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Posted By: MadMooner Formula 1 Drive to survive - 04/01/21
Any of you folks watching this TV show?

Great racing program. Grew up in the south with dirt tracks and NASCAR, but it sucks azz any more.

The F1 show is great tv. Great racing footage and flat fugging badazz cars.

Posted By: natman Re: Formula 1 Drive to survive - 04/01/21
I just finished season 3. It's all been great, but season 3, episode 9 was an hour spent on the edge of my seat. It was so dramatic I was worn out by the end. Wow!
Posted By: 16bore Re: Formula 1 Drive to survive - 04/01/21
Nothing comes close to F1. Nothing.
MotoGP is some awesome racing.
Not watching it but grew up the same, I did catch clips of last weeks nascar race, they put dirt on Bristol. A nice step forward instead of several steps back like they usually do.
I love F1, but MotoGP and the Superbikes are pretty darned amazing to watch too. Watched Bike racing in Quatar the other night and they had graphics on the screen showing speed, lap times, time behind the leader and even how far the bikes were leaning in the corners. One corner they were leaning over 62 degrees going 120 mph.... cast iron balls on those riders....
NHRA Pro Nitro for me!
Not sure what the interest is. Single file racing. Team orders suck.
Give me a non-wing sprint car on a 1/4 mile dirt track any day. Three grooves of racing all the time.
racing stock cars on a road track would interest me. Special cars really don't
Posted By: KRAKMT Re: Formula 1 Drive to survive - 04/01/21
I have found it entertaining. You might also check out the Reggie Fountain documentary, not sure which platform it was on. Fountain was/is a boat racer turned builder.
Originally Posted by Sheister
I love F1, but MotoGP and the Superbikes are pretty darned amazing to watch too. Watched Bike racing in Quatar the other night and they had graphics on the screen showing speed, lap times, time behind the leader and even how far the bikes were leaning in the corners. One corner they were leaning over 62 degrees going 120 mph.... cast iron balls on those riders....

There isn’t another form of motor racing where the lead can change 4,5,6 times in one lap.
In most other forms of racing a pass needs to be set up for multiple laps and only happens on one turn or straightaway.

My initial introduction to motorcycle road racing was a student teacher in high school was an amateur 250cc road racer.
I got to see Kenny Roberts do things that seemed impossible.
Posted By: AML Re: Formula 1 Drive to survive - 04/01/21
Where do I find this show. I love formula 1. Bahrain turned out to be a great gp this year.
Posted By: KRAKMT Re: Formula 1 Drive to survive - 04/01/21
Hulu? I think.
Awesome show. Last episode pissed me off with Hamilton bringing up BLM though......then again, it IS Netflix.
Posted By: cs2blue Re: Formula 1 Drive to survive - 04/01/21
F1 racing is so awesome to me. First, 5 tire types that must be used during the race. Second, racing in the rain or wet conditions Nascar is scared to even try the tire requirement. and they cannot and will not even try racing in the wet. Stock cars are pigs to drive in regards to handling. Their road races are slow since the cars are terrible to drive and handle. Right turns to them are foreign concept. Nascar is over regulated and boring to watch. Thank god for F1 racing. An F1 race car can go zero to 100mph and back to zero in ten seconds!
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
racing stock cars on a road track would interest me. Special cars really don't


"Every" race car I've seen were special.
Posted By: RufusG Re: Formula 1 Drive to survive - 04/01/21
Originally Posted by cs2blue
and they cannot and will not even try racing in the wet.


Timely comment, I believe nascar is testing rain tires today at Martinsville.
Posted By: 16bore Re: Formula 1 Drive to survive - 04/01/21
F1 pits look like NASA control center.

Box, box, come to the box.
Posted By: deflave Re: Formula 1 Drive to survive - 04/01/21
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
racing stock cars on a road track would interest me. Special cars really don't


+1

20 or so 1997 Thunderbirds ripping around the city would be pretty intense.
Lewis Hamilton is set to join Michael Jordan’s NASCAR team and Bubba Wallace, as the seven-times Formula 1 World Champion takes on arguably the biggest challenge of his racing career with an announcement expected today.
In what will be one of motorsport’s most sensational ‘defections’ Hamilton will join what will become known as Team Michael Jordan in 2022, with the next Daytona 500 week debut for the team who will run black liveried cars with Monster energy drink as a title sponsor.

