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It's quite astounding that theses so-called vaccines haven't produced the positive results that big pharma has touted.

Most people,who have paid attention,have discovered there are multiple successful protocols to treat this novel virus.These include very successful natural methods as well.

Unfortunately there are people who only believe that drugs are the answer to every malady that ails man.These same people have placed too much faith in these vaccines,which have failed far too many citizens.People should use what they have available and which has also demonstrated success.

This new method of monoclonal anti-body treatment has show a great deal of success,so far

DeSantis Team: More than Half of Those Seeking Lifesaving Coronavirus Treatment ‘Fully Vaccinated’
[Linked Image from media.breitbart.com]

More than half of the individuals seeking life-saving monoclonal antibody treatment are “fully vaccinated” individuals — news that comes as the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) and the Biden administration cut the supply of the treatment to Southern states.

“Florida is above average in vaccination rate. More than half of the patients in south Florida getting monoclonal antibody treatment are vaccinated and have breakthrough infections. Vaccinated or unvaccinated -Denying treatment to Covid patients is wrong,” DeSantis press secretary Christina Pushaw said on Thursday following the governor’s press conference, where he vowed to “work like hell” to get people the antibody treatment they need, regardless of the Biden administration’s actions.

On Friday, responding to critics, Pushaw reiterated that “[m]ore than half the patients getting the monoclonal antibody treatment in south Florida are fully vaccinated,” debunking the left-wing narrative that it is unvaccinated individuals, primarily, in the Sunshine State who are the primary reason for the demand:

Florida is above average in vaccination rate. More than half of the patients in south Florida getting monoclonal antibody treatment are vaccinated and have breakthrough infections. Vaccinated or unvaccinated -Denying treatment to Covid patients is wrong. https://t.co/NDA42jxbIL


More than half the patients getting the monoclonal antibody treatment in south Florida are fully vaccinated.
https://t.co/Y2GcNF0gYh

This week, the Biden administration and HHS announced plans to slash the supply of the lifesaving treatment, citing the need for “equitable distribution.” Yet, last week, President Joe Biden promised to “increase the average pace of shipment across the country of free monoclonal antibody treatments by another 50 percent.”

Gov. Ron DeSantis (R-FL) addressed the administration’s “very, very problematic” decision during a press conference on Thursday, warning it will hurt patients. He ultimately said his administration will “work like hell” to make sure people get the treatment they need, despite Biden’s cuts. He also told reporters that he already spoke to GlaxoSmithKline executives, expressing hope the state will be able to order treatments directly from the company.

“The clinical data on that was even better than the clinical data on Regeneron – 85 percent reduction in hospitalizations,” DeSantis said.

“It is not approved for subcutaneous injections, so if we get it, and we use it at our sites, we have to expand the amount of IV treatments that are available, which we are going to be willing to do,” he said, noting it does not have a purchasing agreement with the federal government, as Regeneron does.

“The federal government has bought all the Regeneron. They just upped it for another shipment. We are not able to buy it directly from Regeneron,” DeSantis added.

Biden, however, has continued to complain about Republican governors such as DeSantis and Greg Abbott (R-TX), asserting they are “doing everything they can to undermine the life-saving requirements that I have proposed.” Yet, it is his administration slashing lifesaving treatments from Southern states. In fact, his administration sent less than half the needed doses to Florida this week alone.

The move follows Biden’s divisive coronavirus speech this month, where he vowed to use his power as president to get certain governors opposing his edicts “out of the way.”



https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/09/17/desantis-team-coronavirus-treatment-vaccinated/


That just can’t be true
Decisions..... Decisions..... Decisions....

Who ya gonna believe... Pedojoe or DeSantis?
"fully vaccinated" in this case means nothing. They are not using a vaccine at all, but an experimental mRNA treatment. It cannot confer immunity at all. The biggest medical hoax in history.
^^^^
He’s right
Meanwhile the Pissheads say the "Vaccine" is the only alternative, no other treatments are available and lots of folks are dying because they just don't know.

The fuqkers pushing the Vaccine need to be hung.
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
"fully vaccinated" in this case means nothing. They are not using a vaccine at all, but an experimental mRNA treatment. It cannot confer immunity at all. The biggest medical hoax in history.

Hence my opening statement:

Originally Posted by rte
It's quite astounding that theses so-called vaccines haven't produced the positive results that big pharma has touted.
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
"fully vaccinated" in this case means nothing. They are not using a vaccine at all, but an experimental mRNA treatment. It cannot confer immunity at all. The biggest medical hoax in history.

Yep.
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Meanwhile the Pissheads say the "Vaccine" is the only alternative, no other treatments are available and lots of folks are dying because they just don't know.

The fuqkers pushing the Vaccine need to be hung.

