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Originally Posted by champlain_islander
I don't understand what all the opposition to the vaccine is. It may not be perfect just as all the others aren't. The reality is getting the vaccine reduces the chance of contracting the disease and if you do catch it chances are you won't have a severe case. Here in VT approximately 80% have the jab and our Covid numbers have been among the best in the country. Even so our ICU's are full of non vaccinated Covid patients. Take the obvious political bias out of this and just consider the medical facts. Fighting against something that will help you doesn't make sense to me.


So you actually believe this? "Even so our ICU's are full of non vaccinated Covid patients" or are you just spitting out leftist idiot talking points?


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Originally Posted by champlain_islander
I don't understand what all the opposition to the vaccine is. It may not be perfect just as all the others aren't. The reality is getting the vaccine reduces the chance of contracting the disease and if you do catch it chances are you won't have a severe case. Here in VT approximately 80% have the jab and our Covid numbers have been among the best in the country. Even so our ICU's are full of non vaccinated Covid patients. Take the obvious political bias out of this and just consider the medical facts. Fighting against something that will "KILL" you doesn't make sense to me.


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The old tale about "boiling a frog slowly" is applicable. Frogs that jump out (or even fight back) are left along longer. Frogs that easily surrender get the focus of the attention. It would be hard to find more concentrated apathy or cowardice then the nest-beds of "liberalism, so Kalifornia is going to be one of the 1st places subjected to the new system of slavery. A slave is a slave because he is too cowardly to take control over his own mind. The body follows the mind. The mind doesn't follow the body. So the "Left Coast and most of the eastern sea board are ripe for picking by the Satanic dictators and the people will go along with about anything. How do I know? Because they already have. That's why they live by permission now and have for years.

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You old hens are still wringing your hands over the vax?

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Originally Posted by callnum
You old hens are still wringing your hands over the vax?

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You still wringing your hands over every vax thread on this forum?

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I don't understand what all the opposition to the vaccine is. It may not be perfect just as all the others aren't. The reality is getting the vaccine reduces the chance of contracting the disease and if you do catch it chances are you won't have a severe case. Here in VT approximately 80% have the jab and our Covid numbers have been among the best in the country. Even so our ICU's are full of non vaccinated Covid patients. Take the obvious political bias out of this and just consider the medical facts. Fighting against something that will help you doesn't make sense to me.

Well, the information we have been receiving is so conflicting...how can anybody draw a logical conclusion.? We have all heard of the inaccuracies of the 'quick covid test', false positives out the wazoo. We have heard of massive medicare fraud on a scale never seen before, listing covid as a cause of death...we have heard hospitals receive an additional 36,000 for covid cases. We have heard stories of high crossover numbers. We see Sweden, which did absolutely nothing, with better numbers than we have in the US. There appear to be a lot of US healthcare workers that aren't buying into this, why? I got 2 Pfizers...but am I better off than if I had opted out? I really don't know...I'm old, maybe I should croak, but my grandsons? Does big Pharma give a damn, or are they in it for the billions? Big Pharma didn't look too good after the opioid scandal broke. I don't know or who to believe.



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Originally Posted by champlain_islander
I don't understand what all the opposition to the vaccine is. It may not be perfect just as all the others aren't. The reality is getting the vaccine reduces the chance of contracting the disease and if you do catch it chances are you won't have a severe case. Here in VT approximately 80% have the jab and our Covid numbers have been among the best in the country. Even so our ICU's are full of non vaccinated Covid patients. Take the obvious political bias out of this and just consider the medical facts. Fighting against something that will help you doesn't make sense to me.


Statistically, there is ZERO risk to individuals from C19.

That is not debatable, that is simply the truth.

Please explain why we should subject individuals to unnecessary medical procedures which only have an "emergency approval"?

And while you're at it, please point to the emergency that is being addressed?


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Originally Posted by champlain_islander
I don't understand what all the opposition to the vaccine is. It may not be perfect just as all the others aren't. The reality is getting the vaccine reduces the chance of contracting the disease and if you do catch it chances are you won't have a severe case. Here in VT approximately 80% have the jab and our Covid numbers have been among the best in the country. Even so our ICU's are full of non vaccinated Covid patients. Take the obvious political bias out of this and just consider the medical facts. Fighting against something that will help you doesn't make sense to me.


This thread is about a MANDATE for CHILDREN.

“Not perfect”? Statistically there is a greater chance for a child to react badly to the shot than COVID.

Drs all over the country have said there is no reason for kids to get the shot, but due to the political power of the teachers unions they’re doing this.

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Fellas, have a look at the Canuck thread below. One thing Commonwealth countries do not do is set food prices and arbitrarily confiscate private property...unless in times of war.


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Originally Posted by champlain_islander
I don't understand what all the opposition to the vaccine is. It may not be perfect just as all the others aren't. The reality is getting the vaccine reduces the chance of contracting the disease and if you do catch it chances are you won't have a severe case. Here in VT approximately 80% have the jab and our Covid numbers have been among the best in the country. Even so our ICU's are full of non vaccinated Covid patients. Take the obvious political bias out of this and just consider the medical facts. Fighting against something that will help you doesn't make sense to me.



I have always wondered how these two claims can be proven, especially the latter.


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Originally Posted by muleshoe
Originally Posted by champlain_islander
I don't understand what all the opposition to the vaccine is. It may not be perfect just as all the others aren't. The reality is getting the vaccine reduces the chance of contracting the disease and if you do catch it chances are you won't have a severe case. Here in VT approximately 80% have the jab and our Covid numbers have been among the best in the country. Even so our ICU's are full of non vaccinated Covid patients. Take the obvious political bias out of this and just consider the medical facts. Fighting against something that will help you doesn't make sense to me.



I have always wondered how these two claims can be proven, especially the latter.


It’s the mantra of idiots.


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Originally Posted by callnum
You old hens are still wringing your hands over the vax?

LOL


^^^Still scared.^^^

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Originally Posted by champlain_islander
I don't understand what all the opposition to the vaccine is. It may not be perfect just as all the others aren't. The reality is getting the vaccine reduces the chance of contracting the disease and if you do catch it chances are you won't have a severe case. Here in VT approximately 80% have the jab and our Covid numbers have been among the best in the country. Even so our ICU's are full of non vaccinated Covid patients. Take the obvious political bias out of this and just consider the medical facts. Fighting against something that will help you doesn't make sense to me.



"Take the obvious political bias out of this and just consider the medical facts."

You have absolutely no idea what the medical facts are and none of what you say is true. If you had looked at the vaccine maker's websites and read about their covid vaccines before the FDA gave then emergency approval you would have found that none of the vaccine makers claimed their vaccine would give you immunity (and they don't).

The CDC/FDA is still using the bogus PCR tests to create false positive results and the new one coming out next year is even worse.

Doctors are pressured not to give covid patients early treatment so they will end up in hospitals and are more likely to die.

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