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Outbreak of Pigeon Fever at BLM wild horse corrals near Susanville CA. Taxpayers will be paying for the touchy feely programs of the 'love the wildhorses to death' crowd..once that [bleep] gets in the soil, that million dollar facility will be useless for years. Wild Horse Annie, may you burn in hell you idiot.
Saw that in our local paper this past Thursday. Don't know if any of the Devil's Garden horses have been sent there yet from this roundup, hopefully they're being held at our local site. Maybe they can adopt them out before they are scheduled to be shipped to Litchfield?

Complete and utter scheidtshow now.
Even though my kids are out of the beef industry, I still keep loose track of what is going on...it ain't good, adoptions and sales are up but they aren't making a dent in the wild horse population.
It costs the taxpayers 12,000 bucks to vaccinate a mare for birth control over her life, it costs us about 3,200 for surgical sterilization, I don't think that includes gathering costs, copters are expensive, and water traps only work well in dry years. Everything they've tried is unsustainable since the private sector was taken out of the picture in the 60's. Even BLM horse numbers are questionable...they say 88,000, but in one gather in Nevada last year, the horses gathered were 25 times greater than the published BLM numbers. So, they are losing the game. Is there ANYTHING the government does well?
Originally Posted by flintlocke
Is there ANYTHING the government does well?


Yes: IRS audits, pre-dawn raids by the FBI, civil asset forfeiture by badged highway bandits, and trampling our rights in general.
The wild horse and marine mammals acts were acts of incredible stupidity by our congress. No forethought at all as to what would happen when the animals were saved but just keep on breeding. Now both are seriously overpopulated and we can't do anything about it because congress is controlled by liberals who hide in WDC and never see the damage done by them.
I hear this uncontrolled breeding is a problem in Chicago and Detroit too.
Originally Posted by flintlocke
I hear this uncontrolled breeding is a problem in Chicago and Detroit too.

Don't stop there,

pick a city, any city.

Hell, even here in rural white NE Cali one sees teenage girls with big bellies or a child in her arms at the local Holiday Market. Every day.
Originally Posted by flintlocke
Is there ANYTHING the government does well?

They seem to be able to steal from you rather efficiently.
FERAL horses....
Originally Posted by fburgtx
FERAL horses....



Yep. Ain’t no such thing as a wild horse in the U.S.
they need a bounty on them.
Originally Posted by stxhunter
they need a bounty on them.


They tried it on the Rez but too many horse huggers threw a fit.
Bounty?
Hell no!


Let people catch them and keep them.
Then let them process them for food, and market it.
Maybe allow/require feeding it to prisoners.

Horses get taken out at no cost, maybe a small fee creates revenue.
Prisoners get fed a safe food product.
Pressure is taken off beef prices for the masses.

Beef producers will get screwed. Probably.
Shouldn't, but it's what packers do.
Seems they make good coyote bait if one drops dead. Not that I would have any personal experience, just hearsay.......
Originally Posted by stxhunter
they need a bounty on them.


Yes. They are just a bigger version of feral hogs......
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
The wild horse and marine mammals acts were acts of incredible stupidity by our congress.


I couldn't agree more!!!
Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Bounty?
Hell no!


Let people catch them and keep them.
Then let them process them for food, and market it.
Maybe allow/require feeding it to prisoners.

Horses get taken out at no cost, maybe a small fee creates revenue.
Prisoners get fed a safe food product.
Pressure is taken off beef prices for the masses.

Beef producers will get screwed. Probably.
Shouldn't, but it's what packers do.


We did not have a problem with feral horse populations when they were a staple portion of Alpo.

The populations of fluffy poodle dogs in America is ever growing and would love to eat horse.
Bo Derek does NOT approve of some of the comments on this thread.
Originally Posted by gonehuntin
Bo Derek does NOT approve of some of the comments on this thread.


Nor does Madeline Pickens.
Originally Posted by CowEater
Originally Posted by gonehuntin
Bo Derek does NOT approve of some of the comments on this thread.


Nor does Madeline Pickens.


That old bat still alive?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/lawsui...ickens-asked-chef-for-black-people-food/

RENO, Nev. -- Madeleine Pickens wanted the African-American chef she recruited from the country club she owns in Southern California to cook “black people food” -- not “white people food” -- at her rural Nevada dude ranch and wild horse sanctuary, according to a federal lawsuit accusing her of racial discrimination.

Armand Appling says the wealthy philanthropist and ex-wife of Oklahoma energy tycoon T. Boone Pickens told him fried chicken, BBQ ribs and corn bread would be perfect for the tourists who pay nearly $2,000 a night to stay in plush cottages, ride horses and take Wild West “safaris” on ATVs at her Mustang Monument Wild Horse Eco-Resort.

Appling alleges he was fired 2014 in retaliation for complaining about a hostile work environment. He says Pickens’ stereotypical references were commonplace at the Elko County ranch stretching across 900 square miles on the edge of the Ruby Mountains about 50 miles west of the Utah line.

Among other things, he says Pickens, who is white, instructed him to terminate two other black kitchen staffers -- one she referred to as her “bull” or “ox” and another who had “too much personality.” He says she told him they didn’t “look like people we have working at the country club” and didn’t “fit the image” of the staff she wanted at the ranch.

