They won't win another election in out lifetime, which is exactly what the Democrats are going for.

IF they are complicit? I don't think there is any doubt. Most of them never supported President Trump.

After what's happened the last few days, I'm very suspicious that some of the leading R's have been in on this the whole time to dump Trump, with McConnell at the top of the list.

The swamp is made up of both parties...

Haha. elections are a figment of the imagination

Short memories sometimes,

Some around here seem to forget the 2015-16 Primary season.

The Donald was never high on their list of favorite men.

Some with BIG political ambitions had/have their feelers hurt.

They were just typical fair weather politicians. As long as Trump was popular, it was advantageous to be on the team. As soon as any weakness is seen, most of them flee like homos in a hard core mosque.

There will be no impeachment.

Duh? As Q said, "Follow the wives". Sheesh, RC. I mean, "Dayom" as in WTF already? Bro.

Can you say, "Sold out for some great nuts and big bucks"?

That would make a good bumper sticker.

I could see a scenario where Pelosi takes it to the brink and then they stage a moment where Biden steps in and calls for it to end and then we have to listen to Democrats and the media [bleep] all over themselves about how Biden is the greatest uniter in the history of politics.

BINGO!

that would be classic Dem strategy. Good thinking!

The first day after the 6th, they were upset because the media fired them up. But vast majority came to their senses since then.

This is Trump’s party.

So far, in the 25th amendment hearing, 160 Republican cowards have given a "no vote".

It's called the Uniparty. There is no difference between career Republicans and Democrats. Don't you guys read Sundance on Conservative Treehouse?

The political elite doesn't represent us flag- waving regular folk that just want to be left alone. Nope, sold to China.

Do you think they are not???????????????

MM

They win when they lose, because, my friend, they still get voted in.

It isnt IF you, win or lose, but how you play the game.

Equal opportunity scum.

Its HOW you play the game.

Wasn't it the great pro football coach, Vince Lombardi, who said, "Winning isn't everything; it's the only thing."

Without winning, we're just pissing in the wind.

L.W.

There is a lot more pressure to do something when your in charge. For 7 years the Republicans said they had a plan to replace Obama care, when they had the house, senate and Trump they had nothing. They are happy to be in the rocking chair doing business as usual!

And yes, they keep getting elected, it costs a billion + dollars to get elected president, how many outsiders can raise that much dough?

Lots of traitors have been exposed .

That is the beauty of the last 90 days.

No difference between democrats and republicans. Trump needs to start a 3rd party.

So our third party candidate can get cheated too! I am looking forward to that!

Most of the members would be from the current R party. The Dems would LOVE that. They would win every seat where the 3d party's on the ballot, at all levels. No, the way to win is to primary out all of the current officials.

Go back to 1912. Former pres. Teddy Roosevelt lost the nomination to Taft so he started a 3d party, the Processive, aka Bull Moose. It got Woodrow Wilson elected.
Or look at 1992. Pres Bush likely would have defeated Bill Clinton but billionaire Ross Perot ran as an independent. He campaigned as a conservative and pulled a bunch of Bush's votes - which left Clinton as president. Many think Perot did it on purpose to defeat Bush as he knew he had no chance to win.

There is no “if”. They showed their hands.

I agree.

this

We need a conservative Stalin to come out and purge the GOP

Almost all the democrats were elected using votes from the cheating vote machines. So most of congress is not legally in office. Their votes do not count.

"There's no difference between Republicans and Democrats"..... Well, I'm glad some of y'all are finally figuring this out.

I would say there are 80 to 85 million patriots which love the republic and do not want cheating, lying, and thieving anti-American liberal socialist communist marxist politicians running the country.

Oh hell yeah

And it would be celebration and shoe in for a Nobel Prize for “calming a nation on the brink”


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Nobody will ever WIN an election in this country ever again.

The stage is set, the process is clear, the vote of We The People is a thing of the past. From this day forward, politicians from both parties will be Selected, not elected.

Disagree. Why should Trump’s people leave? It would be easier to get rid of the RINOs and keep the infrastructure.

Trump grew the GOP by multiple millions. That hasn’t happened in decades.

How are you going to “get rid of the RINOs” , in a RIGGED Fraudulent election system.?

I don't think Biden is smart enough to think of that.

BTW: Five Republican congessmen, including cheny from Wyoming, have said they will vote to impeach Trump. I hiope you wyoming people have a strong candidate to run against her in the primary.

THAT!


