Isa 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! 21 Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes, and shrewd in their own sight! 22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine, and valiant men in mixing strong drink, 23 who acquit the guilty for a bribe, and deprive the innocent of his right! 24 Therefore, as the tongue of fire devours the stubble, and as dry grass sinks down in the flame, so their root will be as rottenness, and their blossom go up like dust; for they have rejected the law of the LORD of hosts, and have despised the word of the Holy One of Israel. 25 Therefore the anger of the LORD was kindled against his people, and he stretched out his hand against them and struck them, and the mountains quaked; and their corpses were as refuse in the midst of the streets. For all this his anger has not turned away, and his hand is stretched out still.
Why would someone defend this? This decision by these men in long dresses should please the 10 or so that race to defend bisexual, homo, cross dressers on the Campfire here:..
The normal Bible believing Christians and American conservatives should mark them and avoid them. What a bunch of out of the closet catholic bishops. Anyone who goes along with that should be marked and avoided.
"Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple."
WHO CARES? Does it effect you? I guess you hypocrites only believe in the "Freedoms" you believe in. Are you all scared you are going to start sucking dicks now all of a sudden.
WHO CARES? Does it effect you? I guess you hypocrites only believe in the "Freedoms" you believe in. Are you all scared you are going to start sucking dicks now all of a sudden.
Any time a so-called Christian group that has any power, perverts the Gospel, I CARE.
WHO CARES? Does it effect you? I guess you hypocrites only believe in the "Freedoms" you believe in. Are you all scared you are going to start sucking dicks now all of a sudden.
God cares. It’s an enumerated sin. You should care enough about your fellow man to declare this instead of normalizing it.
WHO CARES? Does it effect you? I guess you hypocrites only believe in the "Freedoms" you believe in. Are you all scared you are going to start sucking dicks now all of a sudden.
God cares. It’s an enumerated sin. You should care enough about your fellow man to declare this instead of normalizing it.
So let me get this right from you fools! God forgives our sins but only the sins his clergy feels appropriate? Did Jesus not reach out to sinners and teach them the word of god? Isn't every Christians duty to spread the word. What about judgment, isn't that only supposed to be done by GOD?????
Enumerated sin? Hmmm I seem to remember all sins are well sins!
So let me get this right from you fools! God forgives our sins but only the sins his clergy feels appropriate? Did Jesus not reach out to sinners and teach them the word of god? Isn't every Christians duty to spread the word. What about judgment, isn't that only supposed to be done by GOD?????
Enumerated sin? Hmmm I seem to remember all sins are well sins!
The message of the Church should be "Since you are now sorry for your sins, they are forgiven you, now go and sin no more," not "I forgive you, so keep it up."
So let me get this right from you fools! God forgives our sins but only the sins his clergy feels appropriate? Did Jesus not reach out to sinners and teach them the word of god? Isn't every Christians duty to spread the word. What about judgment, isn't that only supposed to be done by GOD?????
Enumerated sin? Hmmm I seem to remember all sins are well sins!
The message should be "Your sins are forgiven you, now go and sin no more," not "I forgive you, so keep it up."
So let me get this right from you fools! God forgives our sins but only the sins his clergy feels appropriate? Did Jesus not reach out to sinners and teach them the word of god? Isn't every Christians duty to spread the word. What about judgment, isn't that only supposed to be done by GOD?????
Enumerated sin? Hmmm I seem to remember all sins are well sins!
The message should be "Your sins are forgiven you, now go and sin no more," not "I forgive you, so keep it up."
You can't get there by shunning them!
Withholding approval of their sin isn't shunning them. They can turn from their sin and return to receiving the Church's and God's blessing.
So let me get this right from you fools! God forgives our sins but only the sins his clergy feels appropriate? Did Jesus not reach out to sinners and teach them the word of god? Isn't every Christians duty to spread the word. What about judgment, isn't that only supposed to be done by GOD?????
Enumerated sin? Hmmm I seem to remember all sins are well sins!
The message should be "Your sins are forgiven you, now go and sin no more," not "I forgive you, so keep it up."
You can't get there by shunning them!
Withholding approval of their sin isn't shunning them. They can turn from their sin and return to receiving the Church's and God's blessing.
