Wait. So you post that the Beatles are the greatest rock group ever formed, then start putting up videos of not the Beatles playing music?
Seems more like you're saying the Beatles happened to put out some of the greatest songs, but other people did those songs better. At last from my vantage point.
Love the Beatles, Stones, Led Zep, The Who, and lots more great rock bands.
Me too. They all looked up to John, Paul, George and Ringo.
Without the Beatles, and Brian Epstein's management for the first half of their career, there would have been no British invasion, and none of those other bands would likely have made a world wide splash.
Never has there been a band like the Beatles. You can like others more, but none can compare. No band was as influential and changed the music industry like the Beatles.
They formed in 1960, disbanded in 1970, a period of only 10 years, and still have outsold any other rock or pop band. They only toured from 1964-1966. Compare that to The Rolling Stones or any other band that has been together for decades.
Like them or hate them, no one comes close to the music they wrote and played .
Say what you want about them or their politics etc. Talent the level of Lennon and McCartney only comes along every 400 years or so. We were privileged to live in a time when it came along.
Never has there been a band like the Beatles. You can like others more, but none can compare. No band was as influential and changed the music industry like the Beatles.
They formed in 1960, disbanded in 1970, a period of only 10 years, and still have outsold any other rock or pop band. They only toured from 1964-1966. Compare that to The Rolling Stones or any other band that has been together for decades.
Like them or hate them, no one comes close to the music they wrote and played .
They put the βgroup soundβ to rock and roll while all others were just individuals except for Bill Haley and The Comets before The Beatles.
Say what you want about them or their politics etc. Talent the level of Lennon and McCartney only comes along every 400 years or so. We were privileged to live in a time when it came along.
This is fact and the reason why even musicians who are Beatle fans cannot replicate the sounds and musicianship they did with routine, simply because it requires every member of the emulator band to be capable of reproducing their part and that is as rare as rocking horse sheit,
They also generated more firsts, than any other band. They were innovators which is why their estates continue to accrue wealth and will after all 4 are gone, us too.
The Beatles wrote and sang songs, everyone else plays songs, digest that for a moment....... Stoned vs Beatles, what a joke, proven by the amount of people who would prefer to listen to a Stones LP with the backing tracks removed compared to the Beatles doing same.
They also generated more firsts, than any other band. They were innovators which is why their estates continue to accrue wealth and will after all 4 are gone, us too.
Of course the firsts referred to here are not the #1 records they had as that could have even been greater, had they not competed with themselves for those #1 charted songs.
There were times the Beatles owned the top 5 or 6 positions on the pop chart, making it impossible to garner the most #1βs they are would likely have gotten had they not released so many hits at one time.
Say what you want about them or their politics etc. Talent the level of Lennon and McCartney only comes along every 400 years or so. We were privileged to live in a time when it came along.
A great rendition of a hauntingly beautiful love song, one of my early favorites.
The Beatles saw me through Jr. High and H.S. and While Iβm no expert, I think they wrote some of the greatest melodies of any band since, aside from their instrumentation.
They all showed their talent as they went on beyond the Beatles, maybe particularly Paul with Wings. Check out the baseline he plays as he sings βSilly Love Songβ.
Say what you want about them or their politics etc. Talent the level of Lennon and McCartney only comes along every 400 years or so. We were privileged to live in a time when it came along.
I make no knock on them and felt that two or three of their recordings were very good. But - with no need to argue the issue - that remark about the level of talent every 400 years seems like a quite inexperienced posture in the realm of music.
The Beatles and George Martin are to music AND stereo sound what Stradivarius was to the violin. Perfect match of materials and talent came together to make something on a higher plane than what everybody else was making. They changed art in such a remarkable way that we are still arguing over it 50+ years later. It does not surprise me guys on 24HCF don't get it.
Well - is it really "art" that they changed and that folks argue about? Yes, clever and innovators to a limited extent - but quite a bit of BeatllesMusicStereoHyperbole in that post. Some guys on the Campfire get all of it very well, but their knowledge, skills and taste get them to a different elevation. But, I would appreciate knowing about the Stradivarius level ultra-advanced stereo sound equipment they created/invented.
