney Jesse Binnall testified before the Senate Homeland Security Committee on Dec. 16 as to what resulted.

He had proof of nearly 90,000 fraudulent or improper votes that were cast, including instances where:

More than 42,000 people voted multiple times.
At least 1,500 people listed as "dead" voted.
More than 19,000 non-residents voted.
In excess of 8,000 people cast mail-in votes from non-existent addresses.
Over 15,000 votes were cast from commercial or vacant addresses.
Nearly 4,000 non-citizens voted.
Considering Biden took Nevada by 33,596 votes, these allegations are serious.

Arizona: The Arizona Republican Party alleges more than 100,000 ballots might have been improperly cast in the Grand Canyon State, including some 28,000 duplicated ballots in Maricopa County alone.

Arizona GOP party chairwoman Dr. Kelli Ward also addressed in one of her video reports the subject of "fake news" outlets, that tend to mischaracterize allegations of voter fraud.

"We are trying to have integrity in our electoral process," she said, adding: "We have every right to make legal challenges."

Again, only 10,457 votes separate Biden and President Donald Trump on Arizona, a 0.3% difference.

Wisconsin: President Trump's legal team sought to have some 221,000 ballots disqualified that were cast in the state's two most heavily Democratic counties — Dane and Milwaukee.

At issue were incomplete absentee ballot envelopes where clerks filled in missing information, as well as those that were issued without a proper request, and still others that were the subject of ballot harvesting.

In a narrow 4-3 ruling, the Wisconsin Supreme Court rejected the challenge, claiming the campaign was "not entitled to the relief it seeks."

The campaign filed its petition for a writ of certiorari with the U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday.

Only 20,682 votes separate Trump and Biden in the Badger State, 0.61%.

One can hardly say this is a "baseless" claim, and pure reason has many people suspicious.

Biden underperformed Obama in 80% of Wisconsin counties but hugely outperformed in just five counties to win the state.

Michigan: While the Trump campaign has made an issue of the voting systems and software used throughout the state, allegations of widespread fraud remain unproven.

The Trump legal team has presented additional evidence of voter fraud and irregularities before the Michigan state Senate Oversight Committee on Dec. 1.

In one instance, a "Guard the Vote" volunteer testified he went through 30,000 of the 172,000 Detroit absentee ballots — about 17%. Some 229 were dead voters and 2,660 listed invalid addresses.

Finally, Republican poll watchers were denied access for proper ballot monitoring due to alleged COVID-19 concerns.

Pennsylvania: Nothing about the Keystone State made sense.

Like Detroit, Philadelphia election officials denied Republican poll watchers adequate access into counting rooms, requiring them to seek a court order.

"Trump campaign staffers marched into the PA Convention Center with a court order giving them the right to stand 6 feet away from sorters, instead of the previously allotted 20 feet," reported CBS3 Philly reporter Alecia Reid.

Most recently, a group of 17 Republican state lawmakers released a blockbuster statement Monday, alleging 202,377 more votes were cast than there were voters who voted. State Rep. Frank Ryan, who has a background as a certified public accountant, led the investigation and released a statement.

"These numbers just don't add up, and the alleged certification of Pennsylvania's presidential election results was absolutely premature, unconfirmed, and in error," the statement said.

Georgia: The biggest bombshell was a video that appears to depict news media and poll watchers being ushered out of the counting room in an Atlanta tabulation center.

After all but a few workers left, suitcases of what appear to be ballots are removed from underneath a table and are run through machines.

Georgia failed to use signature verification and other measures to certify mail-in ballots. Rejection rates — not allowing non-eligible mail-in ballots — plummeted in 2020 from the 2018 election.

Other irregularities:

In addition to outright claims of fraud, state and local officials in at least four states — Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Georgia — used the pandemic to make last-minute changes to their state voting laws.

The U.S. Constitution provides only each state legislature may set the time, place, and manner of elections.

