Jake Sullivan just said this…

There are 6-10K Americans still waiting to get to the Kabul airport to be evacuated.

Now…

The Taliban now completely surround the airport.

Sullivan said that the Taliban would ‘allow’ the civilians to get to the airport, but he couldn’t name a leader in charge of the Taliban. So, we are going to trust an army of leaderless Taliban fighters on American safety.

Gents, we could possibly be watching the calm before the storm. The next few weeks are going to be very, very difficult. Very well could be worse than anyone alive can remember.

God help us. God help us.

This is already a hostage situation. No one get to or once there, gets in the airport unless the Taliban lets them. If the Taliban isn’t happy, it doesn’t happen. This is a hostage situation already.

I don't understand why you think we have weeks, hours is more like it.

that is stunning

Every person who voted for bidenco is responsible for the situation in Afghanistan.

Iran Hostage Crisis 2.0

Jimmy Carter 2.0

Democrat clusterfugg extraordinaire.

PedoBiden owns this, he owns everything that has gone to schitt since he used ELECTION FRAUD to worm his way into the White House. I'd pay President Vladimir Putin $2 to drop a nuke on the White House right now.

Woke.

All 20 of them.

The Massacre at Lucknow all over.

Trump’s fault.

10000 to 40000 Americans still there

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...erican-citizens-stranded-in-afghanistan/

All day, every day and twice on Sunday!

[sarc]Exactly. If Trump hadn't praised the White Supremacists at Charlottesville, then things would have been better...[/sarc]

Oh and how could I forget Cowpore!

It seems like at this point the Taliban have learned from both their past and the Iranians. They’re going to let the Americans and Afghan employees out. They’ll even let some of the government workers return under amnesty. They’ll get the westerners gone and get their people in place before they settle their scores. Smart of them. They keep the chaos to a minimum and make it hard for the west to economically sanction them.

Yeah, sanctioning all $2000 of their economy would go rough on them...

We’re holding billions of Afghan money and they’re going to have very valuable minerals to sell. The Taliban leadership spent a couple years in Quartar got to live in a functioning country. These guys aren’t Mullah Omar goat herders.

Worm is what he is.

I'll meet you back here in 5 years and see were it is at.

Then perhaps they can repay us for what we spent in their country.

I hope I am wrong but more shocking videos will be coming. This time with American citizens being executed. These images are going to tear this country to pieces. Far, far more than now.

God I pray that I am wrong.

snort~like all two people.

Dominion

Pfft... They don't care. Don't you know that? And Dominion will just change the programming and Biden will win by several trillion votes again.

Seriously, why would or why should the Taliban just let those Americans waltz right through that country and into the airport? Every single one of those people is worth BILLIONS of dollars. They have the power to bring down our government. Behead a few during prime time TV every single night for about the next six months and see what happens inside the US. There might be a damned revolution if Biden didn’t resign.

No foreign power in the history of our country has had this much leverage on us. And don’t think for one damned minute after Biden stood up there the other night and made his decision to pull out with no prior planning seem like a heroic gesture that he would EVER bring in more military force in that country. He isn’t going back on that. The Taliban is in the catbird’s seat as long as they want to be.

Spot on.

It’s why they surrounded the airport so quickly.

I don't think I'd start this thread, or make the above post a day after I started a "Let it go thread" to the OEF vets. But that is me.

Hell the Vietnamese tried it. They kept POWs back to use as pawns against us later just like they had with the French. They just didn’t count on us being ruthless and evil enough to pretend they didn’t exist. This is too public for that to happen now. To many people getting text messages from people trapped in there for Biden and company to just pretend they don’t exist.

For a cool $10 billion, the Taliban will offer to provide airport security, and let the US evacuate who they see fit. If they have any smarts at all, they should know they’ve got Biden by the balls...

I thought the same thing.

$1M per US citizen. As money shows up, US citizens are released.

Winning

It’s very possible if not likely. I think the leadership has a plan but how firm their control of their goat herder poppy farmer army they have is a different story. Then there’s the fact that the leadership are wack fanatics that could lose their cool at any moment. I’m hoping they keep it together and it doesn’t become an American bloodbath. I’m certain the Taliban will eventually kill all their internal rivals.

Hiden Biden and his Boss The Halfican have probably already sent them more than that. Plane loads of cash probably loaded on incoming planes for “Evacuation”.