Yep.
Originally Posted by rte
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
"fully vaccinated" in this case means nothing. They are not using a vaccine at all, but an experimental mRNA treatment. It cannot confer immunity at all. The biggest medical hoax in history.

Hence my opening statement:

Originally Posted by rte
It's quite astounding that theses so-called vaccines haven't produced the positive results that big pharma has touted.



Yep.lol
no one will admit that the vaccine is not a vaccine. It offers no immunity. Every 'variant' or mutation that comes along makes your shot useless.
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
no one will admit that the vaccine is not a vaccine. It offers no immunity. Every 'variant' or mutation that comes along makes your shot useless.



Hell of a lot of money to be made creating a shot for every virus that comes out.
hmmmmm. you could be on to something
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
no one will admit that the vaccine is not a vaccine. It offers no immunity. Every 'variant' or mutation that comes along makes your shot useless.



Hell of a lot of money to be made creating a shot for every virus that comes out.


Yep. FOLLOW The Money.
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
no one will admit that the vaccine is not a vaccine. It offers no immunity. Every 'variant' or mutation that comes along makes your shot useless.



Hell of a lot of money to be made creating a shot for every virus that comes out.


Yep. FOLLOW The Money.

Not a “outstanding” revelation either. A Govt Sponsored Hoax is easy enough to spot to anyone paying attention.
It’s all about the dollars. Money is the root of all evil
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
no one will admit that the vaccine is not a vaccine. It offers no immunity. Every 'variant' or mutation that comes along makes your shot useless.



Hell of a lot of money to be made creating a shot for every virus that comes out.


Yep. FOLLOW The Money.


https://www.newsweek.com/monoclonal...ave-livesone-costs-52-times-more-1629850

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Regeneron is selling its monoclonal antibody cocktail to the U.S. government at $2,100 per dose, the same price as Eli Lilly's treatment. That's about 52 times more than the cost of two doses of the Pfizer vaccine.

The only COVID-19 vaccine to be fully approved by the Food and Drug Administration, Pfizer sold its vaccine to the Trump administration in July 2020 for about $19.50 per dose. A two-dose vaccine, the inoculation costs about $40 per person. Moderna's vaccine is priced at about $15 per dose, a total of about $30 for full vaccination, and Johnson & Johnson's one-dose vaccine was only about $10 per dose, according to the Congressional Research Service.

Originally Posted by 12344mag



Hell of a lot of money to be made creating a shot for every virus that comes out.


Especially when the people buying it with somebody else's money can mandate it to everybody that isn't them.
Originally Posted by deflave

Originally Posted by 12344mag



Hell of a lot of money to be made creating a shot for every virus that comes out.


Especially when the people buying it with somebody else's money can mandate it to everybody that isn't them.


Fugg....you said a mouthful there.
Originally Posted by Squidge
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
no one will admit that the vaccine is not a vaccine. It offers no immunity. Every 'variant' or mutation that comes along makes your shot useless.



Hell of a lot of money to be made creating a shot for every virus that comes out.


Yep. FOLLOW The Money.


https://www.newsweek.com/monoclonal...ave-livesone-costs-52-times-more-1629850

Quote
Regeneron is selling its monoclonal antibody cocktail to the U.S. government at $2,100 per dose, the same price as Eli Lilly's treatment. That's about 52 times more than the cost of two doses of the Pfizer vaccine.

The only COVID-19 vaccine to be fully approved by the Food and Drug Administration, Pfizer sold its vaccine to the Trump administration in July 2020 for about $19.50 per dose. A two-dose vaccine, the inoculation costs about $40 per person. Moderna's vaccine is priced at about $15 per dose, a total of about $30 for full vaccination, and Johnson & Johnson's one-dose vaccine was only about $10 per dose, according to the Congressional Research Service.



Apples to Oranges. How many “fake Vaccine” jabs given vs how many monoclonal antibody cocktails ?
"Follow the money..."
Guaranteed or money back? The terms of the contract probably explain the situation we're in.
Originally Posted by Squidge
"Follow the money..."

Every human on the planet take a couple of Covid shots for a cost of 40 bucks, shots that have never been used in humans before, shots whose future adverse effects on the human body are completely unknown.

Or, if you get sick, take a monoclonal antibody infusion for 2100 bucks, infusions that have been used in humans for 35 years, infusions that made it from preclinical testing to human testing, and then 6 years or more of human testing before their use was approved.

Yeah, follow the money...and the power, and the control.
Regeneron is being used under "emergency authorization", it isn't FDA approved.
Originally Posted by Squidge
Regeneron is being used under "emergency authorization", it isn't FDA approved.


