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Posted By: Birdwatcher China and the Taliban - 08/16/21
From Drudge.....

https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/07/2...thdrawal-belt-road-geopolitics-strategy/
Posted By: kwg020 Re: China and the Taliban - 08/16/21
Afghanistan is now the new Tibet. A plan the chinese and the taliban have been working on for years. I suspect their cooperation goes back to when the taliban took over the country after 1991 and before they were chased out by American troops in 2002. This is nothing new to either the taliban or china.

kwg
Posted By: ruger438 Re: China and the Taliban - 08/16/21
My question is, are the Taliban leaders truly religious Muslims or more interested in money and power.
China sqashes Muslims in china so will the religious fanatics in the various tribal factions of the taliban be ok with that?
Also the Chinese will try to make sure they profit from the resources in Afghanistan, so will the tribal factions again be ok with Chinese infidel control of those resources?

I think Chinese-Taliban relations will start out great if for no other reason than to tweak the USA, and possibly hopes of financial gain. But once the honeymoon is over, it will blow up.

Dunno, just my thoughts
Posted By: GreggH Re: China and the Taliban - 08/16/21
China and the Taliban will be a good fit for each other. China will set up shop and start exploiting the resources until the mutt factions get worked up again. After that it will be a mess all over again.

GreggH
Posted By: rainshot Re: China and the Taliban - 08/16/21
Well Biden is paying old debts with "Build Back Better". The Taliban just think they had a tough time with Russia and the feckless US occupancies. They're in for a big surprise.
This unholy alliance could be fulfilling a prophecy from the Book of Revelation.
Posted By: ruger438 Re: China and the Taliban - 08/16/21
My guess is Taliban leadership is more interested in money and power, and just use the Muslim label.
The various tribes doing the dirty work are religious fanatics to one degree or another who have shown a historic penchant for going at each other .

The strongest factor in their cohesive cooperation is if they have a common real or perceived threat or enemy.

India response to a Chinese - Taliban relationship will be interesting to watch as well.
Just rambling I guess, I am certainly not an expert on this stuff.
Posted By: ruger438 Re: China and the Taliban - 08/16/21
Originally Posted by rainshot
Well Biden is paying old debts with "Build Back Better". The Taliban just think they had a tough time with Russia and the feckless US occupancies. They're in for a big surprise.
This unholy alliance could be fulfilling a prophecy from the Book of Revelation.


I agree. China plays tough and feel they are a superior race, they may manhandle the tribes more effectively than the Soviets or the usa did, but history in that region is against the Chinese succeeding, it more than likely will just light the whole thing off.
Posted By: ruger438 Re: China and the Taliban - 08/16/21
Originally Posted by kwg020
Afghanistan is now the new Tibet. A plan the chinese and the taliban have been working on for years. I suspect their cooperation goes back to when the taliban took over the country after 1991 and before they were chased out by American troops in 2002. This is nothing new to either the taliban or china.

kwg

That is an interesting take, I need to study up on Tibet history to make a comparison.
Posted By: viking Re: China and the Taliban - 08/16/21
I am a little rusty on the Word, but this is looking like Revaluation unfolding.

Hopefully some of our well versed will chime in.
Posted By: tndrbstr Re: China and the Taliban - 08/16/21
From the article,
....According to a 2014 report, Afghanistan may possess nearly a trillion dollars’ worth of extractable rare-earth metals locked within its mountains....
just a bit of perspective, that seems like peanuts to me, particularly since we have been casually throwing around a lot more than that like a drunkard at card table.
Posted By: hatari Re: China and the Taliban - 08/16/21
Originally Posted by tndrbstr
From the article,
....According to a 2014 report, Afghanistan may possess nearly a trillion dollars’ worth of extractable rare-earth metals locked within its mountains....
just a bit of perspective, that seems like peanuts to me, particularly since we have been casually throwing around a lot more than that like a drunkard at card table.



Rare earth metals are difficult to come by. The US has some in California, but we are forbidden from mining them. (You know, mining is not Green).

Rare Earth metal, among other uses are essential for modern high capacity battery manufacturing. China is corning the market on such things, as well as other metals. They are in every country in southern Africa and South America that mines.

The CCP has a plan and this is part of it.
Posted By: tndrbstr Re: China and the Taliban - 08/16/21
Originally Posted by hatari
Originally Posted by tndrbstr
From the article,
....According to a 2014 report, Afghanistan may possess nearly a trillion dollars’ worth of extractable rare-earth metals locked within its mountains....
just a bit of perspective, that seems like peanuts to me, particularly since we have been casually throwing around a lot more than that like a drunkard at card table.