Don't be a hypocrite you sin everyday but yet your sins are ok! FOOLS
Any church that closes it's doors to any group of people is not a church of God!
I didn't realize the topic was about Churches closing the doors to sinners. I thought it was about whether the Church should approve of the sin of homosexuality and their pretend marriages.
Any church that closes it's doors to any group of people is not a church of God!
I didn't realize the topic was about Churches closing the doors to sinners. I thought it was about whether the Church should approve of the sin of homosexuality and pretend marriages between same.
Any church that closes it's doors to any group of people is not a church of God!
I didn't realize the topic was about Churches closing the doors to sinners. I thought it was about whether the Church should approve of the sin of homosexuality and pretend marriages between same.
Any church that closes it's doors to any group of people is not a church of God!
I didn't realize the topic was about Churches closing the doors to sinners. I thought it was about whether the Church should approve of the sin of homosexuality and pretend marriages between same.
like I said but your sins are ok!
You're spewing nonsense.
Yes sir, of course I am spewing nonsense it doesn't align with your BS
Don't be a hypocrite you sin everyday but yet your sins are ok! FOOLS
I don't enshrine my sins in a phony ceremony of approval and celebrated, nor do I insist that they are not sins, but rather things to be approved of. That's the difference. See?
More cherry-pickin’. The church is hemorrhaging members, and yet a significant number of ‘Christians’ are ‘still’ more preoccupied and obsessed with homosexuals than homosexuals are...!
ALL sin...missing God’s mark of perfection...can be considered an abomination to God. ALL sin separates us from God. That includes your sin, my sin, and the sins of everyone else, including the sins of those who who cherry-pick the sins of others as somehow being worse than their own.
Paul didn't like homosexuals because he was buggered by the Romans when he was a child.
Some Homosexuals / bisexuals are the only ones attracted to boys. This is true. However, just because Paul wrote against the sins does NOT mean that he was a victim of rape.
Homosexuality is not an approved thing in the Bible. Taking a Holy oath of celibacy is kinda over the top for a homosexual priest, wouldn't you think? The truth is those homosexual Cardinals actually voted for the Jesuit to play Pope. Bishops aren't immune and Parish Priests aren't either. There's going to be Hell to pay for that. Over the long history of the Roman Catholic Church there has been quite a lot of unholy chicanery that went on. One wonders if they'll ever get the mess straight but it would seem it just keeps getting worse.
ALL sin...missing God’s mark of perfection...can be considered an abomination to God. ALL sin separates us from God. That includes your sin, my sin, and the sins of everyone else, including the sins of those who who cherry-pick the sins of others as somehow being worse than their own.
Homosexuality is not an approved thing in the Bible. Taking a Holy oath of celibacy is kinda over the top for a homosexual priest, wouldn't you think? The truth is those homosexual Cardinals actually voted for the Jesuit to play Pope. Bishops aren't immune and Parish Priests aren't either. There's going to be Hell to pay for that. Over the long history of the Roman Catholic Church there has been quite a lot of unholy chicanery that went on. One wonders if they'll ever get the mess straight but it would seem it just keeps getting worse.
So, you think satans minions who are of vipers want to get the mess straight,or do they wish to lead believers away from the truth, Gods word?
You think they couldnt do better if they wanted to? What if they only want to decieve you?
See what kind of fruit the tree produces before partaking of it. How soon did satan lead Gods people astray? People dont believe GOD but do believe satan. People dont think satan is in the church, yet God said many will come in my name. Where do they come in His name? Church. What is His name to believers? Father.
Our Father, who art in heaven....Hallowed be thy name (the name Father). Call none on earth by His name after you become a man.
Homosexuality is not an approved thing in the Bible. Taking a Holy oath of celibacy is kinda over the top for a homosexual priest, wouldn't you think? The truth is those homosexual Cardinals actually voted for the Jesuit to play Pope. Bishops aren't immune and Parish Priests aren't either. There's going to be Hell to pay for that. Over the long history of the Roman Catholic Church there has been quite a lot of unholy chicanery that went on. One wonders if they'll ever get the mess straight but it would seem it just keeps getting worse.
Rain, just so you know, my rant wasnt directed at you. Your post just got me going on the topic.
