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Posted By: MM879 Is our Postal System Failing - 01/19/21
The postal service in my area has averaged 18-25 days to service a common letter. I have had several cancellation notices for for checks that have been issued 10-15 days early. It is common to log onto the bank to issue checks and have the calendar blanked out 15 days in advance. I wonder if this is a push from the businesses to go online or a failure of the postal service. I have seen evidence of both.
We are seeing the same thing here. My folks are about 350 miles away and it's taking 2 to 3 weeks to receive letters from them.
Posted By: 5sdad Re: Is our Postal System Failing - 01/19/21
My sister-in-law sent boxes of Christmas baking to a number of people. The arrived after extremely long periods of time, in a rather stale condition. She was wondering if the $50 insurance would be applicable in these cases and was going to go and check. It should be pointed out that she lives in the D.C. area, which is well-known for its hiring policies.


My experience is very positive about our PO and mail service.

I have mailed flat rate packages all over the US and some even arrive before the expected delivery date.

Mail to our roadside box is very dependable.
Aww, don’t worry Demorats will give em 50-100 billion for all the great work with mail in ballots and all will be good again. But the union is going to demand half of that for raises and benefits. Then another 25% to make up for the shortfall in retiree health care and pensions. Then they will be broke again in 2 years.
Posted By: MM879 Re: Is our Postal System Failing - 01/19/21
Most companies have automatic credit reporting for billing. If the postal service causes a late payment it is your responsibility to get the reporting company to request a credit report change.
Originally Posted by MM879
The postal service in my area has averaged 18-25 days to service a common letter.


Sure glad I don't live in your area. I'm a dinosaur who still writes a check and mails it for all my bills. Never, ever, had any kind of experience like 3 to 4 weeks for a letter to get delivered.
Blame Amazon. I have a client who delivers mail on rural routes. She says it is 12 hours a day 7 days a week delivering packages. With Covid, everyone is just sitting at home and ordering stuff all day.
Originally Posted by Swifty52
Aww, don’t worry Demorats will give em 50-100 billion for all the great work with mail in ballots and all will be good again. But the union is going to demand half of that for raises and benefits. Then another 25% to make up for the shortfall in retiree health care and pensions. Then they will be broke again in 2 years.


This!
I guess you guys didn't get the memo's regarding COVID.

LOL
Posted By: Teal Re: Is our Postal System Failing - 01/19/21
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Blame Amazon. I have a client who delivers mail on rural routes. She says it is 12 hours a day 7 days a week delivering packages. With Covid, everyone is just sitting at home and ordering stuff all day.



Amazon delivered 67% of all their own packages in Amazon trucks. Could be real bad for the USPS if they haven't...
Socialized services always end up "failing", at least according to the standards that capitalism creates. There is no incentive to work faster, or more efficiently, or more effectively, or more cheaply, so the service will continue to go up in cost as its real value decreases. Eventually, people will collect ridiculously high incomes to do no work at all. Yes, we are nearly there on the curve.
Posted By: MM879 Re: Is our Postal System Failing - 01/19/21
Originally Posted by sactoller
Originally Posted by Swifty52
Aww, don’t worry Demorats will give em 50-100 billion for all the great work with mail in ballots and all will be good again. But the union is going to demand half of that for raises and benefits. Then another 25% to make up for the shortfall in retiree health care and pensions. Then they will be broke again in 2 years.


This!

Sad but, true. The pubic sector is in the cross hairs of the far left. They get religion when it comes to payments. It is only a matter of time before new law is created to avoid payment of public sector retirements.
I don't think it is failing, just overwhelmed for a time.

In the weeks leading up to Christmas I had a priority mail "2 day express" window envelope take 11 days to get across the country. Since then some things have taken a bit longer than normal but not excessively so.

Tracking seems to be screwed up, twice this year I've had packages listed as delayed but then they show up on time or a day earlier than originally expected. Tracking for a package from Midway that was delivered on 1/14 still shows expected delivery of 1/15. I keep checking periodically to see if they will ever figure that out.

Another package sent from CT on 1/14 via "small flat rate box" showed an expected delivery of 1/19 from the day it was mailed and the status today, 1/19, is "out for delivery". Five days ain't quick but it's right on time according to their original estimate.

It pays to check rates when mailing something. I recently sent payment for a gunbroker purchase in a padded envelope due to my previous experience with "2 day express", calculating the price showed the expected delivery for first class package service to be the same day as for flat rate priority mail, except the priority mail cost twice as much.