So I guess your fully vaccinated. And still wearing your mask.
Originally Posted by Squidge
Regeneron is being used under "emergency authorization", it isn't FDA approved.
Regeneron is a combination of two types of monoclonal antibodies.
Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by Squidge
Regeneron is being used under "emergency authorization", it isn't FDA approved.
Regeneron is a combination of two types of monoclonal antibodies.


Specifically designed to target the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2.
Originally Posted by Squidge
Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by Squidge
Regeneron is being used under "emergency authorization", it isn't FDA approved.
Regeneron is a combination of two types of monoclonal antibodies.
Specifically designed to target the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2.
The technology and efficacy and safety of monoclonal antibodies is well proven by 35 years of use in humans since they were first approved by the FDA in 1986.
and the other half are being treated for something else, but were given a PCR test on admission (according to an article in the gateway pundit)
#FollowTheScience
Curse those sons of bitches for making their own decisions! Who the hell do they think they are? (DGAF font).
It's still not approved by the FDA for this specific application, it does show promise though.
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Originally Posted by Squidge
Regeneron is being used under "emergency authorization", it isn't FDA approved.


So I guess your fully vaccinated. And still wearing your mask.


??? Crickets ???
Originally Posted by Squidge
It's still not approved by the FDA for this specific application, it does show promise though.

Who cares about the FDA?

The FDA is just a revolving door for former big pharma executives.

They do nothing for the benefit of the public but instead act in the best interest of big pharma.
Hence FDA approval would benefit big pharma. Circle jerk to the max.
Originally Posted by rte
Originally Posted by Squidge
It's still not approved by the FDA for this specific application, it does show promise though.

Who cares about the FDA?

The FDA is just a revolving door for former big pharma executives.

They do nothing for the benefit of the public but instead act in the best interest of big pharma.



Yep. And have about as much credibility as Fauci and Hiden Biden.
Originally Posted by Squidge
Regeneron is being used under "emergency authorization", it isn't FDA approved.

Like Ivermectin (and unlike mRNA vaccines), it's been successfully used, and FDA approved, for a while.

"Since 2014, FDA has approved at least five monoclonal antibodies per year, and this trend shows no signs of slowing. These therapies encompass a number of indications such as autoimmune disorders, infectious diseases, and oncology, among others." - Link

Stop spreading nonsense.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Squidge
Regeneron is being used under "emergency authorization", it isn't FDA approved.

Like Ivermectin (and unlike mRNA vaccines), it's been successfully used, and FDA approved, for a while.

"Since 2014, FDA has approved at least five monoclonal antibodies per year, and this trend shows no signs of slowing. These therapies encompass a number of indications such as autoimmune disorders, infectious diseases, and oncology, among others." - Link

Stop spreading nonsense.


And please tell us about your vaccinations. And what color mask you wear ??? 😜

Not talking about you TRH. Addressing SquidgeBit.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Squidge
Regeneron is being used under "emergency authorization", it isn't FDA approved.

Like Ivermectin (and unlike mRNA vaccines), it's been successfully used, and FDA approved, for a while.

"Since 2014, FDA has approved at least five monoclonal antibodies per year, and this trend shows no signs of slowing. These therapies encompass a number of indications such as autoimmune disorders, infectious diseases, and oncology, among others." - Link

Stop spreading nonsense.


You are as FOS as usual.

https://www.fda.gov/media/145610/download
I heard them monoclonals had graphene in them

lol
Originally Posted by AKwolverine

That's for this specific virus. It's been approved for multiple infectious diseases for many years. Monoclonal antibody therapy is well established as a treatment for infectious diseases, to include viruses. And that unlike the mRNA vaccine.
No [bleep].
And that’s precisely what squidge said; and what you attempted to correct him on.
Originally Posted by AKwolverine
No [bleep].
And that’s precisely what squidge said; and what you attempted to correct him on.

Squidge implied that the technology was not approved. It has been for a long time. It's a mere technicality that it hasn't had time yet to be specifically approved for this specific virus. This is quite a distinct situation from that of mRNA vaccines as treatments for viruses. In fact, efforts were made to obtain said approval for mRNA technology in the early 2000s for treatment of SARS-1, but they abandoned the work when they couldn't get through the animal phase of testing without killing most of the test animals. It was only able to be introduced for COVID-19 under EUA when they were told they could skip the animal studies this time, and jump right to the human trials. We are currently in the human trials. The whole human race are filling in for the test animals this time.
Originally Posted by slumlord
I heard them monoclonals had graphene in them

lol


Don't be an ass.
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by slumlord
I heard them monoclonals had graphene in them

lol


Don't be an ass.


Well I been watching these youtube videos and stuff, they got this strip mall preacher/ex chemist dropout/wholistic herbal massage therapist doctor that has his own podcast and all. He is pretty smart.
Originally Posted by Squidge
"Follow the money..."



