I've always wondered if the DNA testing sites, like '23 and Me' or 'Ancestry.com' and there are several others, were private. Well, I got my answer today.

The link below is an article about a Washington woman that has been missing for 40 years. The authorities used DNA and cross referenced it with DNA from commercial sites to identify the woman's remains.

So, not only do you get your results from your DNA tests, so do the feds. Now I figure that just being on the campfire is enough for the feds to keep an eye on me/us, but voluntarily giving them my DNA is not my cup of tea.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/spokane-woman-missing-nearly-40-020200928.html

I work for the lab that runs the assay for one of the top players in DNA testing.

Trust me when I say that nothing about genetic testing is private. You put your genome in the public arena when you are tested and it stays there for ever.

Actually it could have a up side, sorta like chipping your dog.

After we all grow old and feeble and get hard of hearing and decide to take a walk, if some cop a half a block away screams 'drop the cane and eat dirt' and we refuse, because we can't fckin hear him..

They can sop up some of your blood from the street after they gun you down and be able to find out who you belonged to.

We had ours done. I was supposed to have American Indian in me, nope, English, Scandinavian, 6% Italian, and 1% Chinese.
Wifey is the same, except 6% Middle Eastern. She found out she is 3rd or 4th cousins to Rhett Akins from her Dad’s side.

They have caught a few criminals that were floating underground through their kin that had the DNA testing done. I don’t break the law, so I’m not worried about the government having mine.

One of the founders and current CEO of 23andMe is Anne Wojcicki, who is a Jew.

A universal truth about Jews is that if you give them the opportunity, they will Jew you. So you have to deny them those opportunities if you want to avoid that certain outcome.

Hanco,

You’ve already broke the law. You are white!!!

A white man from Texas no less. Gotta be a supremacist.

Micheal Connolly’s novel “Fair Warning” from last year explored some of the issues around data in the testing industry. Hint: they aren’t making their money on the $20 they charge you.

Like with Facebook, if you aren’t the customer, you are the product.

As for the native American DNA...i have 100 percent proof I am 1/8 Sioux and the ancestry test came back not mentioning that. I did a little digging and it seems the tribes told them no way when it came to giving them samples to use.

So it sounds like their tests are not as accurate as they want us to think. It's only as accurate as the data they have to work with like any other piece of science.

Its a database.....and people are dumb enough to pay to use it.

You've been trained well.

I'll take words that tyrants love for $1000 Alex...

What's the problem if you're DNA is known to other's?...
20+ yrs ago, without thinking, I gave a sample for an insurance policy, would like to walk that back.

It could be used for good if they can identify unsolved cases, victim's and perp's can be identified.

Why in the fug would anyone need or want your DNA, is the question!

It’s not that their tests aren’t accurate, it has to do with them not exactly reporting the complete story. Had a bit of a conversation with archaeologist son on this very subject. He occasionally gets involved in a bunch of DNA work thru his employment.
He said something like that a bunch of folks are doing the test specifically to see if they have any NA DNA. As we was a bit of drinking involved during this discussion I will try to explain the best I remember. He stated that if the numbers are low, as would be the case in many circumstances, they go unreported. So unless it is quite obvious that you have NA DNA, they are more or less, adhering to an agenda.

I know that my good childhood bud (now deceased), stated that his results showed small “Mongolian” traces. So that may be one method of Skirting the issue.

Also there is always the possibility that being so miniscule and watered down, the NA DNA was simply not passed to a person.

Son went on to say this was a method to keep caucasians from claiming NA descent. He also said you can asked to have it checked and some companies will come clean and give you nimbers.

Now I may be totally full of schidt. And admit it. But something along these lines is the best way I remember the conversation. He’s is convinced that any NA traces our family may have are just not there. Despite the same old family stories. But he went on to state that did not mean they weren't there in past great grandparents etc

Like I said, this is the best I remember. Anyone else heard any of this???

I paid a hundred bucks to get on to 23andme.com Well worth it.

What I like the most is I found out that I have more Neanderthal DNA than 96 percent of the population.

I agree. A useful tool is turned against the innocent and used as a weapon, I fear the company/government in its abuse and privacy issues.

Same thing happened at work with GPS on company vehicles. Useful for dispatching, but some managers were glued to the computer screen looking for route violations when a guy needed a bathroom break.

Ancestry admitted it in fine print on their site when I did some digging. In my case my grandmothers mother was 1/2 sioux and we have relics and other proof of this. So in my case I didn't take the test to find that out. I was trying to trace mom's side.

Kinda stupid that they even manipulate who you are.

Government wants to database as much DNA as possible.

Volunteers help.

Does anyone honestly believe politicians are heart-broken over C19 wiping out certain low-income nursing homes?

Suppose these politicians have a way to determine who is predisposed to the most costly long term elderly care.

Financial class, as well, in determination.