Say what you want about them or their politics etc. Talent the level of Lennon and McCartney only comes along every 400 years or so. We were privileged to live in a time when it came along.
The Beatles and George Martin are to music AND stereo sound what Stradivarius was to the violin. Perfect match of materials and talent came together to make something on a higher plane than what everybody else was making. They changed art in such a remarkable way that we are still arguing over it 50+ years later. It does not surprise me guys on 24HCF don't get it.
Well - is it really "art" that they changed and that folks argue about? Yes, clever and innovators to a limited extent - but quite a bit of BeatllesMusicStereoHyperbole in that post. Some guys on the Campfire get all of it very well, but their knowledge, skills and taste get them to a different elevation. But, I would appreciate knowing about the Stradivarius level ultra-advanced stereo sound equipment they created/invented.
It does not surprise me that you misunderstood my comment about stereo sound just like it doesn't surprise me that I mentioned George Martin and the OP replied "D18" which is a Martin guitar mostly unrelated to the subject.
Hyperbole? No, the Beatles did a lot more for modern music than a Strad ever would, but I was trying to paint a picture for the old crusty guys on the fire.
They were way over rated. Just read the lyrics to Yellow Submarine. It is just garbage. I think by the time they wrote that song, they were so big, that they deliberately wrote garbage just to see if they could sell it. Sort of a joke on the entire world. And they did sell it! Yellow Submarine was so popular they made a movie from it.
Don't get me wrong they were a great group and made some great music, and they also made millions selling garbage like Yellow Submarine.
Say what you want about them or their politics etc. Talent the level of Lennon and McCartney only comes along every 400 years or so. We were privileged to live in a time when it came along.
The Yellow Submarine album was them appeasing contractual obligations with songs that didn't make the cut on other projects as well as George Martin piecing together other work to try and fill the obligations.
They did not make a movie from it either as the movie came before the soundtrack.
Not chit lyrics, or maybe? but consider the times & mindset of the day. Borderline getting booted of the air, everywhere. In some locations it did.
Writing, Saying/singing a message that nearly got banned. Tricky, talented IMO. And, a pretty neat song. Shook things up at the time, another era. And, who in rock used a Sitar? The Stones did, the Doors as well, but,,,,,,,,,, the Beatles led that as well.
"Band on the Run" was on the jukebox at my high school hangout and I got laid to it more than once...so props for that! But...my favorite by far of any of the Beatles was Harrison with The Traveling Wilburys...just freaking instant classic. A REAL quote "supergroup"!
Hordes of pubescent screaming girls and a handful of male fans sure sounds like Menudo, New Kids, Backstreet, The Villiage People, Hermans Hermits, Chad and Jeremy etc. to me. Pete was a fan too, so there is that.
The Beatles got big because everything else on the radio at that time was schidt from the 50's or phugging Petula Clark....
The Beatles and George Martin are to music AND stereo sound what Stradivarius was to the violin. Perfect match of materials and talent came together to make something on a higher plane than what everybody else was making. They changed art in such a remarkable way that we are still arguing over it 50+ years later. It does not surprise me guys on 24HCF don't get it.
Well - is it really "art" that they changed and that folks argue about? Yes, clever and innovators to a limited extent - but quite a bit of BeatllesMusicStereoHyperbole in that post. Some guys on the Campfire get all of it very well, but their knowledge, skills and taste get them to a different elevation. But, I would appreciate knowing about the Stradivarius level ultra-advanced stereo sound equipment they created/invented.
It does not surprise me that you misunderstood my comment about stereo sound just like it doesn't surprise me that I mentioned George Martin and the OP replied "D18" which is a Martin guitar mostly unrelated to the subject. Hyperbole? No, the Beatles did a lot more for modern music than a Strad ever would, but I was trying to paint a picture for the old crusty guys on the fire.