"Follow the outcomes..."
All I know is the infusion helped my nephew. I can see why Biden would want to hold it back. It seems to be about killing the greatest number of citizens.
Originally Posted by slumlord
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by slumlord
I heard them monoclonals had graphene in them

lol


Don't be an ass.


Well I been watching these youtube videos and stuff, they got this strip mall preacher/ex chemist dropout/wholistic herbal massage therapist doctor that has his own podcast and all. He is pretty smart.


I thought we were both impersonating Big Jim.
Originally Posted by slumlord
I heard them monoclonals had graphene in them

lol


Chimeric monoclonal antibodies are developed from mice. "The chimerization process involves engineering the replacement of segments of the antibody molecule that distinguish it from a human antibody." Rodent antibodies. grin
Just in, all the fuuckers seeking medical treatment are alive. (pot stir)
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by Squidge
"Follow the money..."



"Follow the outcomes..."


Absolutely.
Originally Posted by Squidge
Originally Posted by slumlord
I heard them monoclonals had graphene in them

lol


Chimeric monoclonal antibodies are developed from mice. "The chimerization process involves engineering the replacement of segments of the antibody molecule that distinguish it from a human antibody." Rodent antibodies. grin

Yeah, but it's a once and done deal. The antibodies do their thing, and are then processed out of your body. The technology doesn't alter the genetic instructions of your own cells, turning them into GMO cells, as does mRNA technology.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Squidge
Originally Posted by slumlord
I heard them monoclonals had graphene in them

lol


Chimeric monoclonal antibodies are developed from mice. "The chimerization process involves engineering the replacement of segments of the antibody molecule that distinguish it from a human antibody." Rodent antibodies. grin

Yeah, but it's a once and done deal. The antibodies do their thing, and are then processed out of your body. The technology doesn't alter the genetic instructions of your own cells, turning them into GMO cells, as does mRNA technology.


You're mistaken about the mRNA technology.
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by slumlord
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by slumlord
I heard them monoclonals had graphene in them

lol


Don't be an ass.


Well I been watching these youtube videos and stuff, they got this strip mall preacher/ex chemist dropout/wholistic herbal massage therapist doctor that has his own podcast and all. He is pretty smart.


I thought we were both impersonating Big Jim.


My bad, I misunderstood your PM, I thought we were mocking the flat earth fluoride brigade.

Ok re-do

Get back into character. In France they call it a Royale with Cheese

Get straight what you want me to post 😂
Originally Posted by Squidge

You're mistaken about the mRNA technology.

No I'm not.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Squidge

You're mistaken about the mRNA technology.

No I'm not.


At least TRH hasn’t submitted to the Jab.
Originally Posted by slumlord
My bad, I misunderstood your PM, I thought we were mocking the flat earth fluoride brigade.

Ok re-do

Get back into character. In France they call it a Royale with Cheese

Get straight what you want me to post 😂


The last thing Kingston needs is another sock puppet.

Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Squidge

You're mistaken about the mRNA technology.

No I'm not.


At least TRH hasn’t submitted to the Jab.


Has Squidge?
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Squidge

You're mistaken about the mRNA technology.

No I'm not.


At least TRH hasn’t submitted to the Jab.


Has Squidge?


He refused to answer. Makes me wonder. 😜
If you really want to know, the answer is yes, that's been posted here before if you were paying attention. I also likely had covid last year in October even though I tested negative. A close coworker had it bad and I came down with a nasty cold and low grade fever exactly 10 days after he was diagnosed. I also could care less if others get jabbed or not, your choice, your call, not mine. Am I worried about catching covid? Nope! Do I care about accurate information? Yep.

The only place I might draw a line is horse wormer, I'll be pissed if the shelves are bare when our horses need wormed later this fall.

Any time "horse wormer" gets throwed out, ya know you're dealin with a liberal.
Rivetting discourse. What's any of it fuucking matter? Oh, don't you dare tell me what's right for me and listen up when I tell you what's right for you. Covid fatigue.
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Any time "horse wormer" gets throwed out, ya know you're dealin with a liberal.

LOL
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Any time "horse wormer" gets throwed out, ya know you're dealin with a liberal.


Lol, I take it you don't have horses, I like to call them "hay burners", technically they are my wife's pets.
Originally Posted by Squidge
If you really want to know, the answer is yes, that's been posted here before if you were paying attention. I also likely had covid last year in October even though I tested negative. A close coworker had it bad and I came down with a nasty cold and low grade fever exactly 10 days after he was diagnosed. I also could care less if others get jabbed or not, your choice, your call, not mine. Am I worried about catching covid? Nope! Do I care about accurate information? Yep.

