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Posted By: wabigoon Hamstring pain/irratation? - 04/01/21
I'm afraid it's in a lower vertebrata, sort of a slight burning, dull ache.

I'd like to be rid of it.
Irratata of the vertabrata


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Good luck with that one. I've been dealing with it for several years now myself. Epidurals and facet injections help me. Probably the biggie is a daily routine of stretching. I'm talking about 20-30 minutes worth. I learned a lot in 3 months of physical therapy. Good luck
Thanks kind folks.
Posted By: hanco Re: Hamstring pain/irratation? - 04/01/21
Grab your foot, pull it up behind you. It helps my lower back and hamstring. I do this everyday. If I get away from it, look out, it comes back.
Posted By: KFWA Re: Hamstring pain/irratation? - 04/01/21
I had sciatica? It was a burning sensation that felt like it was inside the middle of my thigh. It didn't start in my back but it was a burning sensation that went down my right side starting around my butt and ended just above my knee.

Like Hanco said, the only relief I got from it was me laying on the floor , raising my leg up and my wife leaning her shoulder on my heel and stretching my leg back. If I didn't do that, I couldn't sit down for more than 2 minutes. I couldn't drive or work until I figured it out. Lasted about a month, took me 3 - 4 days to end up stretching it to get relief. But I just had to stretch in the morning to get relief for most of the day
Lower back pain can be brutal. Many of us, (all of us deal with some form of it) can get relief if we can keep the weight down and the exercise and stretching consistent. Problem(for me anyway) is the amount of degeneration between the joints that started many years ago!
Posted By: KFWA Re: Hamstring pain/irratation? - 04/01/21
I keep telling myself that I need to get in the habit of stretching every day just to have some flexibility when I get older. But I never think to do it.
I don't have the sciatic pain, but have been dealing with pretty bad chronic lower back pain for some time, which got worse when I slipped on ice and landed on the side of my hip. Chiropractor has me feeling better for a couple of days, but then it's back. I also have pretty bad arthritis in that same area. Nice double-whammy for a guy who works in a trade.

I hope you get some relief, Wabi.
Hinge exercises keep this from happening. For those of you able to do them, do 1x per week.
Posted By: Etoh Re: Hamstring pain/irratation? - 04/01/21
In addition to the exercise --

Depletion of ATP, causes shifts in the Ca, and Na , K, concentrations., causing cramping , in addition of not enough ATP to fully constrict and relax the muscle (lower ATP means lower AMP = relaxation)

Add Mg to your diet to restore enzymes in this pathway , and Creatine which help replace the adenosine.
Posted By: ribka Re: Hamstring pain/irratation? - 04/01/21
Originally Posted by wabigoon
I'm afraid it's in a lower vertebrata, sort of a slight burning, dull ache.

I'd like to be rid of it.


many people want to end aches and pains but want a quick simple solution. can't get any easier than this -10 to 15 min and great for back, legs, shoulders, neck

strechting, yoga should be part of your every day routine or live in constant pain and limited mobility

Posted By: ribka Re: Hamstring pain/irratation? - 04/01/21
weak glutes, due to our sedentary lifestyle and sitting causes lots of back issues. these exercises work great





Hamstring pain may or may not be sciatica. Could be hamstring pain.

A good P.T. who works on jocks and athletes may be a good place to start. Lots of states allow direct access. They can eval that kinda stuff about as well as an ortho, probably better than the typical GP/FP/nurse practioner and they can initiate treatment. They'll know if it's sciatica and will tell you if you need to see a doc for an MRI, steroids, muscle relaxers, etc.

OTC anti-inflams (NSAIDS) work well. Prescription strength Ibuprophen (Motrin), for example is 800-600-400 mg. Or you can get 200 mg at the grocery store and do the math. As is taught in Toxicology 101, "the poison is in the dose"....

Let us know how it goes.

DF

Most common location for nerve root impingement is L4-5. As mentioned do stretches, low back exercises; use NSAIDs as tolerated. Epidural steroid inj’s may help.

