in an area with no Grizz. Which 5 would it be? Let's say it's bugout time and you get away from whatever it is with just the clothes on your back, but you've got a fully stocked cabin in the mountains and it's got the five guns you had the foresight to stash there along with a full supply of ammo. Possibilities are everything up to Griz and also self-defense.
I could get by with the first three easily but the fourth is mo-betta and the fifth really is just added to duplicate the Governor. Going to town and CCWing would be made easier by the fifth even though it's not a real CCW piece. If I could add one more it would be my Ruger MkIII 22 LR with a full bull barrel.
BCM or similar 5.56 AR with a mid length gas system
Rem 870 12gauge
Glock 19x
A good low maintenance stainless synthetic stocked bolt action 308 Win. Overall I’d rather have a 30-06 but would go 308 for a compact short action rifle with a 20” barrel and the ability to shoot 7.62x51 military ammo in a pinch.
in an area with no Grizz. Which 5 would it be? Let's say it's bugout time and you get away from whatever it is with just the clothes on your back, but you've got a fully stocked cabin in the mountains and it's got the five guns you had the foresight to stash there along with a full supply of ammo. Possibilities are everything up to Griz and also self-defense.
I could get by with the first three easily but the fourth is mo-betta and the fifth really is just added to duplicate the Governor. Going to town and CCWing would be made easier by the fifth even though it's not a real CCW piece. If I could add one more it would be my Ruger MkIII 22 LR with a full bull barrel.
If it's truly "Bugout-Time" and you have chosen something other than 22lr and/or what might be carried by a member of the military or law enforcement you're a slack-jawed booger-eating moron.
.223 Colt 6920. I already use them for deer 20 ga lightweight/youth multi chokes .22 lr cz 455 or 457 6.5 cm, 7mm-08 or just a 308 in a lightweight 700 type or Kimber Montana 9mm Glock 19
in an area with no Grizz. Which 5 would it be? Let's say it's bugout time and you get away from whatever it is with just the clothes on your back, but you've got a fully stocked cabin in the mountains and it's got the five guns you had the foresight to stash there along with a full supply of ammo. Possibilities are everything up to Griz and also self-defense.
I could get by with the first three easily but the fourth is mo-betta and the fifth really is just added to duplicate the Governor. Going to town and CCWing would be made easier by the fifth even though it's not a real CCW piece. If I could add one more it would be my Ruger MkIII 22 LR with a full bull barrel.
If it's truly "Bugout-Time" and you have chosen something other than 22lr and/or what might be carried by a member of the military or law enforcement you're a slack-jawed booger-eating moron.
Indeed I may be a slack-jawed, booger-eating moron and proud of it, I might add, but if you'll peruse the OP, it said you leave wherever you're at with only the clothes on your back and your guns are already stashed along with ammo, at your uber cabin in the woods.
I've had a list for years I call The 6. When more & more social unrest appeared I had to add an AR but couldn't bring myself to sacrifice anything & the list became The 7. So five is tough.
But for sure,
870 in 12 ga. Ruger 77/22 AW-scoped. Glock 19/23 Scoped bolt action in 25-30 caliber.
I guess adding an AR, AK or the like will make the five, but sure would like to have a Super Blackhawk or 629 & an accurate 22 pistol.
I would actually reduce it to 3 if things were that grim.
Bolt action 22LR with a can. AR in 5.56 with a can. Glock 17
I’d use the 22 as much as possible for hunting smallish stuff or even head-shoot deer. I could hunt anything the size of deer or bigger with the AR. Glock 17 is just a last-ditch secondary.
Smith 617 4" .22LR CZ 455 Scout .22LR (already threaded for a can) 870 Turkey Gun 12 gauge Some kind of deer rifle (whatever, anything can kill a deer) 1911 .45
Probably could get buy with one gun'- Remington 11-87 12g. W/2 barrels 1 accepts 4 chokes 2nd. is a slug barrel also 11/2-4 power scope. Lots & lots of shells. Just too name 4 others A long discontinued 22 mag. pistol that holds 30 rounds. Everyone's choose a 10-22 scoped of course A 376 Styr that is good for elk to buffalo. 6 power scope. Remington 45. Similar to Colt I carried in VietNam
MY choice of the 22 mag was difficult with the 45 pistol & 22 rifle. First it's a cool pistol by holding 30 rounds, second it's a lot quiter than a 45 but granted noisier that a 22lr, but the added energy will take down feral dogs, wild hogs, coyotes, turkeys. & even small deer. The 376 is a versatile caliber that is good for deer to African game. I have a lot of ammo & reloading components for all the rifles referenced. Last inventory I had over 19,000 primers, many boxes of bullets, lots of brass, & assorted powders. tbear
This is always a good exercise. My friends and I have done it a couple of times, but always with our own, presently owned guns. And I can never bring myself down to just 5...
