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Biden Administration Urges Supreme Court To Let Cops Enter Homes And Seize Guns Without A Warrant

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And if that happens,there will be cops getting killed.
Normally, I'd say the court would never agree.. But after the cowards (and allegedly conservative) refused to take on the last totally crooked election, I have ZERO faith that they'll actually uphold any part of the Constitution...

Originally Posted by Riverc
And if that happens,there will be cops getting killed.
Indeed...
This is how to start the new Civil War.
Originally Posted by WYcoyote
This is how to start the new Civil War.

Yes, it is.
They will grant the PO-LEECE unlimited "community caretaking" rights & privilege's, w/o a shadow of a doubt, for the children, of course, & if it saves just one life.

I do not trust this court run by Roberts at all; he has managed to intimidate all 3 of the newest members & they are cowed.

Red, flag laws are already unconstitutional, this is just the next step.

MM
Originally Posted by MontanaMan
They will grant the PO-LEECE unlimited "community caretaking" rights & privilege's, w/o a shadow of a doubt, for the children, of course, & if it saves just one life.

I do not trust this court run by Roberts at all; he has managed to intimidate all 3 of the newest members & they are cowed.

Red, flag laws are already unconstitutional, this is just the next step.

MM


I agree. All three branches of government are compromised and united in trying to make the Constitution irrelevant. The military is not far behind if not already complicit. The next two years are a buildup to the 2022 - 2024 term in which the globalists will control the House, the Senate and the Executive branch. Camel toe will occupy the White House. Our future depends on two SC justices - Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito. The odds are not in our favor!
Trump should have asked Thomas and Alito to pick his Supreme Court nominees.
Entering someone's home without permission or a warrant sounds like a bad idea. It puts both homeowner and intruder in a dangerous situation. Hopefully that never happens in this country.
Sounds like a solid way to get Agents shot up.

I wouldn’t volunteer for that task force.



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Originally Posted by Beaver10
Sounds like a solid way to get Agents shot up.


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Wrong.

They will be ready & overwhelming, you won't be either ready or overwhelming at 4 AM on an unknown morning.

MM
Originally Posted by MontanaMan
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Sounds like a solid way to get Agents shot up.


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Wrong.

They will be ready & overwhelming, you won't be either ready or overwhelming at 4 AM on an unknown morning.

MM


Funny post, you seem to think there will only be the one kind of situation.
Not good!!
Originally Posted by Riverc
And if that happens,there will be cops getting killed.



You can bet that for sure, why doesn't biden and the democrats enter our home without a warrent
Originally Posted by rickt300
Funny post, you seem to think there will only be the one kind of situation.


I think that post represents the way the majority of these situations will go down.

People enjoy online pretending, but the reality of shooting at police is pretty grim regardless of who is right and who is wrong. Effectively 0 people here will actually do it.
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Sounds like a solid way to get Agents shot up.

I wouldn’t volunteer for that task force.



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I See Dead People.. Dead Cawps.

I'm just as ready at 4 a.m. as I am at 6 p.m.

Garden variety home intruders.
Originally Posted by gemby58
Originally Posted by Riverc
And if that happens,there will be cops getting killed.



You can bet that for sure, why doesn't biden and the democrats enter our home without a warrent





Exactly. Because they don't want to get shot!
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Sounds like a solid way to get Agents shot up.

I wouldn’t volunteer for that task force.



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And I doubt to many police would either
Originally Posted by local_dirt
I'm just as ready at 4 a.m. as I am at 6 p.m.


What NV are you using? Which mount for which gas mask?
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Sounds like a solid way to get Agents shot up.

I wouldn’t volunteer for that task force.



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I See Dead People.. Dead Cawps.

I'm just as ready at 4 a.m. as I am at 6 p.m.

Garden variety home intruders.



+1
Going to be lots injuries.
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Going to be lots injuries.


ALOT
Originally Posted by gemby58

+1


Awesome.

Same questions for you, just trying to level set for my gear.

Which NV? Which mask? How about plates and carrier?
Originally Posted by Stickfight
Originally Posted by local_dirt
I'm just as ready at 4 a.m. as I am at 6 p.m.