The only place I might draw a line is horse wormer, I'll be pissed if the shelves are bare when our horses need wormed later this fall.



So. You had enough accurate information to take the Jab ?

Wow. That makes a lot of sense. 🤪
I'll take advice from folks like Doc Rocket rather than some of the misinformed clowns who post here. As I said, your choice, your call on the jab. What I choose to do is my call and really none of your GD business.
Originally Posted by Squidge
I'll take advice from folks like Doc Rocket rather than some of the misinformed clowns who post here. As I said, your choice, your call on the jab. What I choose to do is my call and really none of your GD business.


I’ve met Doc Rocket. He’s damn sure smarter than you. And at least he’s honest.
Simple point of order; the FDA has never in it’s existence “approved” anything. They either “clear” a product for use per the manufacturers claims or they don’t (which can be for a huge number of reasons).
Originally Posted by Squidge
I'll take advice from folks like Doc Rocket rather than some of the misinformed clowns who post here. As I said, your choice, your call on the jab. What I choose to do is my call and really none of your GD business.

If leftist a-holes were not trying to shove EUA treatments down the throats of the populace, if they were not threatening people's livelihood, then maybe, just maybe, people wouldn't think you're a douche.
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by Squidge
I'll take advice from folks like Doc Rocket rather than some of the misinformed clowns who post here. As I said, your choice, your call on the jab. What I choose to do is my call and really none of your GD business.

If leftist a-holes were not trying to shove EUA treatments down the throats of the populace, if they were not threatening people's livelihood, then maybe, just maybe, people wouldn't think you're a douche.


LOL
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Originally Posted by Squidge
I'll take advice from folks like Doc Rocket rather than some of the misinformed clowns who post here. As I said, your choice, your call on the jab. What I choose to do is my call and really none of your GD business.


I’ve met Doc Rocket. He’s damn sure smarter than you. And at least he’s honest.


I'm a straight shooter and respect Doc Rocket, I wouldn't mind meeting him some day, I do question your honesty and integrity.
Originally Posted by Squidge
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Originally Posted by Squidge
I'll take advice from folks like Doc Rocket rather than some of the misinformed clowns who post here. As I said, your choice, your call on the jab. What I choose to do is my call and really none of your GD business.


I’ve met Doc Rocket. He’s damn sure smarter than you. And at least he’s honest.


I'm a straight shooter and respect for Doc Rocket, I wouldn't mind meeting him some day, I do question your honesty and integrity.


LOL Says the guy that wouldn’t answer a straight up question.
Tells me all I need to know about your “honesty and integrity”.
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by Squidge
"Follow the money..."



"Follow the outcomes..."


Follow the piper
herin represented by Frau Ci and the MSM band.
Originally Posted by Fubarski
Any time "horse wormer" gets throwed out, ya know you're dealin with a liberal.



^^^This^^^
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by Squidge
"Follow the money..."



"Follow the outcomes..."


$40.00 for something that is less than reliable, or

$2100.00 for something that works,

That's pretty fuqking simple math.
Originally Posted by Squidge


The only place I might draw a line is horse wormer, I'll be pissed if the shelves are bare when our horses need wormed later this fall.




I got a bunch, I'll gladly sell it to you, maybe trade for some primers.........
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by Squidge


The only place I might draw a line is horse wormer, I'll be pissed if the shelves are bare when our horses need wormed later this fall.




I got a bunch, I'll gladly sell it to you, maybe trade for some primers.........


LMFAO
Seriously, why does it matter to guy 1 what the fuuck guy 2 does if guy 2 ain’t telling guy 1 wtf to do? It literally doesn't. It's just more cancel culture bs. But here, it's taken further where guy 1 is furthering the intrusion into guy 2s personal health business by telling guy 2 wtf he should do. And it goes on and on and on and guy 1 generally doesn't see ANY error in pointing out guy 2's presumed errors. My body my choice MFs. Or is this different? Rhetorical to the max.

If someone chooses something - and they die - go ahead, say they were wrong and give them the finger.


BFD if vaccd persons are seeking a treatment at a similar rate as the unvacc'd, they all ain’t dead, so it seems to be working. No Devil horns popping up on the vaccd, yet...
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by Squidge


The only place I might draw a line is horse wormer, I'll be pissed if the shelves are bare when our horses need wormed later this fall.




I got a bunch, I'll gladly sell it to you, maybe trade for some primers.........


I'm sure I can get it from our horse vet if needed, the wife's hay burners don't need wormed for at least another month.
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Seriously, why does it matter to guy 1 what the fuuck guy 2 does if guy 2 ain’t telling guy 1 wtf to do? It literally doesn't. It's just more cancel culture bs. But here, it's taken further where guy 1 is furthering the intrusion into guy 2s personal health business by telling guy 2 wtf he should do. And it goes on and on and on and guy 1 generally doesn't see ANY error in pointing out guy 2's presumed errors. My body my choice MFs. Or is this different? Rhetorical to the max.