Rare earth metals are difficult to come by. The US has some in California, but we are forbidden from mining them. (You, mining is not Green).

Rare Earth metal, among other uses are essential for modern high capacity battery manufacturing. China is corning the market on such things, as well as other metals. They are in every country in in southern Africa and South America that mines.

The CCP has a plan and this is part of it.


Point taken...
Posted By: renegade50 Re: China and the Taliban - 08/16/21
And this is all new as too what is really driving the pony " behind the scenes".

All about investments, cheap chinese labor, 0 regulations, shared border, chinese economic development and dominance of mineral resources with the ultimate long term end goal of a 1 world govt dominated by china.
We think 4 to 8 yrs ahead based on election cycle and what party is in office.
The Bucketheads think 25 50 100 yrs ahead and know time will work out for them.
It always has.
Nixon opened up china so to speak.
And here we are, what 50 yrs later????
They got most favored nation trade status what 20 or so yrs ago???

We are f u c k ed as a nation and it is happening daily 10 times faster since Joey the puppet got put into the white house thru massive election fraud.....

Many have realized this afghan mineral resource schit for years.
Too some it is all brand new to them.

Now it is starting to be talked about by the media and will gradually gain some momentum but will be brushed aside as the new normal.

The chinese taught the world a lesson with C19 on how dependant the world is on them.
Now they will have access to a untapped cornucopia of minerals and expand their raw material and economic control on the world even more.
Just wait till they develop military force projection world wide with increased naval assets and air lift capability.
And geuss where all the cheap raw materials are gonna come from waiting to be exploited.

This has been in the works for a lonnng time with many people and nations.
And many of em right here in the good ole USA....

SMH.......
Posted By: erikj Re: China and the Taliban - 08/16/21
Originally Posted by renegade50
And this is all new as too what is really driving the pony " behind the scenes".

All about investments, cheap chinese labor, 0 regulations, shared border, chinese economic development and dominance of mineral resources with the ultimate long term end goal of a 1 world govt dominated by china.
We think 4 to 8 yrs ahead based on election cycle and what party is in office.
The Bucketheads think 25 50 100 yrs ahead and know time will work out for them.
It always has.
Nixon opened up china so to speak.
And here we are, what 50 yrs later????
They got most favored nation trade status what 20 or so yrs ago???

We are f u c k ed as a nation and it is happening daily 10 times faster since Joey the puppet got put into the white house thru massive election fraud.....

Many have realized this afghan mineral resource schit for years.
Too some it is all brand new to them.

Now it is starting to be talked about by the media and will gradually gain some momentum but will be brushed aside as the new normal.

The chinese taught the world a lesson with C19 on how dependant the world is on them.
Now they will have access to a untapped cornucopia of minerals and expand their raw material and economic control on the world even more.
Just wait till they develop military force projection world wide with increased naval assets and air lift capability.
And geuss where all the cheap raw materials are gonna come from waiting to be exploited.

This has been in the works for a lonnng time with many people and nations.
And many of em right here in the good ole USA....

SMH.......

Was there a quid pro quo? Where's the transcript of Biden's phone calls with Xi?
Posted By: local_dirt Re: China and the Taliban - 08/16/21
Originally Posted by renegade50
And this is all new as too what is really driving the pony " behind the scenes".

All about investments, cheap chinese labor, 0 regulations, shared border, chinese economic development and dominance of mineral resources with the ultimate long term end goal of a 1 world govt dominated by china.
We think 4 to 8 yrs ahead based on election cycle and what party is in office.
The Bucketheads think 25 50 100 yrs ahead and know time will work out for them.
It always has.
Nixon opened up china so to speak.
And here we are, what 50 yrs later????
They got most favored nation trade status what 20 or so yrs ago???

We are f u c k ed as a nation and it is happening daily 10 times faster since Joey the puppet got put into the white house thru massive election fraud.....

Many have realized this afghan mineral resource schit for years.
Too some it is all brand new to them.

Now it is starting to be talked about by the media and will gradually gain some momentum but will be brushed aside as the new normal.

The chinese taught the world a lesson with C19 on how dependant the world is on them.
Now they will have access to a untapped cornucopia of minerals and expand their raw material and economic control on the world even more.
Just wait till they develop military force projection world wide with increased naval assets and air lift capability.
And geuss where all the cheap raw materials are gonna come from waiting to be exploited.