What NV are you using? Which mount for which gas mask?




None of your business.
BLM and liberal Democrats holler No Knock warrents are a bad thing and need to be stopped.But they are for this ,.what is the differance?It is much worse. but they sure can not see it
Originally Posted by rem shooter
BLM and liberal Democrats holler No Knock warrents are a bad thing and need to be stopped.But they are for this ,.what is the differance?It is much worse. but they sure can not see it





Betcha only if you're white.

I'm up at 4. Be happy to give them a nice welcome.
Originally Posted by local_dirt
None of your business.


Can’t say I’m surprised.....
Seizing personal property in violation of our longstanding laws, Is a line that many people have drawn in the dirt. Many people will stand and fight to keep their guns and their money and property.
The American people are not all sheep.
We had to have our burglar bars removed from our windows or the insurance company threatened to drop our insurance. I think insurance companies have been told to threaten customers to drop their home insurance if they don't remove their burglar bars for a reason other than people getting trapped inside their home. It's hard to shoot tear gas through windows if they are blocked with bars.
LIBERALS /Biden people bomb Syria not even a month ago and a Syrian immigrant buys a rifle shoots up a grocery store and kills people and nobody has a conversation about this ? sure blame the white legal gun owners ! WTF
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by Stickfight
Originally Posted by local_dirt
I'm just as ready at 4 a.m. as I am at 6 p.m.


What NV are you using? Which mount for which gas mask?




None of your business.
The perfect answer... smile
Originally Posted by Lucas1
We had to have our burglar bars removed from our windows or the insurance company threatened to drop our insurances.
Seems like a good time to find a different company...
I should take the time to go back 5-6ish years and find some of the threads where SO MANY members laughed & cracked off cool comments about all the dumb tinfoil hat wearing people on this forum are .

I hope the SC agrees that warrantless anything is just fine & dandy - even give the door knockers a big cash reward for per evil weapon takin off the street .

But hey chipsNdips barca lounger honey hand me a pepsi love this big screen tv uww - did they get 1st down cheer cheer
Originally Posted by Redneck
The perfect answer... smile


Perfect for online role playing for sure.

For LARPing when the cops come through the door? Less so. But we all know it’ll never come to that which is why there is no reason to know what good NV is, or which mask works.
That pesky thing called the 4th Amendment to the Constitution stands in Walter's way.
Duh China Joe wants America to be just like China. There the Citizens have zero firearms and are at the complete mercy of the tyrannical government. Its coming boys. Keep your powder dry.
Originally Posted by Stickfight
Originally Posted by rickt300
Funny post, you seem to think there will only be the one kind of situation.


I think that post represents the way the majority of these situations will go down.

People enjoy online pretending, but the reality of shooting at police is pretty grim regardless of who is right and who is wrong. Effectively 0 people here will actually do it.


So in your short sighted look at the issue you think immediately of shooting the police? Broaden your horizons a bit.
Originally Posted by pete53
LIBERALS /Biden people bomb Syria not even a month ago and a Syrian immigrant buys a rifle shoots up a grocery store and kills people and nobody has a conversation about this ? sure blame the white legal gun owners ! WTF


Excellent point, odd just how silent the leftard suqqing media are on this.
Originally Posted by rickt300
Originally Posted by pete53
LIBERALS /Biden people bomb Syria not even a month ago and a Syrian immigrant buys a rifle shoots up a grocery store and kills people and nobody has a conversation about this ? sure blame the white legal gun owners ! WTF


Excellent point, odd just how silent the leftard suqqing media are on this.


Not at all ''odd'' they work everything towards their agenda - 75% of the population will never have a thought along the lines of what Pete53 wrote .
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by WYcoyote
This is how to start the new Civil War.

Yes, it is.


Multiple violations of the Constitution on many levels with just that one item.

Yep.
In the article cited, the ACLU is prominent in the organizations fighting this before the Supremes.

How many here gonna send them a check?
Originally Posted by ol_mike
Originally Posted by rickt300
Originally Posted by pete53
LIBERALS /Biden people bomb Syria not even a month ago and a Syrian immigrant buys a rifle shoots up a grocery store and kills people and nobody has a conversation about this ? sure blame the white legal gun owners ! WTF


Excellent point, odd just how silent the leftard suqqing media are on this.