About right - akin to swimming UP Niagara Falls...


I'm betting there will....


Anybody think that's gonna make a difference next time?

Think they can get one strong enough to beat Dominion and Biden’s “largest most advances election fraud network ever developed”. If Trump couldn’t do it, what makes anyone think a lesser man/woman can.

Its all for Nancy and optics.

Washington politics has been corrupted for generations. It's not going to get fixed easily. Ever wonder how deeply corrupted idiot like Pelosi keeps getting re-elected? It's rigged. They've been rigging elections for generations. It's just got so convoluted this time because Trump has so much support. Our institutions have been corrupted so much that we have no where to turn without running into a brick wall. Our judiciary is deeply corrupted to the point even Trump's three appointees will not lift a finger to support the Constitution they took an oath to defend. Courts can make laws out of whole cloth but are powerless to enforce them.

Our nation has been brought to the brink of extinction by powerfully corrupt politicians of both parties. McConnell and his leadership team has never supported President Trump. He scares the Hell out of them. He has been and continues to be their greatest threat.

This stolen election must not stand or we'll soon wake up under the sword of Communism. The politicians that orchestrated this steal must be arrested and punished. We must elect people that are sworn to defend and honor the Constitution and it's not going to be easy. The public has been wooed by the socialist media for too long. our social platforms are owned and operated by socialists that are defying the Constitution and what this country's founders intended.

We must purge Washington of the elitist asses that make up the establishment class that has been growing fat on taxpayers money. John McCain swore to vote to remove the ACA ever since it was rammed through congress and codified by Roberts. His hate for Trump made him turn traitor and vote to keep it. He died a bitter old man and his family will never get over the legacy he left.

I said this the day after the damned election and before in this board and no one seems to pay any attention.

Of course, McConnell was in on it from the phuquing start. Look, I’ve seen idiots on here make fun of Trump for appointing people like Chris Wray as head of the FBI after he fired Comey. They made fun of him for appointing swamp creatures. Well, why did he do that? The answer is easy. Those were the only people who could make it through confirmation. Well, he could have just made some recess appointments and done away with the need for confirmation right? No he couldn’t have. Why not? Because Mitch McConnell kept the senate in session for the entire term of Trump’s presidency for the express purpose of denying him the opportunity to make recess appointments.

So, throughout his presidency, Trump’s agenda was hindered and thwarted at every turn by imbedded swamp creatures who would not be rooted out and fired by their even swampier bosses. And most importantly, when the hour of need was at its greatest and the election was being stolen before our eyes, instead of having a justice department and federal law enforcement that was ready and willing to investigate, Trump had the likes of William Barr and Chris Wray who could send 17 agents to check on a garage pull, but who couldn’t be bothered with the most important election in or history.

The reason that was the case and the SOLE reason it was the case was because Mitch McConnell specifically kept Trump from doing differently.

Great post.

Did you say “if”?

I believe it’s “when”.

The "no difference" statement is bullchit. It's fun to say, but bullchit. Yes, they collude for their own self-interests and power, but there are fundamental differences in philosophy. If there were truly no difference, why would anyone be upset about who won?

There SHOULD BE fundamental differences in philosophy yes, but does that come through in ACTION or merely in how fast they’re comfortable screwing us?

I think that’s the point.

Conservatism being delay, we’d all prefer a slow road to hell over the supersonic road chosen by Leftists, but that doesn’t mean that those in R party are fundamentally different from D; just that they’re too weak to do anything based in their supposed principles.

Rank and file Republicans seem to have supported DJT, otherwise he wouldn't have won the election in 2016 and then received over 74 million votes in 2020.

The 74 million votes that DJT received this past November was the second greatest number of votes for POTUS that any candidate from any political party has ever received, about 9 million more than he received in 2016.

I don't know what DJT's legacy will be, but he did save us from at least four years of HRC as POTUS, so that has to count for something.

Even deeper than I ever imagined. If my representatives do not support Trump, I will not support them.

Some say 3rd party some say no.

I think it would make no difference because of those on the Republican side that did not like that brash guy from NY.

As far as rinos listen what they say BUT watch what they do.

If they don't match up folks in their states/local area need to get behind folks that will do the right thing.

It might not get done the first time but if it is wide spread just maybe it will get their attention.

Maybe not but it can't hurt much to let them know what they have been doing is not the right thing.

^^^^^Smart guy, and correct of course.^^^^^^

The R's have never quite managed to grasp the significance of that simple concept.

