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"The Food and Drug Administration warned that ivermectin in large doses can cause side effects including “skin rash, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach pain, facial or limb swelling, neurologic adverse events, sudden drop in blood pressure, severe skin rash potentially requiring hospitalization and liver injury.”
Will it kill heart worms if you have them?????
Originally Posted by hanco
Will it kill heart worms if you have them?????


I use it for heart worms in my dogs. Works perfectly.
I use it in all the animals. Before everyone started using it for horses you could get pills. But now all you can find is paste.
Okay, I won't take it in large doses. Wasn't planning to anyway.
That part about LARGE doses...if you’re so stupid that you take enough to fry your liver it’s a good thing you die and hopefully haven’t passed on your stupidity genes. #Darwin !
"neurologic adverse events" DOHHHHHH!
Follow the money. They would rather you buy $5000 of medicine from big pharma than $10 from Tractor Supply.
Originally Posted by Stammster
Follow the money. That would rather you buy $5000 of medicine from big pharma than $10 from Tractor Supply.

This right here.

kwg
Originally Posted by Daveinjax
That part about LARGE doses...if you’re so stupid that you take enough to fry your liver it’s a good thing you die and hopefully haven’t passed on your stupidity genes. #Darwin !


There are people that are taking it daily as a preventative, which can be hazardous to their health
Originally Posted by jwp475


"The Food and Drug Administration warned that ivermectin in large doses can cause side effects including “skin rash, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach pain, facial or limb swelling, neurologic adverse events, sudden drop in blood pressure, severe skin rash potentially requiring hospitalization and liver injury.”



now if the FDA will just issue a warning of all the side effects of the shots....
Originally Posted by kwg020
Originally Posted by Stammster
Follow the money. That would rather you buy $5000 of medicine from big pharma than $10 from Tractor Supply.

This right here.

kwg


Much like natural antibodies, ain't no money in that schidt!
Originally Posted by killerv
Originally Posted by jwp475


"The Food and Drug Administration warned that ivermectin in large doses can cause side effects including “skin rash, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach pain, facial or limb swelling, neurologic adverse events, sudden drop in blood pressure, severe skin rash potentially requiring hospitalization and liver injury.”



now if the FDA will just issue a warning of all the side effects of the shots....


Pfizer posted 33.5 billion dollar profit in the first quarter of 2021
mRNA vaccine has never been used on people before and it was EUA with year of trials and test as is normally the case

I'm not going to take it
As long as it doesn't cause limp dick, people here will take it laugh
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by Daveinjax
That part about LARGE doses...if you’re so stupid that you take enough to fry your liver it’s a good thing you die and hopefully haven’t passed on your stupidity genes. #Darwin !


There are people that are taking it daily as a preventative, which can be hazardous to their health

All over the world to keep away parasites. Hydroxychloroquine is a very safe and effective drug that should be OTC for the treatment and prevention of the Chinese virus. Again , no money or power in it.
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by Daveinjax
That part about LARGE doses...if you’re so stupid that you take enough to fry your liver it’s a good thing you die and hopefully haven’t passed on your stupidity genes. #Darwin !


There are people that are taking it daily as a preventative, which can be hazardous to their health

Stupid is SUPPOSED to hurt
My bet is that those who were hospitalized for OD, took an entire tube’s worth.
Why would anyone take a large dose? Define a large dose.
Originally Posted by There_Ya_Go
Okay, I won't take it in large doses. Wasn't planning to anyway.

Exactly. Only in the recommended human dose by weight.
Taking a whole tube is kind of like drinking a full case of beer- ODing ain’t easy. Trying to swallow a whole tube of that greasy [bleep] you’re more likely to choke on it than anything.
It looks like people are catching on and are taking Ivermectin as a preventative because Tractor Supply is always sold out of the Ivermectin paste around here. It looks like selfish greedy people have bought all of Tractor Supply's Durvet brand Ivermectin and are selling it on Amazon for twice or more than Tractor Supply's price.
Been taking a monthly dose since last year and have regular blood tests. No problems.

Both hydroxychloroquine and Ivermectin have been used on thousands of patients successfully. Trouble is we listen to “experts” who have not treated patients for decades and discount those who do.

When you get a positive test you are told to go home take Tylenol and get rest until it’s time to go to the hospital to die. Our government has not said a word about treatment. I have friends who have been told by their doctors there is no cure after their positive test.

Originally Posted by jwp475


"The Food and Drug Administration warned that ivermectin in large doses can cause side effects including “skin rash, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach pain, facial or limb swelling, neurologic adverse events, sudden drop in blood pressure, severe skin rash potentially requiring hospitalization and liver injury.”



This is the FDA warning that every detractor on the use of Ivermectin uses to say it's not a viable drug for the COV. However, if you read the actual study where the dosage was determined, it was an "In-Vitro" lab study that has been debunked by the FLCCC.net. Dr. Pierre Kory explains the flaw with the results and why the FDA's doses are not valid. Dr. Kory also states how safe Ivermectin is and explains how you can take 10x their recommended dose and have zero side effects. It's that safe of a drug and IT WORKS!!!

Follow the Ivermectin dosing guidelines on the FLCCC.net website and all will be well!



And breathing causes cancer too.........................

MM
Safe to use, but, a guy doesn't need to do a 'twice yearly' deworming dosage on a daily basis as a Co19 preventative measure!
Originally Posted by killerv
Originally Posted by jwp475


"The Food and Drug Administration warned that ivermectin in large doses can cause side effects including “skin rash, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach pain, facial or limb swelling, neurologic adverse events, sudden drop in blood pressure, severe skin rash potentially requiring hospitalization and liver injury.”



now if the FDA will just issue a warning of all the side effects of the shots....