NBA legend Jordan is said to have personally contacted Hamilton and convinced the Mercedes driver that he has nothing more to prove in Formula 1 and that his next calling is to join Wallace in tackling NASCAR.

Jordan is also said to be underwriting Hamilton’s $25-million salary from 2022 until the end of 2024, reportedly the length of the first phase of the deal, which means that the basketball legend will ramp up his personal involvement in the project.

For Hamilton, this provides an incentive beyond Formula 1, a project which he can embrace at the end of his final season with Mercedes. The German team have provided the Briton with immense cars and he delivered six titles for them (maybe seven come to the end of 2021) to add to the one he claimed for McLaren in 2008.

According to a source close to the project, Hamilton did not hesitate to sign on the dotted line once Jordan had outlined his ambitions in NASCAR, which include junior teams for disadvantaged drivers, and those of colour, to contest the various feeder series’ that make up the various rosters.

Wallace is expected to welcome Hamilton to the fold, with an intense testing programme on the cards to bring the F1 superstar up to speed, as Jordan insists that it be a team effort to take the outfit forward. For Bubba, it is a partner-in-arms he can do with.

As for a timeline, speculation is that after this evening’s announcement (expected 6pm ET) on NBC by Jordan and Wallace with Hamilton on video conference where they will outline their goals and plans.

Apart from Monster Energy as the title sponsor, it is believed that Hamilton has had talks with Toto Wolff and Mercedes AMG, convincing them to be part of the programme, with technical and financial support before a fully-fledged NASCAR programme for the German manufacturer starting 2023, a year after Hamilton’s first full season Stateside.

For Hamilton, this is a huge change of direction from a sport he has dominated for almost a decade to one where he will start off as a rookie and will have a ton to learn. He will also be running in packs with very equal machinery, something he has not been accustomed to since Mercedes started dominating the sport so ruthlessly.

Nevertheless, Jordan has convinced Hamilton that his business in F1 is done, all records achieved and that the next chapter of his legacy is NASCAR and racing in the USA for at least the next three years, which will suit the Briton who has always been comfortable in a country he regularly visits and where he rubs shoulders with A-listers.

Apart from the abovementioned $25-million per annum deal, Hamilton will be entitled to all the winnings he earns which would add to the reatiner. Word is that Hamilton will donate his race winnings to the worth causes.

But it is clear from the outset that money was not the sweetener used by Jordan to convince Hamilton to take up the challenge, but rather he sold him the NASCAR project as a cause célèbre worth fighting alongside Wallace.

What tipped Hamilton, was Jordan who cited the historic case of NBA player Charles “Chuck” Cooper, Nat “Sweetwater” Clifton and Earl Lloyd, became the first African-American players in the NBA in 1950. They were pioneers who triggered a revolution in sport.

Since then players of colour dominate the hoops, as they do in baseball and American football. Tiger Woods changed the golfing landscape forever, while Hamilton himself became the first black driver to race and win in F1.

Jordan’s dream is to do the same with NASCAR in the long-term. The last frontier it is being called.

This year the team is in a partnership with Joe Gibbs Racing which will morph into Team Michael Jordan starting in 2022 with Hamilton and Wallace in the driving seats; the F1 World Champion set to run #44 on his car.

Jordan has said of his NASCAR ambitions when he signed up to back Wallace: “We don’t sign cheques for losers. I feel like he’s going to learn how to win. He’s got the talent. We would not have invested in him and picked him if he didn’t have the talent to win.

By the end of the year, I think he’s going to have an opportunity, and he probably will win at least a couple of races. If it’s more, I’d be elated,” added Jordan, who will be inking some hefty cheques with Hamilton’s name on it, but one gets the feeling that money is the least of their worries as there will be a queue of backers for this Dream Team.

https://www.grandprix247.com/2021/04/01/hamilton-to-join-michael-jordans-nascar-team-in-2022/
Posted By: RufusG Re: Formula 1 Drive to survive - 04/01/21
Dateline April 1st?
Posted By: natman Re: Formula 1 Drive to survive - 04/01/21
Originally Posted by AML
Where do I find this show. I love formula 1. Bahrain turned out to be a great gp this year.

