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Posted By: flintlocke Calif mandatory vax, K-12? - 10/02/21
I wonder how much pushback this is going to get? There is legal precedent for it, I think Measles, Mumps, Rubella is already mandatory...but, it is a proven effective shot. Lot of doubt about the safety and efficacy of the various Covid concoctions. You get state govt between momma and the cubs, and the schidt could hit the fan.
A really f'd up deal. Keep pushing, something has got to give.
Saw that. That turd Newsom is some kinda greaseball.


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The worst Mamma's are the liberals who support this.
They are the ones that raise the roof, arrange boycotts and
beat down their opposition.


It's time for the Right to adopt the tactics that have beaten them
for decades.

Oh, yes. I forgot.
When they pushed into a building, after the gates and doors were opened
for them, doing no huge damage. No arson, mostly staying within the ropes.

It wasn't a "Mostly Peaceful Protest".

That only a applies to arson, looting, assualt.....
Its a good thing, stops the minorities from reproduction and kills off a bunch of them. Enough of them weren’t going to the abortion clinics or killing each other through shootings and stabbings.

Its a win-win against what Hillary calls “Predators”

Don’t you people EVER believe for a second the warpigs care about children except to diddle them

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I don't understand what all the opposition to the vaccine is. It may not be perfect just as all the others aren't. The reality is getting the vaccine reduces the chance of contracting the disease and if you do catch it chances are you won't have a severe case. Here in VT approximately 80% have the jab and our Covid numbers have been among the best in the country. Even so our ICU's are full of non vaccinated Covid patients. Take the obvious political bias out of this and just consider the medical facts. Fighting against something that will help you doesn't make sense to me.
If this is found to be constitutional you'll see homeschooling numbers skyrocket. None of my kids will allow their kids (my granddkids) to be jabbed with an experimental "vaccine". There is already talk of moving out of this state if necessary.

FU Newsome.
Originally Posted by champlain_islander
I don't understand what all the opposition to the vaccine is. It may not be perfect just as all the others aren't. The reality is getting the vaccine reduces the chance of contracting the disease and if you do catch it chances are you won't have a severe case. Here in VT approximately 80% have the jab and our Covid numbers have been among the best in the country. Even so our ICU's are full of non vaccinated Covid patients. Take the obvious political bias out of this and just consider the medical facts. Fighting against something that will help you doesn't make sense to me.

It's not just about a shakey, hastily produced drug, it's about the freedom of choice. Freedom is everything.
Originally Posted by champlain_islander
I don't understand what all the opposition to the vaccine is. It may not be perfect just as all the others aren't. The reality is getting the vaccine reduces the chance of contracting the disease and if you do catch it chances are you won't have a severe case. Here in VT approximately 80% have the jab and our Covid numbers have been among the best in the country. Even so our ICU's are full of non vaccinated Covid patients. Take the obvious political bias out of this and just consider the medical facts. Fighting against something that will help you doesn't make sense to me.

Well, the information we have been receiving is so conflicting...how can anybody draw a logical conclusion.? We have all heard of the inaccuracies of the 'quick covid test', false positives out the wazoo. We have heard of massive medicare fraud on a scale never seen before, listing covid as a cause of death...we have heard hospitals receive an additional 36,000 for covid cases. We have heard stories of high crossover numbers. We see Sweden, which did absolutely nothing, with better numbers than we have in the US. There appear to be a lot of US healthcare workers that aren't buying into this, why? I got 2 Pfizers...but am I better off than if I had opted out? I really don't know...I'm old, maybe I should croak, but my grandsons? Does big Pharma give a damn, or are they in it for the billions? Big Pharma didn't look too good after the opioid scandal broke. I don't know or who to believe.
Oh this is awesome.
Posted By: Riverc Re: Calif mandatory vax, K-12? - 10/02/21
Originally Posted by champlain_islander
I don't understand what all the opposition to the vaccine is. It may not be perfect just as all the others aren't. The reality is getting the vaccine reduces the chance of contracting the disease and if you do catch it chances are you won't have a severe case. Here in VT approximately 80% have the jab and our Covid numbers have been among the best in the country. Even so our ICU's are full of non vaccinated Covid patients. Take the obvious political bias out of this and just consider the medical facts. Fighting against something that will help you doesn't make sense to me.