Not at all ''odd'' they work everything towards their agenda - 75% of the population will never have a thought along the lines of what Pete53 wrote .


Well pretty sure the phrase Islamic extremism/terrorism are on the leftstream media's can't say list.
Originally Posted by johnw
In the article cited, the ACLU is prominent in the organizations fighting this before the Supremes.

How many here gonna send them a check?


The ACLU! Send them a check! Too funny is pot legal where you are? If the ACLU is all we have then just ready yourself for the gunfight.
Originally Posted by steve4102
Biden Administration Urges Supreme Court To Let Cops Enter Homes And Seize Guns Without A Warrant

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicksi...-homes-and-seize-guns-without-a-warrant/
..........The Biden administration...Violating the Constitution up one side and down the other.....Law enforcement will not like this mandate.
Originally Posted by rickt300
Originally Posted by MontanaMan
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Sounds like a solid way to get Agents shot up.


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Wrong.

They will be ready & overwhelming, you won't be either ready or overwhelming at 4 AM on an unknown morning.

MM


Funny post, you seem to think there will only be the one kind of situation.



Yeah, I forgot......................you're a one man Ranger wrecking crew, bad mofo that you are.

MM
Originally Posted by Riverc
And if that happens,there will be cops getting killed.

I'm more concerned about the homeowners that will be getting killed.
Originally Posted by steve4102
Biden Administration Urges Supreme Court To Let Cops Enter Homes And Seize Guns Without A Warrant

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicksi...-homes-and-seize-guns-without-a-warrant/

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C&P please
Originally Posted by rickt300
So in your short sighted look at the issue you think immediately of shooting the police?


Where could I have gotten an idea like that?

Originally Posted by Riverc
And if that happens,there will be cops getting killed.


Originally Posted by WYcoyote
new Civil War.


Originally Posted by Beaver10
Sounds like a solid way to get Agents shot up.


Originally Posted by local_dirt
I See Dead People.. Dead Cawps.


Originally Posted by gemby58
Going to be lots injuries.


Originally Posted by mtnsnake
ALOT


Is everyone else talking about minecraft?
Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by steve4102
Biden Administration Urges Supreme Court To Let Cops Enter Homes And Seize Guns Without A Warrant

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicksi...-homes-and-seize-guns-without-a-warrant/

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C&P please


Here ya go.

MM


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Biden Administration Urges Supreme Court To Let Cops Enter Homes And Seize Guns Without A Warrant

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The U.S. Supreme Court on Wednesday will hear oral argument in Caniglia v. Strom, a case that could have sweeping consequences for policing, due process, and mental health, with the Biden Administration and attorneys general from nine states urging the High Court to uphold warrantless gun confiscation. But what would ultimately become a major Fourth Amendment case began with an elderly couple’s spat over a coffee mug.

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In August 2015, 68-year-old Edward Caniglia joked to Kim, his wife of 22 years, that he didn’t use a certain coffee mug after his brother-in-law had used it because he “might catch a case of dishonesty.” That quip quickly spiraled into an hour-long argument. Growing exhausted from the bickering, Edward stormed into his bedroom, grabbed an unloaded handgun, and put it on the kitchen table in front of his wife. With a flair for the dramatic, he then asked: “Why don’t you just shoot me and get me out of my misery?”

Perhaps unsurprisingly, the tactic backfired and the two continued to argue. Eventually, Edward took a drive to cool off. But when he returned, their argument flared up once again. This time, Kim decided to leave the house and spend the night at a motel. The next day, Kim phoned home. No answer.

Worried, she called the police in Cranston, Rhode Island and asked them to perform a “well check” on her husband and to escort her home. When they arrived, officers spoke with Edward on the back deck. According to an incident report, he “seemed normal,” “was calm for the most part,” and even said “he would never commit suicide.”

However, none of the officers had asked Edward any questions about the factors relating to his risk of suicide, risk of violence, or prior misuse of firearms. (Edward had no criminal record and no history of violence or self-harm.) In fact, one of the officers later admitted he “did not consult any specific psychological or psychiatric criteria” or medical professionals for his decisions that day.

