IMHO Trump should be kingmaker. He’ll be old by the time of the next election and I wouldn’t want another four years of endless attacks from the left.
The part about election reform is true though. If we don’t fix the mail in balloting and other ripe for fraud voting practices there’s no way we’ll ever have another non-deep state president. The democrats/deep state are in control virtually everywhere so the chances of cleaning up these crooked elections is virtually nil. You’d have about as much luck getting free elections in China.
Technical question: one is limited to two terms as president, but is there any limit to the number of times one can be VP?
Yes. If one is not qualified to be President, one is not eligible to be VP. So, if someone is elected twice, or serves 10 years (1/2 a predecessors term) that person is ineligible for VP.
Crow hunter: I literally burst out laughing at your posting! As naive and unrealistic as it is - it still struck me as funny! Do YOU really think the "American" press/media would NOT attack ANY Republican President "relentlessly for four years"? If you do believe that then your naivete has reached the ludicrous/absurd level! Sheesh. It would serve you well to pay a bit more attention to what the media/press has been doing for the last 50 years and continues doing to this day (and for sure into the foreseeable future!). Your posting deserves a well earned "double sheesh" so here goes number two SHEESH. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
Crow hunter: I literally burst out laughing at your posting! As naive and unrealistic as it is - it still struck me as funny! Do YOU really think the "American" press/media would NOT attack ANY Republican President "relentlessly for four years"? If you do believe that then your naivete has reached the ludicrous/absurd level! Sheesh. It would serve you well to pay a bit more attention to what the media/press has been doing for the last 50 years and continues doing to this day (and for sure into the foreseeable future!). Your posting deserves a well earned "double sheesh" so here goes number two SHEESH. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
.......................Yeah! It will not matter who the GOP POTUS is....The demCRAP party and their LYING, DECEIVING and HYPOCRITE lap dog news media propagandists will LIE, distort, make up false stories and relentlessly go after ANY GOP president...............Sorry Crow Hunter..........Ya think if Trump isn't POTUS that the media will take a rest from their endless attacks?.....LOL
Trump was the messenger, not the messiah. He should be the elder statesman of the party, not the candidate. That said, his ego will probably make him want to run again and try to get the second term he was denied.
Trump for pres, retires after 2 years, Desantis finishes term and can still run 2 more times. That might be enough to fix some of this crap but without a decent congress we will always be screwed.
Not a chance in hell Trump would accept being second banana and taking the traditional "stay in the background until called" role of a VP...
I'm a big Trump fan, but I'm hoping DeSantis or one of the several great candidates on the republican side jump into the fray. For all the good things Trump does for this country, he is so divisive with his rhetoric it almost cancels all that out... A lot of ardent conservatives I know can't stand Trump because he just can't shut up when he should....
Not a chance in hell Trump would accept being second banana and taking the traditional "stay in the background until called" role of a VP...
I'm a big Trump fan, but I'm hoping DeSantis or one of the several great candidates on the republican side jump into the fray. For all the good things Trump does for this country, he is so divisive with his rhetoric it almost cancels all that out... A lot of ardent conservatives I know can't stand Trump because he just can't shut up when he should....
And the dumbphucks cut off their nose to spite their face.
it's always a crap shoot. I would not really want Trump back as President unless he agreed in advance to let someone else pick the cabinet and other positions. He had a real history of screwups with regards to picking his team. Even his Supreme Court picks suck.
If "ardent conservatives" won't support someone whose soundbite bothers them but the policy is right/good - then they're idiots and unworthy of calling themselves intelligent.
Not a chance in hell Trump would accept being second banana and taking the traditional "stay in the background until called" role of a VP...
I'm a big Trump fan, but I'm hoping DeSantis or one of the several great candidates on the republican side jump into the fray. For all the good things Trump does for this country, he is so divisive with his rhetoric it almost cancels all that out... A lot of ardent conservatives I know can't stand Trump because he just can't shut up when he should....
And the dumbphucks cut off their nose to spite their face.
No sheit. I guess those 'supposed conservatives' don't notice the demoncraps and their divisive rhetoric.
We know what America First looks like, however, we don't need Trump to pursue it. Whatever. Things are going to be so fuucked up by 2024, I figure it matters not. Baah humbug
If "ardent conservatives" won't support someone whose soundbite bothers them but the policy is right/good - then they're idiots and unworthy of calling themselves intelligent.