Of course it might be something else also.
Could be Deadassadophilus,

sittin bull syndrome
Medical Marijuana Wabi
Get your self some zig zags.
Lots of Brownies and 2% milk.



Thank me later.
LOL!!!
Originally Posted by renegade50
Medical Marijuana Wabi
Get your self some zig zags.
Lots of Brownies and 2% milk.



Thank me later.
LOL!!!



It works, for sure.

But, diagnose first. Then treat.

Aim first, then fire.

Or something like that.

DF
Laminectomy,Facetomy and Forminotmy L 4/5 finally got rid of the pain and numbness in my legs.
Posted By: ribka Re: Hamstring pain/irratation? - 04/01/21
surgery is a very last resort.
It was...
Any chiropractors in Ioway?
Posted By: WMR Re: Hamstring pain/irratation? - 04/01/21
Ivermectin. Wait.....wrong thread. Never mind.
Originally Posted by WMR
Ivermectin. Wait.....wrong thread. Never mind.

Well done! 😄😄
Originally Posted by ribka
surgery is a very last resort.

That's for sure.
Originally Posted by ribka
surgery is a very last resort.


NEVER allow any orthopedic surgeon to touch your back. If there is no neurosurgeon where you are, go where there is one.
I should pump up the Swiss ball, and stretch over it.
When life gives you hamstrings......you just make ham.

Mmmm, huh. And get some mustard
Originally Posted by ironbender
Any chiropractors in Ioway?

IME, sports oriented PT’s are a better choice with a hamstring inj than a chiro. Good ones can do spine manipulations like the chiros and they can do a lot more when it comes to joints, muscles, dynamic motion and function.

Chiros do pretty well on spines, less effective with shoulders, knees, etc.

DF
Originally Posted by Borchardt
Originally Posted by ribka
surgery is a very last resort.


NEVER allow any orthopedic surgeon to touch your back. If there is no neurosurgeon where you are, go where there is one.

Yep, my surgery was done by a neurosurgeon, I think they look at solving the issue differently.
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by ironbender
Any chiropractors in Ioway?

IME, sports oriented PT’s are a better choice with a hamstring inj than a chiro. Good ones can do spine manipulations like the chiros and they can do a lot more when it comes to joints, muscles, dynamic motion and function.

Chiros do pretty well on spines, less effective with shoulders, knees, etc.

DF


For sure. And, as always, if one goes that route, a “good” chiropractor is what is needed. I had one that was great at adjusting extremities.

But, wabi mentioned “lower vertebrata”.

We have a PT whose focus in myofascial release and does great stuff.
Posted By: killerv Re: Hamstring pain/irratation? - 04/01/21
I hear Desean Watson knows a masseuse or two
Originally Posted by ribka
weak glutes, due to our sedentary lifestyle and sitting causes lots of back issues. these exercises work great






I owe you one, seriously. I've been suffering quite a bit lately with lower back pain, so I tried one of the exercises in the first video you shared and am amazed at how much it helped. I slept better last night and woke feeling pretty good. Usually I'm hurting as soon as I get up, but not this morning. I did another set of the exercise this morning and am doing way better at work today, so a huge thank you for the video.

Who would have thought that 3-4 minutes of an exercise could have made such a difference?
Originally Posted by SMalloy805
Originally Posted by Borchardt
Originally Posted by ribka
surgery is a very last resort.


NEVER allow any orthopedic surgeon to touch your back. If there is no neurosurgeon where you are, go where there is one.

Yep, my surgery was done by a neurosurgeon, I think they look at solving the issue differently.

One guy here locally is an ortho spine surgeon with three spine fellowships. His first was with well known Neuorsurgeon, Dr. Nanda at LSU in Shreveport, LA. He said he wasnted to see how the neuros did it. Second was at Stanford in CA. He said he got a really nice certificate, but wasn't that impressed with Stanford, He did his third spine fellowship in Memphis, said that one was the real deal. Now, that's after a 5 yr ortho residency, then three, one year fellowships on top of that. Then, throw in four years of college, four years of med school. I count 16 yrs of intense training.