More cherry-pickin’. The church is hemorrhaging members, and yet a significant number of ‘Christians’ are ‘still’ more preoccupied and obsessed with homosexuals than homosexuals are...!
I think homosexuals are obsessed with something else.
ALL sin...missing God’s mark of perfection...can be considered an abomination to God. ALL sin separates us from God. That includes your sin, my sin, and the sins of everyone else, including the sins of those who who cherry-pick the sins of others as somehow being worse than their own.
1Cor 6:18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. 19 Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20 you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body.
Note that word 'but'. It sets sexual sin apart as being against the Holy Spirit instead of God or Jesus. The only unforgivable sin is against the Spirit. You don't mess with him. This verse indicates that sexual sin is more serious than any others. I wouldn't call that cherry picking, it's scriptural.
ALL sin...missing God’s mark of perfection...can be considered an abomination to God. ALL sin separates us from God. That includes your sin, my sin, and the sins of everyone else, including the sins of those who who cherry-pick the sins of others as somehow being worse than their own.
1Cor 6:18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. 19 Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20 you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body.
Note that word 'but'. It sets sexual sin apart as being against the Holy Spirit instead of God or Jesus. The only unforgivable sin is against the Spirit. You don't mess with him. This verse indicates that sexual sin is more serious than any others. I wouldn't call that cherry picking, it's scriptural.
Same as heterosexual sex outside of marriage, no? Seems like that doesn’t draw the same condemnation. Ultimately, God will do the judging. Aren’t we supposed to love our neighbors as ourselves? Jesus didn’t limit that to only those who measure up to our standards.
So you’re equating sexual immorality with the unforgivable sin of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit...? I’d call that cherry-pickin’ on steroids...! Pickin’ a sin...overwhelmingly homosexuality...and holding it up higher than all the rest (including your owns sins), that’s cherry-pickin’.
To me it’s pretty clear that Paul is pointing out that when you sin sexually you hurt yourself. Not only do you hurt yourself, but at the deepest level imaginable. That’s how it’s different from other sins...because of the effect that it has on you. It stays with you. It will carry with you throughout your entire life. Sexuality is so powerful that if you sin sexually it has the power to turn your life upside down.
ALL sin...missing God’s mark of perfection...can be considered an abomination to God. ALL sin separates us from God. That includes your sin, my sin, and the sins of everyone else, including the sins of those who who cherry-pick the sins of others as somehow being worse than their own.
1Cor 6:18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. 19 Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20 you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body.
Note that word 'but'. It sets sexual sin apart as being against the Holy Spirit instead of God or Jesus. The only unforgivable sin is against the Spirit. You don't mess with him. This verse indicates that sexual sin is more serious than any others. I wouldn't call that cherry picking, it's scriptural.
There's a teaching that I've been hearing that all sin is equal. I don't disagree with the point that all sin separates men from God. However, some sins are specifically refered to as abominations, and other sins are not. There are obvious differences between sins. I'm not talking catholic venial vs mortal sins. That is a dogma of that denomination. Have you studied the reprobate doctrine?
ALL sin...missing God’s mark of perfection...can be considered an abomination to God. ALL sin separates us from God. That includes your sin, my sin, and the sins of everyone else, including the sins of those who who cherry-pick the sins of others as somehow being worse than their own.
1Cor 6:18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. 19 Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20 you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body.
Note that word 'but'. It sets sexual sin apart as being against the Holy Spirit instead of God or Jesus. The only unforgivable sin is against the Spirit. You don't mess with him. This verse indicates that sexual sin is more serious than any others. I wouldn't call that cherry picking, it's scriptural.
Same as heterosexual sex outside of marriage, no? Seems like that doesn’t draw the same condemnation. Ultimately, God will do the judging. Aren’t we supposed to love our neighbors as ourselves? Jesus didn’t limit that to only those who measure up to our standards.
ALL sin...missing God’s mark of perfection...can be considered an abomination to God. ALL sin separates us from God. That includes your sin, my sin, and the sins of everyone else, including the sins of those who who cherry-pick the sins of others as somehow being worse than their own.
1Cor 6:18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. 19 Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20 you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body.