They love em some Muzzy Terrorists. 😡

Leaving thousands of Americans and our allies there to fend for theirself is a disgrace.Good job you lying pieces of Liberal Socialist pieces of schidt

If I see one more person say "What does it matter, we were pulling out anyway" I'm going to punch them in the throat.


People (twats) are so stupid. Does anyone honestly believe it would have been the same if Trump was in office? Just like the Iranian hostages that were released when Reagan took over.

You know, they aren’t up in the mountains anymore. They are bottled up in a city. If the Taliban did what you guys describe, and they may, and it would be very ugly - we could deploy forces, cut off their escape routes and none of them would have to get out of Kabul alive. I would think those plans would be well under way already. Of course, given who is on charge, I am likely giving credit where it isn’t due.

KW,

Perfect comparison and fits the situation to a "T" ...except that the Biden administration is probably more obtuse !

Just think of the horror if the Taliban is able to isolate and destroy the NATO troops at the airport. Like the French at Bien den phu, the horror of it would shake the American military to its soul.
And Biden will own it lock, stock and barrel.

Pray

Biden wont resign, or be impeached....he has more chit to fugg up.

I don’t don’t doubt for an instant that the Taliban has at least a battalion’s worth of artillery set and targeted on that airfield. It would be easy enough to get enough downrange to do some serious hurt before those could be taken out even if we have the assets there and ready to do it.

Are you a veteran, Ray?

28 years worth, you? I didn't start a thread about "Let it go" concerning OEF vets and then start this guessing game thread, discussing the worse that might be

Did you start a "Let it go thread?"

You recall the 3 trillion dollar infrastructure bill that’s been bouncing around the Congress? Well wasn’t going to pass as an infrastructure bill so guess where it’s gonna go ! 🤬

LOL

I'm guessing that there are a lot of people that will never get to the airport.

Safe bet.

A guy called into Bongino today who claimed to be a former intel guy and he said there are up to 40,000 Americans still over there.

My fear is that the Taliban may be on their best behavior right now but they can't help who they are. I hope I'm wrong but I don't think they can fight the temptation to be Jihadists on camera for the whole world to see.

Every time I see them pimping around in armored HUMVEE I think of the big “lack of armored HUMVEE” stories from when we first got over there.

They sre working with their friends in the MSM.

If most of the Taliban are say... "Baptists" for example...

There are many who are "Westboro Baptist Churchers".....

Yes I am. Marines 2004-09, definitely not 28 years. I would think that some veterans of these wars might have some emotions in all of this, but that’s just me. Regardless, there is letting go of your demons and the crap you experienced and then there is discussing current events.

Thanks for your service.

The Taliban has Humvees? I thought those were made in the USA. Who sold them Humvees? Kind of like selling rifles to the Indians.

Doesn't the Pentagram have the world's most powerful hostage extraction team?

They’ve got EVERYTHING we left over there, now.

Hiden Biden and his Boss The Halfican wants to make sure the Taliban are well armed.

Nobody "sold" them Hummers. There were plenty of them and arms/ammo abandoned at outposts as the Afghan army retreated.

Oh, that's even worse, we gave them away. What does a Humvee cost?

Probably about 1/2 as much as it costs to fly the damn thing from here to there...

Les is in Saudi Arabia right?

was that service in the Coasties? Did you know stoolhead?


mike r

This is what I believe also. ^^^
The Taliban is not equivalent to Al Qaeda and Daesh (ISIS).

he works there but lives in the Philippines.

That idiot is about as much of a National Security Advisor is Obama was a leader.

Sad what out country has allowed to happen to it.

MM

The coming days will be very telling. I think the only viable option left to the Whitehouse now is to ask the Taliban how much they want. Maybe China is already advising the Taliban on this amount right now.

What does a thermite grenade cost?? $25.00? Too bad our soldiers couldn't drop one of those each inside all the "goodies" we left there.

L.W.

I read a story the other day that said “credible white house sources” were claiming we were offering to pay them to allow us to get our people out safely….. strongest nation in the world paying goat herders to not kill our citizens.

We just aren’t getting our people out. At least not all of them. The Taliban will keep some of them for later bargaining purposes no matter what we do.

Maybe I missed it: who are the American civilians left in Afghanistan? Why are they there? Who advised them to remain after Jan 1, 2021?

Meanwhile jo is at camp David and Jill has a cast on her foot and camel toe is more occupied with Haiti saying don’t pin this schit on me what if something really bad happens

Well, we supposedly left this equipment with the Afghan army that we had trained up. I guess our higher powers didn't expect them to tuck tail and walk off the job so easily. No worries, that [bleep] will be broke down and useless in no time. Hell, our guys have to work their asses off to keep the mess running.