And that is the kind of attitude that lets the democrats win an apparently illegal election. If staunch conservatives will vote for Trump - as most did- but don't agree with his rhetoric or style it is only a matter of time before these same people start looking around... Trump does a lot of things well and loves this country- that is without a doubt true.... but he also made lousy choices for his cabinet, over and over, he alienated a portion of his supporters due to his style, his advisors were questionable and lacked the political experience needed to understand their recommendations, and he fought with the republican party and his supporters on capitol hill when he would have been better served to compromise- at least with his own party... all this points out his lack of experience in politics, which is a dark and evil enterprise at the best of times....
The ongoing questions concerning the election might be Trump's biggest contribution to this country. Even if they don't uncover enough corruption for him to be seated in the White House again he has brought sufficient attention to the irregularities in the election that it will be difficult for a party or group to pull these shenanigans again without much more severe scrutiny and consequences....
If "ardent conservatives" won't support someone whose soundbite bothers them but the policy is right/good - then they're idiots and unworthy of calling themselves intelligent.
If "ardent conservatives" won't support someone whose soundbite bothers them but the policy is right/good - then they're idiots and unworthy of calling themselves intelligent.
This is the truth no matter how you slice it
Agreed, but you don't need Trump to get good policy- there are others who will come forward that will have a better handle on policy and also understand how to get their vision through without throwing the entire country into turmoil...DeSantis would be one but there are several other Republicans who are capable of showing great leadership IMO...
If "ardent conservatives" won't support someone whose soundbite bothers them but the policy is right/good - then they're idiots and unworthy of calling themselves intelligent.
And that is the kind of attitude that lets the democrats win an apparently illegal election. If staunch conservatives will vote for Trump - as most did- but don't agree with his rhetoric or style it is only a matter of time before these same people start looking around... Trump does a lot of things well and loves this country- that is without a doubt true.... but he also made lousy choices for his cabinet, over and over, he alienated a portion of his supporters due to his style, his advisors were questionable and lacked the political experience needed to understand their recommendations, and he fought with the republican party and his supporters on capitol hill when he would have been better served to compromise- at least with his own party... all this points out his lack of experience in politics, which is a dark and evil enterprise at the best of times....
The ongoing questions concerning the election might be Trump's biggest contribution to this country. Even if they don't uncover enough corruption for him to be seated in the White House again he has brought sufficient attention to the irregularities in the election that it will be difficult for a party or group to pull these shenanigans again without much more severe scrutiny and consequences....
A big part of the issue is not necessarily the "staunch conservative" vote.
It's the ones leaning left, especially on fiscal and patriotic terms, those that are close to the center that don't want to vote for someone who is a Type A+++ personality, that sometimes has a tendency to come off as an azzhole. No matter how good his policy decisions are for the country, they just have a reluctance to vote for that type of person.
If one looks at the population in terms of the bell curve model, the numbers of "ardent or staunch" conservative voters are likely out closer to the thin end of the curve on the "right" than towards the center. The same goes for the "ultra progressive/Communist/ way past Bernie Socialists".
Trump won that group sitting just to the right of center in his first election for sure, and likely pulled some from just left of center of the curve too, due to their desire to have the Country change course economically, if not agreeing with the social agenda of the "Right".
In this most recent Presidential election, who the heck knows what kind of numbers voted and for whom?
Crow hunter: I literally burst out laughing at your posting! As naive and unrealistic as it is - it still struck me as funny! Do YOU really think the "American" press/media would NOT attack ANY Republican President "relentlessly for four years"? If you do believe that then your naivete has reached the ludicrous/absurd level! Sheesh. It would serve you well to pay a bit more attention to what the media/press has been doing for the last 50 years and continues doing to this day (and for sure into the foreseeable future!). Your posting deserves a well earned "double sheesh" so here goes number two SHEESH. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
JFC you’re a retard if you read my post and got that from it. You need to sit through grade school English again and learn reading comprehension.
If "ardent conservatives" won't support someone whose soundbite bothers them but the policy is right/good - then they're idiots and unworthy of calling themselves intelligent.
This is the truth no matter how you slice it
Agreed, but you don't need Trump to get good policy- there are others who will come forward that will have a better handle on policy and also understand how to get their vision through without throwing the entire country into turmoil...DeSantis would be one but there are several other Republicans who are capable of showing great leadership IMO...
Prior to Trump - there wasn't any good policy - save perhaps Rand/Ron Paul at times. DeSantis is there because he's following Trump's policy/thought not the other way around.