Here you go....

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/research/publications/index.html
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by Daveinjax
That part about LARGE doses...if you’re so stupid that you take enough to fry your liver it’s a good thing you die and hopefully haven’t passed on your stupidity genes. #Darwin !


There are people that are taking it daily as a preventative, which can be hazardous to their health


Pretty much anything can be hazardous to your health at the wrong dose.

Under a Dr supervision, no problem.

There are MDs taking it daily vs getting the shot.
Originally Posted by battue
Originally Posted by killerv
Originally Posted by jwp475


"The Food and Drug Administration warned that ivermectin in large doses can cause side effects including “skin rash, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach pain, facial or limb swelling, neurologic adverse events, sudden drop in blood pressure, severe skin rash potentially requiring hospitalization and liver injury.”



now if the FDA will just issue a warning of all the side effects of the shots....



Here you go....

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/research/publications/index.html

Ohhh stop it!
Do whut now?

Ivermectin for covid? First I’ve heard of this.

Can someone post dosages?
Originally Posted by slumlord
Do whut now?

Ivermectin for covid? First I’ve heard of this.

Can someone post dosages?


LOL ! Oh No you didn’t just ask for dosage recommendation 😳
so how does Ivermectin attack the covid-19 virus?
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by killerv
Originally Posted by jwp475


"The Food and Drug Administration warned that ivermectin in large doses can cause side effects including “skin rash, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach pain, facial or limb swelling, neurologic adverse events, sudden drop in blood pressure, severe skin rash potentially requiring hospitalization and liver injury.”



now if the FDA will just issue a warning of all the side effects of the shots....


Pfizer posted 33.5 billion dollar profit in the first quarter of 2021
mRNA vaccine has never been used on people before and it was EUA with year of trials and test as is normally the case

I'm not going to take it




No way.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by There_Ya_Go
Okay, I won't take it in large doses. Wasn't planning to anyway.

Exactly. Only in the recommended human dose by weight.
Right, take an appropriate dose. I took one dose and knocked out my fever within 12 hours. If you take a 1200 pound animal's dose maybe you deserve problems. The shame is that there isn't an over the counter source for Ivermectin and Hydroxy just as there is for aspirin and Tylenol both of which also cause problems for stupid people taking too much of a good thing. I remember when Ibuprofen was prescription but at some point the PTB decided to trust us with it.
Originally Posted by KFWA
so how does Ivermectin attack the covid-19 virus?
All that I have read about it says that it is not understood how or why it works but that it has proven to work in quite a few cases and in all stages of the disease.
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Safe to use, but, a guy doesn't need to do a 'twice yearly' deworming dosage on a daily basis as a Co19 preventative measure!


Correct...ivermectin is a relatively safe drug.....However daily use has no verification,,,,Big Pharma by the way, distributes million of doses yearly to impoverished countries free of charge...Dem pricks...

However, facts are humans sucking down a concentrated horse paste has potential issues with regards dosage and inert ingredients contained in the paste. Those ingredients may or may not alter bioavailability in humans....making it plus or minus potent....Those ingredients may or may not interact adversely with other human diseases or blood chemical imbalances. None know....because human studies are based on standard formulations of tablets or liquid.

Odd that some think they are being guinea pigs with the vaccine....but readily advocate others should glub down a medication fromulated for horses.

Covid, the vaccine and ivermectin have been an interesting look into the how people react....
Originally Posted by EdM
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by killerv
Originally Posted by jwp475


"The Food and Drug Administration warned that ivermectin in large doses can cause side effects including “skin rash, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach pain, facial or limb swelling, neurologic adverse events, sudden drop in blood pressure, severe skin rash potentially requiring hospitalization and liver injury.”



now if the FDA will just issue a warning of all the side effects of the shots....


Pfizer posted 33.5 billion dollar profit in the first quarter of 2021
mRNA vaccine has never been used on people before and it was EUA with year of trials and test as is normally the case

I'm not going to take it




No way.



Your right first quarter isn't correct

Biotech giant Pfizer expects to generate $33.5 billion in Covid-19 vaccine sales in 2021, up from previous estimates of $26 billion, according to its second quarter earnings reports. These projections are based on the 2.1 billion doses of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine which the company expects to manufacture and deliver by the end of the year.


"Pfizer Expects $33.5 Billion In Vaccine Revenue In 2021" https://www.forbes.com/sites/aayush...-billion-in-vaccine-revenue-in-2021/amp/
Originally Posted by killerv
Originally Posted by jwp475


"The Food and Drug Administration warned that ivermectin in large doses can cause side effects including “skin rash, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach pain, facial or limb swelling, neurologic adverse events, sudden drop in blood pressure, severe skin rash potentially requiring hospitalization and liver injury.”



now if the FDA will just issue a warning of all the side effects of the shots....


Drop the mic and walk away
Boom.......
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by KFWA
so how does Ivermectin attack the covid-19 virus?
All that I have read about it says that it is not understood how or why it works but that it has proven to work in quite a few cases and in all stages of the disease.

there has to be some source that can explain how it works.

Links are being thrown around here daily about studies and what not
Originally Posted by KFWA
so how does Ivermectin attack the covid-19 virus?

How does a Sure Grip posi traction unit work on a mopar 8-3/4 rear end???