Certainly seems like it.
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Blame Amazon. I have a client who delivers mail on rural routes. She says it is 12 hours a day 7 days a week delivering packages. With Covid, everyone is just sitting at home and ordering stuff all day.


LMAO that’s the only damn thing that made em any money. They only lost 4.5 billion in 3 mos.

https://about.usps.com/newsroom/nat...s-second-quarter-fiscal-2020-results.htm

Compared to the same quarter last year, First-Class Mail revenue increased by $89 million, or 1.4 percent, despite a volume decline of 29 million pieces, or 0.2 percent. This growth was due to one-time mailings associated with the 2020 U.S. Census, otherwise First-Class Mail revenue and volume would have each declined. Marketing Mail revenue declined by $94 million, or 2.5 percent, on a volume decline of 604 million pieces, or 3.4 percent. Secular declines in mail have continued to negatively affect mail revenue and volume, and the Postal Service believes those declines will be exacerbated by the effects of the COVID-19 pandemic.

Meanwhile, Shipping and Packages revenue increased by $386 million, or 7.1 percent, on a volume increase of 12 million pieces, or 0.8 percent, compared to the same quarter last year. In the near term the Postal Service anticipates that these trends will accelerate as the nation experiences a surge in e-commerce as a result of quarantines, shelter-in-place orders and travel and logistics restrictions in connection with the COVID-19 pandemic. The Postal Service has and will continue to serve its customers during this crises through the delivery of medicine, essential consumer staples, benefits checks, and important information, but does not expect its package revenue growth over the medium to long term to offset its losses in mail service revenue caused by COVID-19.

Brennan added, "We are grateful for the heroism and commitment of our 630,000 postal employees who continue to serve the American public during this pandemic, and we look forward to working with policymakers on ensuring the solvency of the Postal Service.”

Total operating expenses were $22.3 billion for the quarter, an increase of $2.8 billion, or 14.2 percent, compared to the same quarter last year. Workers' compensation increased by $2.2 billion due to a significant decline in interest rates as the COVID-19 pandemic weighed on the U.S. economy. Excluding costs associated with discount rate changes, actuarial revaluation, and amortization of unfunded liabilities, which are outside of management's control, expenses increased by $328 million, or 1.8 percent, compared to the same quarter last year.

The net loss for the quarter was $4.5 billion compared to a net loss of $2.1 billion for the same quarter last year. Controllable loss for the quarter was $792 million, a slight decrease compared to the controllable loss of $806 million reported for the same quarter last year.
The post office is an example of how socialism fails.



Midway usually gets their mail to me in 10 days or slightly less.
Posted By: Teal Re: Is our Postal System Failing - 01/19/21
They spend like 6 million a year on leased trailers that don't ever move all that often.

Its why they started moving trailers even empty or 1/3 full - which while they're being utilized for miles, they're not being utilized for efficiency.
USPS is unreliable here and has been since we got a new postmaster. The previous postmaster demanded professionalism. Now not so much. They are careless and sloppy with our mail.
Originally Posted by Hogwild7
USPS is unreliable here and has been since we got a new postmaster. The previous postmaster demanded professionalism. Now not so much. They are careless and sloppy with our mail.


THIS !!!


Pisses me off that this know it all was appointed and then screwed everything up worse that it already was.
Originally Posted by Swifty52

Brennan added, "We are grateful for the heroism and commitment of our 630,000 postal employees who continue to serve the American public during this pandemic


Heroes...all of them.
I've had my share of problems with the post office but I hope somehow we always have a way to pay bills that don't require being online or a credit card. If you can't mail a check to someone for a payment then it's going to be electronic in some form or another. We shouldn't be forced into that system of paying unless we want to do so ourselves. Letting the post office die will do that unless the private sector can take it's place.
Posted By: EdM Re: Is our Postal System Failing - 01/19/21
Originally Posted by ipopum


My experience is very positive about our PO and mail service.

I have mailed flat rate packages all over the US and some even arrive before the expected delivery date.

Mail to our roadside box is very dependable.


Same here.
Haven't had any problems here.
It's been failing for years.
I've always took up for USPS because I spent 31 years there as a rural mail carrier, and my wife spent 31 years as a postmaster. I've been retired for over 5 years, and my wife for 15. I can't take up for them anymore, as it's obvious that service has taken a bad turn downward. I started seeing it go down right before I retired, and was so glad to get out. I've been as pizzed as many of you have at the chitty service.

I'm not an expert, but here are my reasons............

The post office was originally set up to deliver letter size mail, and to this day, their entire system is still geared towards this, despite a huge drop in first class letter size mail. In today's world, it is the package business that rules the roost, and USPS is simply not designed to handle a lot of packages.

