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Afghanistan is now the new Tibet. A plan the chinese and the taliban have been working on for years. I suspect their cooperation goes back to when the taliban took over the country after 1991 and before they were chased out by American troops in 2002. This is nothing new to either the taliban or china.
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My question is, are the Taliban leaders truly religious Muslims or more interested in money and power. China sqashes Muslims in china so will the religious fanatics in the various tribal factions of the taliban be ok with that? Also the Chinese will try to make sure they profit from the resources in Afghanistan, so will the tribal factions again be ok with Chinese infidel control of those resources?
I think Chinese-Taliban relations will start out great if for no other reason than to tweak the USA, and possibly hopes of financial gain. But once the honeymoon is over, it will blow up.
Dunno, just my thoughts
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China and the Taliban will be a good fit for each other. China will set up shop and start exploiting the resources until the mutt factions get worked up again. After that it will be a mess all over again.
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Well Biden is paying old debts with "Build Back Better". The Taliban just think they had a tough time with Russia and the feckless US occupancies. They're in for a big surprise. This unholy alliance could be fulfilling a prophecy from the Book of Revelation.
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My guess is Taliban leadership is more interested in money and power, and just use the Muslim label. The various tribes doing the dirty work are religious fanatics to one degree or another who have shown a historic penchant for going at each other .
The strongest factor in their cohesive cooperation is if they have a common real or perceived threat or enemy.
India response to a Chinese - Taliban relationship will be interesting to watch as well. Just rambling I guess, I am certainly not an expert on this stuff.
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Well Biden is paying old debts with "Build Back Better". The Taliban just think they had a tough time with Russia and the feckless US occupancies. They're in for a big surprise. This unholy alliance could be fulfilling a prophecy from the Book of Revelation. I agree. China plays tough and feel they are a superior race, they may manhandle the tribes more effectively than the Soviets or the usa did, but history in that region is against the Chinese succeeding, it more than likely will just light the whole thing off.
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Afghanistan is now the new Tibet. A plan the chinese and the taliban have been working on for years. I suspect their cooperation goes back to when the taliban took over the country after 1991 and before they were chased out by American troops in 2002. This is nothing new to either the taliban or china.
kwg That is an interesting take, I need to study up on Tibet history to make a comparison.
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I am a little rusty on the Word, but this is looking like Revaluation unfolding.
Hopefully some of our well versed will chime in.
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From the article, ....According to a 2014 report, Afghanistan may possess nearly a trillion dollars’ worth of extractable rare-earth metals locked within its mountains.... just a bit of perspective, that seems like peanuts to me, particularly since we have been casually throwing around a lot more than that like a drunkard at card table.
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From the article, ....According to a 2014 report, Afghanistan may possess nearly a trillion dollars’ worth of extractable rare-earth metals locked within its mountains.... just a bit of perspective, that seems like peanuts to me, particularly since we have been casually throwing around a lot more than that like a drunkard at card table. Rare earth metals are difficult to come by. The US has some in California, but we are forbidden from mining them. (You know, mining is not Green). Rare Earth metal, among other uses are essential for modern high capacity battery manufacturing. China is corning the market on such things, as well as other metals. They are in every country in southern Africa and South America that mines. The CCP has a plan and this is part of it.
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From the article, ....According to a 2014 report, Afghanistan may possess nearly a trillion dollars’ worth of extractable rare-earth metals locked within its mountains.... just a bit of perspective, that seems like peanuts to me, particularly since we have been casually throwing around a lot more than that like a drunkard at card table. Rare earth metals are difficult to come by. The US has some in California, but we are forbidden from mining them. (You, mining is not Green). Rare Earth metal, among other uses are essential for modern high capacity battery manufacturing. China is corning the market on such things, as well as other metals. They are in every country in in southern Africa and South America that mines. The CCP has a plan and this is part of it. Point taken...
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And this is all new as too what is really driving the pony " behind the scenes".