If someone chooses something - and they die - go ahead, say they were wrong and give them the finger.


BFD if vaccd persons are seeking a treatment at a similar rate as the unvacc'd, they all ain’t dead, so it seems to be working. No Devil horns popping up on the vaccd, yet...


Meanwhile, your conversion to kumbayaism isn't but a week old.
Originally Posted by Squidge
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by Squidge


The only place I might draw a line is horse wormer, I'll be pissed if the shelves are bare when our horses need wormed later this fall.




I got a bunch, I'll gladly sell it to you, maybe trade for some primers.........


I'm sure I can get it from our horse vet if needed, the wife's hay burners don't need wormed for at least another month.



So, this was just histrionics.

Originally Posted by Squidge
The only place I might draw a line is horse wormer, I'll be pissed if the shelves are bare when our horses need wormed later this fall.
Quote
Florida is above average in vaccination rate. More than half of the patients in south Florida getting monoclonal antibody treatment are vaccinated and have breakthrough infections.





So much for docrocket's assertion of "only 17 worldwide".
Originally Posted by JSTUART
Quote
Florida is above average in vaccination rate. More than half of the patients in south Florida getting monoclonal antibody treatment are vaccinated and have breakthrough infections.





So much for docrocket's assertion of "only 17 worldwide".


DocRocket claimed that there were only 17 documented cases of reinfection world wide. Which was also absurd.
I personally know several people who've had the vaccine and still
became ill with covid.
Originally Posted by Raferman
I personally know several people who've had the vaccine and still
became ill with covid.


It won't be long and just about everyone you know who got vaccinated will come down with COVID.
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Seriously, why does it matter to guy 1 what the fuuck guy 2 does if guy 2 ain’t telling guy 1 wtf to do? It literally doesn't. It's just more cancel culture bs. But here, it's taken further where guy 1 is furthering the intrusion into guy 2s personal health business by telling guy 2 wtf he should do. And it goes on and on and on and guy 1 generally doesn't see ANY error in pointing out guy 2's presumed errors. My body my choice MFs. Or is this different? Rhetorical to the max.

If someone chooses something - and they die - go ahead, say they were wrong and give them the finger.


BFD if vaccd persons are seeking a treatment at a similar rate as the unvacc'd, they all ain’t dead, so it seems to be working. No Devil horns popping up on the vaccd, yet...


Meanwhile, your conversion to kumbayaism isn't but a week old.

I couldn't fuucking agree more. It's just plain damned silly to bother going on and on about what someone else does. There's been zero movement on anyone's expressed views for, like a YEAR. It's really ok to not agree on everything and if you don't agree, you are wrong. 😁
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by JSTUART
Quote
Florida is above average in vaccination rate. More than half of the patients in south Florida getting monoclonal antibody treatment are vaccinated and have breakthrough infections.





So much for docrocket's assertion of "only 17 worldwide".


DocRocket claimed that there were only 17 documented cases of reinfection world wide. Which was also absurd.

True legit current ICU stats, V'cd vs unVac'd that are actually in for respiratory issues caused bt Co19? We'll never know. Doesn't matter if you ain’t them or know them....

Maybe it's all a distraction from the important stuff actually going on?
Originally Posted by Squidge
If you really want to know, the answer is yes, that's been posted here before if you were paying attention. I also likely had covid last year in October even though I tested negative. A close coworker had it bad and I came down with a nasty cold and low grade fever exactly 10 days after he was diagnosed. I also could care less if others get jabbed or not, your choice, your call, not mine. Am I worried about catching covid? Nope! Do I care about accurate information? Yep.

The only place I might draw a line is horse wormer, I'll be pissed if the shelves are bare when our horses need wormed later this fall.



Just to clarify and get the timeline straight.

You believe you had the China Flu, and took the jab sometime after recovery?
Originally Posted by add
Originally Posted by Squidge
If you really want to know, the answer is yes, that's been posted here before if you were paying attention. I also likely had covid last year in October even though I tested negative. A close coworker had it bad and I came down with a nasty cold and low grade fever exactly 10 days after he was diagnosed. I also could care less if others get jabbed or not, your choice, your call, not mine. Am I worried about catching covid? Nope! Do I care about accurate information? Yep.

The only place I might draw a line is horse wormer, I'll be pissed if the shelves are bare when our horses need wormed later this fall.
Just to clarify and get the timeline straight.

You believe you had the China Flu, and took the jab sometime after recovery?