It just does !!!
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this digs into it citing sources..the question of whether NCBI is a valid source of vetted scientific studies is an issue

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7521351/
Originally Posted by KFWA
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by KFWA
so how does Ivermectin attack the covid-19 virus?
All that I have read about it says that it is not understood how or why it works but that it has proven to work in quite a few cases and in all stages of the disease.

there has to be some source that can explain how it works.

Links are being thrown around here daily about studies and what not


Here is one video explaining how it works. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEO7Adv3tVI
Originally Posted by battue
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Safe to use, but, a guy doesn't need to do a 'twice yearly' deworming dosage on a daily basis as a Co19 preventative measure!


Correct...ivermectin is a relatively safe drug.....However daily use has no verification,,,,Big Pharma by the way, distributes million of doses yearly to impoverished countries free of charge...Dem pricks...

However, facts are humans sucking down a concentrated horse paste has potential issues with regards dosage and inert ingredients contained in the paste. Those ingredients may or may not alter bioavailability in humans....making it plus or minus potent....Those ingredients may or may not interact adversely with other human diseases or blood chemical imbalances. None know....because human studies are based on standard formulations of tablets or liquid.

Odd that some think they are being guinea pigs with the vaccine....but readily advocate others should glub down a medication fromulated for horses.

Covid, the vaccine and ivermectin have been an interesting look into the how people react....


Dosage is not a problem the plunger is marked in 50 pound increments. But the carrier may not be something used or tested on humans.
Ivermectin is ivermectin
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by battue
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Safe to use, but, a guy doesn't need to do a 'twice yearly' deworming dosage on a daily basis as a Co19 preventative measure!


Correct...ivermectin is a relatively safe drug.....However daily use has no verification,,,,Big Pharma by the way, distributes million of doses yearly to impoverished countries free of charge...Dem pricks...

However, facts are humans sucking down a concentrated horse paste has potential issues with regards dosage and inert ingredients contained in the paste. Those ingredients may or may not alter bioavailability in humans....making it plus or minus potent....Those ingredients may or may not interact adversely with other human diseases or blood chemical imbalances. None know....because human studies are based on standard formulations of tablets or liquid.

Odd that some think they are being guinea pigs with the vaccine....but readily advocate others should glub down a medication fromulated for horses.

Covid, the vaccine and ivermectin have been an interesting look into the how people react....


Dosage is not a problem the plunger is marked in 50 pound increments. But the carrier may not be something used or tested on humans.
Ivermectin is ivermectin





Well lots of folks are testing the carrier now since way too many doctors/hospitals/pharmacists are being jack asses.
study from Argentina that began in late 2020 and reference in PubMed.Gov

The subjects were divided into experimental (EG: n=117; 39.6 +/- 9.4 years old, 65F) and control groups (CG: n=117; 38.4 +/- 7.4 years old, 61F).

RESULT: The number of subjects who were diagnosed with COVID-19 in GE was lower, only 4 of 117 (3.4%) than subjects in CG: 25 of 117 (21.4%) (p-Value = 0.0001). Twenty patients had mild symptoms (n= 4 in EG, n= 16 in CG), the proportion test was p-Value = 0.001. Six subjects were moderate, and 3 with severe diagnostics, all them in CG. The probability (Odd Ratio) of becoming ill with COVID-19 was significantly lower in EG with values of 0.13 (CI = [0.03, 0.40]; p-Value = 0.0001), this value (<1) indicates a protective effect of the Ivermectin / Iota-Carrageenan in the EG. Logistic regression test demonstrated that prophylactic in EG is independent of the patient's preexisting variable comorbidity was 0.11, CI= [0.04, 0.33], and p-Value= 0.0001. On the other hand, this variable was 2.78 CI= [1.19, 6.48], p-Value = 0.018 in CG. Also, we found that when increase the age variable, also increases contagious risk for Covid-19 in all subjects 0,93 CI=[0.88, 0.98], p-Value= 0,0012.

CONCLUSION: The intensive preventive treatment (short-term) with Ivermectin / Iota - Carrageenan was able to reduce the number of health workers infected with COVID-19. This treatment had an additional effect in preventing the severity of the disease, since most of the patients who received the treatment were mild. We propose a new therapeutic alternative for prevention and short-term intervention scheme (intensive) that is of benefit of the health worker in this pandemic accelerated time. This treatment did not produce lack of adherence or adverse effects.

Then a follow up article from June of 2021

Throughout the pandemic, the anti-parasite drug ivermectin has attracted much attention, particularly in Latin America, as a potential way to treat COVID-19. But scientists say that recent, shocking revelations of widespread flaws in the data of a preprint study reporting that the medication greatly reduces COVID-19 deaths dampens ivermectin’s promise — and highlights the challenges of investigating drug efficacy during a pandemic.

“I was shocked, as everyone in the scientific community probably were,” says Eduardo López-Medina, a paediatrician at the Centre for the Study of Paediatric Infections in Cali, Colombia, who was not involved with the study and who has investigated whether ivermectin can improve COVID-19 symptoms. “It was one of the first papers that led everyone to get into the idea ivermectin worked” in a clinical-trial setting, he adds.

Latin America’s embrace of an unproven COVID treatment is hindering drug trials

The paper summarized the results of a clinical trial seeming to show that ivermectin can reduce COVID-19 death rates by more than 90%1 — among the largest studies of the drug’s ability to treat COVID-19 to date. But on 14 July, after internet sleuths raised concerns about plagiarism and data manipulation, the preprint server Research Square withdrew the paper because of “ethical concerns”.
You roll the dice and you take your chances.