All he does is spine and I place him, at least in my mind, above our local neurosurgeons with zero spine fellowships. They do pretty good, but this guy is one of a kind. His patients do great. He's not knife happy, is actually very conservative, preferring to try injections, P.T. etc. before sharpening a knife.

It dpends on the individual surgeon. IMO, you can't just say no ortho, go neuro.

DF
Motion is lotion. Stretch, stretch, and stretch some more.

Lay on the ground. Keep your hips planted and push upwards with you arms raising your torso. That's a great stretch for disc's in the lumbar area of the spine. Also focus on stretches for the hamstrings and lower back.

I had a 6mm bulging disc (L5S1) and got it back to normal (squatting over 500lbs) with moderate Physical therapy.
Be danged DF, good to see you up this late, my loser consulting retired ass is waiting on a sat call, anyway, back to the OP inquiry, i hear these afflictions are caused from being a sanctimonious, condescending, self righteous, asswipe prick and not eating a banana per day and exercising one's prostrate several times daily, oh well, maybe i heard wrong, the info was worth the price paid, which was zero.
Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy
Motion is lotion. Stretch, stretch, and stretch some more.

Lay on the ground. Keep your hips planted and push upwards with you arms raising your torso. That's a great stretch for disc's in the lumbar area of the spine. Also focus on stretches for the hamstrings and lower back.

I had a 6mm bulging disc (L5S1) and got it back to normal (squatting over 500lbs) with moderate PT


When her face is buried in a pillow and she's squalling like a gut shot panther, you're doing your spine a solid, but most likely not doing her neck vertebrae any favors!
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by renegade50
Medical Marijuana Wabi
Get your self some zig zags.
Lots of Brownies and 2% milk.



Thank me later.
LOL!!!



It works, for sure.

But, diagnose first. Then treat.

Aim first, then fire.

Or something like that.

DF

If it's lots of Brownies,don't do 2per cent milk.
Grab a RootBeer 👍. Amen
Posted By: Dutch Re: Hamstring pain/irratation? - 04/02/21
Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by ironbender
Any chiropractors in Ioway?

IME, sports oriented PT’s are a better choice with a hamstring inj than a chiro. Good ones can do spine manipulations like the chiros and they can do a lot more when it comes to joints, muscles, dynamic motion and function.

Chiros do pretty well on spines, less effective with shoulders, knees, etc.

DF


For sure. And, as always, if one goes that route, a “good” chiropractor is what is needed. I had one that was great at adjusting extremities.

But, wabi mentioned “lower vertebrata”.

We have a PT whose focus in myofascial release and does great stuff.


I walked around with lower back and leg pain for 17 years until a Doc-in-a-box sent me to a PT, who diagnosed and corrected an SI joint dislocation in 30 minutes.

Huge fan of PT’s, obviously.

Stretching keeps it from re-occurring. Strenuous work or exercise shortens tendons and muscles and makes it worse, and increases the need for stretching.
Originally Posted by Dutch
Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by ironbender
Any chiropractors in Ioway?

IME, sports oriented PT’s are a better choice with a hamstring inj than a chiro. Good ones can do spine manipulations like the chiros and they can do a lot more when it comes to joints, muscles, dynamic motion and function.

Chiros do pretty well on spines, less effective with shoulders, knees, etc.

DF


For sure. And, as always, if one goes that route, a “good” chiropractor is what is needed. I had one that was great at adjusting extremities.

But, wabi mentioned “lower vertebrata”.

We have a PT whose focus in myofascial release and does great stuff.


I walked around with lower back and leg pain for 17 years until a Doc-in-a-box sent me to a PT, who diagnosed and corrected an SI joint dislocation in 30 minutes.

Huge fan of PT’s, obviously.

Stretching keeps it from re-occurring. Strenuous work or exercise shortens tendons and muscles and makes it worse, and increases the need for stretching.

Now, that's a whole different can of worms. Surgeons don't pay much attention to SI and Piriformis Syndrome as it's not a surgical problem.