But, here goes....
1. Ruger 10-22 sporter w/Green Mountain barrel. 2. Ruger Mark II SS 6.875 tapered barrel 3. Colt Light Rifle in 30-06 (and it would go to Melvin) 4. Remington 1100 in 12ga (I'll need a rifled barrel for it) 5. Because I'm forced into one handgun, a Glock 23.
If there were a good rimfire conversion for the Glock, I would replace the Ruger pistol with a good AR in .223
But 5 is just too few for me. Hell, I even had to leave my Krag off the list. Does it get an exemption because its 120+ years old? 👍
So in this scenario, are we talking ourselves or selves + family.
Guns we currently own, or given the scenario at hand the 5 we wish we did.
The only one that might give problems to my family is the Gold Cup, though the recoil isn't any worse than the Governor. I just think my wife and daughter would handle the Governor better. I'd probably have a 30-06 instead anyway. But yeah, apply it to others in your family if you so desire. I've got a wife and two kids and the daughter's boyfriend to think about, so five guns total is pretty light for the whole crew anyway.
colt M-4 AR-15 in 223 (lots of 30 rd mags) Colt .45 Combat Commander (extended mags a plus) DPMS GII AR-10 in .308 (lots of 30 rd mags) Springfield armory XDm in .45 auto a tie between Weatherby Vanguard Bolt action .308 and Remington 700 in .308
you can never go wrong with lots of quality 45 ACP and semi auto / bolt action .308
I have what I listed and have plenty of ammo to feed them for the rest of my life for hunting and shtf self defense unless it was total war. I like having more choices just because.
Glock 23 with 9mm conversion and mags Marlin 795 or 70 PSS Papoose. Either will do 45-70 leveraction Colt 6920 Ruger Hawkeye 30-06 or GSR Scout rifle, either works
This isnt a far fetched scenerio, Califronians are moving into my part of the world in droves and buying up everythjng as are the left coasties.
Glock 23 with 9mm conversion and mags Marlin 795 or 70 PSS Papoose. Either will do 45-70 leveraction Colt 6920 Ruger Hawkeye 30-06 or GSR Scout rifle, either works
This isnt a far fetched scenerio, Califronians are moving into my part of the world in droves and buying up everythjng as are the left coasties.
Custom Mark10 30-06 bolt action Win Model 1300 12 ga with 24" (3 chokes) and Slug barrel Ruger Single Six 5.5" .22LR/22Mag Ruger 10/22 .22LR Springfield 1945 M1 Garand......30-06, 12 gauge, 22/22mag....KISS principle
Left out some 30-30s and a Russian SKS, 9mm Maks which I have a lot of ammo and components for.
.22 long rifle ruger 10/22 .45 handgun. Glock 12 gauge semi auto or pump shotgun with barrels for small game and slugs. Remington 1100 or 1187 556 ar15 colt 3006 or 270 win bolt all weather scoped rifle. Probably a 700.
in an area with no Grizz. Which 5 would it be? Let's say it's bugout time and you get away from whatever it is with just the clothes on your back, but you've got a fully stocked cabin in the mountains and it's got the five guns you had the foresight to stash there along with a full supply of ammo. Possibilities are everything up to Griz and also self-defense.
I could get by with the first three easily but the fourth is mo-betta and the fifth really is just added to duplicate the Governor. Going to town and CCWing would be made easier by the fifth even though it's not a real CCW piece. If I could add one more it would be my Ruger MkIII 22 LR with a full bull barrel.
If it's truly "Bugout-Time" and you have chosen something other than 22lr and/or what might be carried by a member of the military or law enforcement you're a slack-jawed booger-eating moron.