Trump for pres, retires after 2 years, Desantis finishes term and can still run 2 more times. That might be enough to fix some of this crap but without a decent congress we will always be screwed.
Chuck
Republicans ain’t the the balls or the guts to fight this hard.
Crow hunter: I literally burst out laughing at your posting! As naive and unrealistic as it is - it still struck me as funny! Do YOU really think the "American" press/media would NOT attack ANY Republican President "relentlessly for four years"? If you do believe that then your naivete has reached the ludicrous/absurd level! Sheesh. It would serve you well to pay a bit more attention to what the media/press has been doing for the last 50 years and continues doing to this day (and for sure into the foreseeable future!). Your posting deserves a well earned "double sheesh" so here goes number two SHEESH. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy
Just so you know
You are the laughing stock of this forum. All the way back to Day One
If Trump is on the ticket, it's 2020 all over again. I want him active in the party, but not running for office.
So your believe there would be no election fraud if Trump is not on the ticket?
No I do not believe that, but I believe anyone but Trump would keep a lot of the unhinged resistance on the sideline.
Anyone who threatens the establishment will have the unhinged resistance unleashed on them. The only reason they went after Trump like they did is because he was a legitimate threat to the status quo.
it's always a crap shoot. I would not really want Trump back as President unless he agreed in advance to let someone else pick the cabinet and other positions. He had a real history of screwups with regards to picking his team. Even his Supreme Court picks suck.
IMHO, that was unfortunately the biggest downside of his presidency.
The democrats cheated and stole the 2020 election. The democrats all used fraud to win the election. They used vote swapping voter machines, counting machines which swapped votes, mail in voting, ballot harvesting, illegals voting, and dead people voting. The voting numbers were adjusted by overseas parties and by democrats in the states. They certified fraudulent voter tallies in the US congress. This voter fraud occurred in every state. Our voting system is still rigged and will remain rigged. Dominion and the Deep State will “Select “ our Presidents from this day forward. So what makes anyone think the republicans have a chance of ever being elected in 2022 or 2024?
As a ps: we know some republicans use voter fraud too. And they are as guilty as the democrats. Pence is a massive traitor to the American people.
Pissing in the wind, if election fraud is not fixed.
I keep thinking maybe our trusty Repubs will have an "ace up their sleeve" when it come to fraud in the next election. As in they are ready for the fraud and it will be exposed and defeated.
I often overestimate the intestinal fortitude of our trusty Repub leadership though.
Pissing in the wind, if election fraud is not fixed.
I keep thinking maybe our trusty Repubs will have an "ace up their sleeve" when it come to fraud in the next election. As in they are ready for the fraud and it will be exposed and defeated.
I often overestimate the intestinal fortitude of our trusty Repub leadership though.
Election fraud wasn't new the last go around - been there a long time. If they didn't stop it in 2020, I have no reason to believe they'll stop it 2024
Several months now since the election, and not a single scintilla of evidence of widespread voter fraud from a credible source (sorry, "Epoch Times," "Gateway Pundit," and a crazy pillow salesman) don't count. A multinational conspiracy involving hundreds of elected officials (many Republican), compromised Judges, tampered election devices, and coordinated movements. And. Nothing. Quit spending every waking hour in front of a keyboard hammering out dozens of silly posts per day. Get out. Take a walk. Reconnect with family and friends. Quit being a stooge. You're a Conservative? Great, we need a balance to leftist overreach. Just come back to reality and realize Trump lost because he's an incompetent narcissist with the attention span of a goldfish.
Several months now since the election, and not a single scintilla of evidence of widespread voter fraud from a credible source (sorry, "Epoch Times," "Gateway Pundit," and a crazy pillow salesman) don't count. A multinational conspiracy involving hundreds of elected officials (many Republican), compromised Judges, tampered election devices, and coordinated movements. And. Nothing. Quit spending every waking hour in front of a keyboard hammering out dozens of silly posts per day. Get out. Take a walk. Reconnect with family and friends. Quit being a stooge. You're a Conservative? Great, we need a balance to leftist overreach. Just come back to reality and realize Trump lost because he's an incompetent narcissist with the attention span of a goldfish.
Which 'credible source' was that?
"Trump lost because he's an incompetent narcissist with the attention span of a goldfish" How was that economy during his term? War, how many wars? Was Russia F'kn with us[like they are now]? Was China backpeddling?