This prompted Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton to file a lawsuit against the four states with the United States Supreme Court for allegedly exploiting "the COVID-19 pandemic to justify ignoring federal and state election laws and unlawfully enacting last-minute changes, thus skewing the results of the 2020 General Election."

In a statement he said, "Trust in the integrity of our election processes is sacrosanct and binds our citizenry and the States in this union together. Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin destroyed that trust and compromised the security and integrity of the 2020 election."

Despite the fact 18 more states signed on to Texas' petition, the Supreme Court dismissed the case, citing lack of standing. Only Justices Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito dissented.

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, a student of history, compared the long list of anomalies to another election nearly 200 years in the past.

"The more data comes out on vote anomalies that clearly are not legitimate the more it looks like 2020 may be the biggest presidential theft since Adams and Clay robbed Andrew Jackson in 1824," Gingrich tweeted. "State legislatures should demand recounts."
Facts are, the courts ruled against those cases 59 times out of 60
Originally Posted by watch4bear
That (romney) never was a republican. Funny that they picked him for us to vote for.


WHOLE LOT INSIGHT THERE.

Romney is a tool... a PATHETIC TOOL.
Originally Posted by 7mmbuster
Originally Posted by Mach3
Sigh. Our guns will not be gone. Do you really think they'll be able to find and take all the illegal guns floating around in cartels, etc? Do they really want them to be the only people with guns? .

They’re not worried about criminals and cartels. Hell, they’re surrounded by guns carried by their well paid goons. Crime and cartels are no danger to the elites.
But criminals and gangs are very useful in instilling fear into the population. Remember what I said about government causing a problem, and then offering itself as the solution to the problem they’re causing?
Defund the police is only the tip of the iceberg.
I’d guess (conservatively) that if and when prohibition and confiscation of guns starts, that 3 outta 4 gun owners will comply. We who won’t will be made examples of to put that fear into the others.
They seek total control of every person and every nickel that person makes. What is better for controlling the masses than fear?
Read the link posted above about China and their fingers in this.
Remember, during the 1970s, China killed tens of millions of their own people who were deemed a risk to their power. The hundreds of millions of Chinese people left are controlled by fear of government.
Please, don’t take my words for the truth. Check the facts for yourself. It’s happened over and over again. I’m just a voice in the wilderness, telling you God’s honest truth as I see it.
Do your own thinking, while you’re still allowed.
I’m gonna make a little prediction here, so mark my words. If nothing happens after Biden/ Harris are installed, I look for a mass shooting on a soft target with semi-auto rifles. It’ll have maximum casualties and maximum shock, and they’ll force through their agenda.
7mm

That right there is what it is folks

Excellent post sir, most excellent.
Originally Posted by watch4bear
Facts are, the courts ruled against those cases 59 times out of 60

The same judicial system that refused to drop the case against General Flynn, even after the prosecution dropped it.

You think there is any integrity and honor left in our Judicial system after what we saw with Flynn, Roberts rewriting the ACA so it could pass muster.
you sir are on crack.
Facts are facts......you will never be worth much.....

Bless your heart.....keep trying.....futile as it will be.

Originally Posted by watch4bear
Facts are, the courts ruled against those cases 59 times out of 60

Absolutely , without a doubt. President Trump will walk away with this.
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by 7mmbuster
Originally Posted by Mach3
Sigh. Our guns will not be gone. Do you really think they'll be able to find and take all the illegal guns floating around in cartels, etc? Do they really want them to be the only people with guns? .