Indeed I may be a slack-jawed, booger-eating moron and proud of it, I might add, but if you'll peruse the OP, it said you leave wherever you're at with only the clothes on your back and your guns are already stashed along with ammo, at your uber cabin in the woods.
I wasn't being critical of your choices, merely quoting the OP hoping folks might read it again before making their choices. While not as widely distributed as the 9MM, 45ACP is a reasonable expectation for at least some military/Law-enforcement making the "Tri-Fuel" Governor and the Gold Cup as viable as any other handgun.
I saw a someone picked an 1100, better have a lifetime supply of O-Rings and the ability to pein/stake the mag-retainer bars back in place.
The guy who picked 5 Win 21's, they're just 2-shot shotguns in a SHTF scenario. There is no "intrinsic value" left there.
22lr 223 308 7.62x39 9MM
Beyond those, you're going to have to re-supply from folks that have been in combat.
I would have my Marlin model 25 with a can Colt 6920 with a can Mossberg 20ga plus several chokes Ruger Security 6 in 357 Ruger guide gun in 308 plus a can In reality my enemy will be my resupply!
in an area with no Grizz. Which 5 would it be? Let's say it's bugout time and you get away from whatever it is with just the clothes on your back, but you've got a fully stocked cabin in the mountains and it's got the five guns you had the foresight to stash there along with a full supply of ammo. Possibilities are everything up to Griz and also self-defense.
I could get by with the first three easily but the fourth is mo-betta and the fifth really is just added to duplicate the Governor. Going to town and CCWing would be made easier by the fifth even though it's not a real CCW piece. If I could add one more it would be my Ruger MkIII 22 LR with a full bull barrel.
If it's truly "Bugout-Time" and you have chosen something other than 22lr and/or what might be carried by a member of the military or law enforcement you're a slack-jawed booger-eating moron.
Indeed I may be a slack-jawed, booger-eating moron and proud of it, I might add, but if you'll peruse the OP, it said you leave wherever you're at with only the clothes on your back and your guns are already stashed along with ammo, at your uber cabin in the woods.
I wasn't being critical of your choices, merely quoting the OP hoping folks might read it again before making their choices. While not as widely distributed as the 9MM, 45ACP is a reasonable expectation for at least some military/Law-enforcement making the "Tri-Fuel" Governor and the Gold Cup as viable as any other handgun.
I saw a someone picked an 1100, better have a lifetime supply of O-Rings and the ability to pein/stake the mag-retainer bars back in place.
The guy who picked 5 Win 21's, they're just 2-shot shotguns in a SHTF scenario. There is no "intrinsic value" left there.
22lr 223 308 7.62x39 9MM
Beyond those, you're going to have to re-supply from folks that have been in combat.
He may have been talking about Glock 21's. ??
I'd say you could trade a Glock 21 for just about anything you needed in a SHTF scenario.
5 guns! My peep sighted Savage .22 WMR/20 gauge M24DL with a bunch of 30-50 grain and slug and shot loads would be all I'd ever need. Isn't anything that I could shoot with a handgun that I couldn't shoot better with a rifle.
in an area with no Grizz. Which 5 would it be? Let's say it's bugout time and you get away from whatever it is with just the clothes on your back, but you've got a fully stocked cabin in the mountains and it's got the five guns you had the foresight to stash there along with a full supply of ammo. Possibilities are everything up to Griz and also self-defense.
I could get by with the first three easily but the fourth is mo-betta and the fifth really is just added to duplicate the Governor. Going to town and CCWing would be made easier by the fifth even though it's not a real CCW piece. If I could add one more it would be my Ruger MkIII 22 LR with a full bull barrel.
If it's truly "Bugout-Time" and you have chosen something other than 22lr and/or what might be carried by a member of the military or law enforcement you're a slack-jawed booger-eating moron.
Indeed I may be a slack-jawed, booger-eating moron and proud of it, I might add, but if you'll peruse the OP, it said you leave wherever you're at with only the clothes on your back and your guns are already stashed along with ammo, at your uber cabin in the woods.
I wasn't being critical of your choices, merely quoting the OP hoping folks might read it again before making their choices. While not as widely distributed as the 9MM, 45ACP is a reasonable expectation for at least some military/Law-enforcement making the "Tri-Fuel" Governor and the Gold Cup as viable as any other handgun.