Note that word 'but'. It sets sexual sin apart as being against the Holy Spirit instead of God or Jesus. The only unforgivable sin is against the Spirit. You don't mess with him. This verse indicates that sexual sin is more serious than any others. I wouldn't call that cherry picking, it's scriptural.
There's a teaching that I've been hearing that all sin is equal. I don't disagree with the point that all sin separates men from God. However, some sins are specifically refered to as abominations, and other sins are not. There are obvious differences between sins. I'm not talking catholic venial vs mortal sins. That is a dogma of that denomination. Have you studied the reprobate doctrine?
It was an abomination when you fugked your neighbor’s dog
ALL sin...missing God’s mark of perfection...can be considered an abomination to God. ALL sin separates us from God. That includes your sin, my sin, and the sins of everyone else, including the sins of those who who cherry-pick the sins of others as somehow being worse than their own.
1Cor 6:18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. 19 Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20 you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body.
Note that word 'but'. It sets sexual sin apart as being against the Holy Spirit instead of God or Jesus. The only unforgivable sin is against the Spirit. You don't mess with him. This verse indicates that sexual sin is more serious than any others. I wouldn't call that cherry picking, it's scriptural.
There's a teaching that I've been hearing that all sin is equal. I don't disagree with the point that all sin separates men from God. However, some sins are specifically refered to as abominations, and other sins are not. There are obvious differences between sins. I'm not talking catholic venial vs mortal sins. That is a dogma of that denomination. Have you studied the reprobate doctrine?
It was an abomination when you fugked your neighbor’s dog
TWICE
Was it a male, or female dog? There may be differing levels of sin.
Methodist allowed homos to preach starting about 10 years ago And recognized gay marriage too
Wrong!
Yes they did. Check out the Methodist Reverend Ann Gordon who became the Reverend Drew Phoenix. I read about her/his conversion in a news letter when my mother was serving as secretary at her UMC. After that she/he moved to Alaska and obtained a wife but got voted down when it tried to get named to some sort of civil rights commission. Quite a sordid affair for a once great Protestant church.
What makes me wonder is how in world does a woman acquire the equipment to be a man?
Methodist allowed homos to preach starting about 10 years ago And recognized gay marriage too
Wrong!
Yes they did. Check out the Methodist Reverend Ann Gordon who became the Reverend Drew Phoenix. I read about her/his conversion in a news letter when my mother was serving as secretary at her UMC. After that she/he moved to Alaska and obtained a wife but got voted down when it tried to get named to some sort of civil rights commission. Quite a sordid affair for a once great Protestant church.
What makes me wonder is how in world does a woman acquire the equipment to be a man?
That's a question for bobbi brown aka Bob..... Favored pronoun, "they."
Methodist allowed homos to preach starting about 10 years ago And recognized gay marriage too
Wrong!
Yes they did. Check out the Methodist Reverend Ann Gordon who became the Reverend Drew Phoenix. I read about her/his conversion in a news letter when my mother was serving as secretary at her UMC. After that she/he moved to Alaska and obtained a wife but got voted down when it tried to get named to some sort of civil rights commission. Quite a sordid affair for a once great Protestant church.
What makes me wonder is how in world does a woman acquire the equipment to be a man?
That's a question for bobbi brown aka Bob..... Favored pronoun, "they."
Show the FIRE where the neighbor’s dog touched you
Methodist allowed homos to preach starting about 10 years ago And recognized gay marriage too
Wrong!
Yes they did. Check out the Methodist Reverend Ann Gordon who became the Reverend Drew Phoenix. I read about her/his conversion in a news letter when my mother was serving as secretary at her UMC. After that she/he moved to Alaska and obtained a wife but got voted down when it tried to get named to some sort of civil rights commission. Quite a sordid affair for a once great Protestant church.
What makes me wonder is how in world does a woman acquire the equipment to be a man?
As an organization, the UMC voted gay marriage and gay clergy down. This has caused a major rift within the church, with a split likely between the two sides. Most urban UMCs will likely stay with the UMC. Most rural churches will become part of a new Traditional Methodist Church. It is a real mess right now. The UMC should never have picked this fight, as it wasn’t necessary. The liberal side thought they had the votes and forced a showdown with the traditional side. They lost and are pouting, big time.