Everyone should have a choice to take or not take the vaccine. No one should be forced to put something in their body they don't want. Newsom has no right forcing children to take this vaccine that piece of sh*t that cocky control freak needs a good ass whipping.
Posted By: rong Re: Calif mandatory vax, K-12? - 10/02/21
But I believe he has an opt out in place for the teachers,but mandatory for the chillins.
Originally Posted by rong
But I believe he has an opt out in place for the teachers,but mandatory for the chillins.

Of course... Just like Hiden Biden's mandate for "all" Federal workers exempted congress critters and their minions...
Posted By: NH K9 Re: Calif mandatory vax, K-12? - 10/02/21
Originally Posted by champlain_islander
I don't understand what all the opposition to the vaccine is. It may not be perfect just as all the others aren't. The reality is getting the vaccine reduces the chance of contracting the disease and if you do catch it chances are you won't have a severe case. Here in VT approximately 80% have the jab and our Covid numbers have been among the best in the country. Even so our ICU's are full of non vaccinated Covid patients. Take the obvious political bias out of this and just consider the medical facts. Fighting against something that will help you doesn't make sense to me.

Understood, but y'all did it voluntarily.
The numbers in NH are behind VT, but not too far (I think NH is hovering right below 70%, I haven't bothered to look in a bit). Those numbers are under Sununnu, who hasn't been pushing much at all. he's left masking decisions to the local school boards, etc . There's a world of difference between that scenario and either a State of the Feds mandating something
In the end, another person's choice doesn't have to make sense to you, but you have to accept it.

George
Originally Posted by champlain_islander
I don't understand what all the opposition to the vaccine is. It may not be perfect just as all the others aren't. The reality is getting the vaccine reduces the chance of contracting the disease and if you do catch it chances are you won't have a severe case. Here in VT approximately 80% have the jab and our Covid numbers have been among the best in the country. Even so our ICU's are full of non vaccinated Covid patients. Take the obvious political bias out of this and just consider the medical facts. Fighting against something that will help you doesn't make sense to me.



Where are you getting "the facts"?
I don't believe our local news reporting on "full ICU due to Covid" like their hair is on fire. The reports I get from my nurse friends within the same hospital system tell the story quite differently.
Full ICU here is 20 beds...but they fail to mention it, leaving you to think it's much more. They just tell you to run to get vaxed.

Echoing flintlocke, the hospitals and clinics are getting a pile of money for covid patients. It's become so obvious, the locals in our little county won't bother going into the clinic here. The clinic doesn't even want to deal with you unless you test positive.

And anyone that spouts off with, "the FDA approved it" can stick it. Look at all the drugs that went through the FDA that took years to get approved now have horrible effects and class action suits. But a vax gets approved in mere months..no thanks. And I definitely wouldn't want it injected into young children.
Posted By: AKduck Re: Calif mandatory vax, K-12? - 10/02/21
Originally Posted by champlain_islander
I don't understand what all the opposition to the vaccine is. It may not be perfect just as all the others aren't. The reality is getting the vaccine reduces the chance of contracting the disease and if you do catch it chances are you won't have a severe case. Here in VT approximately 80% have the jab and our Covid numbers have been among the best in the country. Even so our ICU's are full of non vaccinated Covid patients. Take the obvious political bias out of this and just consider the medical facts. Fighting against something that will help you doesn't make sense to me.


Reality is....that is simply your opinion. Your numbers may or may not be accurate. My observation has been that just as many vaccinated have hit the dirt locally as non vaccinated.
Originally Posted by champlain_islander
I don't understand what all the opposition to the vaccine is. It may not be perfect just as all the others aren't. The reality is getting the vaccine reduces the chance of contracting the disease and if you do catch it chances are you won't have a severe case. Here in VT approximately 80% have the jab and our Covid numbers have been among the best in the country. Even so our ICU's are full of non vaccinated Covid patients. Take the obvious political bias out of this and just consider the medical facts. Fighting against something that will help you doesn't make sense to me.



Gestapo much???
Originally Posted by Morewood
If this is found to be constitutional you'll see homeschooling numbers skyrocket. None of my kids will allow their kids (my granddkids) to be jabbed with an experimental "vaccine". There is already talk of moving out of this state if necessary.

FU Newsome.