I saw a someone picked an 1100, better have a lifetime supply of O-Rings and the ability to pein/stake the mag-retainer bars back in place.
The guy who picked 5 Win 21's, they're just 2-shot shotguns in a SHTF scenario. There is no "intrinsic value" left there.
22lr 223 308 7.62x39 9MM
Beyond those, you're going to have to re-supply from folks that have been in combat.
He may have been talking about Glock 21's. ??
I'd say you could trade a Glock 21 for just about anything you needed in a SHTF scenario.
Could be, didn't think of that. Glock 21 is probably worth more for bartering than a Win 21 in this scenario......
in an area with no Grizz. Which 5 would it be? Let's say it's bugout time and you get away from whatever it is with just the clothes on your back, but you've got a fully stocked cabin in the mountains and it's got the five guns you had the foresight to stash there along with a full supply of ammo. Possibilities are everything up to Griz and also self-defense.
I could get by with the first three easily but the fourth is mo-betta and the fifth really is just added to duplicate the Governor. Going to town and CCWing would be made easier by the fifth even though it's not a real CCW piece. If I could add one more it would be my Ruger MkIII 22 LR with a full bull barrel.
If it's truly "Bugout-Time" and you have chosen something other than 22lr and/or what might be carried by a member of the military or law enforcement you're a slack-jawed booger-eating moron.
Indeed I may be a slack-jawed, booger-eating moron and proud of it, I might add, but if you'll peruse the OP, it said you leave wherever you're at with only the clothes on your back and your guns are already stashed along with ammo, at your uber cabin in the woods.
I wasn't being critical of your choices, merely quoting the OP hoping folks might read it again before making their choices. While not as widely distributed as the 9MM, 45ACP is a reasonable expectation for at least some military/Law-enforcement making the "Tri-Fuel" Governor and the Gold Cup as viable as any other handgun.
I saw a someone picked an 1100, better have a lifetime supply of O-Rings and the ability to pein/stake the mag-retainer bars back in place.
The guy who picked 5 Win 21's, they're just 2-shot shotguns in a SHTF scenario. There is no "intrinsic value" left there.
22lr 223 308 7.62x39 9MM
Beyond those, you're going to have to re-supply from folks that have been in combat.
He may have been talking about Glock 21's. ??
I'd say you could trade a Glock 21 for just about anything you needed in a SHTF scenario.
Could be, didn't think of that. Glock 21 is probably worth more for bartering than a Win 21 in this scenario......
Win 21 not my cup of tea. Glock 21 would be one of the very last to leave my stable.
5 guns! My peep sighted Savage .22 WMR/20 gauge M24DL with a bunch of 30-50 grain and slug and shot loads would be all I'd ever need. Isn't anything that I could shoot with a handgun that I couldn't shoot better with a rifle.
How fast can you reload that one for a bear or human attack?
1) .22 hornet Anchutz bolt action low-power scope 2) .45 Acp 1911 Kimber with reflex sight 3) 12 g Browning A5 4) .308 bolt action HS Precision with 2 scopes (Pulsar and Z6 Swaro) 5) AR .223 scoped and with reflex on the side
Cabin with long sight lines AR-10 in .308, shorter sight lines and a need to move through trees AR-15 w/ .22 conversion Break-action 12ga with 16ga, 20ga,.410 tube sets 30 cal bolt gun probably a magnum caliber. .45 1911 9mm double stack gun.
Obviously presses, dies and components in the cabin armory.
5 guns! My peep sighted Savage .22 WMR/20 gauge M24DL with a bunch of 30-50 grain and slug and shot loads would be all I'd ever need. Isn't anything that I could shoot with a handgun that I couldn't shoot better with a rifle.
Wish id never sold mine. Got rid of it in favor of 22lr/410 one. The mag/20 was hell of a lot of gun
5 guns! My peep sighted Savage .22 WMR/20 gauge M24DL with a bunch of 30-50 grain and slug and shot loads would be all I'd ever need. Isn't anything that I could shoot with a handgun that I couldn't shoot better with a rifle.
Wish id never sold mine. Got rid of it in favor of 22lr/410 one. The mag/20 was hell of a lot of gun
Okay then, you guys have talked me into bringing along my Cajunized CZ 75D PCR belt gun too.