You rather take some worm medicine or go the hospital and poisoned with Remdisivir, lose your kidneys resulting in lung edema, get put on a ventilator and have a 20% chance of surviving and 80% chance they report you died of Covid.
Im hoping the dimocraps stick with the Biteme/Fauccci/Gates depopulation treatment.
A pound of horse may not equate to a pound of a human....Their metabolism is different....and you can't equate the two...

"Drug metabolism: is the chemical alteration of a drug by the body. ... Some drugs are chemically altered by the body (metabolized). The substances that result from metabolism (metabolites) may be inactive, or they may be similar to or different from the original drug in therapeutic activity or toxicity."

How a drug metabolizes will have an effect on its bioavailability.....

"Bioavailability....Is the proportion of a drug or other substance which enters the circulation when introduced into the body and so is able to have an active effect."

So while ivermectin is ivermectin....a pound of horse does not necessarily equate to a pound of human when it comes to bioavailability and metabolism...Throw in the inert filler ingredients and how they may effect the two and the guessing game starts...

If you want to equate to human dosing... then you have to calculate the milligrams of ivermectin is in a specific amount of paste. And then weigh out that specific amount of paste. It is all on the label....

Best to be patient...Ivermectin should soon be on label for Covid... wink
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by There_Ya_Go
Okay, I won't take it in large doses. Wasn't planning to anyway.

Exactly. Only in the recommended human dose by weight.
Right, take an appropriate dose. I took one dose and knocked out my fever within 12 hours. If you take a 1200 pound animal's dose maybe you deserve problems. The shame is that there isn't an over the counter source for Ivermectin and Hydroxy just as there is for aspirin and Tylenol both of which also cause problems for stupid people taking too much of a good thing. I remember when Ibuprofen was prescription but at some point the PTB decided to trust us with it.

Yep.
Originally Posted by battue
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Safe to use, but, a guy doesn't need to do a 'twice yearly' deworming dosage on a daily basis as a Co19 preventative measure!


Correct...ivermectin is a relatively safe drug.....However daily use has no verification,,,,Big Pharma by the way, distributes million of doses yearly to impoverished countries free of charge...Dem pricks...

However, facts are humans sucking down a concentrated horse paste has potential issues with regards dosage and inert ingredients contained in the paste. Those ingredients may or may not alter bioavailability in humans....making it plus or minus potent....Those ingredients may or may not interact adversely with other human diseases or blood chemical imbalances. None know....because human studies are based on standard formulations of tablets or liquid.

Odd that some think they are being guinea pigs with the vaccine....but readily advocate others should glub down a medication fromulated for horses.

Covid, the vaccine and ivermectin have been an interesting look into the how people react....
The inert substances found in the durvet Ivermectin are the same substances that are found in common food stuffs and over the counter medications.
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I'd love to know the real story behind that picture, assuming it's not Photoshopped.
As for the carrier I had no problems with Duvet or Bimectin.
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Safe to use, but, a guy doesn't need to do a 'twice yearly' deworming dosage on a daily basis as a Co19 preventative measure!


As a preventative measure, a dose is recommended every two weeks. If one has the COV, a dose is recommended every day for 3-5 days.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
The inert substances found in the durvet Ivermectin are the same substances that are found in common food stuffs and over the counter medications.


If you say so....I haven't looked...
I’ve been using it for months, it works just fine


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An example of metabolism and bioavailability not being equated across species...

PRECAUTIONS: Ivermectin Paste has been formulated specifically for use in horses only. This
product should not be used in other animal species as severe adverse reactions, including fatalities in
dogs, may result
Originally Posted by battue
An example of metabolism and bioavailability not being equated across species...

PRECAUTIONS: Ivermectin Paste has been formulated specifically for use in horses only. This
product should not be used in other animal species as severe adverse reactions, including fatalities in
dogs, may result
concerned^
Good thing the jab is safe and hasn’t caused any fatalities.
I swear there are way more innumerate people than illiterate.

Let's start from the top.

Dosage: 0.2mg ivermectin per kg of bodyweight, ref https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-I-MASK-Protocol-v4-2020-11-22.pdf

This is the dose recommended by those with extensive anecdotal experience with its use.

Dosage: 0.15mg / kg bodyweight or 0.2mg/kg bodyweight for parasites, ref https://www.drugs.com/dosage/ivermectin.html

Same dosage called for on the drugs.com website for various human parasites. HOW ABOUT WE CALL THE DOSAGE QUESTION SETTLED.




Horse paste: contains 1.87% ivermectin by weight. The syringe contains 6.08 grams and allegedly doses a 1250lb animal. Let's do some work.

1.87% of 6.08 grams = 0.0187 x 6.08 = 0.114g = 114mg of ivermectin per tube.

1250lb animal x (1kg/2.204lb) = 567 kg

Hmmm. Let's check the dosage....114mg per 567kg = 0.201 mg/kg DOSAGE IN THE GODDAM HORSE PASTE TUBE, SAME AS WHAT'S RECOMMENDED FOR HUMANS.



So, if you weigh 1250 lbs, or are otherwise massively mentally impaired, go ahead and gobble the whole tube, like the rest of the folks the hit journalism pieces are writing about. Or be rational: turn the plunger stopper to the weight increment that equals yours, squeeze it out, and chow down. Dosage schedule in accordance with flccc guidelines for early treatment, advanced treatment or prophylactic.