All about investments, cheap chinese labor, 0 regulations, shared border, chinese economic development and dominance of mineral resources with the ultimate long term end goal of a 1 world govt dominated by china. We think 4 to 8 yrs ahead based on election cycle and what party is in office. The Bucketheads think 25 50 100 yrs ahead and know time will work out for them. It always has. Nixon opened up china so to speak. And here we are, what 50 yrs later???? They got most favored nation trade status what 20 or so yrs ago???
We are f u c k ed as a nation and it is happening daily 10 times faster since Joey the puppet got put into the white house thru massive election fraud.....
Many have realized this afghan mineral resource schit for years. Too some it is all brand new to them.
Now it is starting to be talked about by the media and will gradually gain some momentum but will be brushed aside as the new normal.
The chinese taught the world a lesson with C19 on how dependant the world is on them. Now they will have access to a untapped cornucopia of minerals and expand their raw material and economic control on the world even more. Just wait till they develop military force projection world wide with increased naval assets and air lift capability. And geuss where all the cheap raw materials are gonna come from waiting to be exploited.
This has been in the works for a lonnng time with many people and nations. And many of em right here in the good ole USA....
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And this is all new as too what is really driving the pony " behind the scenes".
All about investments, cheap chinese labor, 0 regulations, shared border, chinese economic development and dominance of mineral resources with the ultimate long term end goal of a 1 world govt dominated by china. We think 4 to 8 yrs ahead based on election cycle and what party is in office. The Bucketheads think 25 50 100 yrs ahead and know time will work out for them. It always has. Nixon opened up china so to speak. And here we are, what 50 yrs later???? They got most favored nation trade status what 20 or so yrs ago???
We are f u c k ed as a nation and it is happening daily 10 times faster since Joey the puppet got put into the white house thru massive election fraud.....
Many have realized this afghan mineral resource schit for years. Too some it is all brand new to them.
Now it is starting to be talked about by the media and will gradually gain some momentum but will be brushed aside as the new normal.
The chinese taught the world a lesson with C19 on how dependant the world is on them. Now they will have access to a untapped cornucopia of minerals and expand their raw material and economic control on the world even more. Just wait till they develop military force projection world wide with increased naval assets and air lift capability. And geuss where all the cheap raw materials are gonna come from waiting to be exploited.
This has been in the works for a lonnng time with many people and nations. And many of em right here in the good ole USA....
SMH....... Was there a quid pro quo? Where's the transcript of Biden's phone calls with Xi?
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If you work 40 hrs/wk: at 5% inflation and after 5 years, you need a 28% pay raise or to work 44 more hours (*one full extra week* per month+) to make up the difference.
This is inflation
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And this is all new as too what is really driving the pony " behind the scenes".
All about investments, cheap chinese labor, 0 regulations, shared border, chinese economic development and dominance of mineral resources with the ultimate long term end goal of a 1 world govt dominated by china. We think 4 to 8 yrs ahead based on election cycle and what party is in office. The Bucketheads think 25 50 100 yrs ahead and know time will work out for them. It always has. Nixon opened up china so to speak. And here we are, what 50 yrs later???? They got most favored nation trade status what 20 or so yrs ago???
We are f u c k ed as a nation and it is happening daily 10 times faster since Joey the puppet got put into the white house thru massive election fraud.....
Many have realized this afghan mineral resource schit for years. Too some it is all brand new to them.
Now it is starting to be talked about by the media and will gradually gain some momentum but will be brushed aside as the new normal.
The chinese taught the world a lesson with C19 on how dependant the world is on them. Now they will have access to a untapped cornucopia of minerals and expand their raw material and economic control on the world even more. Just wait till they develop military force projection world wide with increased naval assets and air lift capability. And geuss where all the cheap raw materials are gonna come from waiting to be exploited.
This has been in the works for a lonnng time with many people and nations. And many of em right here in the good ole USA....
SMH....... You will have to pay Joey, his handlers and the CCP a tax to own a new cell phone soon.
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And this is all new as too what is really driving the pony " behind the scenes".