They’re not worried about criminals and cartels. Hell, they’re surrounded by guns carried by their well paid goons. Crime and cartels are no danger to the elites.
But criminals and gangs are very useful in instilling fear into the population. Remember what I said about government causing a problem, and then offering itself as the solution to the problem they’re causing?
Defund the police is only the tip of the iceberg.
I’d guess (conservatively) that if and when prohibition and confiscation of guns starts, that 3 outta 4 gun owners will comply. We who won’t will be made examples of to put that fear into the others.
They seek total control of every person and every nickel that person makes. What is better for controlling the masses than fear?
Read the link posted above about China and their fingers in this.
Remember, during the 1970s, China killed tens of millions of their own people who were deemed a risk to their power. The hundreds of millions of Chinese people left are controlled by fear of government.
Please, don’t take my words for the truth. Check the facts for yourself. It’s happened over and over again. I’m just a voice in the wilderness, telling you God’s honest truth as I see it.
Do your own thinking, while you’re still allowed.
I’m gonna make a little prediction here, so mark my words. If nothing happens after Biden/ Harris are installed, I look for a mass shooting on a soft target with semi-auto rifles. It’ll have maximum casualties and maximum shock, and they’ll force through their agenda.
7mm

That right there is what it is folks

Excellent post sir, most excellent.


The most true statement I’ve heard in a long time, spot on 7mm!
Tell us why trump and his attorneys are having so much success. Point to all the wins if you would. Facts is what I'm after. Got any? grin

If not, cry in your soup bowl. Wish in one hand, chit in the other, don't work here boy.
Originally Posted by watch4bear
Tell us why trump and his attorneys are having so much success. Point to all the wins if you would. Facts is what I'm after. Got any? grin

If not, cry in your soup bowl. Wish in one hand, chit in the other, don't work here boy.

With all due respect...



























































fück your inane questions.
Amen.

Some lack the mental facility to be able to realize that judges and politicians have been bought off, threatened and blackmailed to make the moves they do to survive politically or physically with their kids and grandkids. Ask him which cases have been heard with evidence admitted.

I don't know what agency is out there to enforce the matter even after it's proven that the election was stolen.

The DOJ is owned. The FBI is owned. The CIA is owned. The SCOTUS is scared schittless.

The deep state runs the whole show. It wouldn't have been possible for the election to be stolen if it didn't.
Is trump having a hard time finding attorney's worth their salt? Is there nothing substantial? I'm guessing no one got caught with their hand in the cookie jar?
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Amen.


+1

I believe Trump has this too. I am just hoping for some arrest of our favorite democrats that believe they are above the law.

MAGA! KAG!
Military tribunals
amen
Originally Posted by BobBrown
Military tribunals



Trump didnt spend all that money on GITMO for nuttin
Trump is on tape telling Georgia's secretary of State to find 11K more votes


Not a good place for him to be.

His goose is cooked, unfortunately!
Originally Posted by BobBrown
Military tribunals


,...and the military is owned. That's why it's been scattered all over the Middle East for 2 decades.
Quote
and the military is owned



yep deep state and stuff
Originally Posted by watch4bear
Tell us why trump and his attorneys are having so much success. Point to all the wins if you would. Facts is what I'm after. Got any? grin

If not, cry in your soup bowl. Wish in one hand, chit in the other, don't work here boy.


Kemp's daughters boyfriend. You think Kemp got the message. How many Kennedys died in the last 18 mo to shut RFK Jr up about the truth concerning Gates dangerous vaccines?


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...emp-mourns-death-Sen-Loefflers-aide.html
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by BobBrown
Military tribunals


,...and the military is owned. That's why it's been scattered all over the Middle East for 2 decades.

Go ahead and turn in your guns then
Quote
How many Kennedys died in the last 18 mo to shut RFK up about the truth concerning Gates dangerous vaccines?




huh?
Originally Posted by 7mmbuster
Originally Posted by Mach3
Sigh. Our guns will not be gone. Do you really think they'll be able to find and take all the illegal guns floating around in cartels, etc? Do they really want them to be the only people with guns? .

