I guess this cuts both ways and incentive for Democrats in the Senate not to find Trump guilty
If Trump can run for office and decide to start his own party then that might be like Ross Perot hand the election to Clinton in 1992.
If he did not start his own party and ran the Primaries with Republicans then I think both some Republicans and perhaps lots of Democrats would not like that outcome.
The of course there are the midterms and that might worry Republicans are real lot if they thought about voting Trump as guilty.
Any predictions as to how the Senate vote will go.
Absolutely. 80% of the Legislature is corrupt. Trump promised to bring it down. They're terrified he can do it.
Trump won't have to bring any rinos down, his base, I guarantee you, will do it for him.
It wouldn't surprise me one bit that many Republitraitors will vote to impeach and to vote to remove when it gets to the Senate.
All the DC WHORES are afraid of Trump. They want his balls cut off. I'm seeing Trump Jr will be the new face of his movement. I was a never Trumper at first, I admit it. But, shortly into the primaries I started to like what he was saying. By his election I had been out for weeks delivering signs to the faithful.
We don't need a third party. We need to gut the GOP and transplant with conservative patriots and blue collar workers with half a brain.
MAGA
This is why they are impeaching him again. They want him out of politics. I'm pretty sure he can help change America and they are afraid he just might do that. The present congress does not want another non politician ever taking over the Whiter House again. It's their club and Mr. Trump was NOT invited to it.
We the people put him there. Now they hate us for it and want to take us out of the loop. Forever.
kwg
The swamp rinos love their job more than they hate Trump.
Even if they destroy his ability to hold office, they can't take his political power.
This Biden f uck er wants to force his climate change BS on Australia. Our Labor party are having a wet dream.
There won't be a 3rd party spinning off from the GOP. The GOP will fade to nothing and another 2nd party will result as a split between the Democrats.
Anyone who thinks a new party is a good idea should just imagine how happy you'd be if the dem split into the socialists and the dems. Got it?
Republicans could win every election if they would only do two simple things!
1) Separate Church and State
2) Run on term limits across the board
I'll add a third that would seal the deal
3) Get corporations out of the political process!
Anyone who thinks a new party is a good idea should just imagine how happy you'd be if the dem split into the socialists and the dems. Got it?
Pretty much already has happened.
I guess this cuts both ways and incentive for Democrats in the Senate not to find Trump guilty
If Trump can run for office and decide to start his own party then that might be like Ross Perot hand the election to Clinton in 1992.
If he did not start his own party and ran the Primaries with Republicans then I think both some Republicans and perhaps lots of Democrats would not like that outcome.
The of course there are the midterms and that might worry Republicans are real lot if they thought about voting Trump as guilty.
Any predictions as to how the Senate vote will go.
Uh, well since McConnell, Cornyn, Romney, and many others got rich from Chinese bribes.....and are traitors...... and dont want to be hung....
What do you think?
Anyone who thinks a new party is a good idea should just imagine how happy you'd be if the dem split into the socialists and the dems. Got it?
We did that and half the Rs voted for Perot so we got Clinton. As Rush says, vote the rinos out.
Really doesnt matter. Vote flipping .....
It only matters who counts the votes.
Too bad some cant connect the dots and get led astray by the deep states sucker points. Sheesh.
75% of Republican's "leadership" are communist, and 100% of the Democrats both rank and file voters and their leadership too.
We the People need to be We the People and stop trusting the government to do anything be abuse their power.
Quit paying for the destruction of your own kids.
Republicans could win every election if they would only do two simple things!
1) Separate Church and State
2) Run on term limits across the board
I'll add a third that would seal the deal
3) Get corporations out of the political process!
I'd add a fourth pt Republicans need to quit worrying and advocating against abortion. When you look at the figures and demographics of the women who use abortion for birth control not having more of their kids won't hurt the country more than the dems do. Conservative and religious women do not even consider having an abortion. The ones that do we don't need reproducing anyway. It's a real hotspot with all women and it's costing the conservative right elections. Leave the issue alone until you have total support of overturning roe vs wade by women. Mb
i think the country is more ready for a 3rd party than ever. just needs to be US first oriented like trumps original messaging with a strong individual who does not act like a 3 year old.
1.). There shouldn’t even be a trial. This whole process makes a mockery out of a judicial process. In a court of law what he said doesn’t event justify charges of inciting a riot.
2.) If there is a trial, Trump should be able to present every case of fraud. He should take 6 months doing so, tying up the Senate by filabusting his defense. After all, they are trying to impeach him for saying to his supporters the election was rigged and therefore they should riot. This is his chance to prove to the American public in a forum the media has to broadcast - that the election was actually rigged.
I think it's a wonderful idea to have a trial. He is obviously and clearly not guilty. We will get to see the Republican senators for who they are, although we mostly already know. I believe he will be found not guilty and maybe the prospect of him or his son running will keep the Republicans scared. For the most part our Republicans aren't much better than Democrats. If they were they would have fought certifying the electoral vote to hell and back and forced the election into the House of Representatives. The only political party I hate more than the Republicans right now is my own party, the Democrat party. Donald Trump was kind of a hybrid Populist/Libertarian, a man of the people and for liberty. I'm grateful that I got to vote for Reagan and him.