MM

I would also add that while it was raising money at record rate because of the popularity of Trump, the Republican Party devoted almost NONE of that money towards hiring high powered law firms to contest the high powered Democratic law firms who were busy over the last year going from state to state and changing the rules so that they could cheat.

Why? Well, part of it was that they didn’t want to be seen as being out of touch with the pandemic and as though they were trying to suppress votes. But the biggest part is that they weren’t going to lift a finger to help Trump. Just look at what they did after the election verses what they did in 2000. The Republican Party could have used its connections and money to get the best legal minds in the country on these cases. That’s what they did in 2000. That wasn’t George Bush who did that or even his campaign. It was the party. But the Republicans did absolutely nothing and offered no help to Trump despite the fact that damned near every single one of them who won this time around did so because of Trump.

Come what may, you’re a fool if you ever vote for establishment Republicans again.

well mcconnell did get the justice seated, no small event

So what? The biggest case of her life and she and Trump's other two were AWOL.

Let's all vote 3rd Party so we can get cheated by BOTH the Dems and Reps. The Republicans would suddenly learn how to cheat just like the Dems if a 3rd Party was even viable, which it ain't and which it won't be. Y'all who think we're gonna vote our way back into control are kidding yourselves.

I don't think a good many of the folks that voted are upset because a Democrat won and beat a Republican. Donald Trump is a Republican in name only. The Republicans disliked him and the Democrats hated him. Trump was his own man and understood the parasitic hold the 2 major parties have on us. The Republican politicians are happy to see him go. They put stumbling blocks in his way every chance they got. I voted for him because he wasn't a Republican, he is more a Populist and a man of the people. The only thing worse than a Republican is a Democrat. The only reason I stay registered as a Democrat is so I can vote in their presidential primary. I've been thinking of changing to Populist or Libertarian. Or maybe No Party.

A Democrat didn't win and a Republican didn't get beat.

You can register Tea Party, Populist, or Libertarian and still vote Republican for President or Senate or whatever. Remember how once upon a time the Tea Party had the Republicans about to crap on themselves. Got their attention.

Really? Most of those oldsters are dead or shixting themselves in the nursing home as we speak. I hear this crap about forgetting the past and moving ahead. I don't see how you move ahead after being so completely and utterly f u cked in the ass. The process is compromised and first you have to admit it is. If you admit it is, then you admit that Trump should be President. All the Democrats won't do that and half the Repukes are dancing to their tune, including the Cocaine Turtle.

You may be right. Trump was the outsider with no way to know who was who. The left organized a Psyop evaluation on Trump and deployed their tactics the whole time he was in office. They tried desperately to break him mentally. They wanted to goad him into making moves that they could use in the media to sway people that he was dangerous. They called him racist at every turn. What the President has been through over the last five years would break most people. He is one tough dude.

Think about it. The entire media, academia, political class, judicial branch, corporations, big tech, and celebrity constantly beating on him every minute of every day. Yet he accomplished more than any President in my lifetime.

And look at what good getting three "constitutionalists" on the supreme court did for the people, NOTHING!!!. When they were needed to resolve the most important issue of the day they were MIA.

The only allies Trump had was SOME of us.

It has all been disgusting to witness.

It was not McConnell alone who kept the Senate in session to block Trump from making recess appointments.

I was a procedural rule voted on by the Senate.

To pass 100% all 100 US. Senators have to vote in favor .

All it would have taken was (1) Republican Senator to vote NO, and it would not have been possible. That did not happen.

Only (1), let that sink in, when people claim that there is a difference between the D and the R.

So, if this is the reason WHY, is it safe to say that DNI Ratcliffe is also a back stabbing Swamp Creature.

The elections have been a big part of this, but also very important is the idiots that have been appointed to jobs within the federal gov. The top guy gets appointed, and then names his buddies on down the line, who appoint their buddies, etc. You then have a network of non-elected bureaucrats that really control the gov. Many reports of Trumps minions lying to him, giving him bad information, which led to some mistakes. Also the point about getting someone through the placement process. The deck was stacked against him from the start. Amazing that he accomplished what he did while fighting congress, his own staff, and the bureaucrats.

Agreed. Paul Ryan also.

So what now???????????

Lots of reasons why & how it happened, so where do we go from here?

MM

Where was Rand Paul? Where was Ted Cruz?

They all hate Trump, some went along for perceived political gain.

