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I have a piece of 10-24 x 6” threaded rod that I need to bend a 3/4” wide notch in - anywhere from 1/8” - 3/16” deep. I need the threads intact on the last 1/2” of the 1 7/8” end. I’ll lop off about 2” of the other end and will need the last 1/2: afterwards on intact threads.

I thought of clamping it against a 3/4” wide piece of metal and sticking it to a longer piece, and then putting 2 narrow pieces of metal on the opposite side thick enough to allow it to bend and clamp the hell out of it in the vice.

I suppose heating it with a torch would help but I only need the bend it in about an 1/8”.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. (I have a pic that I can upload but the file is too large).
To start with, screw a nut on it as far as you need it. That will help protect the threads. Beyond that, I've read your post several times and can't see what you're getting at. We need those pics. If you don't have an Imgur account, open one as it will reduce the file size for you when you upload.
You lost me at trying to bend a notch...
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
If you don't have an Imgur account, open one as it will reduce the file size for you when you upload.


yup.
Originally Posted by tndrbstr
You lost me at trying to bend a notch...


Me too.
I'm guessing it's an attempt to make a off-set bolt.
A picture or drawing is required because I can't follow the written description of what you're trying to do.
And I thought I was different. I am happy I am not the only one confused. I have been a machinist/toolmaker since 1967. Never in my life have I heard of bending a notch.
So you need 1/2" of threads at either end of a 6" rod
And a u-notch 1-7/8 from one end?

Depending on the application it might be easier to tap a small block of metal to get around whatever obstruction is in your way.
I thought it was just me.
A 10-24 all-thread you could about bend it with your hands. Maybe lay it across an open set of vice jaws and strike the middle of it with a ball peen hammer.(?)
Nuts all the way to protect what threads need protected & then place the rod on top of two blocks of 2x12’s

Run over that sumbitch w your tractor


Yes, I do have a degree in redneck engineering, why do you ask ?
I am thinking something like a small version of an anti-sway bar dodging a rear.
But that's just my mental image.
Originally Posted by 2legit2quit
Nuts all the way to protect what threads need protected & then place the rod on top of two blocks of 2x12’s

Run over that sumbitch w your tractor


Yes, I do have a degree in redneck engineering, why do you ask ?


laffin
That engineering degree might come in handy when your pluggin that hole in your tractor tire! laugh
All thread is brittle si use a torch. The zinc will make fumes. The nut will chase and protect the threads from bend and saw burrs. At least 10 24 is inexpensive if you goof
If there’s a good hardware store around, take the rod there and ask them how to do it.
Originally Posted by tndrbstr
Originally Posted by 2legit2quit
Nuts all the way to protect what threads need protected & then place the rod on top of two blocks of 2x12’s

Run over that sumbitch w your tractor


Yes, I do have a degree in redneck engineering, why do you ask ?


laffin
That engineering degree might come in handy when your pluggin that hole in your tractor tire! laugh


Are you related to my grandpa ? He too was excellent at pointing out flaws in my engineering suggestions
This is the tool you need for making workmanlike bends in small diameter rod.

[Linked Image from images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com]

https://www.amazon.com/Eastwood-For...mp;psc=1&refRID=G8BRX8G19N0NRK0263ZZ
I'd loan it to my brother in law. He'd damn sure bend it.
Originally Posted by gregintenn
I'd loan it to my brother in law. He'd damn sure bend it.

Ya, but would you ever get it back!?
Originally Posted by pal
This is the tool you need for making workmanlike bends in small diameter rod.

[Linked Image from images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com]

https://www.amazon.com/Eastwood-For...mp;psc=1&refRID=G8BRX8G19N0NRK0263ZZ
Mine's bigger, cheaper, and came from Harbor Freight.
Originally Posted by tpcollins
I have a piece of 10-24 x 6” threaded rod that I need to bend a 3/4” wide notch in - anywhere from 1/8” - 3/16” deep. I need the threads intact on the last 1/2” of the 1 7/8” end. I’ll lop off about 2” of the other end and will need the last 1/2: afterwards on intact threads.


I'll play......am I close????

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Or this??????

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Originally Posted by Barney_Fife
I'll play......am I close????

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And with perfect threads too!!
The quality of all thread Rod does vary, but I am extremely doubtful you're going to be able to bend it as you desire without it breaking or losing structural integrity.

Of course heating it and bending it on a radius like the inside of a sheave may work, but for me I would still be concerned about the unknown structural weakness occurring.

Maybe I am wrong but would it be possible to modify an eye bolt to your needs more readily?

I guess pictures would indeed help
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
Originally Posted by pal
This is the tool you need for making workmanlike bends in small diameter rod.

[Linked Image from images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com]

https://www.amazon.com/Eastwood-For...mp;psc=1&refRID=G8BRX8G19N0NRK0263ZZ


Mine's bigger, cheaper, and came from Harbor Freight.