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Still, police were convinced that Edward could hurt himself and insisted he head to a local hospital for a psychiatric evaluation. After refusing and insisting that his mental health wasn’t their business, Edward agreed only after police (falsely) promised they wouldn’t seize his guns while he was gone.

Compounding the dishonesty, police then told Kim that Edward had consented to the confiscation. Believing the seizures were approved by her husband, Kim led the officers to the two handguns the couple owned, which were promptly seized. Even though Edward was immediately discharged from the hospital, police only returned the firearms after he filed a civil rights lawsuit against them.

Critically, when police seized the guns, they didn’t claim it was an emergency or to prevent imminent danger. Instead, the officers argued their actions were a form of “community caretaking,” a narrow exception to the Fourth Amendment’s warrant requirement.

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First created by the Supreme Court nearly 50 years ago, the community caretaking exception was designed for cases involving impounded cars and highway safety, on the grounds that police are often called to car accidents to remove nuisances like inoperable vehicles on public roads.

Both a district and appellate court upheld the seizures as “reasonable” under the community caretaking exception. In deciding Caniglia’s case, the First Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals acknowledged that “the doctrine’s reach outside the motor vehicle context is ill-defined.” Nevertheless, the court decided to extend that doctrine to cover private homes, ruling that the officers “did not exceed the proper province of their community caretaking responsibilities.”

Siding with law enforcement, the First Circuit noted that a police officer “must act as a master of all emergencies, who is ‘expected to...provide an infinite variety of services to preserve and protect community safety.’” By letting police operate without a warrant, the community caretaking exception is “designed to give police elbow room to take appropriate action,” the court added.

In their opening brief for the Supreme Court, attorneys for Caniglia warned that “extending the community caretaking exception to homes would be anathema to the Fourth Amendment” because it “would grant police a blank check to intrude upon the home.”

That fear is not unwarranted. In jurisdictions that have extended the community caretaking exception to homes, “everything from loud music to leaky pipes have been used to justify warrantless invasion of the home,” a joint amicus brief by the ACLU, the Cato Institute, and the American Conservative Union revealed.

This expansion could also have perverse effects and disincentivize people from calling for help. As that brief noted, “When every interaction with police or request for help can become an invitation for police to invade the home, the willingness of individuals to seek assistance when it is most needed will suffer.”

But in its first amicus brief before the High Court, the Biden Administration glossed over these concerns and called on the justices to uphold the First Circuit’s ruling. Noting that “the ultimate touchstone of the Fourth Amendment is ‘reasonableness,’” the Justice Department argued that warrants should not be “presumptively required when a government official’s action is objectively grounded in a non-investigatory public interest, such as health or safety.”

“The ultimate question in this case is therefore not whether the respondent officers’ actions fit within some narrow warrant exception,” their brief stated, “but instead whether those actions were reasonable,” actions the Justice Department felt were “justified” in Caniglia’s case.


As a fail-safe, the Justice Department also urged the Supreme Court to uphold the lower court ruling on qualified immunity grounds, arguing that the officers’ “actions did not violate any clearly established law so as to render the officers individually liable in a damages action.”

But the Biden Administration, along with the courts that have extended the community caretaking exception, overlook a key component of the Fourth Amendment: the Security Clause. After all, the Fourth Amendment opens with the phrase, “the right of the people to be secure.”

In an amicus brief, the Institute for Justice noted that “to the Founding generation, ‘secure’ did not simply mean the right to be ‘spared’ an unreasonable search or seizure” but also involved “harms attributable to the potential for unreasonable searches and seizures.” Expanding the community caretaking exception to “allow warrantless entries into peoples’ homes on a whim,” argued the IJ brief, “invokes the arbitrary, looming threat of general writs that so incited the Framers” and would undermine “the right of the people to be secure” in their homes.

The IJ brief further argued that extending the “community caretaking” exception to the home would “flatly contradict” the Supreme Court's prior rulings, which “has only discussed community caretaking in the context of vehicle searches and seizures.” In those cases, “the animating purpose for the exception [was] to allow officers to remove damaged or abandoned vehicles that pose a risk to public safety.” By contrast, the IJ amicus asserted, “that justification is entirely absent” when it comes to homes.