So you’re equating sexual immorality with the unforgivable sin of blasphemy against the Holy Spirit...? I’d call that cherry-pickin’ on steroids...! Pickin’ a sin...overwhelmingly homosexuality...and holding it up higher than all the rest (including your owns sins), that’s cherry-pickin’.
To me it’s pretty clear that Paul is pointing out that when you sin sexually you hurt yourself. Not only do you hurt yourself, but at the deepest level imaginable. That’s how it’s different from other sins...because of the effect that it has on you. It stays with you. It will carry with you throughout your entire life. Sexuality is so powerful that if you sin sexually it has the power to turn your life upside down.
Your reply is total nonsense. I said nothing of the kind.
ALL sin...missing God’s mark of perfection...can be considered an abomination to God. ALL sin separates us from God. That includes your sin, my sin, and the sins of everyone else, including the sins of those who who cherry-pick the sins of others as somehow being worse than their own.
1Cor 6:18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. 19 Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20 you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body.
Note that word 'but'. It sets sexual sin apart as being against the Holy Spirit instead of God or Jesus. The only unforgivable sin is against the Spirit. You don't mess with him. This verse indicates that sexual sin is more serious than any others. I wouldn't call that cherry picking, it's scriptural.
Same as heterosexual sex outside of marriage, no? Seems like that doesn’t draw the same condemnation. Ultimately, God will do the judging. Aren’t we supposed to love our neighbors as ourselves? Jesus didn’t limit that to only those who measure up to our standards.
If you read all the verses regarding sex, you'll find that they can all be grouped into 2 simple rules: 1. you must be married to your partner 2. your partner must be of the opposite sex Within those rules, there's nothing at all in the Bible restricting what a couple can do in bed. As long as you're married, all's fair in the sack.
All sex outside of those rules is sinful. Now it's becoming commonplace for unmarried couples to live together and it's being accepted by the churches. The churches are wrong. God strictly prohibits cohabitation. They'll be among the luke warm churches in Rev that will be spit out.
ALL sin...missing God’s mark of perfection...can be considered an abomination to God. ALL sin separates us from God. That includes your sin, my sin, and the sins of everyone else, including the sins of those who who cherry-pick the sins of others as somehow being worse than their own.
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
1Cor 6:18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. 19 Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20 you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your body.
Note that word 'but'. It sets sexual sin apart as being against the Holy Spirit instead of God or Jesus. The only unforgivable sin is against the Spirit. You don't mess with him. This verse indicates that sexual sin is more serious than any others. I wouldn't call that cherry picking, it's scriptural.
Priest just la couple of Sundays ago said marriage is between a man and a woman. Even wrote it in the bulletin to make sure it was read. Of course it was in Wyoming and not Germany.
Accepting perverts in your church is a sticky problem. I have come to conclusion they should be accepted and watched for evidence that they are recruiting especially keeping them clear of kids. The pastor and an elder official of the church might do well to hold a private meeting and explain to such person they are on a tight leash.
As to all this talk of giving official recognition to marriage outside the normal boundaries of natural male to natural female the Christian church needs to say no way are they ratifying such a union. Sodom wasn't destroyed because everyone there were homo rapists and the tribe of Benjamin wasn't destroyed because everyone there raped and killed that Levite Priest's wife. They were destroyed for giving cover to very evil people just like we are doing today in this formerly great country.
I didn't but in retrospect it makes perfect sense! For the record, I also thought we would win the election so I guess I shouldn't make predictions anymore.....
I didn't but in retrospect it makes perfect sense! For the record, I also thought we would win the election so I guess I shouldn't make predictions anymore.....
I didn't but in retrospect it makes perfect sense! For the record, I also thought we would win the election so I guess I shouldn't make predictions anymore.....
Umm, we did win should have won......
In a country with FREE AND FAIR elections you would be correct but in the United States you only need to belong to the corrupt Democratic Party and generate more illegal ballots than your opponent and not get caught.
In a country with FREE AND FAIR elections you would be correct but in the United States you only need to belong to the corrupt Democratic Party and generate more illegal ballots than your opponent and not get caught.
They got caught. In fact, they did it in open view of the nation. It's just that no one in authority did anything about it.