Pickens’ lawyers argue that even if all the allegations are true, none of her comments were racially motivated. At worst, Pickens’ remarks “reflect a non-racial personality conflict and amount to discourtesy, rudeness or lack of sensitivity,” they wrote in recent court filings.

U.S. District Judge Miranda Du said during a hearing in Reno last week that Appling’s lawyers have failed so far to prove the sort of racial hostility needed to win such a civil rights claim. She dismissed the original lawsuit that was filed in February but gave them until Jan. 13 to refile an amended complaint seeking unspecified damages from Pickens’ nonprofit, Save America’s Mustangs.

“It takes a lot to prove these allegations,” Du told California attorney Willie Williams on Thursday.

Du agreed with Pickens’ lawyer, Dora Lane of Reno, that the only comment that specifically referred to race was the reference to “black people food.”

Lane said categorizing foods by ethnicity is commonplace in the restaurant industry. Some restaurants serve Mexican food, others Chinese or Thai food, she said.

“The suggestion that such categorizations are inherently offensive is nonsense,” Lane argued in earlier court documents. “This is especially true here, given that Pickens’ alleged comments actually reflect a preference for ‘black people food’ rather than a racial animas against ‘black people’ or ‘black people food.’”

Williams said Pickens’ comments about the fired employees “not fitting in” reinforces a long history of African-Americans not being allowed into elite, private-club settings. Pickens owns the exclusive Del Mar Country Club north of San Diego where Appling worked before she hired him for a 5-month stint in Nevada.

“In many cases, the people fighting to keep African-Americans out of these private clubs would use code phrases like ‘they do not fit the image,’” Williams said in court documents. He added the use of the words “ox” and “bull” implies ownership of property, given “America’s long history of slavery where they were considered personal property of their owners.”

Lane argued it was a complimentary reference to physical strength and “was not accompanied by any overtly racial slurs.”

“Indeed, Appling does not allege that he ever heard any overtly racial epithets, such as the ‘N-word,’” she wrote in court documents.

But Williams told the judge last week the comments must be viewed in the context of racial stereotypes.

Du agreed that Lane’s arguments focus on the “plain meaning of words” while seemingly ignoring the context of comments made about “African-Americans in history and stereotypes that could give rise to racial animas.”

“If the alleged comments were not directed at him, but others who look like him, it may affect his work environment,” the judge said.
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
We did not have a problem with feral horse populations when they were a staple portion of Alpo.
The populations of fluffy poodle dogs in America is ever growing and would love to eat horse.
It is shameful that the zoo folks have to buy expensive beef to feed their meat eaters and as mentioned Alpo was much better when horse meat was cheap and available. It is hard to get lions and such to eat salad.

What is the problem with horse meat if beef is OK? I understand there is a tofu crowd out there against all meat eating (except by wolves) but I am not addressing them. All that soy estrogen has made them crazeee.
An old co-worker often butchered and sold burger and sausage by work of mouth. A farmer and tied in with a local buyer, he has access to all kind
of animals. Given a chance (price) he would buy anything that was pretty nice, and butcher it. Llama bologna was really good.

Anyway, he was on a kick looking for a nice horse.
I told him I'd love to buy 10# of nice steaks.
His mother caught wind of the plan and talked him out of it,
she was worried about people finding out and the trouble it would cause.
Originally Posted by Hastings
It is shameful that the zoo folks have to buy expensive beef to feed their meat eaters and as mentioned Alpo was much better when horse meat was cheap and available. It is hard to get lions and such to eat salad.

What is the problem with horse meat if beef is OK? I understand there is a tofu crowd out there against all meat eating (except by wolves) but I am not addressing them. All that soy estrogen has made them crazeee.



Interesting that you would mock others’ choice of animals they will or won’t eat. What does your modern interpretation of the Old Testament say about horse flesh?
I was in the Red Desert in Wyoming last week and the "Wild" (feral) horses were thick at the water holes. They ought to start up some horse slaughter houses again. Some folks tried here in Wyoming Th, but the bleeding hearts horse lovers got the ears of certain Representatives & Senators and it got shut down before it started. The Wild Horse & Burro act needs to go away. They ain't wild, they're an invasive species.
BGG,

I don't follow Old Testament law.
Eat the heck out of a pig,
Have 5# of snow crab and 4# of Gulf Shrimp waiting
in the freezer.

So an equine ribeye would be ok.

No idea of Hastings beliefs.
I'm having a hard time finding Tuna friendly dolphin meat anymore.

Bb
Interesting though that the native equine species of North America was wiped out several thousand years before the White man reintroduced it.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
Originally Posted by fburgtx
FERAL horses....



Yep. Ain’t no such thing as a wild horse in the U.S.


100% true An invasive species. It would be fitting if a "Pigeon Fever" wiped them out
Saw my first feral horses over in the desert at Goldfield NV a couple weeks ago. They looked very healthy. Very skittish as soon as they saw my truck they bolted and were long gone in a cloud of dust.
Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
BGG,

I don't follow Old Testament law.
Eat the heck out of a pig,
Have 5# of snow crab and 4# of Gulf Shrimp waiting
in the freezer.

So an equine ribeye would be ok.

No idea of Hastings beliefs.



He’s a gentile that follows Old Testament eating rules lol
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