Several months now since the election, and not a single scintilla of evidence of widespread voter fraud from a credible source (sorry, "Epoch Times," "Gateway Pundit," and a crazy pillow salesman) don't count. A multinational conspiracy involving hundreds of elected officials (many Republican), compromised Judges, tampered election devices, and coordinated movements. And. Nothing. Quit spending every waking hour in front of a keyboard hammering out dozens of silly posts per day. Get out. Take a walk. Reconnect with family and friends. Quit being a stooge. You're a Conservative? Great, we need a balance to leftist overreach. Just come back to reality and realize Trump lost because he's an incompetent narcissist with the attention span of a goldfish.
I'm very curious as well, can you give me a good example of a credible source? In particular, a credible source for questions regarding 2020 election fraud. I'm all ears.
A few more questions for you Eric: Why does widespread fraud matter? Elections in the USA are such that fraud doesn't need to be very widespread to have a large impact.
Also, what might constitute evidence? I'm told there's no evidence, but nobody has described what "real" evidence actually would look like.
Several months now since the election, and not a single scintilla of evidence of widespread voter fraud from a credible source.
You obviously didn’t watch the AZ Senate Hearing on the Maricopa county audit.
If you had you would have seen plenty of “evidence “ of widespread election fraud.
What you would have also noticed, is not a single report or comment by the Senate, the Auditors or anyone involved in the audit claiming that these “irregularities” , extra ballets, duplicate ballots, fraudulent ballots, etc. we’re all cast for Biden.
You just assume that the fraud favored Biden, because You Know it’s True.
Pissing in the wind, if election fraud is not fixed.
I keep thinking maybe our trusty Repubs will have an "ace up their sleeve" when it come to fraud in the next election. As in they are ready for the fraud and it will be exposed and defeated.
I often overestimate the intestinal fortitude of our trusty Repub leadership though.
Election fraud wasn't new the last go around - been there a long time. If they didn't stop it in 2020, I have no reason to believe they'll stop it 2024
I've read election fraud was full blown active in 2016 but Trump won by such an unexpected /overwhelming margin over Hildabeast that it couldn't be fixed. The 4am vote insertions.
this 2020 election is a disgrace to American freedom ,we can`t wait till 2024 just look what Biden/Harris team and liberals have ruined in 6 months in America ? no we can`t do the blind eye thing wake up Trump won that election somehow we need it to change . Trump needs to be put back in as President and these liberal criminals need to be charge with treason , convicted and military law is then used > period.
this 2020 election is a disgrace to American freedom ,we can`t wait till 2024 just look what Biden/Harris team and liberals have ruined in 6 months in America ? no we can`t do the blind eye thing wake up Trump won that election somehow we need it to change . Trump needs to be put back in as President and these liberal criminals need to be charge with treason , convicted and military law is then used > period.
Several months now since the election, and not a single scintilla of evidence of widespread voter fraud from a credible source (sorry, "Epoch Times," "Gateway Pundit," and a crazy pillow salesman) don't count. A multinational conspiracy involving hundreds of elected officials (many Republican), compromised Judges, tampered election devices, and coordinated movements. And. Nothing. Quit spending every waking hour in front of a keyboard hammering out dozens of silly posts per day. Get out. Take a walk. Reconnect with family and friends. Quit being a stooge. You're a Conservative? Great, we need a balance to leftist overreach. Just come back to reality and realize Trump lost because he's an incompetent narcissist with the attention span of a goldfish.
Radical claims demand radical evidence and so far, while there are several cases of fraud, none are sufficient to affect the outcome in a single state.
If the Trump team has any evidence they should stop whining and publish a book about it or something.
Trump accomplished a lot but lost from self forced errors. Why pick fights with McCain or Romney? Why bitch about Sessions for a year instead of quietly letting him go? Why fight with Schwarzenegger about who was the best TV host? And why these stupid Tweets that caused many of his supporters to groan? And where was Reagan’s sense of humor?
I think he’s done now. He needs to get with the program or at least stop giving fuel to the Democrats.
I would love to see DeSantis as President. I do not know if he can get by the Rinos at the primaries. Trump did, but then they were trying to give the Whitehouse to Hillary.
But Trump as Vice-President? Not ever gonna happen. Trump is an all or nothing kind of man. The only way that ticket could come to pass would be if DeSantis promised to retire in six months and give up the job.