Republicans could win every election if they would only do two simple things!
1) Separate Church and State
2) Run on term limits across the board
I'll add a third that would seal the deal
3) Get corporations out of the political process!
Not a chance in hell, the only thing Republicans need to do to win elections is Out Bid the Democrats for control of Dominion.
Those that control the voting machines, control the outcome.
How quickly you guys forget that our entire election system is a thing of the past.
It's not the votes that count It's who counts the votes.
Republicans could win every election if they would only do two simple things!
1) Separate Church and State
2) Run on term limits across the board
I'll add a third that would seal the deal
3) Get corporations out of the political process!
I'd add a fourth pt Republicans need to quit worrying and advocating against abortion. When you look at the figures and demographics of the women who use abortion for birth control not having more of their kids won't hurt the country more than the dems do. Conservative and religious women do not even consider having an abortion. The ones that do we don't need reproducing anyway. It's a real hotspot with all women and it's costing the conservative right elections. Leave the issue alone until you have total support of overturning roe vs wade by women. Mb
Agree and could add other reason but no need to.
Anyone who thinks a new party is a good idea should just imagine how happy you'd be if the dem split into the socialists and the dems. Got it?
Pretty much already has happened.
Wish they'd finalize the divorce, publicly.
75% of Republican's "leadership" are communist, and 100% of the Democrats both rank and file voters and their leadership too.
We the People need to be We the People and stop trusting the government to do anything be abuse their power.
Quit paying for the destruction of your own kids.
Agreed. All this talk of politics is moot. There will be no peaceful solutions. You aren't voting your way back to the America you wish still existed.
If I was Trump and was sitting on a few billion dollars and wanted to leave a lasting legacy, I'd take out a hit on every worthless POS traitor that voted against America.
If I was Trump and was sitting on a few billion dollars and wanted to leave a lasting legacy, I'd take out a hit on every worthless POS traitor that voted against America.
A few weeks ago you were blaming him for what was happening in Portlandia?
If you were Trump, you wouldn’t have been sitting at home with your thumb up your ass for the last four years waiting for someone else to do the heavy lifting.
75% of Republican's "leadership" are communist, and 100% of the Democrats both rank and file voters and their leadership too.
We the People need to be We the People and stop trusting the government to do anything be abuse their power.
Quit paying for the destruction of your own kids.
Agreed. All this talk of politics is moot. There will be no peaceful solutions. You aren't voting your way back to the America you wish still existed.
That option doesn’t exist any longer. It’s fight or flight now. No civilized solution to this problem.
To prevent trump from running again would require a separate vote from the impeachment conviction vote.
IF the senate votes to convict, preventing another run for office is not automatic.
This should be interesting. KY is sending a message to Mitch that I believe the entire GOP will be watching. I read on Newsmax that the KY GOP is considering censuring good ole Mitch. If they do, that will send a clear message to every republican in the Senate. Even without it, I wrote to Senator Blackburn of TN and she answered that she doubted 17 republicans would vote guilty and that some Dem's may also not vote guilty as well.
I'd add a fourth pt Republicans need to quit worrying and advocating against abortion. When you look at the figures and demographics of the women who use abortion for birth control not having more of their kids won't hurt the country more than the dems do. Conservative and religious women do not even consider having an abortion. The ones that do we don't need reproducing anyway. It's a real hotspot with all women and it's costing the conservative right elections. Leave the issue alone until you have total support of overturning roe vs wade by women. Mb
The best thing that could happen to the country would be to recognize the truth - Abortion and gun control have been settled by the Supreme Court. We should stop endlessly thrashing the same two issues over and over and get on with other pressing matters.
To prevent trump from running again would require a separate vote from the impeachment conviction vote.
IF the senate votes to convict, preventing another run for office is not automatic.
It only takes a majority after a conviction. Basically it is automatic.
So who will the 17 Republicans be that vote to convict?
There are of course the obvious ones.
Romney
Murkowski
Collins
Then the ones that have condemned President Trump publicly
McConnell
Paul
Graham
Cronyn
Sasse
Who else will vote to convict.
Blunt?
Burr
Cotton?
Ernst?
Lee?
Rubio
Toomey?
Thoughts
If I was Trump and was sitting on a few billion dollars and wanted to leave a lasting legacy, I'd take out a hit on every worthless POS traitor that voted against America.
A few weeks ago you were blaming him for what was happening in Portlandia?
If you were Trump, you wouldn’t have been sitting at home with your thumb up your ass for the last four years waiting for someone else to do the heavy lifting.
Sorry jack, but no one is buying your horseschit.
Trump could threaten to campaign to get everyone of them primaried in upcoming elections if they side with the DEMs. Nearly 80 million followers were behind him, and I would venture to say a big majority of them are still on his side regardless of what the politicians or media say about his involvement in the capital riot...We all heard him say to peacefully protest that day...If he started his own social media platform he could possibly gain more followers and have a massive amount of reach and power...The idiots need to pay attention, he could truly hose a lot of them in future elections...I guess that's why they are all so scared of him in the first place..If I was a Republican Senator, I'd much rather have him out there ripping away negatively at everything the DEMs are doing than pissing him off and turning him against me...