Regarding inert or filler ingredients...I'm HIGHLY DUBIOUS of the notion that a filler substance meant for squeezing into a prized animal worth up to scores of thousands of dollars, cannot be dealt with by the system of an omnivore. Good grief.


Originally Posted by battue
A pound of horse may not equate to a pound of a human....Their metabolism is different....and you can't equate the two...

"Drug metabolism: is the chemical alteration of a drug by the body. ... Some drugs are chemically altered by the body (metabolized). The substances that result from metabolism (metabolites) may be inactive, or they may be similar to or different from the original drug in therapeutic activity or toxicity."

How a drug metabolizes will have an effect on its bioavailability.....

"Bioavailability....Is the proportion of a drug or other substance which enters the circulation when introduced into the body and so is able to have an active effect."

So while ivermectin is ivermectin....a pound of horse does not necessarily equate to a pound of human when it comes to bioavailability and metabolism...Throw in the inert filler ingredients and how they may effect the two and the guessing game starts...

If you want to equate to human dosing... then you have to calculate the milligrams of ivermectin is in a specific amount of paste. And then weigh out that specific amount of paste. It is all on the label....

Best to be patient...Ivermectin should soon be on label for Covid... wink
The 3 (out of 5) of us that took Ivermectin immediately upon feeling symptomatic and then once each day for 5 days thereafter had SIGNIFICANTLY reduced symptoms as compared to the 2 that didn’t take Ivermectin. I know that it’s a very small sample but that is the only sample that I was concerned with. Based upon the fact that we had no adverse side effects from Ivermectin and it seemed to reduce the symptoms for those of us that used it I would not hesitate to use it again. I would definitely prefer that it was available OTC in “human form” but since our FDA is in bed with big Pharma and there’s no money in cheap, effective medications we’re left with 2 choices….don’t take it because it doesn’t carry the blessing of Pharma and the FDA or take it and possibly see a significant reduction of the symptoms of C-19. I don’t see what there is to lose…..assuming one is intelligent enough to take the appropriate amount (dose+frequency) there is no downside. We each must make the best decision for us and that often means not just thinking “outside the box” but acting outside the box. My distrust of our government, big Pharma, Fauci, etc is so strong that their recommendations are virtually worthless to me.
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by battue
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Safe to use, but, a guy doesn't need to do a 'twice yearly' deworming dosage on a daily basis as a Co19 preventative measure!


Correct...ivermectin is a relatively safe drug.....However daily use has no verification,,,,Big Pharma by the way, distributes million of doses yearly to impoverished countries free of charge...Dem pricks...

However, facts are humans sucking down a concentrated horse paste has potential issues with regards dosage and inert ingredients contained in the paste. Those ingredients may or may not alter bioavailability in humans....making it plus or minus potent....Those ingredients may or may not interact adversely with other human diseases or blood chemical imbalances. None know....because human studies are based on standard formulations of tablets or liquid.

Odd that some think they are being guinea pigs with the vaccine....but readily advocate others should glub down a medication fromulated for horses.

Covid, the vaccine and ivermectin have been an interesting look into the how people react....


Dosage is not a problem the plunger is marked in 50 pound increments. But the carrier may not be something used or tested on humans.
Ivermectin is ivermectin




Dosage has two primary components ( given the same composition), quantity and time. Plunger covers only one, neah mention of the other. Folks recommend for treatment only, with both components, fairly reasonable. Others, as a preventative, neah a mention of time.
I heard Tylenol, aspirin, and ibuprofen in large doses can fry your liver and/or kidneys. So please don't use them!! laugh
Originally Posted by battue
An example of metabolism and bioavailability not being equated across species...

PRECAUTIONS: Ivermectin Paste has been formulated specifically for use in horses only. This
product should not be used in other animal species as severe adverse reactions, including fatalities in
dogs, may result

Lawyers put things like that on labels. It's pretty standard. All you need to know is the ingredients.
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Originally Posted by battue
Originally Posted by killerv
Originally Posted by jwp475


"The Food and Drug Administration warned that ivermectin in large doses can cause side effects including “skin rash, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach pain, facial or limb swelling, neurologic adverse events, sudden drop in blood pressure, severe skin rash potentially requiring hospitalization and liver injury.”



now if the FDA will just issue a warning of all the side effects of the shots....



Here you go....

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/research/publications/index.html

Ohhh stop it!





Garbage.
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
The 3 (out of 5) of us that took Ivermectin immediately upon feeling symptomatic and then once each day for 5 days thereafter had SIGNIFICANTLY reduced symptoms as compared to the 2 that didn’t take Ivermectin. I know that it’s a very small sample but that is the only sample that I was concerned with. Based upon the fact that we had no adverse side effects from Ivermectin and it seemed to reduce the symptoms for those of us that used it I would not hesitate to use it again. I would definitely prefer that it was available OTC in “human form” but since our FDA is in bed with big Pharma and there’s no money in cheap, effective medications we’re left with 2 choices….don’t take it because it doesn’t carry the blessing of Pharma and the FDA or take it and possibly see a significant reduction of the symptoms of C-19. I don’t see what there is to lose…..assuming one is intelligent enough to take the appropriate amount (dose+frequency) there is no downside. We each must make the best decision for us and that often means not just thinking “outside the box” but acting outside the box. My distrust of our government, big Pharma, Fauci, etc is so strong that their recommendations are virtually worthless to me.