Insane, right? You cannot hope for better immunity than that from your own body's response to infection (both Killer T-Cell and antibody), yet he got an experimental mRNA injection after his body fought it off naturally. An experimental treatment with more adverse effects in just a few months than those for the entire previous history of vaccinations combined.
Eight months after recovery, was my wife's guideline for getting the jab 1, employed in a hospital. Doubt it will matter one bit. Not insane, not scary, not really anything to debate, her choice.
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer

Maybe it's all a distraction from the important stuff actually going on?


Not unlike your posts.
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer

Maybe it's all a distraction from the important stuff actually going on?


Not unlike your posts.

Sigh. You're just upset I don't think "Bob" is funny. GFY
Taking the vaccine took the guess work out of if I had been previously infected or not, it could have been just a bad cold that I had back in October. A couple notes, two of my close coworkers with confirmed covid cases last fall also got vaccinated this spring. Another close coworker who chose not to get vaccinated came down with it a month ago, her first test came back negative, her second test a few days later came back positive.
Have you grown Devil horns?


How does this article, the one you linked behind "Taking the vaccine took the guess work...", support the anecdotal information following it?

The author's source is Anthony Fauci. Who she cites repeatedly. She fails to address any research directly. It's nonsense.
The only important thing in a thread named "Half Of Those Seeking Monoclonal Treatment Are Fully Vaccinated" is IS IT TRUE?
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Have you grown Devil horns?


Lol, not yet. I'm not worried about catching covid or needing monoclonal antibodies either. Sooner or later most us will have antibodies either through vaccination or through infection, then this stupid pandemic will be over.
Originally Posted by Squidge
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Have you grown Devil horns?


Lol, not yet. I'm not worried about catching covid or needing monoclonal antibodies either. Sooner or later most us will have antibodies either through vaccination or through infection, then this stupid pandemic will be over.



Lol, no it won’t. It’s not going away.
Originally Posted by Squidge
Taking the vaccine took the guess work out of if I had been previously infected or not, it could have been just a bad cold that I had back in October. A couple notes, two of my close coworkers with confirmed covid cases last fall also got vaccinated this spring. Another close coworker who chose not to get vaccinated came down with it a month ago, her first test came back negative, her second test a few days later came back positive.



Is that a long-winded yes?
Originally Posted by Squidge
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Have you grown Devil horns?


Lol, not yet. I'm not worried about catching covid or needing monoclonal antibodies either. Sooner or later most us will have antibodies either through vaccination or through infection, then this stupid pandemic will be over.



You seem to have a handle on the science.

SMFH
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Originally Posted by Squidge
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Have you grown Devil horns?


Lol, not yet. I'm not worried about catching covid or needing monoclonal antibodies either. Sooner or later most us will have antibodies either through vaccination or through infection, then this stupid pandemic will be over.



Lol, no it won’t. It’s not going away.



Covid is definitely here to stay...There’s no vaccinating it into oblivion - like the common cold, it’s here.

Eventually, sure, it won’t be as difficult to overcome the symptoms for some who have had it. But, like the other flu viruses that kill people every year. Covid will get its share of the elderly, the poor of health, and those who are just unlucky and die from it.


🦫
Originally Posted by Beaver10
Originally Posted by SandBilly
Originally Posted by Squidge
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Have you grown Devil horns?


Lol, not yet. I'm not worried about catching covid or needing monoclonal antibodies either. Sooner or later most us will have antibodies either through vaccination or through infection, then this stupid pandemic will be over.



Lol, no it won’t. It’s not going away.



Covid is definitely here to stay...There’s no vaccinating it into oblivion - like the common cold, it’s here.

Eventually, sure, it won’t be as difficult to overcome the symptoms for some who have had it. But, like the other flu viruses that kill people every year. Covid will get its share of the elderly, the poor of health, and those who are just unlucky and die from it.


🦫



It won’t be near as bad if we can get the governments stranglehold off early treatment options.
Originally Posted by Squidge
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Have you grown Devil horns?


Lol, not yet. I'm not worried about catching covid or needing monoclonal antibodies either. Sooner or later most us will have antibodies either through vaccination or through infection, then this stupid pandemic will be over.




It doesn't appear that the antibodies from Vaccination are lasting very long...........#followthescience #thirdshot
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by Squidge
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Have you grown Devil horns?


Lol, not yet. I'm not worried about catching covid or needing monoclonal antibodies either. Sooner or later most us will have antibodies either through vaccination or through infection, then this stupid pandemic will be over.




It doesn't appear that the antibodies from Vaccination are lasting very long...........#followthescience #thirdshot

[sarc]But the FFA said know third shot....[/sarc]


Third of the same stuff? LOL
Bomber is hell bent on demonstrating his ignorance.
Originally Posted by SandBilly

It won’t be near as bad if we can get the governments stranglehold off early treatment options.