Netflix has it.
Just saw the BLM bullschat last night. Bunch of twats.
Originally Posted by RufusG
Dateline April 1st?


I'm guessing. Especially since the article mentions Hamilton's new salary at 25 mil. Pretty sure he earns North of 60 mil a year now with Mercedes.

That'd be a hell of a pay cut.
Posted By: 16bore Re: Formula 1 Drive to survive - 04/01/21
Valtteri Bottas wouldn’t miss his ass for sure. Lewis Hamilton is the Jeff Gordon of F1.
Posted By: Steve Re: Formula 1 Drive to survive - 04/01/21
I like F1. But I'd liked to see a couple of longer races on large high speed oval.
Posted By: RufusG Re: Formula 1 Drive to survive - 04/01/21
Originally Posted by Steve
I like F1. But I'd liked to see a couple of longer races on large high speed oval.


http://www.speedhunters.com/2009/06/temple_of_speed_gt_gt_the_monza_banking/
Originally Posted by MadMooner
Originally Posted by RufusG
Dateline April 1st?


I'm guessing. Especially since the article mentions Hamilton's new salary at 25 mil. Pretty sure he earns North of 60 mil a year now with Mercedes.

That'd be a hell of a pay cut.


Big step back for Hamilton if he goes the NASCAR route.
Posted By: cs2blue Re: Formula 1 Drive to survive - 04/01/21
Nascar is testing rain tires? Wow that's a huge step for them. But in end they will find 19 reasons not to implement them due to rules upon rules for the love rules or the drivers complain about getting wet. Example,of a Nascar rule for rain during races, the race cannot be run if the rain is more then 70% wet.
I like the NASCAR road course events. Fun to watch them bend all that sheet metal up.

3 or 4 hours of large oval racing puts me to sleep.
Posted By: Steve Re: Formula 1 Drive to survive - 04/01/21
Originally Posted by RufusG
Originally Posted by Steve
I like F1. But I'd liked to see a couple of longer races on large high speed oval.


http://www.speedhunters.com/2009/06/temple_of_speed_gt_gt_the_monza_banking/



Cool! Lets fix it up and get them back on it.
Needs to be cross country. Coast to coast.
Originally Posted by gahuntertom
Lewis Hamilton is set to join Michael Jordan’s NASCAR team and Bubba Wallace, as the seven-times Formula 1 World Champion takes on arguably the biggest challenge of his racing career with an announcement expected today.
In what will be one of motorsport’s most sensational ‘defections’ Hamilton will join what will become known as Team Michael Jordan in 2022, with the next Daytona 500 week debut for the team who will run black liveried cars with Monster energy drink as a title sponsor.

NBA legend Jordan is said to have personally contacted Hamilton and convinced the Mercedes driver that he has nothing more to prove in Formula 1 and that his next calling is to join Wallace in tackling NASCAR.

Jordan is also said to be underwriting Hamilton’s $25-million salary from 2022 until the end of 2024, reportedly the length of the first phase of the deal, which means that the basketball legend will ramp up his personal involvement in the project.

For Hamilton, this provides an incentive beyond Formula 1, a project which he can embrace at the end of his final season with Mercedes. The German team have provided the Briton with immense cars and he delivered six titles for them (maybe seven come to the end of 2021) to add to the one he claimed for McLaren in 2008.

According to a source close to the project, Hamilton did not hesitate to sign on the dotted line once Jordan had outlined his ambitions in NASCAR, which include junior teams for disadvantaged drivers, and those of colour, to contest the various feeder series’ that make up the various rosters.

Wallace is expected to welcome Hamilton to the fold, with an intense testing programme on the cards to bring the F1 superstar up to speed, as Jordan insists that it be a team effort to take the outfit forward. For Bubba, it is a partner-in-arms he can do with.

As for a timeline, speculation is that after this evening’s announcement (expected 6pm ET) on NBC by Jordan and Wallace with Hamilton on video conference where they will outline their goals and plans.