The piriformis muscle can spasm on the sciatic nerve and can mimic discogenic radiculopathy. P.T.'s are the best as dealing with and even diagnosing that condition. I haven't seen much from chiros on SI. The other two muscle groups that can go into spasm from SI disorder are the quadratus, which runs up the side of the back and the iliopsoas (tenderloin) which can cause groin pain.

Google it and see it explanined anatomically.

DF
Posted By: Dutch Re: Hamstring pain/irratation? - 04/02/21
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by Dutch
Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by ironbender
Any chiropractors in Ioway?

IME, sports oriented PT’s are a better choice with a hamstring inj than a chiro. Good ones can do spine manipulations like the chiros and they can do a lot more when it comes to joints, muscles, dynamic motion and function.

Chiros do pretty well on spines, less effective with shoulders, knees, etc.

DF


For sure. And, as always, if one goes that route, a “good” chiropractor is what is needed. I had one that was great at adjusting extremities.

But, wabi mentioned “lower vertebrata”.

We have a PT whose focus in myofascial release and does great stuff.


I walked around with lower back and leg pain for 17 years until a Doc-in-a-box sent me to a PT, who diagnosed and corrected an SI joint dislocation in 30 minutes.

Huge fan of PT’s, obviously.

Stretching keeps it from re-occurring. Strenuous work or exercise shortens tendons and muscles and makes it worse, and increases the need for stretching.

Now, that's a whole different can of worms. Surgeons don't pay much attention to SI and Piriformis Syndrome as it's not a surgical problem.

The piriformis muscle can spasm on the sciatic nerve and can mimic discogenic radiculopathy. P.T.'s are the best as dealing with and even diagnosing that condition. I haven't seen much from chiros on SI. The other two muscle groups that can go into spasm from SI disorder are the quadratus, which runs up the side of the back and the iliopsoas (tenderloin) which can cause groin pain.

Google it and see it explanined anatomically.

DF


All sounding very familiar.....

Which brings to mind the saying “to a man with a hammer, everything looks like a nail”. The older I get, the more disenchanted I get by how medicine is practiced, as every specialist is very good at finding that nail he can hammer down.
Give me a PM and I'll pray with you about this.
Originally Posted by Dutch
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by Dutch
Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by ironbender
Any chiropractors in Ioway?

IME, sports oriented PT’s are a better choice with a hamstring inj than a chiro. Good ones can do spine manipulations like the chiros and they can do a lot more when it comes to joints, muscles, dynamic motion and function.

Chiros do pretty well on spines, less effective with shoulders, knees, etc.

DF


For sure. And, as always, if one goes that route, a “good” chiropractor is what is needed. I had one that was great at adjusting extremities.

But, wabi mentioned “lower vertebrata”.

We have a PT whose focus in myofascial release and does great stuff.


I walked around with lower back and leg pain for 17 years until a Doc-in-a-box sent me to a PT, who diagnosed and corrected an SI joint dislocation in 30 minutes.

Huge fan of PT’s, obviously.

Stretching keeps it from re-occurring. Strenuous work or exercise shortens tendons and muscles and makes it worse, and increases the need for stretching.

Now, that's a whole different can of worms. Surgeons don't pay much attention to SI and Piriformis Syndrome as it's not a surgical problem.

The piriformis muscle can spasm on the sciatic nerve and can mimic discogenic radiculopathy. P.T.'s are the best as dealing with and even diagnosing that condition. I haven't seen much from chiros on SI. The other two muscle groups that can go into spasm from SI disorder are the quadratus, which runs up the side of the back and the iliopsoas (tenderloin) which can cause groin pain.

Google it and see it explanined anatomically.

DF


All sounding very familiar.....

Which brings to mind the saying “to a man with a hammer, everything looks like a nail”. The older I get, the more disenchanted I get by how medicine is practiced, as every specialist is very good at finding that nail he can hammer down.

Some truth to that, unfortunately.

DF
Thanks men! Horse liniment on, time for the ice pack.
Originally Posted by wabigoon
Thanks men! Horse liniment on, time for the ice pack.

Ice for sure during the acute phase.

Over time, muscles like heat, joints like ice.

DF
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