This.
Colo. has a pretty high vaccinated rate, how ever there was a news story earlier this month that showed a graph of breakthrough cases compared to unvaccinated cases and when a guy added up the breakthrough cases of those that had any one of the 3 "vaccines", those numbers were about equal to the "unvaccinated" cases. Apparently the local docs were struggling to give a good reason for the high breakthrough case rate.

Of course they were blaming the unvaccinated for passing the covid to the protected.

Surely it won't be long before someone, some doctor, will admit that those vaccinated can indeed pass the covid on to others that are also vaccinated. It's not rocket science.
The only vaccine in history that only works for the recipients if everyone else gets it. Of course, that's BS. It doesn't work even if everyone receives it, because it's not even designed to work, unless "work" means depopulation of the planet.
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by AKwolverine
No [bleep].
And that’s precisely what squidge said; and what you attempted to correct him on.

Squidge implied that the technology was not approved. It has been for a long time. It's a mere technicality that it hasn't had time yet to be specifically approved for this specific virus. This is quite a distinct situation from that of mRNA vaccines as treatments for viruses. In fact, efforts were made to obtain said approval for mRNA technology in the early 2000s for treatment of SARS-1, but they abandoned the work when they couldn't get through the animal phase of testing without killing most of the test animals. It was only able to be introduced for COVID-19 under EUA when they were told they could skip the animal studies this time, and jump right to the human trials. We are currently in the human trials. The whole human race are filling in for the test animals this time.


You're mistaken TRH, all three current covid vaccines have gone through animal trials without any significant safety concerns.

https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-covid-vaccine-animal-idUSL2N2NJ1IK

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Posts claiming that COVID-19 vaccine producers skipped animal trials due to the animals in those trials dying are false. Pfizer-BioNTech, Moderna and Johnson & Johnson, which have been granted emergency authorization use by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) in the United States, all conducted animal trials and had no significant safety concerns to report.


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An FDA spokesperson told Reuters via email that the claims that the vaccines had skipped animal trials due to animal death was untrue. None had significant safety issues to report in their respective animal trials, as seen under “5.3 Non-Clinical Studies” sections of the EUAs for Pfizer-BioNTech here , Moderna here and Johnson & Johnson here.

Due to time constraints and the urgency to find a vaccine for COVID-19, Moderna and Pfizer did receive approval to run animal testing and early trials on humans at the same time, as opposed to fully completing animal trials before moving on to human trials. This, however, does not mean animal trials were skipped or that the safety of the vaccines were compromised (here , here ,  here).


https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-r...h-announce-data-preclinical-studies-mrna

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03275-y

https://investors.modernatx.com/new...ication-new-england-journal-medicine-non

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...fety-hurdle-in-mouse-study-idUSKBN23J2S4

https://www.jnj.com/johnson-johnson...clinical-disease-in-pre-clinical-studies
There was no time for animal studies, so I find your sources suspect.
"As they race to test an experimental coronavirus vaccine, researchers aren’t waiting to see how well it prevents infection in animals before trying it in people, breaking from the usual protocol.

“I don’t think proving this in an animal model is on the critical path to getting this to a clinical trial,” said Tal Zaks, chief medical officer at Moderna, a Cambridge, Mass.-based biotech that has produced a Covid-19 vaccine candidate at record speed. He told STAT that scientists at the National Institutes of Health are “working on nonclinical research in parallel.” Meanwhile, the clinical trial started recruiting healthy participants in the first week of March.

That isn’t how vaccine testing normally happens. Regulators require that a manufacturer show a product is safe before it goes into people, and while it isn’t enshrined in law, researchers almost always check that a new concoction is effective in lab animals before putting human volunteers at potential risk.

“This is very unusual,” explained Akiko Iwasaki, a Yale University microbiologist who studies the immune response to viruses. “It reflects the urgency to develop vaccines to counter the Covid-19 pandemic.”"

Link
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
There was no time for animal studies, so I find your sources suspect.


Put up or shut up regarding your bullshit claim that there were no animal studies done on the current covid vaccines. Animal trials were done in conjunction with human trials to speed up the process.
Originally Posted by Squidge
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
There was no time for animal studies, so I find your sources suspect.


Put up or shut up regarding your bullshit claim that there were no animal studies done on the current covid vaccines.

Look up.
Click away and read up on the animal trials that were NOT skipped with the current vaccines.

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-r...h-announce-data-preclinical-studies-mrna

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03275-y

https://investors.modernatx.com/new...ication-new-england-journal-medicine-non

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...fety-hurdle-in-mouse-study-idUSKBN23J2S4

https://www.jnj.com/johnson-johnson...clinical-disease-in-pre-clinical-studies
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