Good for you. Too many just give in because it is easy. F the goverment.
Posted By: AKduck Re: Calif mandatory vax, K-12? - 10/02/21
And yet another reason to avoid living in liberal hives.
Posted By: ol_mike Re: Calif mandatory vax, K-12? - 10/02/21
Originally Posted by Springcove
Originally Posted by champlain_islander
I don't understand what all the opposition to the vaccine is. It may not be perfect just as all the others aren't. The reality is getting the vaccine reduces the chance of contracting the disease and if you do catch it chances are you won't have a severe case. Here in VT approximately 80% have the jab and our Covid numbers have been among the best in the country. Even so our ICU's are full of non vaccinated Covid patients. Take the obvious political bias out of this and just consider the medical facts. Fighting against something that will help you doesn't make sense to me.



Gestapo much???


He's a Trump hater !!!
Bernie guy?
Originally Posted by champlain_islander
I don't understand what all the opposition to the vaccine is. It may not be perfect just as all the others aren't. The reality is getting the vaccine reduces the chance of contracting the disease and if you do catch it chances are you won't have a severe case. Here in VT approximately 80% have the jab and our Covid numbers have been among the best in the country. Even so our ICU's are full of non vaccinated Covid patients. Take the obvious political bias out of this and just consider the medical facts. Fighting against something that will help you doesn't make sense to me.


So you actually believe this? "Even so our ICU's are full of non vaccinated Covid patients" or are you just spitting out leftist idiot talking points?
Posted By: 280Rem1 Re: Calif mandatory vax, K-12? - 10/02/21
Originally Posted by champlain_islander
I don't understand what all the opposition to the vaccine is. It may not be perfect just as all the others aren't. The reality is getting the vaccine reduces the chance of contracting the disease and if you do catch it chances are you won't have a severe case. Here in VT approximately 80% have the jab and our Covid numbers have been among the best in the country. Even so our ICU's are full of non vaccinated Covid patients. Take the obvious political bias out of this and just consider the medical facts. Fighting against something that will "KILL" you doesn't make sense to me.


Fixed that last sentence for you.
Posted By: szihn Re: Calif mandatory vax, K-12? - 10/02/21
The old tale about "boiling a frog slowly" is applicable. Frogs that jump out (or even fight back) are left along longer. Frogs that easily surrender get the focus of the attention. It would be hard to find more concentrated apathy or cowardice then the nest-beds of "liberalism, so Kalifornia is going to be one of the 1st places subjected to the new system of slavery. A slave is a slave because he is too cowardly to take control over his own mind. The body follows the mind. The mind doesn't follow the body. So the "Left Coast and most of the eastern sea board are ripe for picking by the Satanic dictators and the people will go along with about anything. How do I know? Because they already have. That's why they live by permission now and have for years.

Cowards can't be free, nor should they be.
Posted By: callnum Re: Calif mandatory vax, K-12? - 10/02/21
You old hens are still wringing your hands over the vax?

LOL
Originally Posted by callnum
You old hens are still wringing your hands over the vax?

LOL


You still wringing your hands over every vax thread on this forum?

LOL
Posted By: efw Re: Calif mandatory vax, K-12? - 10/02/21
Just following “The Science…”
Originally Posted by flintlocke
Originally Posted by champlain_islander
I don't understand what all the opposition to the vaccine is. It may not be perfect just as all the others aren't. The reality is getting the vaccine reduces the chance of contracting the disease and if you do catch it chances are you won't have a severe case. Here in VT approximately 80% have the jab and our Covid numbers have been among the best in the country. Even so our ICU's are full of non vaccinated Covid patients. Take the obvious political bias out of this and just consider the medical facts. Fighting against something that will help you doesn't make sense to me.

Well, the information we have been receiving is so conflicting...how can anybody draw a logical conclusion.? We have all heard of the inaccuracies of the 'quick covid test', false positives out the wazoo. We have heard of massive medicare fraud on a scale never seen before, listing covid as a cause of death...we have heard hospitals receive an additional 36,000 for covid cases. We have heard stories of high crossover numbers. We see Sweden, which did absolutely nothing, with better numbers than we have in the US. There appear to be a lot of US healthcare workers that aren't buying into this, why? I got 2 Pfizers...but am I better off than if I had opted out? I really don't know...I'm old, maybe I should croak, but my grandsons? Does big Pharma give a damn, or are they in it for the billions? Big Pharma didn't look too good after the opioid scandal broke. I don't know or who to believe.