Some folks just don't deserve a long life.

Think Barack and Obamacare.....giving granny a pain pill instead of a new hip.......then sending her out on the ice to fetch the mail.

The Germans were obsessed with knowing your ancestry and genetics to keep the race "pure". All the DNA stuff could be very dangerous in the wrong hands.

They used to plant a weapon as evidence at a crime scene to frame the innocent. Now the unscrupulous need only a sample of your DNA. Scary.

Have a good bud who is the cultural resource officer for the Oklahoma Seminole Nation. He said several years ago the feds did some financial settlements with the Oklahoma Seminoles. $$$$$. He went on to say you should have see who came out of the woodworks claiming membership. And they weren’t caucasian.

Now He went on to say that there were a few legit claims. But on the whole most were there for da money they thought they would get.

Exactly the same for the Indian Casinos in Louisiana.

Never knew that we had so many native Americans in Louisiana.

Regarding indian nation's of North America....last time I checked they are not all of the same DNA, very interesting.

Mine was 23% NA, my wife 54%.

I wonder which is the best place to go for a legitimate DNA inquiry?

DNA doesn't get passed on in direct proportion to your ancestry, in other words if one of your 8 great grandparents was 100% Sioux, that doesn't mean that 1/8 of your DNA would be Sioux. I have distant ancestors from the Delaware tribe but no DNA from that line, while one of my sisters does have DNA from them. Actual inherited DNA is pretty random and siblings will often have quite a different mix of DNA.

China will be trying to steal it from Olympic competitors. Think genetic engineering, and bio weapons.

Absolutely. I was being somewhat facetious.

Nowhere.

Uhhh, no.

Think finding you more easily.

14 states mandate DNA collection for all felony arrests.

9 for misdemeanors.

100% of illegal aliens are swabbed.

The right tends to be as excited about it as the left.

Certainly explains the house full of kids and a pet fox.

Found out I belong to the Fugowee tribe.

Wouldn't surprise me to someday learn that .gov has been secretly funding these sites all along.

My DNA was taken about 20 years ago by the po-po.

I've no doubt it'll reside in the database long after I'm gone.

can you buy samples of other people's DNA?

(asking for a friend)

Some of y'all boys are a little paranoid. I joined 23andme.com five years ago and never gave it a second thought.

I wonder how long y'all give me, until the FBI and the CIA kick down my door.

An extensive DNA database would be a treasure trove of info to insurance companies, employers and marketers. Actually, the possibilities are endless. Compared to these people, government folks are rank amateurs.

Ancestery.com solved a long time family legend for us. It was believed that we had either some Cherokee or Freedman Cherokee in the family. Neither showed up.

Folks have long signed up at grocery stores for "member discounts".

They can track what you purchase. Always figured insurance companies would be interested in folks diets and alcohol/tobacco habits.

Never would have caught the Golden State Killer before he died.

Markers in your DNA for many hereditary issues are already known. I see a time when insurance companies will raise your rates or deny coverage regardless of any symptoms or actual sickness.

Wife's Granny was half blood Cherokee, born and raised on the reservation.

Makes the wife 1/8 Cherokee.

Her sister, always one to do whatever she hears the yuppies are doing, and trying to be one of the cool kids, sent in a DNA sample.

Her results came back @ about 3% NA.

But it is common knowledge that the NA DNA of the Cherokee Nation had been diluted over a couple of centuries before they hit the Trail of Tears.

Those blue eyes did not come across the Bering Strait.

Yes, you are right, that psycho murdered 11 people and he raped about 40 women. And, he was a cop at the time! They caught him because some of his 3rd cousins put their DNA on 23andme.com
Forty years had passed since his last crime, talk about a cold case, and they never would have caught him without the DNA.
I never raped or murdered anyone so I am not worried but if there is a psycho in my family and my dna helps catch him, that would be just fine with me.

You forgot to mention you have no problem kneeling before your rulers.

Haahaha! Naivete.

That's analogous to stating, I don't break the law,so I'm not worried about gun registration.

Read this before you put much faith in the pay-n-play DNA test....

https://www.healthyway.com/content/...ked-to-learn-that-their-dna-didnt-match/

I know the story well. He struck in our neighborhood in Stockton Ca. and in Rancho Cordova a couple houses down from my Aunt and Uncle's home. Couple years apart in the mid to late 70's.

The "rulers" didn't order me to join 23andme.com It was completely voluntary, and I have not regretted it and would do it again. It is surprising to me the way guys on this forum can take an innocuous activity and find something negative about it. Happens on just about every thread. Y'all negative and paranoid boys need to remember the song, it was written for guys like you...

"Paranoia strikes deep
In to your lives it will creep
Starts when you're always afraid
Step out of line, the man comes, and takes you away..."

Obviously.......the COVID sham and the ‘irregularities’ of the last election has taught you nothing.