By government regulations, USPS is mandated to deliver the mail to EVERY household in this country. They do not have the luxury that UPS and Fed-Ex does of not going to out of the way places. Those delivery services let the post office deliver for them.

The hiring practices of USPS are without a doubt, a large part pf what is going on now. I worked with a lot lazy people, but I also worked with a lot of professional managers, who knew how to get the job down. It's not like that anymore.

A few years ago, there was a new Postmaster General put in charge of USPS. He immediately instituted a lot of cuts, that have resulted in shortages of service.......more than most people know about.

Covid............it's affected the post office and the delivery of the mail just like it has almost everything else.

USPS is supposed to be an agency that operates separately of the government. But, everything it does is controlled by the Feds. At one time, there was a huge amount of surplus, and money in USPS retirement fund, and when Congress discovered that, they took it. The post office cannot serve two masters...........and that's exactly what is going on.
Originally Posted by EdM
Originally Posted by ipopum


My experience is very positive about our PO and mail service.

I have mailed flat rate packages all over the US and some even arrive before the expected delivery date.

Mail to our roadside box is very dependable.


Same here.


I've never had a problem-----I use the PO a lot.
Originally Posted by JamesJr
I've always took up for USPS because I spent 31 years there as a rural mail carrier, and my wife spent 31 years as a postmaster. I've been retired for over 5 years, and my wife for 15. I can't take up for them anymore, as it's obvious that service has taken a bad turn downward. I started seeing it go down right before I retired, and was so glad to get out. I've been as pizzed as many of you have at the chitty service.

I'm not an expert, but here are my reasons............

The post office was originally set up to deliver letter size mail, and to this day, their entire system is still geared towards this, despite a huge drop in first class letter size mail. In today's world, it is the package business that rules the roost, and USPS is simply not designed to handle a lot of packages.

By government regulations, USPS is mandated to deliver the mail to EVERY household in this country. They do not have the luxury that UPS and Fed-Ex does of not going to out of the way places. Those delivery services let the post office deliver for them.

The hiring practices of USPS are without a doubt, a large part pf what is going on now. I worked with a lot lazy people, but I also worked with a lot of professional managers, who knew how to get the job down. It's not like that anymore.

A few years ago, there was a new Postmaster General put in charge of USPS. He immediately instituted a lot of cuts, that have resulted in shortages of service.......more than most people know about.

Covid............it's affected the post office and the delivery of the mail just like it has almost everything else.

USPS is supposed to be an agency that operates separately of the government. But, everything it does is controlled by the Feds. At one time, there was a huge amount of surplus, and money in USPS retirement fund, and when Congress discovered that, they took it. The post office cannot serve two masters...........and that's exactly what is going on.


I think, as far as out-of-the-way places go, you have it backward. Maybe it wasn't always the case, but the USPS won't bring packages out to my house. They leave whatever will fit down at the community mailboxes. I have to drive 30 minutes into town to get my USPS packages. On the other hand, Fed-Ex and UPS DO deliver right to my door.
Getting worse around here. Still waiting for a check that was mailed on 1/4. In the process of having that direct deposited. For the past 20 years that quarterly check was usually here within a week or less. This past year it's grown to a week and a half, this time, over two weeks.

Wasn't an issue prior to this year. Didn't go direct deposit, so I could put the sumbitch in whichever bank account needed some funds.

Buddy's wife sent out Christmas goodies to several of their friends this past go round. They live 50 miles from me. She sent them all in the same flat rate boxes and on the same day, Dec.10 I think?. People in FL, MT, CA and TX all got theirs before Christmas. Mine finally got here on 12/29.
The system is working well...my junk mail from the professional beggars arrives on time and in huge volume.
Haven' t bought a stamp since 1997.
It has gotten ridiculous across the board. I am not fond of automatic deductions from my checking account, and I only have a few bills a month. It now has gotten to the point where I have to mail a check within a day of receiving the bill and hope the check arrives on time. Bring back the Pony Express. I think it was faster.

In addition, some companies appear to be very slow in crediting payments. Spectrum is pretty bad. Then there was the recent Verizon payment that was presented and cleared electronically way ahead of the due date. The next month's bill showed that I didn't pay, and I was hit with a late fee. I finally got to speak to a person, who told me that their records showed that I hadn't paid, and that I would need to take it up with my bank to get my account re-credited. Really? I got the clearing information from my bank and then spoke to another Verizon person who initiated an investigation. I got credited with the payment as of the date of the investigation but they did not take off the late fee. It wasn't worth another hour or more of my time to attempt (with no assurance of success) to get the late charge reversed.