Apart from Monster Energy as the title sponsor, it is believed that Hamilton has had talks with Toto Wolff and Mercedes AMG, convincing them to be part of the programme, with technical and financial support before a fully-fledged NASCAR programme for the German manufacturer starting 2023, a year after Hamilton’s first full season Stateside.

For Hamilton, this is a huge change of direction from a sport he has dominated for almost a decade to one where he will start off as a rookie and will have a ton to learn. He will also be running in packs with very equal machinery, something he has not been accustomed to since Mercedes started dominating the sport so ruthlessly.

Nevertheless, Jordan has convinced Hamilton that his business in F1 is done, all records achieved and that the next chapter of his legacy is NASCAR and racing in the USA for at least the next three years, which will suit the Briton who has always been comfortable in a country he regularly visits and where he rubs shoulders with A-listers.

Apart from the abovementioned $25-million per annum deal, Hamilton will be entitled to all the winnings he earns which would add to the reatiner. Word is that Hamilton will donate his race winnings to the worth causes.

But it is clear from the outset that money was not the sweetener used by Jordan to convince Hamilton to take up the challenge, but rather he sold him the NASCAR project as a cause célèbre worth fighting alongside Wallace.

What tipped Hamilton, was Jordan who cited the historic case of NBA player Charles “Chuck” Cooper, Nat “Sweetwater” Clifton and Earl Lloyd, became the first African-American players in the NBA in 1950. They were pioneers who triggered a revolution in sport.

Since then players of colour dominate the hoops, as they do in baseball and American football. Tiger Woods changed the golfing landscape forever, while Hamilton himself became the first black driver to race and win in F1.

Jordan’s dream is to do the same with NASCAR in the long-term. The last frontier it is being called.

This year the team is in a partnership with Joe Gibbs Racing which will morph into Team Michael Jordan starting in 2022 with Hamilton and Wallace in the driving seats; the F1 World Champion set to run #44 on his car.

Jordan has said of his NASCAR ambitions when he signed up to back Wallace: “We don’t sign cheques for losers. I feel like he’s going to learn how to win. He’s got the talent. We would not have invested in him and picked him if he didn’t have the talent to win.

By the end of the year, I think he’s going to have an opportunity, and he probably will win at least a couple of races. If it’s more, I’d be elated,” added Jordan, who will be inking some hefty cheques with Hamilton’s name on it, but one gets the feeling that money is the least of their worries as there will be a queue of backers for this Dream Team.

https://www.grandprix247.com/2021/04/01/hamilton-to-join-michael-jordans-nascar-team-in-2022/

If Hamilton goes to NASCAR it’s because he’s worried about getting too old for F1. Reflexes slow down a little bit. Race too long in F1 and you’re at high risk of death.
Posted By: cs2blue Re: Formula 1 Drive to survive - 04/02/21
Hamilton, we not make the kind of money that he makes in F1 driving in Nascar. He is crazy successful in F1, Nascar would be a step down for him. He is a international super star in F1. Not saying it would not happen. but.....
Originally Posted by cs2blue
Nascar is over regulated and boring to watch.


This^^^

Nascar has sucked since restrictor plates, the woke BLM crap is just kicking a dead mule. If it went away completely I'd say good riddance.
Posted By: cs2blue Re: Formula 1 Drive to survive - 04/02/21
Crow hunter, amen to that, Yup nascar is so boring that I would rather watch c-span.. And no ,they will never run in the rain or wet tracks. Hell they have yet to discover the you can used one central hub nut to hold a tire on....., not five lug nuts,every other form of racing knows this. What a bunch of closed minded thinkers. Over regulated, over commentated racing. You would have to be hammered drunk to watch them drive in circles week after week. How unimaginative and utterly boring.
Originally Posted by gahuntertom
Lewis Hamilton is set to join Michael Jordan’s NASCAR team and Bubba Wallace, as the seven-times Formula 1 World Champion takes on arguably the biggest challenge of his racing career with an announcement expected today.
In what will be one of motorsport’s most sensational ‘defections’ Hamilton will join what will become known as Team Michael Jordan in 2022, with the next Daytona 500 week debut for the team who will run black liveried cars with Monster energy drink as a title sponsor.