“The Fourth Amendment protects our right to be secure in our property, which means the right to be free from fear that the police will enter your house without warning or authorization,” said Institute for Justice Attorney Joshua Windham. “A rule that allows police to burst into your home without a warrant whenever they feel they are acting as ‘community caretakers’ is a threat to everyone’s security.”
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“A rule that allows police to burst into your home without a warrant whenever they feel they are acting as ‘community caretakers’ is a threat to everyone’s security.”

The Dems wet dream......
I know its easier said then done but..........From my Cold dead hands.
Originally Posted by steve4102
Biden Administration Urges Supreme Court To Let Cops Enter Homes And Seize Guns Without A Warrant

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicksi...-homes-and-seize-guns-without-a-warrant/

In order words, They want to knock on the doors of the straight white males, Christians and law abiding citizen.
Not blacks and all the street thugs.
Biden is about to spark a racial war. I thought they said Trump was the one dividing the country ?
I thought that the left was gunning (no pun intended) for qualified immunity claims by the police, yet here they are asserting exactly that in a case where it helps their totalitarian agenda.

Color me shocked 😮
Originally Posted by BobBrown
Duh China Joe wants America to be just like China. There the Citizens have zero firearms and are at the complete mercy of the tyrannical government. Its coming boys. Keep your powder dry.


And i do believe that,look the way they treat people,keeping them locked in the house,forcing all this mask wearing,social distancing crap and no telling what else.
Originally Posted by dassa
Originally Posted by Riverc
And if that happens,there will be cops getting killed.

I'm more concerned about the homeowners that will be getting killed.


It will be both getting killed should have said it that way.
Originally Posted by Redneck
Originally Posted by Lucas1
We had to have our burglar bars removed from our windows or the insurance company threatened to drop our insurances.
Seems like a good time to find a different company...





I've gone through that many times on my properties in Miami. Have a welder put hinges on them so they can swing out for egress, and also weld a plate for a dowel to run all the way through the wall with a pull-pin on the inside (like a grenade). Now you're perfectly legal, and secure.
Originally Posted by bluefish
That pesky thing called the 4th Amendment to the Constitution stands in Walter's way.


I'm pretty sure he is no more concerned about violating the 4th than he is about violating the 2nd.
There can be no unrealistic misconception about the outcome of a no-knock or other LE intrusion (whether with or without a warrant) when they show up at your door. They have unlimited resources and sanctioned authority to use lethal force. So the homeowner will lose the fight, probably with a fatal outcome.

As these incidents are repeated, probably singly, there would very probably be mounting citizen and LE casualties and fatalities. The question will be the cost the government is willing to bear before recalibration, the resolve of Citizens to assert their rights, or when a general conflagration is sparked.

I am a strong supporter of local and county LE, but Liberty is our most hard-won and priceless value. It was bought and preserved at very high cost to be thrown away by our generation.

This proposal is eerily reminiscent of the events leading to Concord. History does seem to repeat itself.
Originally Posted by Wildcatter264
There can be no unrealistic misconception about the outcome of a no-knock or other LE intrusion (whether with or without a warrant) when they show up at your door. They have unlimited resources and sanctioned authority to use lethal force. So the homeowner will lose the fight, probably with a fatal outcome.

As these incidents are repeated, probably singly, there would very probably be mounting citizen and LE casualties and fatalities. The question will be the cost the government is willing to bear before recalibration, the resolve of Citizens to assert their rights, or when a general conflagration is sparked.

I am a strong supporter of local and county LE, but Liberty is our most hard-won and priceless value. It was bought and preserved at very high cost to be thrown away by our generation.

This proposal is eerily reminiscent of the events leading to Concord. History does seem to repeat itself.

Well said.
Unintended Consequences....
Originally Posted by Wildcatter264
There can be no unrealistic misconception about the outcome of a no-knock or other LE intrusion (whether with or without a warrant) when they show up at your door. They have unlimited resources and sanctioned authority to use lethal force. So the homeowner will lose the fight, probably with a fatal outcome.