Bingo!
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
The 3 (out of 5) of us that took Ivermectin immediately upon feeling symptomatic and then once each day for 5 days thereafter had SIGNIFICANTLY reduced symptoms as compared to the 2 that didn’t take Ivermectin. I know that it’s a very small sample but that is the only sample that I was concerned with. Based upon the fact that we had no adverse side effects from Ivermectin and it seemed to reduce the symptoms for those of us that used it I would not hesitate to use it again. I would definitely prefer that it was available OTC in “human form” but since our FDA is in bed with big Pharma and there’s no money in cheap, effective medications we’re left with 2 choices….don’t take it because it doesn’t carry the blessing of Pharma and the FDA or take it and possibly see a significant reduction of the symptoms of C-19. I don’t see what there is to lose…..assuming one is intelligent enough to take the appropriate amount (dose+frequency) there is no downside. We each must make the best decision for us and that often means not just thinking “outside the box” but acting outside the box. My distrust of our government, big Pharma, Fauci, etc is so strong that their recommendations are virtually worthless to me.

Small sample, but frequently related. Almost as if there’s a pattern.
Appreciate battue’s perspective.

I suspect the inert ingredients are better than the inert plastic of intubation.

IMHO.
Originally Posted by Daveinjax
As for the carrier I had no problems with Duvet or Bimectin.

The injection stuff is so much less nasty. Not spermy at all.
Originally Posted by JeffP
Originally Posted by killerv
Originally Posted by jwp475


"The Food and Drug Administration warned that ivermectin in large doses can cause side effects including “skin rash, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach pain, facial or limb swelling, neurologic adverse events, sudden drop in blood pressure, severe skin rash potentially requiring hospitalization and liver injury.”



now if the FDA will just issue a warning of all the side effects of the shots....


Drop the mic and walk away
Boom.......





Haha. Yeah.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
The 3 (out of 5) of us that took Ivermectin immediately upon feeling symptomatic and then once each day for 5 days thereafter had SIGNIFICANTLY reduced symptoms as compared to the 2 that didn’t take Ivermectin. I know that it’s a very small sample but that is the only sample that I was concerned with. Based upon the fact that we had no adverse side effects from Ivermectin and it seemed to reduce the symptoms for those of us that used it I would not hesitate to use it again. I would definitely prefer that it was available OTC in “human form” but since our FDA is in bed with big Pharma and there’s no money in cheap, effective medications we’re left with 2 choices….don’t take it because it doesn’t carry the blessing of Pharma and the FDA or take it and possibly see a significant reduction of the symptoms of C-19. I don’t see what there is to lose…..assuming one is intelligent enough to take the appropriate amount (dose+frequency) there is no downside. We each must make the best decision for us and that often means not just thinking “outside the box” but acting outside the box. My distrust of our government, big Pharma, Fauci, etc is so strong that their recommendations are virtually worthless to me.

Bingo!





No kidding.

Print that paragraph on billboards.


I have been taking a weekly dose as a preventive measure for weeks now.

My ballz have not turned green.
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by battue
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Safe to use, but, a guy doesn't need to do a 'twice yearly' deworming dosage on a daily basis as a Co19 preventative measure!


Correct...ivermectin is a relatively safe drug.....However daily use has no verification,,,,Big Pharma by the way, distributes million of doses yearly to impoverished countries free of charge...Dem pricks...

However, facts are humans sucking down a concentrated horse paste has potential issues with regards dosage and inert ingredients contained in the paste. Those ingredients may or may not alter bioavailability in humans....making it plus or minus potent....Those ingredients may or may not interact adversely with other human diseases or blood chemical imbalances. None know....because human studies are based on standard formulations of tablets or liquid.

Odd that some think they are being guinea pigs with the vaccine....but readily advocate others should glub down a medication fromulated for horses.

Covid, the vaccine and ivermectin have been an interesting look into the how people react....


Dosage is not a problem the plunger is marked in 50 pound increments. But the carrier may not be something used or tested on humans.
Ivermectin is ivermectin





I pretty certain the carrier in the 1% sterile is simply propylene glycol.
Originally Posted by JakeBlues
As long as it doesn't cause limp dick, people here will take it laugh


Chortle!
I find the durvet apple stuff is down right tasty.
Originally Posted by BRISTECD
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by battue
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Safe to use, but, a guy doesn't need to do a 'twice yearly' deworming dosage on a daily basis as a Co19 preventative measure!


Correct...ivermectin is a relatively safe drug.....However daily use has no verification,,,,Big Pharma by the way, distributes million of doses yearly to impoverished countries free of charge...Dem pricks...

However, facts are humans sucking down a concentrated horse paste has potential issues with regards dosage and inert ingredients contained in the paste. Those ingredients may or may not alter bioavailability in humans....making it plus or minus potent....Those ingredients may or mayl not interact adversely with other human diseases or blood chemical imbalances. None know....because human studies are based on standard formulations of tablets or liquid.

Odd that some think they are being guinea pigs with the vaccine....but readily advocate others should glub down a medication fromulated for horses.

Covid, the vaccine and ivermectin have been an interesting look into the how people react....


Dosage is not a problem the plunger is marked in 50 pound increments. But the carrier may not be something used or tested on humans.
Ivermectin is ivermectin





I pretty certain the carrier in the 1% sterile is simply propylene glycol.

Like grandpa said, "anything in moderation." LOL
Originally Posted by MadTrapper375
I find the durvet apple stuff is down right tasty.