NBA legend Jordan is said to have personally contacted Hamilton and convinced the Mercedes driver that he has nothing more to prove in Formula 1 and that his next calling is to join Wallace in tackling NASCAR.

Jordan is also said to be underwriting Hamilton’s $25-million salary from 2022 until the end of 2024, reportedly the length of the first phase of the deal, which means that the basketball legend will ramp up his personal involvement in the project.

For Hamilton, this provides an incentive beyond Formula 1, a project which he can embrace at the end of his final season with Mercedes. The German team have provided the Briton with immense cars and he delivered six titles for them (maybe seven come to the end of 2021) to add to the one he claimed for McLaren in 2008.

According to a source close to the project, Hamilton did not hesitate to sign on the dotted line once Jordan had outlined his ambitions in NASCAR, which include junior teams for disadvantaged drivers, and those of colour, to contest the various feeder series’ that make up the various rosters.

Wallace is expected to welcome Hamilton to the fold, with an intense testing programme on the cards to bring the F1 superstar up to speed, as Jordan insists that it be a team effort to take the outfit forward. For Bubba, it is a partner-in-arms he can do with.

As for a timeline, speculation is that after this evening’s announcement (expected 6pm ET) on NBC by Jordan and Wallace with Hamilton on video conference where they will outline their goals and plans.

Apart from Monster Energy as the title sponsor, it is believed that Hamilton has had talks with Toto Wolff and Mercedes AMG, convincing them to be part of the programme, with technical and financial support before a fully-fledged NASCAR programme for the German manufacturer starting 2023, a year after Hamilton’s first full season Stateside.

For Hamilton, this is a huge change of direction from a sport he has dominated for almost a decade to one where he will start off as a rookie and will have a ton to learn. He will also be running in packs with very equal machinery, something he has not been accustomed to since Mercedes started dominating the sport so ruthlessly.

Nevertheless, Jordan has convinced Hamilton that his business in F1 is done, all records achieved and that the next chapter of his legacy is NASCAR and racing in the USA for at least the next three years, which will suit the Briton who has always been comfortable in a country he regularly visits and where he rubs shoulders with A-listers.

Apart from the abovementioned $25-million per annum deal, Hamilton will be entitled to all the winnings he earns which would add to the reatiner. Word is that Hamilton will donate his race winnings to the worth causes.

But it is clear from the outset that money was not the sweetener used by Jordan to convince Hamilton to take up the challenge, but rather he sold him the NASCAR project as a cause célèbre worth fighting alongside Wallace.

What tipped Hamilton, was Jordan who cited the historic case of NBA player Charles “Chuck” Cooper, Nat “Sweetwater” Clifton and Earl Lloyd, became the first African-American players in the NBA in 1950. They were pioneers who triggered a revolution in sport.

Since then players of colour dominate the hoops, as they do in baseball and American football. Tiger Woods changed the golfing landscape forever, while Hamilton himself became the first black driver to race and win in F1.

Jordan’s dream is to do the same with NASCAR in the long-term. The last frontier it is being called.

This year the team is in a partnership with Joe Gibbs Racing which will morph into Team Michael Jordan starting in 2022 with Hamilton and Wallace in the driving seats; the F1 World Champion set to run #44 on his car.

Jordan has said of his NASCAR ambitions when he signed up to back Wallace: “We don’t sign cheques for losers. I feel like he’s going to learn how to win. He’s got the talent. We would not have invested in him and picked him if he didn’t have the talent to win.

By the end of the year, I think he’s going to have an opportunity, and he probably will win at least a couple of races. If it’s more, I’d be elated,” added Jordan, who will be inking some hefty cheques with Hamilton’s name on it, but one gets the feeling that money is the least of their worries as there will be a queue of backers for this Dream Team.

https://www.grandprix247.com/2021/04/01/hamilton-to-join-michael-jordans-nascar-team-in-2022/







When do Antifa and BLM start racing NASCAR?
Originally Posted by mtnsnake
Needs to be cross country. Coast to coast.




Posted By: natman Re: Formula 1 Drive to survive - 04/03/21
Originally Posted by cs2blue
the race cannot be run if the rain is more then 70% wet.

What's the other 30%?
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