They’re not worried about criminals and cartels. Hell, they’re surrounded by guns carried by their well paid goons. Crime and cartels are no danger to the elites.
But criminals and gangs are very useful in instilling fear into the population. Remember what I said about government causing a problem, and then offering itself as the solution to the problem they’re causing?
Defund the police is only the tip of the iceberg.
I’d guess (conservatively) that if and when prohibition and confiscation of guns starts, that 3 outta 4 gun owners will comply. We who won’t will be made examples of to put that fear into the others.
They seek total control of every person and every nickel that person makes. What is better for controlling the masses than fear?
Read the link posted above about China and their fingers in this.
Remember, during the 1970s, China killed tens of millions of their own people who were deemed a risk to their power. The hundreds of millions of Chinese people left are controlled by fear of government.
Please, don’t take my words for the truth. Check the facts for yourself. It’s happened over and over again. I’m just a voice in the wilderness, telling you God’s honest truth as I see it.
Do your own thinking, while you’re still allowed.
I’m gonna make a little prediction here, so mark my words. If nothing happens after Biden/ Harris are installed, I look for a mass shooting on a soft target with semi-auto rifles. It’ll have maximum casualties and maximum shock, and they’ll force through their agenda.
7mm



I agree, but remember that the USA has, by far, the most gun owners and guns themselves (over 300 million, I think) in the hands of good citizens.

I don't think that would go well for the government if everyone was opposed to "handing them in"
Apparently, Trump has already arranged to transfer Barron to a school near his Florida home, which doesn't create the impression that Trump believes he's remaining in DC.
Originally Posted by Bristoe
I don't know what agency is out there to enforce the matter even after it's proven that the election was stolen.

The DOJ is owned. The FBI is owned. The CIA is owned. The SCOTUS is scared schittless.

The deep state runs the whole show. It wouldn't have been possible for the election to be stolen if it didn't.


Quote
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.

I ain’t exactly a Constitutional Scholar, but I read that to mean that if all else fails, it’s up to you and me.
My Dad risked his life from Normandy to the Elbe River to keep this nation free. For me to stand around and watch it fall, would dishonor his memory.
I’ve made it plain how I feel and where I stand. The line is drawn.
7mm
Watch4bear can gofuckhimself, from my stand point!
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Apparently, Trump has already arranged to transfer Barron to a school near his Florida home, which doesn't create the impression that Trump believes he's remaining in DC.



Trump would never do a head fake.
Yes, he was an easy one to block.
Originally Posted by ISRO
Trump is on tape telling Georgia's secretary of State to find 11K more votes


Not a good place for him to be.

His goose is cooked, unfortunately!


Gave that spineless punk, rino SOS enough rope in that interview to hang himself.

It was brilliant.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Apparently, Trump has already arranged to transfer Barron to a school near his Florida home, which doesn't create the impression that Trump believes he's remaining in DC.


As I recall President Trump didn’t want Barron going to school in DC in the first place and based on the swamp I damn sure wouldn’t want my son or daughter going to school in the middle of the swamp ghetto. I’m not sure of Barron’s age but he should be going to high school soon and I could see him transferring anyway. With the Covid conspiracy and the ratfucks Cuomo and Deblasio I can understand why New York is out of the question. There are too many factors to consider that I am not reading into that too much. I don’t think President Trump is planning on going anywhere.

Happy New Year TRH. 👍
Trump has gamed the board to his favor.

Chris Miller, the new Sec of Def, now reports directly to the CiC.

This puts Special Operations Command (SOCOM) at Trump's right hand.
Originally Posted by ISRO
Trump is on tape telling Georgia's secretary of State to find 11K more votes


Not a good place for him to be.

His goose is cooked, unfortunately!


This time, they really got him.

lol
The full audio:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/full-phone-call-trump-georgia-raffensperger-election
Where the President says they don’t even need to deal with the Dominion issue in GA, because “only need 11,7xx votes,” and they can account for those easily outside of the Dominion issue in GA.

Context matters.
Originally Posted by ISRO
Trump is on tape telling Georgia's secretary of State to find 11K more votes


Not a good place for him to be.