You may be giving yourself too much credit - maybe dilettante gloating caused you to miss the twist of your nose. The "stereo equipment" line was a silly zinger just for you. I figured that you were trying to talk about studio manipulation when you said "stereo sound". Well - even without your overblown hyperbole many others and I understood a lot of what Martin and the boys were doing in studio with their dubs, retrogrades and inversions - assessed it by merely listening - in the 1960s. When did you first do such analysis?
You seem stuck on that Strad idea when it comes to "modern music" - so what is your definition of "modern music"? Do you mean rock, or pop, or the swing into disco - musical shows, or rap etc. Please describe. What do you call the stuff performed by really disciplined and highly accomplished musicians - with deep technique - like the ones who actually play a Strad? Do you mean that your Beatles did more for "modern music" than the "modern" composers who have written some of the most intellectually stimulating and artistically meaningful stuff since 1900 - like Schoenberg and his students Webern and Berg with the dodecaphonic method , or maybe Stravinsky or Babbitt, or Persichetti, or Corigliano? Just how high did those Beatles soar and how much true art did they create? Were those studio tricks on a higher plane than Itzak on a Strad playing the Bach Chaconne? I like some of the Beatles stuff - but the whole idea seemed rather trite - thus the term hyperbole.
Wrong - I did not misunderstand your comment about "stereo sound" - I did not understand it at all in the context you wrote. I think I understand "stereo" and probably understand "sound" as with frequencies striking the tympanum - but, since it is so central to your praise of the Beatles, please explain what you mean when you say "stereo sound" in your OP. Thanks.
Way to walk back your misunderstanding. Stereo sound equipment they created? Ha!
That "stereo" joke was on you - and you still don't get it. Is there even any personal substance at all for your heavy hyperbole about the "greater than Strad" business? You have the opportunity to answer several pointed inquiries and show your substance. Why are you avoiding that?
Not chit lyrics, or maybe? but consider the times & mindset of the day. Borderline getting booted of the air, everywhere. In some locations it did.
Writing, Saying/singing a message that nearly got banned. Tricky, talented IMO. And, a pretty neat song. Shook things up at the time, another era. And, who in rock used a Sitar? The Stones did, the Doors as well, but,,,,,,,,,, the Beatles led that as well.
This is an all-star song? Norwegian Wood? Yes the use of the sitar is just beautiful and very innovative. But the lyrics are all but gibberish. A guy making vague references to banging some gal. It is a long long way from Shakespeare.
And yet, Rolling Stone has this one rated as the 86th greatest song ever written. Yeah, right. Such is the power and the pull of the Beatles.
Simon, I said it was an all star song? I'm forgetful as hell, but don't remember saying or even implying that. Just different & a bit tricky "AT THE TIME".
What groups, had songs to compare it to in the day, all pop, motown & bubble bum. Different times. But name some.
Does it compare with I want to fugg you like an animal by the 9 inch nails?? Hardly.
The 60's were the 60's. Vague references were all that got through the censors. My point. Any more to the point & it wouldn't have been played. BS bible belt standards for the FCC IMO, but that was the way it was.
How many TV couples with children were sleeping in twin beds, if they were even shown, or it was implied they even slept in the same room???? BS, way too innocent times. Another sign of wit & talent by the Beatles that they got a message across while working within the standards of the time.
Plays on words that let the listener form their own scenario, whereas video would have been added in the 80's.
You can have all your "really disciplined and highly accomplished musicians - with deep technique." Great music doesn't need any of it which hurts a lot of feelers as it has yours here.Itzak Perlman and the dodecaphonic method? For fuggs sake!
Last time I checked, the status of "great music" was in the ears and taste of the listener. You know absolutely nothing about another persons "feelers" - as if some guy ranting hyperbole about a Beatle band is going to hurt anybody's feelings. Why not get off your Beatle soapbox for a minute and consider what you did back there - you can't explain why you said the silly things you did {?Strad?) - you can't even describe your concept of your term "modern music". The Beatles had their place and left their influence - we covered some of the best of it at the time - sorta knew it from the inside. Some good stuff - but not the hyperbolic effect that some like to rant. P.S. Kindly tell us about the anapest - if the Beats used it - what it is and its potential effect on the listener - and in which part they put it - and in which tunes. Interested in your reply.