I am about to surrender and go with automatic deductions or online bill paying.
Wasn't this the intent by Trump when he appointed Louis DeJoy? It was his changes that has caused all of these issues.
Might have been said already...It’s a scam!

Postal workers that aren’t of the reliable type of employee have found that they can get paid while waiting for the results of a COVID test to come back.

Worker only has to say he/she/it doesn’t feel good and they are told to stay home, get tested and not return to work until the test says they are negative.

Huge drain on manpower with individuals being off sick, faking being sick while they wait the 3-7 days at best for lab results.

🦫
Our family used to be able to enjoy two Netflixs DVD movies a week if we watched the one that came and put it in the mailbox the next morning. Since about Feb. 2020 we are lucky to be able to get one movie every 13-15 days at best. Streaming on Netflixs suxs as all the good flicks only come by USPS
i saw a thing on tv that said the PO is handling record volumes of mail and has record absenteeism that is affecting mail delivery times. given that easily 75% of my mail is garbage, i think they spend a lot of time shoveling schit. they need to jack up the price on the junk mailings to try and curb that.
As an outfitter I had one guide who was a postal employee. We were working on the ranch one day and he he scratched his arm on a mesquite tree. Barely broke the skin. He told me” If that happened at work I would get 45 days off with pay”.He worked at a bulk mail center taking rubber bands off the mail. The puss didn’t last long with my crew, I fired him. MAGA
18-23 days here.

We need to fold them up and dissolve them.
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Might have been said already...It’s a scam!

Postal workers that aren’t of the reliable type of employee have found that they can get paid while waiting for the results of a COVID test to come back.

Worker only has to say he/she/it doesn’t feel good and they are told to stay home, get tested and not return to work until the test says they are negative.

Huge drain on manpower with individuals being off sick, faking being sick while they wait the 3-7 days at best for lab results.

🦫



They’re essential.

Like teachers.

LOL
Back in 2019 I could not get the local post office to deliver my mail despite living across the street from it. The local postmaster promised to fix it but never did, I finally had to reach out to my dimocrat senator, even they couldn't get the post office to respond. In time the senator's office reached out to their USPS liaison in D.C. In time it came out that our letter carrier had been reassigned four months prior with no new carrier assigned to the route. We have a new carrier who delivers mail at most 3 days per week now. I'm signed up for the post office "Informed Delivery" service that emails me each morning with a scanned copy of what is supposed to be delivered, so when I get no mail despite having received the informed delivery scan, I know the carrier has skipped me yet again.

Living across from the post office, I see the same leased trucks sit there never moving month after month, at what cost?

I'm all for stripping the poor performing bums of their retirement, and privatizing the whole entity.
Hiring quotas

Taking up for and making excuses for postal employees that steal instead of throwing the book at them

Not being able to fire surly counter employees
that need to be fired and should have never been
hired in the first place

Not being able to fire or reprimand carriers that
hide in their trucks and sleep while customer's
letters and parcels sit in the back of the truck

Too many things to list and my near elderly
fingers tire easily this late
I have been shanked on some important mail that never got to me these last several years. My gripes are too numerous to name. I don't know what I dread more, the DMV or going to a Post Office.
Failing? They are already toast. Unfortunately they are who brings my crap up here. Otherwise I wanna see a new one that doesn't ryhme with Manazon
After I posted my first message yesterday (1/19), I received a package that was sent 3 day priority on 1/8. It was in Denver early morning 1/9, and took 10 days to go the last 100 miles.
My bills show up right on time! laugh
Originally Posted by JimFromTN
Wasn't this the intent by Trump when he appointed Louis DeJoy? It was his changes that has caused all of these issues.


Pretty much. The intent was to mess up the mail in ballots. Also trump didn’t like Amazon so he thought screwing up USPS would hurt Amazon.
Originally Posted by burrinho
Originally Posted by JimFromTN
Wasn't this the intent by Trump when he appointed Louis DeJoy? It was his changes that has caused all of these issues.


Pretty much. The intent was to mess up the mail in ballots. Also trump didn’t like Amazon so he thought screwing up USPS would hurt Amazon.



When you quote the Tennessee fairy, you lose any credibility that might have had............not saying you had any to begin with.
Posted By: Teal Re: Is our Postal System Failing - 01/20/21
USPS was in trouble before DeJoy.
LMAO, Trump has been in office 14 years to destroy the USPS. Has to be 14 years as that’s how long it’s been since they didn’t lose 2.5-8.5 billion per year. Think this year it’s going to be a record around 10.5-12 billion.
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