This has been in the works for a lonnng time with many people and nations.
And many of em right here in the good ole USA....

SMH.......





You will have to pay Joey, his handlers and the CCP a tax to own a new cell phone soon.
Posted By: renegade50 Re: China and the Taliban - 08/16/21
Originally Posted by erikj
Originally Posted by renegade50
And this is all new as too what is really driving the pony " behind the scenes".

All about investments, cheap chinese labor, 0 regulations, shared border, chinese economic development and dominance of mineral resources with the ultimate long term end goal of a 1 world govt dominated by china.
We think 4 to 8 yrs ahead based on election cycle and what party is in office.
The Bucketheads think 25 50 100 yrs ahead and know time will work out for them.
It always has.
Nixon opened up china so to speak.
And here we are, what 50 yrs later????
They got most favored nation trade status what 20 or so yrs ago???

We are f u c k ed as a nation and it is happening daily 10 times faster since Joey the puppet got put into the white house thru massive election fraud.....

Many have realized this afghan mineral resource schit for years.
Too some it is all brand new to them.

Now it is starting to be talked about by the media and will gradually gain some momentum but will be brushed aside as the new normal.

The chinese taught the world a lesson with C19 on how dependant the world is on them.
Now they will have access to a untapped cornucopia of minerals and expand their raw material and economic control on the world even more.
Just wait till they develop military force projection world wide with increased naval assets and air lift capability.
And geuss where all the cheap raw materials are gonna come from waiting to be exploited.

This has been in the works for a lonnng time with many people and nations.
And many of em right here in the good ole USA....

SMH.......

Was there a quid pro quo? Where's the transcript of Biden's phone calls with Xi?

Like Biden aint a patsy of the chinese.... SMH....

Do your research.
I feel 0 need to inform someone playing devils advocate with your post.
Your probably a Liberal Socialist Democrat anyway just from the inuendo laden content of your post.
Schit been in the works for decades worldwide at many levels.
If you dont see it .
Your blind or part of the problem.

If I am mistaken about you in general from that post.
Feel free to explain what you mean by its intent as a response to my post.

Cause we all know Liberal Socialist Democrats are unfughing touchable for anything they do....


Next....
Posted By: tndrbstr Re: China and the Taliban - 08/16/21
I wonder if the "big guy" will be satisfied with his measly 10% ?
Posted By: hookeye Re: China and the Taliban - 08/16/21
I suspect the muzzies aint gonna let the gooks rape em.
Do think China will get stronger, buy will let the muzzies act as their muscle.

Towelies will do that job for the money and street cred
Posted By: erikj Re: China and the Taliban - 08/16/21
Originally Posted by renegade50
Originally Posted by erikj
Originally Posted by renegade50
And this is all new as too what is really driving the pony " behind the scenes".

All about investments, cheap chinese labor, 0 regulations, shared border, chinese economic development and dominance of mineral resources with the ultimate long term end goal of a 1 world govt dominated by china.
We think 4 to 8 yrs ahead based on election cycle and what party is in office.
The Bucketheads think 25 50 100 yrs ahead and know time will work out for them.
It always has.
Nixon opened up china so to speak.
And here we are, what 50 yrs later????
They got most favored nation trade status what 20 or so yrs ago???

We are f u c k ed as a nation and it is happening daily 10 times faster since Joey the puppet got put into the white house thru massive election fraud.....

Many have realized this afghan mineral resource schit for years.
Too some it is all brand new to them.

Now it is starting to be talked about by the media and will gradually gain some momentum but will be brushed aside as the new normal.

The chinese taught the world a lesson with C19 on how dependant the world is on them.
Now they will have access to a untapped cornucopia of minerals and expand their raw material and economic control on the world even more.
Just wait till they develop military force projection world wide with increased naval assets and air lift capability.
And geuss where all the cheap raw materials are gonna come from waiting to be exploited.

This has been in the works for a lonnng time with many people and nations.
And many of em right here in the good ole USA....

SMH.......

Was there a quid pro quo? Where's the transcript of Biden's phone calls with Xi?

Like Biden aint a patsy of the chinese.... SMH....

Do your research.
I feel 0 need to inform someone playing devils advocate with your post.
Your probably a Liberal Socialist Democrat anyway just from the inuendo laden content of your post.
Schit been in the works for decades worldwide at many levels.
If you dont see it .
Your blind or part of the problem.