But, when they think he's down for the count, they pile on.

I hope they all get their comeuppance.

I'm not forgetting who did what. And to that bunch, don't come knocking at my door for money, next cycle.

And, don't think we'll bury the hatchet. We just may need it.

This movement needs to stay strong, put up real candidates to challenge swampsters.

I give Trump credit for trying to "drain the swamp". Seems the swamp was a lot larger and a lot deeper than he figured. All of D.C. is a swamp. They all want things back like they were when they were wheeling and dealing with the Chicoms and whomever they could sell out to. They go to D.C., stay for decades, become multi millionaires on Senate or Congressional salaries. On the surface, that's just not possible. But it's all too common.

DF

Exactly!

This is like being in group. You men are really having a breakthrough! They all hate you.

Really, more elections.

Didn’t we just do that and they stole it, what makes you think the next election , or the election after that will be any different, or an honest one.

News flash, you can’t fix election fraud to this magnitude, by holding more elections.

That’s like taking a bottle of sour milk out of the fridge, putting it back and saying to yourself, “ Maybe it will be better next time”.

Trump may have still accomplished exactly what I wanted him to accomplish. I wanted him to blowup the Republican Party and destroy the current system. It remains to be seen if the Republicans will survive this. And with the two party facade gone, I don’t think the Dems can survive their overreaching.

The first thing one has to realize in any sort of fight be it war, politics, or whatever is that there is actually a fight. Then you have to be able to assess the sides. People now realize there is a very real political struggle and they should have no illusions as to how the sides are divided up.

...and people should have NO illusions that this war, battle, fight can be fought at the ballot box.

We have witnessed first hand that our vote no longer is an arrow in our quiver.

There are a lot of slow mofo's out there...and here.

I think that the number of people in America that will respond as you suggest & think is much smaller than needed to either stop the Demons, or take control.

There are LOOOOOOOOOOOTS more Sheeple than Peeple, especially many with the ability to think clearly & onjectively & fully understand the magnitude of what has happened.

As for the Demons over-reaching, yes they will, but their chance of getting away with it are also higher than ever before.................maybe, & to a point.

It's very possible that their over-reach on certain things may fully explode in their faces & on the country. Hard to say.

But, we're gonna find out, & I don't think it will be long either................they can't wait to get started with the whippings & the power plays.

MM

The ballot box is dead.

Buried.

MM

What a load of garbage coming out of Pelosi's mouth right now.

there will be others and we'll be glad she is there...glass half full

The GOP is still patting themselves on the azz for stabbing Nixon in the back. Remind me again, when was the last time you heard a Dem say, “Those Republicans sure are fair and just!!!”????

I’m actually rather surprised and even shocked at the number of smart, educated people that continue to believe that elections matter after what we have witnessed here.

The Truth does not abide in her cold little devil worshiper heart.

Whenever you fight in politics or whatever, there is always the chance you’ll lose. Liberty is the underdog. I don’t know what’s going to happen, but I suspect economic collapse or some outside agency could drastically alter things at some point.

We’re not going to have a revolution of rednecks marching on the capital, nor should one be advocated. But our economic position is precarious and if it goes south in a hurry, the balance of power could shift back to more localized models.

It's the [bleep] brain damage brought on by decades of staring at a screen to find out what is real.

Very well said, like I say we can't let this continue without doing something.

The fear, or threat of losing an election is no longer a factor.

From this day forward, your vote is as useless as teats on a Bull.

Accept it, or not the choice is yours. But trying to fight this battle as if we still have a two party system, that evil can be defeated at the ballot box, has loser written all over it.

From the ground up, not from the top down.

Think nationally, act locally.

pelosi just goes from bad to worse and doesn't give it a thought. what she is saying doesn't matter as much to her as the fact she is still the speaker. she knows that it is pleasing to the radicals by being as outrageous as possible

That's for F'n sure. Snakes. EVERY fu ckin one of em.

We agree

Well, duh, everybody knows that.

Right, small local elections are immune from Biden’s Election Fraud Network.

Got it thanks.

Not hardly.
Read the posts.

Plenty here talking third party, we will primary them out, start at the local level and move up, Trump in 2024, etc.etc.etc.

All elections are administered locally.

Of course, we can just throw our hands up, be defeated, and bitch about things. That's much easier, wouldn't you say?

I’m not throwing my hands up ,but I’m not naive enough to believe that we can fix voter fraud by holding more elections.