As these incidents are repeated, probably singly, there would very probably be mounting citizen and LE casualties and fatalities. The question will be the cost the government is willing to bear before recalibration, the resolve of Citizens to assert their rights, or when a general conflagration is sparked.

I am a strong supporter of local and county LE, but Liberty is our most hard-won and priceless value. It was bought and preserved at very high cost to be thrown away by our generation.

This proposal is eerily reminiscent of the events leading to Concord. History does seem to repeat itself.


Remind those about Concord please
Henry Magee Burleson County TX.

https://theeagle.com/news/local/acc...ad8779e-2f99-5ecf-bcb9-9f337c936b28.html
They just keep poking the hive.
The police like their thin blue line.

Shooters have an even thinner black line, the judges.
i urge Supreme Court get of your arse`s and take on the 2020 election fraud ! butt heads
Originally Posted by pete53
i urge Supreme Court get of your arse`s and take on the 2020 election fraud ! butt heads

They are part of the deep state, They will never do such thing. If they could, They would have already.
Originally Posted by IA_fog
Originally Posted by Wildcatter264
There can be no unrealistic misconception about the outcome of a no-knock or other LE intrusion (whether with or without a warrant) when they show up at your door. They have unlimited resources and sanctioned authority to use lethal force. So the homeowner will lose the fight, probably with a fatal outcome.

As these incidents are repeated, probably singly, there would very probably be mounting citizen and LE casualties and fatalities. The question will be the cost the government is willing to bear before recalibration, the resolve of Citizens to assert their rights, or when a general conflagration is sparked.

I am a strong supporter of local and county LE, but Liberty is our most hard-won and priceless value. It was bought and preserved at very high cost to be thrown away by our generation.

This proposal is eerily reminiscent of the events leading to Concord. History does seem to repeat itself.


Remind those about Concord please


The Battle of Concord was the “Shot Heard Around the World.” Concord and Lexington were the first 2 engagements of the Revolutionary War, as the Colonial Patriots fought the British Army to prevent the Redcoats from seizing the Americans’ weapons, lead and powder.

This happened on April 19, 1775, the day after Paul Revere’s ride.

Unfortunately I see the effect of public education revisionist history and Marxist indoctrination, as our younger generations have never learned the exceptional history of our Constitutional Republic.
The day before this happened would be my last day at work. That said, this would be the event which begins a civil war. No doubt which side I’d be on.
Originally Posted by MontanaMan
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Sounds like a solid way to get Agents shot up.


🦫


Wrong.

They will be ready & overwhelming, you won't be either ready or overwhelming at 4 AM on an unknown morning.

MM


You should surrender everything now.

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I'm sure that between you & rickt300 that the 2 of you could hold off a mechanized battalion with a couple of handguns.

MM
Originally Posted by MontanaMan
I'm sure that between you & rickt300 that the 2 of you could hold off a mechanized battalion with a couple of handguns.

MM


I’m sorry. I didn’t realize you lived in such fear.

You should sell all your firearms before you feel compelled by a letter from your Governor to turn them in for a stuffed animal.

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That the best you got?

MM
I don't see this happening for years to come because I don't think they're ready for the ramifications right now. The middle class (and even lower class) still have too many resources and that could be very costly to the government. Plus, there's still a lot of police, military, etc. that would side with the good guys and the Constitution. Now let the Dems continue to bankrupt the country by devaluing our currency, drive away industry/jobs through taxes/regulation, flood the population with illegal aliens, and brainwash the masses via their non-stop media propaganda and they might just get stupid to see what they can do.
Originally Posted by MontanaMan
That the best you got?

MM


Nah, I got more....I haven’t crossed swords with you in the past. Kinda holding back, since I’ve never known you to be a jackass towards me until recently.

You have your opinion on such matters, I have mine.

You can make this into something, if you want. Or, you can handle your life however you decide and carry-on.

I’m outta fücks, either way.

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Originally Posted by efw
I thought that the left was gunning (no pun intended) for qualified immunity claims by the police, yet here they are asserting exactly that in a case where it helps their totalitarian agenda regime.

