I schidt you not. Ruger LCP 22 won't feed anything other than round nose. Called Ruger. They are sending me a new magazine.

That's too bad.

I don't suppose I could interest you in a bridge in NYC or some land in Florida?

Don't you have a libtard to suck off or something?

This is a special talent I have you know?

You DO seem to attract poor firearms specimens, you can't deny that...................................

Indeed it is and the saga continues.
Keep us posted on how this plays out.

Ruger does have mag problems. I have an American 30-06. They sent me 3 new mags before I got one that will load reliably. The cartridges hang up and won't feed to the top.

Why don't you just out me on Ignore, and resume jerking off to Donald Trump videos.

damn Paul . At least Ruger made it good and no injuries. Cant remember but does Ruger test fire any of their firearms and/or provide a target before sent to wholesalers?

I am simply dumbfounded as to how magazines can be an engineering issue in this day and age. They have only been around for more than a century. None of it is cutting edge design.

I expect Rugers to have problems. When it comes to problem resolution, their CS has been stellar. As far as I know they don't test them. I am not sure they do much more than throw them n a box after the last step in manufacturing.

If you decide to throw the gun away I will take it.

The hollow points were probably shorts......

What’s the problem? I been killin’ hogs for years with RN .22s.....CB Shorts and LR. Hollow points are silly.

Massad Ayoob did a report on the LCP 22 in one of the gun publications a couple months back. He wasn't impressed with the pistol at all, as he said it jammed on all but one particular CCI round.

The other gals at the bike club keep hollow points in their fanny pack guns.

Go with the flow man....

Have you considered muzzleloading as a viable alternative to more complex systems? Powder..projectile..sparky rock.

My wife has one, it only likes regular cci, jams on everything else. I just use cci’s in it like everyone else that owns one instead of crying on the internet about it.

Dang Paul.

Do you have issues with S&W weapons also?

Paul's got battered woman syndrome.

Sounds like some kind of Seacamp issue. Very popular back up gun at one time I heard. I never considered one as I believe the company only warranted them with Winchester Silvertips or some such. And what does one do if one ends up in an area with none on the shelves, just Remington or Sellior and Bellot?

Deep fried?

Paul, we just got a pair of those.....and so-far- so-good! I ran a bunch of rounds though mine, some at rapid fire....and did have one mis-feed during rapid-fire! The wife has not shot hers a lot.

I was running a mix of Federal and Remington plated hollow points!

Now you have me concerned about the 4 additional magazines we bought! Now, I have to do a feed-test on these new magazines! How bad is that.....I have to go out and do some shooting! memtb

You aught to quit buying the defected guns.

LCP 380 has been flawless

Have you tried archery?

Or bowling?

Maybe accounting or finger painting.

It's ridiculous. I took one of them apart and wound the spring a turn tighter. That didn't fix it. They've made millions of 10-22's with the same technology and I've never heard of them having this problem.

I think finger painting might make him upset with getting paint on his fingers.

Ain't you got a dick you need to be suckin'?

Com' on man is that all you got?

Surely a man such as yourself who's smart enough to know Biden would make a great President and do great things for this country and it's people would have a much better comeback than that lame ass sentence.

Sort of peripheral, but along the same lines...this past weekend our club hosted Glock Challenge. It was my first exposure to the Glock 44 (.22 rf). Glock advises that CCI Mini Mags be used to ensure reliability. One of the other RO’s was showing us how, at Glock armorer school, they were told that, with the 44, to ensure feeding reliability, after fully loading the magazine, you should turn it upside down and, via the follower button on the side, relieve the spring pressure to allow the top round to settle into the feed lips correctly.

Jim, why is it always about my shorts with you? On that note, I'll give all of you yet another reason to laugh at me. This is my "bicycle" gun.

I have never bought one. I like them just fine, but for some reason never have laid down the cash for one.

Let me know how it goes.

Why a .22 for a bicycle gun, will a 9mm over penetrate?

Bowling seems like something I could do. I have never heard of anyone dropping a bowling ball on their head.

I can definitely empathize. I'd challenge you to a friendly contest to see who got the most bad Ruger handguns in the past year - four in a row for me, the two new ones they sent me to replace two I sent back were as bad if not worse than the ones I sent back.

However, it's not a contest I care to win so have withdrawn from that particular field entirely.

Shorts first and now penetration. You guys are hard on me.

After a host of issues, I swore Ruger off. Then I decided I wanted a 17 HMR not too long ago. There wasn't much available so I went with an American Go Wild, figuring I'd have to send it back. It has been an absolute joy. Like a dumbass, I got suckered back in.

I bet it's the magazine. My .380 LCP runs flawlessly with the 2 factory magazines I have. But it wouldn't get through 1 magazine without jamming with the aftermarket Pro Mag I bought.