Yep!
Posted By: Dutch Re: Calif mandatory vax, K-12? - 10/03/21
Originally Posted by champlain_islander
I don't understand what all the opposition to the vaccine is. It may not be perfect just as all the others aren't. The reality is getting the vaccine reduces the chance of contracting the disease and if you do catch it chances are you won't have a severe case. Here in VT approximately 80% have the jab and our Covid numbers have been among the best in the country. Even so our ICU's are full of non vaccinated Covid patients. Take the obvious political bias out of this and just consider the medical facts. Fighting against something that will help you doesn't make sense to me.


Statistically, there is ZERO risk to individuals from C19.

That is not debatable, that is simply the truth.

Please explain why we should subject individuals to unnecessary medical procedures which only have an "emergency approval"?

And while you're at it, please point to the emergency that is being addressed?
Posted By: efw Re: Calif mandatory vax, K-12? - 10/03/21
Originally Posted by champlain_islander
I don't understand what all the opposition to the vaccine is. It may not be perfect just as all the others aren't. The reality is getting the vaccine reduces the chance of contracting the disease and if you do catch it chances are you won't have a severe case. Here in VT approximately 80% have the jab and our Covid numbers have been among the best in the country. Even so our ICU's are full of non vaccinated Covid patients. Take the obvious political bias out of this and just consider the medical facts. Fighting against something that will help you doesn't make sense to me.


This thread is about a MANDATE for CHILDREN.

“Not perfect”? Statistically there is a greater chance for a child to react badly to the shot than COVID.

Drs all over the country have said there is no reason for kids to get the shot, but due to the political power of the teachers unions they’re doing this.
Kommiefornia is past liberating without gunfire.
Posted By: JSTUART Re: Calif mandatory vax, K-12? - 10/03/21


Fellas, have a look at the Canuck thread below. One thing Commonwealth countries do not do is set food prices and arbitrarily confiscate private property...unless in times of war.
Originally Posted by champlain_islander
I don't understand what all the opposition to the vaccine is. It may not be perfect just as all the others aren't. The reality is getting the vaccine reduces the chance of contracting the disease and if you do catch it chances are you won't have a severe case. Here in VT approximately 80% have the jab and our Covid numbers have been among the best in the country. Even so our ICU's are full of non vaccinated Covid patients. Take the obvious political bias out of this and just consider the medical facts. Fighting against something that will help you doesn't make sense to me.



I have always wondered how these two claims can be proven, especially the latter.
Posted By: deflave Re: Calif mandatory vax, K-12? - 10/03/21
Originally Posted by muleshoe
Originally Posted by champlain_islander
I don't understand what all the opposition to the vaccine is. It may not be perfect just as all the others aren't. The reality is getting the vaccine reduces the chance of contracting the disease and if you do catch it chances are you won't have a severe case. Here in VT approximately 80% have the jab and our Covid numbers have been among the best in the country. Even so our ICU's are full of non vaccinated Covid patients. Take the obvious political bias out of this and just consider the medical facts. Fighting against something that will help you doesn't make sense to me.



I have always wondered how these two claims can be proven, especially the latter.


It’s the mantra of idiots.
Posted By: deflave Re: Calif mandatory vax, K-12? - 10/03/21
Originally Posted by callnum
You old hens are still wringing your hands over the vax?

LOL


^^^Still scared.^^^

LOL
Posted By: victoro Re: Calif mandatory vax, K-12? - 10/03/21
Originally Posted by champlain_islander
I don't understand what all the opposition to the vaccine is. It may not be perfect just as all the others aren't. The reality is getting the vaccine reduces the chance of contracting the disease and if you do catch it chances are you won't have a severe case. Here in VT approximately 80% have the jab and our Covid numbers have been among the best in the country. Even so our ICU's are full of non vaccinated Covid patients. Take the obvious political bias out of this and just consider the medical facts. Fighting against something that will help you doesn't make sense to me.



"Take the obvious political bias out of this and just consider the medical facts."

You have absolutely no idea what the medical facts are and none of what you say is true. If you had looked at the vaccine maker's websites and read about their covid vaccines before the FDA gave then emergency approval you would have found that none of the vaccine makers claimed their vaccine would give you immunity (and they don't).

The CDC/FDA is still using the bogus PCR tests to create false positive results and the new one coming out next year is even worse.

Doctors are pressured not to give covid patients early treatment so they will end up in hospitals and are more likely to die.

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