So does the Rem 870. Why pump when you can just pull a trigger? Help me understand.
Seriously??? We are talking about a scenario where parts are probably not gonna be available. I have 4 different 870's, ain't never fixed a thing on any of them, EVER.
So does the Rem 870. Why pump when you can just pull a trigger? Help me understand.
Seriously??? We are talking about a scenario where parts are probably not gonna be available. I have 4 different 870's, ain't never fixed a thing on any of them, EVER.
So does the Rem 870. Why pump when you can just pull a trigger? Help me understand.
Seriously??? We are talking about a scenario where parts are probably not gonna be available. I have 4 different 870's, ain't never fixed a thing on any of them, EVER.
Yeah I'm serious. I've got a Browing Gold that has never once even jammed, after 1000s of rounds.
Out of my current accumulation,and getting it down to 5 IS a task, so I’ll take redundancy/spares off the table:
1 a ruger 10/22 scoped (small game) 2 a Savage 99F in .358Win (big game) 3 a AR-15 16” bbl Colt (defense/yotes) 4 a REM 870 18.5” & 28” Bbls 12ga (defense/small game) 5 a Colt 1911 Gov. 45acp
I would miss my Glock 19, H&K VP9sk, and AR10s, but I could easily get by with the above firearms
The people have spoken, numbers wise the choices are;
870 AR Glock Bolt Action centerfire 10/22
I'm good with top 4, but the 10/22 confuses me a bit. I know it's popular, but we're talkin about moving to your bug out location because of serious events. A 22 rifle, an important firearm to have IMO. But my experience tells me the 10/22 cannot be dependable at times or with various ammo. Something better here?
A 22 rifle, an important firearm to have IMO. But my experience tells me the 10/22 cannot be dependable at times or with various ammo. Something better here?
A 22 rifle, an important firearm to have IMO. But my experience tells me the 10/22 cannot may not be dependable at times or with various ammo. Something better here?
IMO . . . . . . . .No
I would stay away from plastic actions/magazines of the non linear variety.. But of anything that you could cobble together, I figure a .22 would be the safest..based on the quantity of powder...
The people have spoken, numbers wise the choices are;
870 AR Glock Bolt Action centerfire 10/22
I'm good with top 4, but the 10/22 confuses me a bit. I know it's popular, but we're talkin about moving to your bug out location because of serious events. A 22 rifle, an important firearm to have IMO. But my experience tells me the 10/22 cannot be dependable at times or with various ammo. Something better here?
My experience with the 10-22 is not the same. I've owned a bunch of them and only had one that was not dependable. I think it's a solid choice,especially if you're going with a semi-auto. I don't think going with a semi-auto is necessary though, especially since there are other guns in play. IMO if you're talking only one gun, then a .22 might be the way to go and if that's the case, I think the semi-auto makes the best sense. Personally, I'd be comfortable with either a 94-22 or Marlin 39A or the like.
I think the 10-22 is the best semi-auto .22 commonly available. I'd be fine with a Marlin 795 or 60 or the like also, but honestly, I think the 10-22 is the better gun.
This is always a good exercise. My friends and I have done it a couple of times, but always with our own, presently owned guns. And I can never bring myself down to just 5...
But, here goes....
5. Because I'm forced into one handgun, a Glock 23.
If there were a good rimfire conversion for the Glock, I would replace the Ruger pistol with a good AR in .223
I have an Advantage Arms conversion for my Glock 26/27 (It works with both) I got both the short and extended magazines. I really like the adjustable sights. It is accurate enough that I find I benefit from them.
I recommend it with the caveat that it needs cleaned more often than the centerfire setups.
I imagine a shorter barreled hunting shotgun serving as a self defense or battle shotgun better than a full blown riot shotgun serving as a hunting gun. Is this a valid thought?
Does it matter? Depends on how big the battle is or how bad 'ya need food I guess.
If an AR is included in the 5, is a riot shotgun needed?
Not preaching, nothing absolute, just running scenarios.
I imagine a shorter barreled hunting shotgun serving as a self defense or battle shotgun better than a full blown riot shotgun serving as a hunting gun. Is this a valid thought?
Does it matter? Depends on how big the battle is or how bad 'ya need food I guess.
If an AR is included in the 5, is a riot shotgun needed?