All about investments, cheap chinese labor, 0 regulations, shared border, chinese economic development and dominance of mineral resources with the ultimate long term end goal of a 1 world govt dominated by china. We think 4 to 8 yrs ahead based on election cycle and what party is in office. The Bucketheads think 25 50 100 yrs ahead and know time will work out for them. It always has. Nixon opened up china so to speak. And here we are, what 50 yrs later???? They got most favored nation trade status what 20 or so yrs ago???
We are f u c k ed as a nation and it is happening daily 10 times faster since Joey the puppet got put into the white house thru massive election fraud.....
Many have realized this afghan mineral resource schit for years. Too some it is all brand new to them.
Now it is starting to be talked about by the media and will gradually gain some momentum but will be brushed aside as the new normal.
The chinese taught the world a lesson with C19 on how dependant the world is on them. Now they will have access to a untapped cornucopia of minerals and expand their raw material and economic control on the world even more. Just wait till they develop military force projection world wide with increased naval assets and air lift capability. And geuss where all the cheap raw materials are gonna come from waiting to be exploited.
This has been in the works for a lonnng time with many people and nations. And many of em right here in the good ole USA....
SMH....... Was there a quid pro quo? Where's the transcript of Biden's phone calls with Xi? Like Biden aint a patsy of the chinese.... SMH.... Do your research. I feel 0 need to inform someone playing devils advocate with your post. Your probably a Liberal Socialist Democrat anyway just from the inuendo laden content of your post. Schit been in the works for decades worldwide at many levels. If you dont see it . Your blind or part of the problem. If I am mistaken about you in general from that post. Feel free to explain what you mean by its intent as a response to my post. Cause we all know Liberal Socialist Democrats are unfughing touchable for anything they do.... Next....
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I wonder if the "big guy" will be satisfied with his measly 10% ?
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I suspect the muzzies aint gonna let the gooks rape em. Do think China will get stronger, buy will let the muzzies act as their muscle.
Towelies will do that job for the money and street cred
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And this is all new as too what is really driving the pony " behind the scenes".
All about investments, cheap chinese labor, 0 regulations, shared border, chinese economic development and dominance of mineral resources with the ultimate long term end goal of a 1 world govt dominated by china. We think 4 to 8 yrs ahead based on election cycle and what party is in office. The Bucketheads think 25 50 100 yrs ahead and know time will work out for them. It always has. Nixon opened up china so to speak. And here we are, what 50 yrs later???? They got most favored nation trade status what 20 or so yrs ago???
We are f u c k ed as a nation and it is happening daily 10 times faster since Joey the puppet got put into the white house thru massive election fraud.....
Many have realized this afghan mineral resource schit for years. Too some it is all brand new to them.
Now it is starting to be talked about by the media and will gradually gain some momentum but will be brushed aside as the new normal.
The chinese taught the world a lesson with C19 on how dependant the world is on them. Now they will have access to a untapped cornucopia of minerals and expand their raw material and economic control on the world even more. Just wait till they develop military force projection world wide with increased naval assets and air lift capability. And geuss where all the cheap raw materials are gonna come from waiting to be exploited.
This has been in the works for a lonnng time with many people and nations. And many of em right here in the good ole USA....
SMH....... Was there a quid pro quo? Where's the transcript of Biden's phone calls with Xi? Like Biden aint a patsy of the chinese.... SMH.... Do your research. I feel 0 need to inform someone playing devils advocate with your post. Your probably a Liberal Socialist Democrat anyway just from the inuendo laden content of your post. Schit been in the works for decades worldwide at many levels. If you dont see it . Your blind or part of the problem. If I am mistaken about you in general from that post. Feel free to explain what you mean by its intent as a response to my post. Next.... Based on history, I think Biden just handed Afghanistan to Xi. Probably for his own interest, not America's. Same as Ukraine.
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If you work 40 hrs/wk: at 5% inflation and after 5 years, you need a 28% pay raise or to work 44 more hours (*one full extra week* per month+) to make up the difference.
This is inflation
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I wonder if the "big guy" will be satisfied with his measly 10% ? Joey and gang worldwide got long term payoff coming their way from investments. They have ground floor investments that will skyrocket. Just like Lady byrd johnson and bell helicopter during the vietnam war as one small example....
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