I'm not going to argue that the 9mm is the best carry gun for protection against bears. It certainly wouldn't be my top choice against grizzly/brown bears. However, from a fairly recent study that I read, it stated that the 9mm had killed more grizzly/brown bears in defense situations than any other caliber in recent years. I found this a little surprising, but then again, I guess I shouldn't be surprised as 9mm's are super common, easy to carry, and tend to be easier to shoot accurately than larger caliber handguns. If given a choice between not having a gun on me and having a 9mm, I'll take the 9mm every time! In this video I'm just out having some fun with a new Smith&Wesson Shield Plus, and my youngest son, who is only 18, offered to video and edit a short video of it. I mean who can pass up a teenager offering to work??? Besides, I think he is pretty talented and his video editing skills far exceed mine, and frankly that of many other adults. Pretty talented kid if you ask me.
I seriously doubt the 9mm Para has been in numerous self defense skirmishes against brown and grizzlies, at least in meaningful statistical numbers. Maybe one or two were used but there's no way that the 9 has been used enough on these bears to form any type of determination of how effective it is. Even with a perfect cranial shot it may or may not be enough.
Nice video and nice shooting but that shooting range is literally a dump. I hate seeing places like that because it makes all shooters look like the slobs that we are made out to be by the media and anti-gunners.
I seriously doubt the 9mm Para has been in numerous self defense skirmishes against brown and grizzlies, at least in meaningful statistical numbers. Maybe one or two were used but there's no way that the 9 has been used enough on these bears to form any type of determination of how effective it is. Even with a perfect cranial shot it may or may not be enough.
"...fairly recent study..." Do you really want to be just another guy saying stuff? A name for that study could make you The World's Foremost Authority.
"...fairly recent study..." Do you really want to be just another guy saying stuff? A name for that study could make you The World's Foremost Authority.
Maybe this. The 9mm did well but the .44 mag reigns supreme.
I know a guy that killed a nuisance black bear with a 9mm, don't know how many times he hit it but he emptied the pistol on it. I'll take my 10mm over that 9mm all day long.
NVhntr...thanks. Following the links gets you to the Ammoland piece which has links to the local news reports. You are now The World's Foremost Authority.
I figured a few people get a little wound over what the article claimed. Iām pretty sure that is why the author wrote it. As for me, I prefer bigger calibers than 9mm for bears. I was just surprised by the results in the article. Actually Iāve killed a pretty fair number of black bears and at close range the 9mm will work. In Utah all I carry is a 9mm. In Montana I donāt have nearly as much confidence in the the 9mm as bear protection regardless of what the article said.
Lastly I didnāt put that junk out there. I cleaned up the bottles I took out, but I agree that itās sad people trash public land like that. The only thing good about that place is that itās a target rich place to burn a little ammo. This winter I plan to go out there and pile up anything that will burn and torch the pile. If I ever catch who is dumping all that junk they will get turned in immediately!
Maybe a combination of large magazine and controllable recoil. I had better be right first time with a .44 blackhawk. That said, all we have here is black bears. If I went to gruz country I would take ( from current guns) a .41 da, .357 da, .40 cap pistol, or .357 sa, or a 12 ga.
There is a lot of truth in what you said about being right the first time with a 44 mag. Iāve killed a number of bears and Iāve never been overly calm while doing so. I can only imagine what my adrenaline and heart rate would be if I were being charged. I shoot handguns relatively well, but Iām not so sure that would be a true statement under extreme stress. I personally do not enjoy shooting a 44 mag a whole lot.
I was a Black bear guide carried a S&W 44 mag. most of the time sometimes a 12 ga with buck shot ....one day had my 45 ACP had to use it shot a 200 lb. bear at 2' it had smoke coming from its head..... For me a 9mm is just not enough 45 ACP would be the minimum....
10 mm would be a better bear gun but it is on the lite side too. People who live and work in bear country have a much better idea of what to carry. Like a 12 gauge shotgun loaded with slugs. Nice video by the way.
Have you tried to work with the local branch of the agency that presides over that place? Besides burning, they may be able to come up with funding for a dumpster for the non combustible stuff.
And I haven't been involved in quite awhile, but in the mid 2000s I participated in a cleanup day on some checkerboard ranch land that was mostly organized by some sportsman's organizations and outfitters. Helps with maintaining access to places like that you were shooting at.