Not preaching, nothing absolute, just running scenarios.
Do extra barrels count? They are not registered.... Extra uppers on an AR platform? Likewise.. Pistol .22 conversions. Again...
I can see that, but threads like this are fairly common and do pop up all the time.
I think that a lot of shooters are "addicted" to owning more guns more than actually using those guns. We just like to accumulate through building, buying, trading. We (myself incl) buy more all the time but end up just using the same ones over and over. I try to keep my numbers fairly low but have been upgrading instead. I still have a couple very nice sporting rifles, I've never hunted with.
Deep down, we all know we'd be better off just owning a 1/2 dozen or so good/quality firearms and getting good with them, thus the reason these threads keep popping up.
I can see that, but threads like this are fairly common and do pop up all the time.
I think that a lot of shooters are "addicted" to owning more guns more than actually using those guns. We just like to accumulate through building, buying, trading. We (myself incl) buy more all the time but end up just using the same ones over and over. I try to keep my numbers fairly low but have been upgrading instead. I still have a couple very nice sporting rifles, I've never hunted with.
Deep down, we all know we'd be better off just owning a 1/2 dozen or so good/quality firearms and getting good with them, thus the reason these threads keep popping up.
Your point is well taken, especially the part about these threads being fun. At the same time I'd say they all carry an anxiety with them that at some point through whatever means, you would actually be limited to 5. I'm not trying to cause anxiety.
The OP intends to make somebody think about firearms they might leave at some remote locale in case they made it there in some dire situation, without any or many guns on their person, in their vehicle, etc. In fact, I implied you had nothing gun-wise, with you.
In my own imaginings of this scenario, I'd not want to leave my best guns at a remote cabin, even with the best security. Part of that isn't a fear of losing them, but a fear of not using them when I wanted them. ...say if your cabin was a hundred or more miles away and not something you could visit, easily and at will.
For instance, if I've got several AR's including maybe my original SP1 and a 6920, but I've also got a DPMS and/or S&W M&P15...I'm taking one of the latter two to leave at the cabin. In my mind, perfectly serviceable AR's, but maybe I've got a couple I prefer. God forbid I lose all my other guns or even my two best AR's...but either of the lower budget ones will work if I do.
Then again, some may want the absolute best at the cabin. Maybe they're rich but for some reason only want to leave 5 guns at their retreat...but those five guns are going to be THE BEST they can get.
Like the college prof said, there are no wrong answers.
I can see that, but threads like this are fairly common and do pop up all the time.
I think that a lot of shooters are "addicted" to owning more guns more than actually using those guns. We just like to accumulate through building, buying, trading. We (myself incl) buy more all the time but end up just using the same ones over and over. I try to keep my numbers fairly low but have been upgrading instead. I still have a couple very nice sporting rifles, I've never hunted with.
Deep down, we all know we'd be better off just owning a 1/2 dozen or so good/quality firearms and getting good with them, thus the reason these threads keep popping up.
Your point is well taken, especially the part about these threads being fun. At the same time I'd say they all carry an anxiety with them that at some point through whatever means, you would actually be limited to 5. I'm not trying to cause anxiety.
The OP intends to make somebody think about firearms they might leave at some remote locale in case they made it there in some dire situation, without any or many guns on their person, in their vehicle, etc. In fact, I implied you had nothing gun-wise, with you.
In my own imaginings of this scenario, I'd not want to leave my best guns at a remote cabin, even with the best security. Part of that isn't a fear of losing them, but a fear of not using them when I wanted them. ...say if your cabin was a hundred or more miles away and not something you could visit, easily and at will.
For instance, if I've got several AR's including maybe my original SP1 and a 6920, but I've also got a DPMS and/or S&W M&P15...I'm taking one of the latter two to leave at the cabin. In my mind, perfectly serviceable AR's, but maybe I've got a couple I prefer. God forbid I lose all my other guns or even my two best AR's...but either of the lower budget ones will work if I do.
Then again, some may want the absolute best at the cabin. Maybe they're rich but for some reason only want to leave 5 guns at their retreat...but those five guns are going to be THE BEST they can get.
Like the college prof said, there are no wrong answers.
...you know, unless somebody disagrees with me.
I hadn't thought about it in that sense. You make a very good there about the possibility of enforced allowable numbers of gun owned.
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