Trump could threaten to campaign to get everyone of them primaried in upcoming elections if they side with the DEMs. Nearly 80 million followers were behind him, and I would venture to say a big majority of them are still on his side regardless of what the politicians or media say about his involvement in the capital riot...We all heard him say to peacefully protest that day...If he started his own social media platform he could possibly gain more followers and have a massive amount of reach and power...The idiots need to pay attention, he could truly hose a lot of them in future elections...I guess that's why they are all so scared of him in the first place..
Did you forget that election are rigged, and our votes no longer count.
Trump could threaten to campaign to get everyone of them primaried in upcoming elections if they side with the DEMs. Nearly 80 million followers were behind him, and I would venture to say a big majority of them are still on his side regardless of what the politicians or media say about his involvement in the capital riot...We all heard him say to peacefully protest that day...If he started his own social media platform he could possibly gain more followers and have a massive amount of reach and power...The idiots need to pay attention, he could truly hose a lot of them in future elections...I guess that's why they are all so scared of him in the first place..
Did you forget that election are rigged, and our votes no longer count.
I still have hope that at least some of the State Legislatures and Governors will fix that. I know at least Arizona's state legislators are looking into it already...
There is only one party, in reality, dimocrats , with the republicrats as a subchapter, The politicians only owe allegiance to getting money and power. They will say and do whatever is required to achieve those goals.
They all seem to have a price. The question is who has the ability to pay their asking prices.
All of them are crooked, and no longer valid
Did you forget that election are rigged, and our votes no longer count.
You're a dope.
The OP asked for a prediction.
My prediction is that five Republican senators will vote to convict. That means acquittal.
Acquittal will help the Trump brand.
BTW: The five will be senators whose next election is not until at least 2024.
We don't need a third party. We need to gut the GOP and transplant with conservative patriots and blue collar workers with half a brain.
MAGA
Its never going to happen. The establishment will crush any primary challenger to the status quo and offer the same lesser of two evils option. Republicans will vote to impeach, they don't want Trump the head of a third party ticket.
Did you forget that election are rigged, and our votes no longer count.
You're a dope.
And you've never learned that insults aren't arguments, nor are they evidence of anything but your own possible inferiority.
Did you forget that election are rigged, and our votes no longer count.
You're a dope.
He is not a dope. We saw what happened.
does it even matter any more??
as the public, we need to throw them all out of office and start over...
That is what the Supreme Court should have done with this last election and made them start over...
while stopping mail in voting and having each station under video for each ballot that was counted...
And there are a bunch of democRATS who are still trying to impeach Trump after he's out of office, that ought to have a 25th Amendment
invoked on them, like they plan on doing to Biden eventually....and put them in memory care units...
Pelosi, Chuck U. " Erection" Schumer, Nadler..etc... plenty more need to be locked up in a looney bin, for not living in the real world...
Adam Schitt who needs to be locked up in a looney bin for being a lying A Whole...
If the vote in the Senate is to impeach and the vote is to convict to their claim he commited a crime then a martyr has been born. At least 75 million people will have been disenfranchised and told we voted for a criminal. That will not set well with the Trump supporters. Maybe then we can rebuild the republican party from the ground up. As a martyr Donald Trump's true legacy has been born.
kwg
There won't be a 3rd party spinning off from the GOP. The GOP will fade to nothing and another 2nd party will result as a split between the Democrats.
I think you are spot on with that assessment.
It seems that whenever one or another party heads to the fringes the other takes the center ground. I hope the current party in power stays more towards that center with what they do over the next few years, and doesn’t make a true swing to the hard left. The sky hasn’t fallen yet, although it got close in one way on 1/6.
By the way I think if an individual at the insurrection of the 6th. Made it close enough to the Capitol to touch it they should be facing a federal charge.
Congress will impeach and convict DJT but they are really sending a message to we the people, Trumps just the posterchild They are telling constitutional conservatives,(like Hawley) not to muddy their waters,, They will not only sacrifice them but will come after YOU and ME
The OP asked for a prediction.
My prediction is that five Republican senators will vote to convict. That means acquittal.
Acquittal will help the Trump brand.
BTW: The five will be senators whose next election is not until at least 2024.
Liiisa will vote to convict. If she decides to run for re-election, that race will occur in 2022.
But, 17 Rs will not vote for conviction. The separate vote to remove Trump’s SS protection or prevent running again, will not occur.
Did you forget that election are rigged, and our votes no longer count.
You're a dope.
Yeah, Biden over coming a 650,000 vote deficit with mail in ballots to defeat Trump was legit. I guess the preservation of the Republican party is more important than the preservation of this nation for some on here.
One incentive would be pics of them with kids and gays engaged in sex. Kinda how it goes half the time I would guess. Edk
Romney will vote to convict, again.