Hostages.

That I find hard to believe. 20 years in theater, Biden and his cadre of advisers are on year 9 of leadership with Afghanistan as part of operations.

They knew - didn't care, which in my mind is worse.

That is a very good question. I have not seen this addressed in the media. Every American in that country knew, 8 months ago, that it was all over and it was just a matter of time. Why didn't they get out?

I hope the Taliban doesn’t go Fallujah on any Americans trying to reach the airport...If they do, Biden should be immediately ruined and replaced for lack of confidence.

Kill a few to save many ? Woah, tough call.

I’m more concerned that if the Taliban kills some Americans, Biden won’t do shît and will just say that resolving conflict is best done through negotiations.

I already mentioned, Biden is the worst Prez ever.

🦫

Those people traveled in caravans of soft vehicles that would have been easy pickings for ground attack aircraft like the Embrare 314 Super Tucanos that we bought for the Afghan Air Force. The Afghan military needed the stiffening that U.S. air support provided. When we abandoned Bagram AFB without a proper turn over to the Afghan Air Force I knew that trouble was close at hand, since you don't cut and run if your commitment to your allies is real and not just lip service.

Like Mark Twain is reputed to have said, "If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging!". Afghanistan was a hole that we could never dig ourselves out of, so we had to stop at some point, but the way that it happened was poorly planned, poorly executed, and makes us look weak and incompetent. Weakness and incompetentence emboldens our enemies to challenge us and those who our presence protects them. North Korea may be embolden to attack South Korea and China may be embolden to attach Taiwan. Russia may be embolden to attach Ukraine.

We trained Afghan pilots but maintenance of things like modern aircraft such as the Super Tucanos was beyond them. They’re mostly illiterate after all. So, all the American maintenance contractors were pulled out months ago. Inside a week or two, all those aircraft would have been redlined or their high tech weapons inoperable. They would have been better off if we had rounded up a dozen or so T-6 Texans and fitted them with four or six .50 cal Brownings. They might have been able to keep those running and any air support would have been potentially decisive.

Because the Taliban has ordered us out of the country by 9/11.

Trust a radical Muslim to keep his word?

Biden seems to...

Don't forget the 16 Aeritalia G222/C27As that we bought for $388,800,000 and sold for $32,000 as "scrap", a waste of $388.768,000 or 99.18% I can't believe that the USAF couldn't have found a better use for those 16 planes, even if we gave them to the USFS to be coverted to water bombers for fighting forest fires.

More likely they will keep some of the Americans and sell them to us. The $9 billion of Afghan money in US banks and releasing all the GITMO prisoners to start. Then maybe a few extra billions.

Remember the "Tractors for Cubans" campaign to free the Bay of Pigs prisoners that JFK abandoned in 1961?

Like i said,Bidens resignation speech.

So who are we gonna get when Biden goes away?

This was done on purpose. Probably with that in mind.
Now, does he send troops back in to continue the war after pulling govt contractors?
The troops there have no support.
Will the troops there be sacrificed to continue the war?

Piglosi.

Clue: when the audits reveal fraud, that will also unseat the VP.

Because they had contracts, the pay was good, and it never occurred to them that the US Military would be ordered to cut and run, leaving them in the lurch.

Perhaps I should have asked "What will change, other than the name on the rubber stamp in the oval office?"

The Daily Mail is reporting that evacuation flights are now leaving nearly empty because people can’t get to and into the airport in time. People are saying it is taking two days to get through four or five checkpoints.

I think they will attempt to seat Piglosi in the coming media blackout planned to block news of the Audit report.

And Jimmy Carter is doing the happy dance. He's got Biden and Obama in the #1 & #2 spot as the worst Presidents ever. Did I forget LBJ?

Here is Biden.

https://youtu.be/oNgDyV2Zifc

What will change is, Piglosi getting in aint happening.

Thats why Trump said "We have Giant Voice" and we had a EBS test.

I dont think the CCP will be taking Taiwan either.

Dan Scavino just tweeted this from Trumps arrival in Afghanistan in 2019.




Clue: Batman


peoms for friends

Well armed and done in such a way that they cannot be questioned as to how they acquired these arms AND there is no money trail as there was in Benghazi.

What ever the number of Americans or Associates is I wouldn't believe the State Department or the defense department or any of this administration to either be accurate or honest about the number.

Boy Howdy, you ain't kidding.