Color me shocked 😮




Fixed it for ya.
Originally Posted by Nebraska
I don't see this happening for years to come because I don't think they're ready for the ramifications right now. The middle class (and even lower class) still have too many resources and that could be very costly to the government. Plus, there's still a lot of police, military, etc. that would side with the good guys and the Constitution. Now let the Dems continue to bankrupt the country by devaluing our currency, drive away industry/jobs through taxes/regulation, flood the population with illegal aliens, and brainwash the masses via their non-stop media propaganda and they might just get stupid to see what they can do.

I think you are being either extremely optimistic or are just naive.

They have been working towards this since the early 60’s quite possibly much earlier.
They will not wait forever.

The time is right, they have the country locked down, they have the country living in fear, they have the elections rigged, they have control of both houses of Congress, the Supreme Court AND the Military. They have all their Ducks in a Row and the time is NOW to pounce.

As for LE , don’t be ridiculous , cops like the Military will follow orders. They will Stand Down and allow citizens to be injured and killed, they will arrest people for defending themselves, they will arrest people for refusing lockdown orders and mask mandates, they WILL follow orders.

Those select few that do not follow orders will either quit, or be fired. What’s left will be 100% willing to follow orders.
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by Nebraska
I don't see this happening for years to come because I don't think they're ready for the ramifications right now. The middle class (and even lower class) still have too many resources and that could be very costly to the government. Plus, there's still a lot of police, military, etc. that would side with the good guys and the Constitution. Now let the Dems continue to bankrupt the country by devaluing our currency, drive away industry/jobs through taxes/regulation, flood the population with illegal aliens, and brainwash the masses via their non-stop media propaganda and they might just get stupid to see what they can do.

I think you are being either extremely optimistic or are just naive.

They have been working towards this since the early 60’s quite possibly much earlier.
They will not wait forever.

The time is right, they have the country locked down, they have the country living in fear, they have the elections rigged, they have control of both houses of Congress, the Supreme Court AND the Military. They have all their Ducks in a Row and the time is NOW to pounce.

As for LE , don’t be ridiculous , cops like the Military will follow orders. They will Stand Down and allow citizens to be injured and killed, they will arrest people for defending themselves, they will arrest people for refusing lockdown orders and mask mandates, they WILL follow orders.

Those select few that do not follow orders will either quit, or be fired. What’s left will be 100% willing to follow orders.


I think what you will see is Special Units formed for the purpose. In lots of states, in more rural areas the local cops and the sheriffs aren't to keen on confiscation, but the state police are more of a threat. So there will be a specials firearms unit of the state police that does this sort of thing. The unit eventually will have a administrative/investigative unit that finds prohibited folks and confiscation unit that collects the firearms. It won't be hard to recruit enough officers who don't give a crap about rights.
Originally Posted by Lucas1
We had to have our burglar bars removed from our windows or the insurance company threatened to drop our insurance. I think insurance companies have been told to threaten customers to drop their home insurance if they don't remove their burglar bars for a reason other than people getting trapped inside their home. It's hard to shoot tear gas through windows if they are blocked with bars.


Chicken wire and staple gun?
Originally Posted by Redneck
Normally, I'd say the court would never agree.. But after the cowards (and allegedly conservative) refused to take on the last totally crooked election, I have ZERO faith that they'll actually uphold any part of the Constitution...

Originally Posted by Riverc
And if that happens,there will be cops getting killed.
Indeed...
I don't think any real evidence was given to the SCOTUS, nothing that would cause them to act. All we see here is internet rumor, none of which has the necessary evidence that will stand up in court. The left had 4 years to hide the incriminating stuff. What we see is nothing.
I thought last year at this time dems wanted stricter rules for warrants?

Are we not saying her name anymore?
Originally Posted by Hypocrite
I thought last year at this time dems wanted stricter rules for warrants?

Are we not saying her name anymore?

Depends on if we're talking Whites exercising traditional American liberties, or non-Whites engaging in conventional criminality. They have two different standards. For the former, the roughest possible treatment is preferred. For the latter, a slap on the wrist is called for.
It would suck to be caught up in the first wave of home invasions. If you have to give your guns please make sure you empty them first.
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