I threw the Pro Mag in the trash and bought the second factory magazine.

They're obviously magazine sensitive. Maybe you just got a bad one.

Well, you be sure and pick one up someday. Next time you have extra cash flow................maybe sell a couple of Rugers?

And when you do, please let us know if THOSE give you issues too.

So far, mine haven't.........................so far.

Good luck with this problem, you'll need it apparently.

It acted like a mag problem. The bullet was hitting a little high on the chamber. The round nose allowed it to feed in smoothly. The HP got caught up.

Have you heard of revolvers?

"Paul, it's not me, it's you. It's definitely you."

A wild guess that you've heard this before, Mr. Barnard.

Buy a real gun.

Seacamp was a quality weapon. They were specially built for the Silvertip, which was the best 32 ACP round at the time. Later, it was eclipsed, but when Seacamp started making his 32's, they were the best you could get in that caliber. In fact, the Silvertip really popularized the 32 ACP, bringing it up to nearly 380 level stopping power wise.

The magazine was probably a Monday morning production. Just a little QA QC problem.

I think about 10% of my past lower end rifles or handguns have gone to a gunsmith to get fixed.

Tradition....it goes back to the .22 Velo Dog.

I bought a Ruger SP101. The sights couldn't be adjusted to bring the rounds on target. I am not a great revolver shooter, but even with a rest, I couldn't get it high enough. Looks like they polished the stainless with 40 grit.

I've killed Many bicycles with a 22 LR, all were DRT one shot kills.

Why go over-gunned? Knucklehead magnumbitists...

It's an unfortunate truth. My wife didn't believe me when I told her I was bad luck. "No such thing" she said. Unsurprisingly, I don't gamble. We went on a cruise not too long after we started seeing each other. She wanted to go gambling. I told her I would stay off the gaming floor. She brushed it off. About an hour later I strolled in to check on her. She was up a couple hundred bucks. I watched her for a few minutes until she dropped down to about 50 bucks up. I excused myself. I came back 45 minutes later. She was way up again and immediately started dropping. She kicked me out of the casino and immediately hit a couple hundred dollar jackpot.

My 380 LCP digests everything I jam into it using Pro Mags. I have two, and all is good.

You just like to be different, Bristoe.

I prefer a broom handle through the spokes to slow 'em down first.....

Had a .380 LCP that functioned flawlessly. Sold it. Prefer the uncertainty of flintlocks, and any excuse to use a bayonet is the schizzle.

Quit buying schit cheap ass guns.

What dollar threshold do you recommend?

You're the first person I've ever heard say anything positive about Promags. Our shop wouldn't even carry them.

This wins the forum for funniest post of the day.

I read here of Kimber Roulette, but I'm not familiar with it.

But I am very familiar with Ruger Roulette. Good luck with the replacement mag.

From what I heard I have no issue with your statement of them being a "quality weapon". And I have no issue with the Silvertips either.

I just happen to be one of that group that prefers something that will digest whatever can be found when needed.

It's one reason I don't use my Nylon 66 often. It has a tendency to prefer plated ammo, doesn't always feed the bare bones lead tips well.

You just described my wife's effect when I used to gamble. Before we met, I could plan on winning. Hell, there was a while when I hit some rough times that I was making my bills at the casino. I would still go and pick up $400 (when I got up that much, I cashed out and tucked the bills into my wallet) from time to time when she and I met. Her parents were living in Vegas at the time, and every time we would gamble, I lost my ass. Finally had enough of that, and stopped giving away my money.

I prefer being with her to picking up folding money, anyway. She has been like winning the lottery.

Why didn't you vote for Biden?

Its not just you.....maybe 4 of the last 5 Rugers I have bought have had to go back to the factory......Last year bought a Redhawk in 45 LC and the trigger felt like it was filled with gravel. Took 10 months to get it back marginally improved.

Buy yourself a pre=lock S & W and see what a revolver is supposed to feel like. You are welcome

#givenuponRuger

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Dang, I thought I was the only one on the 'fire that was a "turd magnet"

I bought a McMillan stock the recoil pad keeps coming unglued

Had to change an ejector on a Glock gen3
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had to put about 75$ worth of parts in a Browning ATD to get it reliable

Had 3 new Colt 1911s that have needed work done on them.

Had 2 leupolds crap out

An 870 express shotgun that would leave shells in the magazine (death trap if not careful)

Several so called reliable 10/22 magazines that quit working

.Bushmaster AR with a tight magwell

. Brand new late '80s Remington Mountain Rifle you could move around in the stock when the stock screws were cinched up tight.

Seems like at least half the stuff I buy I have to exchange or tweak on to get it to work.

Has anyone ever personally seen any small frame 22 LR auto that was remotely close to being perfectly reliable?