Thanks for the first link, I read it. It appears that some election experts said there's nothing wrong here. Let's all go home now, nothing to see here. Good job Eric, thanks for the factcheck. It's so nice to have such unbiased and reliable sources to factcheck everything these days.
Several months now since the election, and not a single scintilla of evidence of widespread voter fraud from a credible source (sorry, "Epoch Times," "Gateway Pundit," and a crazy pillow salesman) don't count. A multinational conspiracy involving hundreds of elected officials (many Republican), compromised Judges, tampered election devices, and coordinated movements. And. Nothing. Quit spending every waking hour in front of a keyboard hammering out dozens of silly posts per day. Get out. Take a walk. Reconnect with family and friends. Quit being a stooge. You're a Conservative? Great, we need a balance to leftist overreach. Just come back to reality and realize Trump lost because he's an incompetent narcissist with the attention span of a goldfish.
Radical claims demand radical evidence and so far, while there are several cases of fraud, none are sufficient to affect the outcome in a single state.
If the Trump team has any evidence they should stop whining and publish a book about it or something.
Trump accomplished a lot but lost from self forced errors. Why pick fights with McCain or Romney? Why bitch about Sessions for a year instead of quietly letting him go? Why fight with Schwarzenegger about who was the best TV host? And why these stupid Tweets that caused many of his supporters to groan? And where was Reagan’s sense of humor?
I think he’s done now. He needs to get with the program or at least stop giving fuel to the Democrats.
"Get with the program" Indy? What program? The one where the bulk of the Republicans screw America over, because they don't like Trump?
I can't say what anyone other than myself would think but Trump not willing to be the VP has nothing to do with the ego you speak of. For me as a Trump supporter I expect him to be at the top office and to be the leader. There are many that feel that way and he knows it. If he runs again it will be because of his supporters and a desire to fix what's been destroyed.
Several months now since the election, and not a single scintilla of evidence of widespread voter fraud from a credible source (sorry, "Epoch Times," "Gateway Pundit," and a crazy pillow salesman) don't count. A multinational conspiracy involving hundreds of elected officials (many Republican), compromised Judges, tampered election devices, and coordinated movements. And. Nothing. Quit spending every waking hour in front of a keyboard hammering out dozens of silly posts per day. Get out. Take a walk. Reconnect with family and friends. Quit being a stooge. You're a Conservative? Great, we need a balance to leftist overreach. Just come back to reality and realize Trump lost because he's an incompetent narcissist with the attention span of a goldfish.
Radical claims demand radical evidence and so far, while there are several cases of fraud, none are sufficient to affect the outcome in a single state.
If the Trump team has any evidence they should stop whining and publish a book about it or something.
Trump accomplished a lot but lost from self forced errors. Why pick fights with McCain or Romney? Why bitch about Sessions for a year instead of quietly letting him go? Why fight with Schwarzenegger about who was the best TV host? And why these stupid Tweets that caused many of his supporters to groan? And where was Reagan’s sense of humor?
I think he’s done now. He needs to get with the program or at least stop giving fuel to the Democrats.
"Get with the program" Indy? What program? The one where the bulk of the Republicans screw America over, because they don't like Trump?
The program where we sit by like neutered cucks and let our enemies destroy the country. That's what he's advocating. NOBODY else had the stones to call out Romney or McShidtstain. We need Trump, or someone very much like him to do what is possible to correct the direction of the country.
I can't say what anyone other than myself would think but Trump not willing to be the VP has nothing to do with the ego you speak of. For me as a Trump supporter I expect him to be at the top office and to be the leader. There are many that feel that way and he knows it. If he runs again it will be because of his supporters and a desire to fix what's been destroyed.
+1.
For the poop slingers, name a former president who would humble themselves to run as a VP.
Several months now since the election, and not a single scintilla of evidence of widespread voter fraud from a credible source (sorry, "Epoch Times," "Gateway Pundit," and a crazy pillow salesman) don't count. A multinational conspiracy involving hundreds of elected officials (many Republican), compromised Judges, tampered election devices, and coordinated movements. And. Nothing. Quit spending every waking hour in front of a keyboard hammering out dozens of silly posts per day. Get out. Take a walk. Reconnect with family and friends. Quit being a stooge. You're a Conservative? Great, we need a balance to leftist overreach. Just come back to reality and realize Trump lost because he's an incompetent narcissist with the attention span of a goldfish.
Had you on ignore but didn't remember why so I toggled.
Yep, your dumb liberal azz deserves to be on ignore.