That's certainly correct, if we expect to win allowing the same tactics to be used. I think there are some key battles to be won, and that's where the focus should be.

These Supposed Republicans who are crossing the aisle to support and vote for Trump's Impeachment...

These people need to switch parties or be taken out of office, any way it can happen...

I sure hope Alaskans are sick of Murcowski and folks in Wyoming are sick of Dick Cheney's daughter...

Trump accomplished a lot, including flushing much of what had been hidden. Now, it's up to us to do something about it.

One thing, and foremost, is to work on local legislatures to clean up the election process. Dominion machines should be eliminated, paper ballots should become the standard.

Dominion is a Canadian based company, but Canada reportedly uses paper ballots. They're smart enough to not go down that slippery slope.

Election reform won't happen in every states, but needs to start when and where it can.

We need to support candidates who are serious about election reform, flush those who aren't.

Honest elections can go a long way to reestablish trust in the process.

DF

The focus should be to cut the head off the snake as the First Chip to Fall.

Actually, voter fraud COULD be fixed. I’m just not sure it ever will be fixed. For instance, Texas largely avoided the kind of thing that happened in Atlanta despite having more large urban schit holes than Georgia. Why? Because the governor and the AG took a hard line on voter fraud. They also vigorously fought some of the more egregious mail-in ballot schemes...and won. They also rejected the Dominion system.

If there is the political will, fraud can be limited. It will never be eliminated but the impact could be limited. Not saying that it will be or that it is even very likely, but it could be done.

Is something special about today?

Just normal for that deranged, senile witch of a woman................or what once might have passed for one.

MM

Looks like the response to McConnell's trial balloon changed his mind:

McConnell Rejects Emergency Session On Impeachment

Fact.

So where is the solution?

MM

If new party gets Trump votes and then caucuses with Republicans would that be a solution. It would get people who are more conservative and loyal to the voters than the RINOs

Be mindful of the Venezuela model. The agressive left cheated, stole the election (reportedly with the help of Dominion voting machines), the right started fighting among themselves, fragged and there is now no viable right. The left rules with an iron hand.

Could happen here. So, be careful of "new party" talk. A good house cleaning at the GOP is probably the way to go. And, let the Dems fight it out among themselves, frag and start losing. They're a potential powder keg, likely to overplay their hand with greed and lust of absolute power. GOP needs to be ready to start taking them out, one at a time.

DF

Remember: Today's Republicans are essentially the liberal Democrats of the 1960's and the Democrats are little more than 1960's Communists.

They won't win one regardless with the Dominion voting machines. Wouldn't suprise me one bit if they jump tickets to democrats just to hold to their seats.

Kennedy would be labeled a right-wing extremist by today's cancel culture.

Yep, JFK would not fit the current Dem profile. Way too conservative.

DF

The republicrats have killed the party just like the whigs did. Its time for a third party no matter the cost. Nothing to gain by staying a republican.

We've had "third parties" for a long time, but you wouldn't vote for them.

Besides, why the hell do you STILL think that voting could possibly do any good anymore???? Aren't you paying attention??

.........The repuuuuubs who supported this impeachment are weak, spineless, gutless and a disgrace to their offices. .....This impeachment DID NOT even come close to any Constitutional standards. NONE!

But then again, the demCRAPs not only have and do oppose the principles the constitution, it is becoming clear that many repuuuuuubs oppose the principles of the constitution as well.

What a complete schit show today.

Yep. Today's Republicans look like JFK and today's Democrats look like Stalin.

William Jennings Bryan was considered a dangerous left wing radical for wanting our money backed by gold and silver instead of just gold. With today's socialism payed for with fiat money he would be considered right wing radical to the right of Atilla the Hun.

All of America's Founders would be considered horrible racist, sexist, fascist, bigoted xenophobes. Not that I would have a problem with it.

Right wing radicals are free people with morality who want to be left alone.
Atilla they are not and never have been.

All of those politicians are vacillating hypocrites tossed about with every wave & shifting sand.

They have no roots, no principles, just raw lust for power. The Bible has addressed that:

...that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting,... (Eph 4:14)

DF

Amen brother.

So how can the Republic be reclaimed?

With guns, death, righteous and honorable men who are willing to sacrifice their lives at a minimum, an eye single to the purpose, and utter humility. Good luck finding enough of #3, #4, and #5.

God help me to fill my roll then.

"Would be"? They are...

Cancel culture bunch hard at work to make that the accepted dogma...

DF