If I am mistaken about you in general from that post.
Feel free to explain what you mean by its intent as a response to my post.


Next....


Based on history, I think Biden just handed Afghanistan to Xi. Probably for his own interest, not America's. Same as Ukraine.
Posted By: renegade50 Re: China and the Taliban - 08/16/21
Originally Posted by tndrbstr
I wonder if the "big guy" will be satisfied with his measly 10% ?

Joey and gang worldwide got long term payoff coming their way from investments.
They have ground floor investments that will skyrocket.


Just like Lady byrd johnson and bell helicopter during the vietnam war as one small example....
Posted By: renegade50 Re: China and the Taliban - 08/16/21
Originally Posted by erikj
Originally Posted by renegade50
Originally Posted by erikj
Originally Posted by renegade50
And this is all new as too what is really driving the pony " behind the scenes".

All about investments, cheap chinese labor, 0 regulations, shared border, chinese economic development and dominance of mineral resources with the ultimate long term end goal of a 1 world govt dominated by china.
We think 4 to 8 yrs ahead based on election cycle and what party is in office.
The Bucketheads think 25 50 100 yrs ahead and know time will work out for them.
It always has.
Nixon opened up china so to speak.
And here we are, what 50 yrs later????
They got most favored nation trade status what 20 or so yrs ago???

We are f u c k ed as a nation and it is happening daily 10 times faster since Joey the puppet got put into the white house thru massive election fraud.....

Many have realized this afghan mineral resource schit for years.
Too some it is all brand new to them.

Now it is starting to be talked about by the media and will gradually gain some momentum but will be brushed aside as the new normal.

The chinese taught the world a lesson with C19 on how dependant the world is on them.
Now they will have access to a untapped cornucopia of minerals and expand their raw material and economic control on the world even more.
Just wait till they develop military force projection world wide with increased naval assets and air lift capability.
And geuss where all the cheap raw materials are gonna come from waiting to be exploited.

This has been in the works for a lonnng time with many people and nations.
And many of em right here in the good ole USA....

SMH.......

Was there a quid pro quo? Where's the transcript of Biden's phone calls with Xi?

Like Biden aint a patsy of the chinese.... SMH....

Do your research.
I feel 0 need to inform someone playing devils advocate with your post.
Your probably a Liberal Socialist Democrat anyway just from the inuendo laden content of your post.
Schit been in the works for decades worldwide at many levels.
If you dont see it .
Your blind or part of the problem.

If I am mistaken about you in general from that post.
Feel free to explain what you mean by its intent as a response to my post.


Next....


Based on history, I think Biden just handed Afghanistan to Xi. Probably for his own interest, not America's. Same as Ukraine.

Sorry I misunderstood you.

I shoulda been restrained on my wrong assumption.

It is a character flaw I have.

Based on my lack of faith in 99% of the human beings on this planet.

It is a conditioned thing for me.

Sorry for being a azz in general from my intial reply.
Posted By: erikj Re: China and the Taliban - 08/16/21
Originally Posted by renegade50
Originally Posted by erikj
Originally Posted by renegade50
Originally Posted by erikj
Originally Posted by renegade50
And this is all new as too what is really driving the pony " behind the scenes".

All about investments, cheap chinese labor, 0 regulations, shared border, chinese economic development and dominance of mineral resources with the ultimate long term end goal of a 1 world govt dominated by china.
We think 4 to 8 yrs ahead based on election cycle and what party is in office.
The Bucketheads think 25 50 100 yrs ahead and know time will work out for them.
It always has.
Nixon opened up china so to speak.
And here we are, what 50 yrs later????
They got most favored nation trade status what 20 or so yrs ago???

We are f u c k ed as a nation and it is happening daily 10 times faster since Joey the puppet got put into the white house thru massive election fraud.....

Many have realized this afghan mineral resource schit for years.
Too some it is all brand new to them.

Now it is starting to be talked about by the media and will gradually gain some momentum but will be brushed aside as the new normal.

The chinese taught the world a lesson with C19 on how dependant the world is on them.
Now they will have access to a untapped cornucopia of minerals and expand their raw material and economic control on the world even more.
Just wait till they develop military force projection world wide with increased naval assets and air lift capability.
And geuss where all the cheap raw materials are gonna come from waiting to be exploited.