Smoothie base worthy.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by battue
An example of metabolism and bioavailability not being equated across species...

PRECAUTIONS: Ivermectin Paste has been formulated specifically for use in horses only. This
product should not be used in other animal species as severe adverse reactions, including fatalities in
dogs, may result

Lawyers put things like that on labels. It's pretty standard. All you need to know is the ingredients.



The Vets disagree:

“Additionally, certain dogs are genetically hypersensitive to the medication. In these dogs, ivermectin can pass directly to the brain and be toxic or even lethal. Sensitivity to the drug can also be seen in dogs or puppies that have overdosed on a similar medication in the past.

A genetic sensitivity to ivermectin can be seen in several breeds, but is more commonly seen in the following breeds:

Collie
Old English sheepdog
Shetland sheepdog (Sheltie)
Australian shepherd
German shepherd
Longhaired whippet
Silken windhound
Border collie
Dogs of mixed breeds that include herding breeds
This genetic sensitivity is due to a mutation in what is called the MDR1 gene. This mutant gene may make the dog more sensitive to several other medications as well. Not all individual dogs in the breeds listed above carry the mutant gene. The only way to know if an individual dog has the mutant MDR1 gene is through testing. To do the test, cells are scraped from the inside of the dog’s cheek and sent to a laboratory for genetic testing. Talk to your veterinarian if you are interested in having your dog tested.”
Why are we talking about dogs?
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Why are we talking about dogs?

Man's best friend? Duhhh.
Originally Posted by killerv
Originally Posted by jwp475


"The Food and Drug Administration warned that ivermectin in large doses can cause side effects including “skin rash, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach pain, facial or limb swelling, neurologic adverse events, sudden drop in blood pressure, severe skin rash potentially requiring hospitalization and liver injury.”



now if the FDA will just issue a warning of all the side effects of the shots....


You mean like turning people into magnets?

Alex Jones is way ahead of the FDA.
Metan
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Why are we talking about dogs?


Possible metabolism and bioavailability differences across species.. horses vs humans

In this case it doesn’t seem to be a short term issue…

Originally Posted by battue
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by battue
An example of metabolism and bioavailability not being equated across species...

PRECAUTIONS: Ivermectin Paste has been formulated specifically for use in horses only. This
product should not be used in other animal species as severe adverse reactions, including fatalities in
dogs, may result

Lawyers put things like that on labels. It's pretty standard. All you need to know is the ingredients.



The Vets disagree:

“Additionally, certain dogs are genetically hypersensitive to the medication. In these dogs, ivermectin can pass directly to the brain and be toxic or even lethal. Sensitivity to the drug can also be seen in dogs or puppies that have overdosed on a similar medication in the past.

A genetic sensitivity to ivermectin can be seen in several breeds, but is more commonly seen in the following breeds:

Collie
Old English sheepdog
Shetland sheepdog (Sheltie)
Australian shepherd
German shepherd
Longhaired whippet
Silken windhound
Border collie
Dogs of mixed breeds that include herding breeds
This genetic sensitivity is due to a mutation in what is called the MDR1 gene. This mutant gene may make the dog more sensitive to several other medications as well. Not all individual dogs in the breeds listed above carry the mutant gene. The only way to know if an individual dog has the mutant MDR1 gene is through testing. To do the test, cells are scraped from the inside of the dog’s cheek and sent to a laboratory for genetic testing. Talk to your veterinarian if you are interested in having your dog tested.”



Vet taught us in one of the classes I took in college to be careful with horse wormer and not give it to the dog because it could kill them stone dead. Pretty sure it was ivermectin he was talking about, but it's been a long time ago now.
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by battue
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by battue
An example of metabolism and bioavailability not being equated across species...

PRECAUTIONS: Ivermectin Paste has been formulated specifically for use in horses only. This
product should not be used in other animal species as severe adverse reactions, including fatalities in
dogs, may result

Lawyers put things like that on labels. It's pretty standard. All you need to know is the ingredients.



The Vets disagree:

“Additionally, certain dogs are genetically hypersensitive to the medication. In these dogs, ivermectin can pass directly to the brain and be toxic or even lethal. Sensitivity to the drug can also be seen in dogs or puppies that have overdosed on a similar medication in the past.

A genetic sensitivity to ivermectin can be seen in several breeds, but is more commonly seen in the following breeds:

Collie
Old English sheepdog
Shetland sheepdog (Sheltie)
Australian shepherd
German shepherd
Longhaired whippet
Silken windhound
Border collie
Dogs of mixed breeds that include herding breeds
This genetic sensitivity is due to a mutation in what is called the MDR1 gene. This mutant gene may make the dog more sensitive to several other medications as well. Not all individual dogs in the breeds listed above carry the mutant gene. The only way to know if an individual dog has the mutant MDR1 gene is through testing. To do the test, cells are scraped from the inside of the dog’s cheek and sent to a laboratory for genetic testing. Talk to your veterinarian if you are interested in having your dog tested.”



Vet taught us in one of the classes I took in college to be careful with horse wormer and not give it to the dog because it could kill them stone dead. Pretty sure it was ivermectin he was talking about, but it's been a long time ago now.
Heartworms in dogs bore into the heart and when they die leave holes which allow the animal to bleed out. Yes, be careful.
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Vet taught us in one of the classes I took in college to be careful with horse wormer and not give it to the dog because it could kill them stone dead. Pretty sure it was ivermectin he was talking about, but it's been a long time ago now.
That is correct. If a dog's heart is infested with heartworms and the worms die and turn loose bad stuff happens. I don't know of humans having canine heartworms, thank God. In Louisiana I've known of 2 year old dogs dying from heartworms and an outside dog 5 years old would be very lucky to not have serious heartworm disease. In my experience if a dog is given Ivermectin every month or 2 heartworms do not attach.
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Why are we talking about dogs?