Then mine is guaranteed to be better quality. wink

This tool is specifically designed to bend rod up to (IIRC) 3/8" diameter. It does a superb job on even stainless steel.
Originally Posted by 2legit2quit
Nuts all the way to protect what threads need protected & then place the rod on top of two blocks of 2x12’s

Run over that sumbitch w your tractor


Yes, I do have a degree in redneck engineering, why do you ask ?


Did you stay at Holiday Inn Express? grin
Originally Posted by Oldman3
Originally Posted by 2legit2quit
Nuts all the way to protect what threads need protected & then place the rod on top of two blocks of 2x12’s

Run over that sumbitch w your tractor


Yes, I do have a degree in redneck engineering, why do you ask ?


Did you stay at Holiday Inn Express? grin



It’s like you people know me 🤷🏻‍♂️ Wtf ?
Just realized I have an Imgur account. I downloaded the pic but when I tried to upload it the file is still too damn large.

I’ll figure out how to bend it.

A “bend” may have been a poor choice of word, should have said: I want to put a 3/4” kink about an 1/8” deep with the ends of the rods in the same alignment.
Originally Posted by tpcollins
I’ll figure out how to bend it.



So was I close at interpreting with either of my two above photos??????
Originally Posted by Barney_Fife
Originally Posted by tpcollins
I’ll figure out how to bend it.



So was I close at interpreting with either of my two above photos??????


Thanks Barney, the bottom photo is exactly what I’m trying to do. I realize the bends will have some rounding in them as well.
Originally Posted by CashisKing
The quality of all thread Rod does vary, but I am extremely doubtful you're going to be able to bend it as you desire without it breaking or losing structural integrity.

Of course heating it and bending it on a radius like the inside of a sheave may work, but for me I would still be concerned about the unknown structural weakness occurring.

Maybe I am wrong but would it be possible to modify an eye bolt to your needs more readily?

I guess pictures would indeed help


+
Originally Posted by tpcollins
Just realized I have an Imgur account. I downloaded the pic but when I tried to upload it the file is still too damn large.

I’ll figure out how to bend it.

A “bend” may have been a poor choice of word, should have said: I want to put a 3/4” kink about an 1/8” deep with the ends of the rods in the same alignment.


Weld two eyes together with the rod sticking out to opposite sides. Cut the eyes off on one side (150 degrees of arc) so you have a droop loop.
All thread coupler nuts could be useful.
He is putting a camel hump in a straight rod.
Buy about 3 ft so you can screw it up a few times.
Originally Posted by CashisKing
The quality of all thread Rod does vary, but I am extremely doubtful you're going to be able to bend it as you desire without it breaking or losing structural integrity.


No schit - it broke. I probably should have tried some heat from a torch.

But it was a cheap threaded rod anyway. I’ve got some 4” stainless steel screws that I can take the head off and use a torch on. I’ll pick up a threaded coupler and see if that will make it easier.
With all the stress risers that threads create in rod, you really don't want to be bending it, not even hot. Especially the really cheap grade 0 (not a typo) stuff you get at the local hardware store. Get yourself some 3/16 solid rod, cut and bend to shape, then use a die to thread the ends as needed. The major diameter is a teensy bit shy of where it should be, and it's probably just mild steel, but I bet you're not putting any real load on this are you?

Oh, and if that's just not possible and you have to use all-thread, then concentrate the heat on the inside of the bend, so you're more likely to be compressing rather than stretching.
Originally Posted by Scott_Thornley
With all the stress risers that threads create in rod, you really don't want to be bending it, not even hot. Especially the really cheap grade 0 (not a typo) stuff you get at the local hardware store. Get yourself some 3/16 solid rod, cut and bend to shape, then use a die to thread the ends as needed. The major diameter is a teensy bit shy of where it should be, and it's probably just mild steel, but I bet you're not putting any real load on this are you?

Oh, and if that's just not possible and you have to use all-thread, then concentrate the heat on the inside of the bend, so you're more likely to be compressing rather than stretching.



Sounds like the best bet to me
Originally Posted by tpcollins
I have a piece of 10-24 x 6” threaded rod that I need to bend a 3/4” wide notch in - anywhere from 1/8” - 3/16” deep. I need the threads intact on the last 1/2” of the 1 7/8” end. I’ll lop off about 2” of the other end and will need the last 1/2: afterwards on intact threads.

I thought of clamping it against a 3/4” wide piece of metal and sticking it to a longer piece, and then putting 2 narrow pieces of metal on the opposite side thick enough to allow it to bend and clamp the hell out of it in the vice.

I suppose heating it with a torch would help but I only need the bend it in about an 1/8”.

Any suggestions would be appreciated. (I have a pic that I can upload but the file is too large).




Cut a piece of 10-24 rod 12" long and put 4 nuts on the 6" section that you need with 2 nuts at either end of your deflection. Line the nut flats up and clamp all 4 nuts loosely in a 6" vice. Carefully tap a slow wedge under the area of your deflection (between the inner nuts) until you get the bend you need.
Cut the long end off and smooth your threads.
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