This has been in the works for a lonnng time with many people and nations.
And many of em right here in the good ole USA....

SMH.......

Was there a quid pro quo? Where's the transcript of Biden's phone calls with Xi?

Like Biden aint a patsy of the chinese.... SMH....

Do your research.
I feel 0 need to inform someone playing devils advocate with your post.
Your probably a Liberal Socialist Democrat anyway just from the inuendo laden content of your post.
Schit been in the works for decades worldwide at many levels.
If you dont see it .
Your blind or part of the problem.

If I am mistaken about you in general from that post.
Feel free to explain what you mean by its intent as a response to my post.


Next....


Based on history, I think Biden just handed Afghanistan to Xi. Probably for his own interest, not America's. Same as Ukraine.

Sorry I misunderstood you.

I shoulda been restrained on my wrong assumption.

It is a character flaw I have.

Based on my lack of faith of 99% of the human beings on this planet.

It is a conditioned thing for me.

Sorry for being a azz in general from my intial reply.

No worries. I wasn't clear to begin with.
Posted By: renegade50 Re: China and the Taliban - 08/16/21
Originally Posted by hookeye
I suspect the muzzies aint gonna let the gooks rape em.
Do think China will get stronger, buy will let the muzzies act as their muscle.

Towelies will do that job for the money and street cred


Benjamins for the Taliban .
They will willingly become a partner puppet state with the chinese.
They will toletate each other.
The chinese have no gloves on when it comes to world opinon about how they handle their affairs.
They control the world economy basically and that is a huge wpn.

With Joey in office they have carte blanche privileges to do anything they want to do.
They have to much dirt on him and others to be chalkenged.

Even a nasty letter checking the block from him, other nations, or the UN is a 3 ft shot to the trash bucket for Xi while he chuckles momentarily about it.

President Trump has been the only POTUS to stand up to them about their currency manipulation and putting tariffs on em.
All through a position of strength.
They know their patsy Joey and gang are weak.
And will never have the leverage of strength in any matter due to their economic crimes they have commited for decades with shadow investments and business ties.
And the climate in general here in the U.S. is Liberal Socialist Democrats are untouchable in any matter....

The Bucketheads undid all the with their c19 low level persistent bio wpn.
Scared and taught the world a lesson.
Got President Trump out of office.

All thought out yrs beforehand.
With Liberal Socialist Democrats and Globalist exploiting it worldwide.


This nation is F u c ked.....
Posted By: local_dirt Re: China and the Taliban - 08/16/21
Originally Posted by renegade50
Originally Posted by tndrbstr
I wonder if the "big guy" will be satisfied with his measly 10% ?

Joey and gang worldwide got long term payoff coming their way from investments.
They have ground floor investments that will skyrocket.


Just like Lady byrd johnson and bell helicopter during the vietnam war as one small example....








Rare earth metals have been untouched resources there for decades, well hidden by .gov and the lamestream media.

ALWAYS Follow the money.
Posted By: renegade50 Re: China and the Taliban - 08/16/21
Just wait till the chinese start building AC carriers at a accelerating rate from afghan iron ore.
And they have huge force projection on the planet.
Throw in Acceleratated Airlift capability from Afghan mineral ores
Throw in electronic growth for ground and space wpn system from Rare earth element minerals.

They have economic power and treaties mean nothing to them.
Nation or world opinon or check the block paper outrage mean nothing to them.


Give em 25 to 50 yrs.

They will own the planet completely.
What we see now and know now is just the end stage of the beginning.
The toehold of dependence stage is long past on the world depending on china,s economy.
We are fully commited planet wide to them economically.

They are the manufacturers and the dealers all in one package
The world are their addicts....
Posted By: hatari Re: China and the Taliban - 08/16/21
China will pay the Taliban for rights to mine the minerals. The CCP doesn't care if the Taliban institutes Sharia or My Cheri Amour as long as they get what they want. That will make the Taliban happy. In return, no (other) outside power messes with the Taliban because China has interests and will offer "protection" either inferred or through other "channels".

Posted By: jaguartx Re: China and the Taliban - 08/16/21
Originally Posted by hatari
China will pay the Taliban for rights to mine the minerals. The CCP doesn't care if the Taliban institutes Sharia or My Cheri Amour as long as they get what they want. That will make the Taliban happy. In return, no (other) outside power messes with the Taliban because China has interests and will offer "protection" either inferred or through other "channels" LIKE BITEME.


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