His goose is cooked, unfortunately!


caught lying AGAIN. What a POS
I pray you are right... but if you are not.... I'm ready to join the resistance against false President HARRIS...Kamalamama DingDong...
Originally Posted by AcesNeights

Happy New Year TRH. 👍

Same to you, Aces.
Originally Posted by add
Trump has gamed the board to his favor.

Chris Miller, the new Sec of Def, now reports directly to the CiC.

This puts Special Operations Command (SOCOM) at Trump's right hand.


Trump controls the DOD now.

Miller, Patel, and Cohen plus totally changing the Advisory Board are not the moves of a guy planning to leave office on Jan 20.
Originally Posted by ISRO
Trump is on tape telling Georgia's secretary of State to find 11K more votes


Not a good place for him to be.

His goose is cooked, unfortunately!

There you go again, believing the main stream media. The sound bites played on the news are highly edited to make Trump look bad. RicBin has posted a link to the full context, but if you don't have the time ore the desire to listen to the full call there is a article on Citizens Free Press the has the full call and a point by point break down. ISRO please read and comment. To me it strengthens the President's case!
Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by add
Trump has gamed the board to his favor.

Chris Miller, the new Sec of Def, now reports directly to the CiC.

This puts Special Operations Command (SOCOM) at Trump's right hand.


Trump controls the DOD now.

Miller, Patel, and Cohen plus totally changing the Advisory Board are not the moves of a guy planning to leave office on Jan 20.


And these are only the moves the public is aware of.

cool
Originally Posted by ISRO
Trump is on tape telling Georgia's secretary of State to find 11K more votes


Not a good place for him to be.

His goose is cooked, unfortunately!


It was pretty stupid for him to do that right before the Senate runoffs. Any semblance of opportunity to preserve our Republic rests in the outcome of the GA Senate races, and this could well push fence sitters to the left.

He called the enemy on the telephone and gave him ammunition. crazy
As a dispassionate observer outside the fevered bubble of the various American political machines ..... I'd put the chance of Trump staying on as President at 0%. Sorry.
Originally Posted by North61
As a dispassionate observer outside the fevered bubble of the various American political machines ..... I'd put the chance of Trump staying on as President at 0%. Sorry.


[Linked Image from i.pinimg.com]
What these two said....

Originally Posted by JohnBurns
Originally Posted by add
Trump has gamed the board to his favor.

Chris Miller, the new Sec of Def, now reports directly to the CiC.

This puts Special Operations Command (SOCOM) at Trump's right hand.


Trump controls the DOD now.

Miller, Patel, and Cohen plus totally changing the Advisory Board are not the moves of a guy planning to leave office on Jan 20.

Originally Posted by North61
As a dispassionate observer outside the fevered bubble of the various American political machines ..... I'd put the chance of Trump staying on as President at 0%. Sorry.


Lol....thanks for playing. You can collect your consolation prize on your way out the door.....be sure to show proof you paid the value added tax and don’t forget to tip your waitress.
Originally Posted by windridge
Originally Posted by ISRO
Trump is on tape telling Georgia's secretary of State to find 11K more votes


Not a good place for him to be.

His goose is cooked, unfortunately!


It was pretty stupid for him to do that right before the Senate runoffs. Any semblance of opportunity to preserve our Republic rests in the outcome of the GA Senate races, and this could well push fence sitters to the left.

He called the enemy on the telephone and gave him ammunition. crazy


All this talk about the GA senate race. Why in the phouc would anyone with half a brain think that this election isnt rigged the same way the POTUS vote was for Biden??
It’s hilarious when Canadians chime in on USA affairs. Clean your own house first
Hoping and praying, but not holding my breath while I do so.
Originally Posted by ShaunRyan
Hoping and praying, but not holding my breath while I do so.


Oh, please, hold your breath. All Trump supporters should hold their breath, for a good, long time.
Originally Posted by Paddler
Originally Posted by ShaunRyan
Hoping and praying, but not holding my breath while I do so.