Ruger’s quality is beyond sketchy. If it wasn’t for their cheap RAR line card that thrills so many with accuracy for under $350 bucks. Ruger’s new builds would be considered high priced garbage.

Snarc

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Maybe Ruger should give Megar a call

Paul, It’s too early in the day to make that call....We still have Happy Hour, then drinks at home to come.

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Maybe Toyota ought to go into the gun business?

All of them I've bought, new and used, have pretty much worked as is. Change out the wearable parts as necessary, oil, brakes, a clutch every 150-200K miles. Be nice to get a firearm like that?

Paul, you really need to stop looking at the " classy conversation and hot women forum" when your in the gun shop on your phone and zone out all the butts walking by instead concentrate on the guns.

A .22 auto in this configuration is going to be a gamble regardless.

The .380’s are rock solid though.

Why would anyone want a rusted out magazine?

Paul make a list of any firearms your thinking of buying. So everyone else can avoid them!

Yeah- I have a Walther P-22 that I bought quite some time ago...I think it was around when they first hit the market. I only got it as a plinker and fed it a steady diet of bulk pack .22 lr, mostly Federal, but a lot of Winchester as well. Sometimes when the grandkids were out at the farm we’d run through several hundred rounds as fast as I could load mags...that pistol would get hot. I kept expecting it quit, but I never got any failures except the occasional dud you expect in bulk.22 ammo. After a while it became a game with me, I figured I’d run it until I got feed, battery or ejection failure, then clean it and start over. The kids got older, life changed, it sat idle for a number of years. I took it to the range recently...it still chugs along although I think the slide returns to battery a little slower. Maybe I’ll clean it up. I recently went through all my pistols and revolvers and made sure all were clean and lubed except that one. I don’t want to jinx it though.

Just to add, I’ve got a Beretta 21 that is reliable as long as it’s kept clean and lubed and fed good ammo.

Valsdad, I found the same with my Nylon 66......so around 1975 or so, I quit buying Winchester Wildcats, and Remington Thunderbolts. I’ve stayed with plated since then! memtb

That's not a small frame .22 auto.

The pistol I had years ago used Italian-made magazines. They were very good quality and functioned flawlessly. I heard Ruger QC is bad now. Someone on Handguns sub-froum said they bought three or four handguns and they all had to be shipped back for service.

Ruger QC was seriously lacking prior to COVID. I have a hunch COVID will usher in a wave of abhorrent QC.

Lack of quality control (whether Ruger's or anyone else's) has nothing to do with a virus and everything to do with someone not giving a schidt.

might i suggest archery

Ain't that the truth. Look how many guns are released where the first buyers are the testers. In the old days, the occasional bad apple got out the door but now the manufacturers have people conditioned that it's normal and as long as they make it good the second or third time, everything is good.

Yep, small 22 autos can be very problematic, but the bigger ones can be chit as well with chit ammo. I quit using Wildcats, Thunderbolts & Lightings decades ago.. Gonna have to be in dire straights to use it again.

A little Iver Johnson TP 22 impressed the heck out of me with reliable function & was good with more than 2 or 3 brands. So handy that when I found another I bought it for a backup. Both have taken their share of pot meat.
Funny the high dollar Walther TPH they copied is finicky, or mine was. Noticed I said was.

Same with boats and RVs. Pisses me straight off. The gear of my other two passtimes, fishing tackle and bicycles, don't suffer the same problem.

If you're buying one from me, there's no upper limit.

Agree. In the last eight years, I can think of eight guns that had to go back for work. One went back twice and was replaced. Three were recalls and five were for other issues. I also have one more that needs to go back, and one more I should consider sending back. In the twenty+ years before that, I can only think of four that needed to be sent back, and one of those probably was the result of an ammo problem.

I think it is. The only thing I've got smaller is my Beretta 21 and I consider that tiny frame.

I have one and probably the cheapest one ever made. Years ago I bought a Jennings that the guy said was broken. From my selling a ton of these and the Raven 25ACP counterparts of the same design I knew the problem. Guy had taken it apart, then he put it back together with the firing pin in backwards. After giving him $20.00 for the gun I took it apart, re-assembled it the right way and popped off a couple of rounds.

Seeing it now worked, guy wanted it back. Being a decent other-guy, I gave it back. He shot it again, and the second round fed straight up, catherdraled. He then said it was defective, and I bought it for $10.00. I took the magazine out and pinched the ears a little, then popped off six straight and kept the gun.

I've shot over a brick's count of every kind of 22 LR ammo, good to crap shells, through it without one failure. The design is so simple that tuned up (magazine lips) and kept cleaned they work perfectly.

Years ago I bought a little pistol made by Iver Johnson that was pretty much a clone of a PPK in .22 caliber.

It was extremely reliable and more accurate than you would expect.

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