Yes. Perplexing.
Originally Posted by battue
Metan
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Why are we talking about dogs?


Possible metabolism and bioavailability differences across species.. horses vs humans

In this case it doesn’t seem to be a short term issue…


It's long been established as one of the safest drugs worldwide to ever be released for over the counter sales for human use.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by battue
Metan
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Why are we talking about dogs?


Possible metabolism and bioavailability differences across species.. horses vs humans

In this case it doesn’t seem to be a short term issue…


It's long been established as one of the safest drugs worldwide to ever be released for over the counter sales.
Along with Hydroxychloraquine.
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff

Vet taught us in one of the classes I took in college to be careful with horse wormer and not give it to the dog because it could kill them stone dead. Pretty sure it was ivermectin he was talking about, but it's been a long time ago now.

Certain breeds of dog shouldn't use it, but for most breeds of dog its in common use for heartworm. It's the active ingredient in HeartGard.
First your local pharmacy and Walmart are full of OTC meds that will permanently harm you or kill you if over dosed. Eg; Ibuprophen.

Second, rather than poo-pooing the use of ivomectin, due to overdosing, wouldn’t it be far more beneficial to teach people how to properly calculate doses? You know, kinda like providing free needles and instructions for shooting up IV drugs ???

<sarcasm off>

As always, follow the money…
Originally Posted by Orion2000
First your local pharmacy and Walmart are full of OTC meds that will permanently harm you or kill you if over dosed. Eg; Ibuprophen.

Second, rather than poo-pooing the use of ivomectin, due to overdosing, wouldn’t it be far more beneficial to teach people how to properly calculate doses? You know, kinda like providing free needles and instructions for shooting up IV drugs ???

<sarcasm off>

As always, follow the money…



Most people in this country are too dumb to calculate a budget, let alone a dosage. Look at elected officials if you have any doubts.
Another funny thing is that the smart people here go fuucking on and on arguing a point, repeatedly saying the same thing, when nobody is actually arguing against their point, but, only discussing around the same subject matter..


Ivermectin is safe, got it, check that box. Indeed. Copy. 10-4.


Are there differences between species on how chemicals are metabolized. Yes. How microorganisms affect a host. Yes. Viruses too? Yes.

GFYs
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Vet taught us in one of the classes I took in college to be careful with horse wormer and not give it to the dog because it could kill them stone dead. Pretty sure it was ivermectin he was talking about, but it's been a long time ago now.
That is correct. If a dog's heart is infested with heartworms and the worms die and turn loose bad stuff happens. I don't know of humans having canine heartworms, thank God. In Louisiana I've known of 2 year old dogs dying from heartworms and an outside dog 5 years old would be very lucky to not have serious heartworm disease. In my experience if a dog is given Ivermectin every month or 2 heartworms do not attach.



Hastings, correct
Originally Posted by KFWA
Originally Posted by Hastings
Originally Posted by KFWA
so how does Ivermectin attack the covid-19 virus?
All that I have read about it says that it is not understood how or why it works but that it has proven to work in quite a few cases and in all stages of the disease.

there has to be some source that can explain how it works.

Links are being thrown around here daily about studies and what not


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8203399/
To bad folks can't read and follow instructions.
I only get my medical advice from Brighteon, Alex Jones and Dr Mercola

Eat lots of pinto beans, and pray often
Japan is now giving it out.
Originally Posted by slumlord
I only get my medical advice from Brighteon, Alex Jones and Dr Mercola
Eat lots of pinto beans, and pray often
Actually I believe praying and beans are both beneficial. Pinto beans and whatever meat scraps I could rake up kept me fed and out of debt during a time about 35 years ago when finances were not the best.
I get my pinto beans at the food bank
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Why are we talking about dogs?

Man's best friend? Duhhh.


Because most of us dont really care what happens to dumbass humans but dogs are special and deserve good treatment.
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Originally Posted by Daveinjax
As for the carrier I had no problems with Duvet or Bimectin.

The injection stuff is so much less nasty. Not spermy at all.



Spermy???????????? How would you know?
Maybe I shouldnt ask.
Im glad you all are getting dewormed after all these years. Good for you! I'll just drink a coke every day to kill mine.
Originally Posted by AZmark
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Originally Posted by Daveinjax
As for the carrier I had no problems with Duvet or Bimectin.

The injection stuff is so much less nasty. Not spermy at all.



Spermy???????????? How would you know?
Maybe I shouldnt ask.

Damned spell check! Was supposed to be "KY gina sex slop"
Originally Posted by plainsman456
To bad folks can't read and follow instructions.

Which instructions?
Originally Posted by AZmark
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Why are we talking about dogs?

Man's best friend? Duhhh.


Because most of us dont really care what happens to dumbass humans but dogs are special and deserve good treatment.


An AADD mind can be a wonderful thing....Don't be letting old Rosco be giving you a wakeup nuzzle....and make him abide by the 6 feet rule. laugh


https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases...rs/can-pets-get-coronavirus/faq-20486391


My daughter, 7, who has been hanging out a lot with the grandparents and their MSM, told me we better not shoot any deer this year because they might have Covid! Seems like one step forward, two behind...
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