Oh, please, hold your breath. All Trump supporters should hold their breath, for a good, long time.


Let's have a friendly competition. 10:1 says I can hold my breath longer than you. That being what it is, who said I'm a Trump supporter?

What I am is a Constitutionalist, have been since we did a mock election in Mrs. Dodd's 4th grade class in 1980; Reagan vs. Carter. At age 9, I alone abstained. I was a kid, knew jack schitt except that my fellow students were merely parroting what they heard from their parents, no thought involved. I made it my mission henceforth to understand for myself. What I learned, from watching Meet the Press and Face the Nation and clocking political campaigns instead of watching Satunrday morning cartoons and Sunday NFL, was that these pukes get up in front of the cameras and spew what they think people want to hear but seldom, if ever, actually follow through, and the stupid fuggers out in voter-land fall for it every time.

I don't drink Kool-Aid, regardless of color. But here comes a guy that seems to be going against the status quo on both sides of the aisle, risking his own personal fortune--if that's actually the case--in order to do what's right. He's a dick. I don't care. I have thick skin and am not easily offended, and even if I was, I understand that nobody gives a f u c k.

So yeah, I want to see the swamp drained. I have no illusions that any "duly elected" official is going to get that done. My take is that We the People are going to get that done, or we are going to shuffle off into our designated cubicles, with our assigned thoughts and values, and become serfs for the benefit of a wealthy elite, WHOM WE EMPOWERED.

Sucking some politically correct agenda du jour for the sake of acceptance from a bunch of candy-assed city-dwellers with no ability to actually provide for themselves while they adopt whatever fashion some twenty-year old kid dictates is what's "cool" is not a route I am willing to take. I'll die behind a rifle first, just as my paternal ancestors did in the ranks of George Washington's Continental Army.

I believe not in any political agenda. I believe in integrity and grit, and I see it severely lacking in the population of the USA, foremost in you.
Originally Posted by ShaunRyan
Originally Posted by Paddler
Originally Posted by ShaunRyan
Hoping and praying, but not holding my breath while I do so.


Oh, please, hold your breath. All Trump supporters should hold their breath, for a good, long time.


Let's have a friendly competition. 10:1 says I can hold my breath longer than you. That being what it is, who said I'm a Trump supporter?

What I am is a Constitutionalist, have been since we did a mock election in Mrs. Dodd's 4th grade class in 1980; Reagan vs. Carter. At age 9, I alone abstained. I was a kid, knew jack schitt except that my fellow students were merely parroting what they heard from their parents, no thought involved. I made it my mission henceforth to understand for myself. What I learned, from watching Meet the Press and Face the Nation and clocking political campaigns instead of watching Satunrday morning cartoons and Sunday NFL, was that these pukes get up in front of the cameras and spew what they think people want to hear but seldom, if ever, actually follow through, and the stupid fuggers out in voter-land fall for it every time.

I don't drink Kool-Aid, regardless of color. But here comes a guy that seems to be going against the status quo on both sides of the aisle, risking his own personal fortune--if that's actually the case--in order to do what's right. He's a dick. I don't care. I have thick skin and am not easily offended, and even if I was, I understand that nobody gives a f u c k.

So yeah, I want to see the swamp drained. I have no illusions that any "duly elected" official is going to get that done. My take is that We the People are going to get that done, or we are going to shuffle off into our designated cubicles, with our assigned thoughts and values, and become serfs for the benefit of a wealthy elite, WHOM WE EMPOWERED.

Sucking some politically correct agenda du jour for the sake of acceptance from a bunch of candy-assed city-dwellers with no ability to actually provide for themselves while they adopt whatever fashion some twenty-year old kid dictates is what's "cool" is not a route I am willing to take. I'll die behind a rifle first, just as my paternal ancestors did in the ranks of George Washington's Continental Army.

I believe not in any political agenda. I believe in integrity and grit, and I see it severely lacking in the population of the USA, foremost in you.

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