The discovery of L' Ans aux Meadows proved that the Vikings beat Columbus to the new world, but it was never certain when they got here.

It is still unknown how early they discovered North America, but an interesting new dendochronology study looked at tree rings of timber fragments found at the site, and looked for specific patterns of tree ring growth that resulted from solar radiation events with known dates.

Long story short, the new study of timber fragments from L' Ans aux Meadows establishes that the trees were cut down in 1021 A.D. - exactly 1,000 years ago.

45 years before William the Conqueror landed in England, Vikings were living in North America. Pretty cool.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03972-8

If you think that is cool, I gather you are not familiar with the Runestone found outside of Alexandria Minnesota, in 1898. That precludes Scandanavians in Newfoundland, as far inland as Minnesota. Here is a 8 min video on youtube about the Runestone Museum in Alexandria MN...



I've read things several times in the past also about Viking Ruins or Evidence of Presence in Oklahoma from the same time period.

and I trace our family roots as far back as those Vikings who came to England in 1066 with William the Conqueror, who were given plenty of land by William for their service
in what is now Ipswichshire.

They came to raw dog the Chippewa.

The Vikings have been here that long and still never won a Super Bowl ?

That didn't take long LOL!

If the current Vikings showed up on the fields wearing horned helmets, carrying shields and using swords and axes like their predecessors, they would have a chance.

I was thinking 50 years ago the idea was that the vikings were in Vinland about 950 years ago.

(I better add this before someone like JimboinTnn or Suckermore says "You dummy, that was 1000 years ago. Sheesh. )

This might interest you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_conquest_of_southern_Italy

My people.









Does this mean I’m in line for some $$$? Reparations and all that? My own indigenous treaty? Hunt game whenever, wherever I want? Do I get my own sovereign land? What about a Holiday? I want answers!

And they STILL haven't won a Super Bowl!

Interesting to note that the first French explorers (Champlain) noted the European features the Indians on the east coast of Canada had, in comparison to those of the interior. The Vikings were clearly here for sometime, then absorbed into the various Indian bands.
It is safe to say the same thing happened elsewhere in North America, likely the west coast of North America. Mariner's lost at sea or walking the land bridge into NA.

different Vikings... those were African Vikings, who came to Minnesota and set up a Football team... and collect welfare under a dozen different identities during the off season...

supposingly, it was either Jamestown or Plymouth Rock, that they were greeted by some Indians that spoke English..

Story goes that they had traded regularly with English owned ships, passing thru those waters...

on the other hand, I am remembering this from like 5th grade history class..

so the teacher could have just been pulling a fast one.....

but there were blue eyed "indians" on the East Side of Chesapeake Bay, who did speak English, that were found after Jamestown was settled in 1607.

They were the remains of those that Settled at Roanoke Island in what is now North Carolina, intermixed with the Indians and migrated to the Chesapeake Bay area.
When the first people returned to what was Roanoke Island settlement, all the found was the word Croatan carved on a tree, and the site was in shambles...
Croatan was the local Indian tribe in that area of what is now Virginia and NE North Carolina...

About time some of the 'fire's pet socialists chime in with claims that the legendary Zimbabwean Navy was here before the Vikings.

So how did they prove Vikings cut down the tree and not Native Americans... or others?

My Mom is around 60 percent of a West coast tribe, what I thought was interesting was there was 3 percent Mongol in her ancestry. If I did the math right the Mongols would of been on the West coast not all that long ago historically speaking.

Good question. Apparently the timber pieces were found in an archeological layer of other finds that were definitively Viking, and the wood fragments showed evidence of having been worked with steel edges.

The Vikings had better axes than the Natives. I figured they looked at the fragments and could tell what they were chopped with. Stone vs Steel. That’s my best guess, anyways. 😬

LMAO. That’s some funny schitt right there! 👍🏻

Apparently that is exactly how they know.

A theory I thought plausible....some of the Indians are descended from those from that region (Mongolia) who were escaping Genghis Khan and crossed the land bridge.

This maybe of interest basically vikings didn't have horned helmets. The swedish vikings sailed up the rivers and mostly settled in the Ukraine area. They were called the Rus an arabic term I believe. Thus it became Russia. They founded the Catholic Orthadox Church to unité the people. Many vikings came from other territoires to be merccenarys for the Byzantine King. They were known as the Vangerian guard being personal body guards to the king and were used as strike forces. In recent years viking artifacts have been excavated I own a bearded axe from the Ukraine. As time went on They asemulated into the slavic culture.

This runestone is a great mystery. An article I googled said:

In 1911, Ohman (the discoverer) sold the stone to the Minnesota Historical Society for $10, Norwegian historian Hjalmar Holand claimed Ohman sold it to him. Long story short, Holand took the stone to Europe for analysis. Though there was keen debate over the stone’s authenticity, the majority agreed that the text on the front was written in 19th century Swedish, rather than 14th.

Still, there were others, such as a scientist at the Minnesota Historical Society that subjected the stone to the weathering tests of the time (not quite the most accurate system), and he determined that the writing was 500 years old. This announcement brought forth more believers in the authenticity of the stone – mostly among the Scandinavian community in the Midwest.

Twenty years later, more advanced tests were done on the area in which Ohman had found the stone – it had been submerged 500 years previously. No one was doing any writing on a stone at that spot in 1362.

The origin of the the Kensington Runestone is still a mystery, however. No one knows who made it and exactly why the hoax was perpetrated.

Indy in my opinion it has alot to do with the establishment historiens. They don't want to go against the narrative. Ohman had nothing to gain from faking it the stone brought him more grief than anything. Alot of history seems to be in question as more artefacts are found and technology improves. Also more documents surface.



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Interesting. Just started an audio book on the history or the vikings.

Fell asleep listening to it last night. Had wild dreams about Greenland and Vineland, vine berries, Erik the Red and Leif Erikson, screamers (their word for Indians and Inuits), walrus ivory, long boats... Woke up as the Swede's were headed into Russia.

Have you seen Lord of the Rings? It looks exactly like some of Tolkien's drawings.

Tolkien was a polyglot who spoke and read Old Norse amongst about a dozen other languages.

Tolkien didn't just speak several languages, he invented them for his books.

auk1124;
Good evening sir, I trust the day behaved itself for you and all who are in your life are well.

Thanks for the interesting update, I've been following this with interest for most of my life.

When I was in Canadian school in the late '60's and through the '70's, there still wasn't consensus that the ruins were Viking or if so how long they'd been there.

One of the articles I read a year or more back now said there's evidence to suggest they were there for several hundred years, if not permanently, then returning often during that time frame.

Another interesting tidbit is that the Vikings traded with the Dorset culture, not the Inuit/Thule culture who inhabit the Arctic now.

There's speculation as to what happened to the Dorset, but no consensus again other than they vanished about the time Columbus showed up far to the south.

Thanks again and all the best.

Dwayne

That was pretty much my first thought too. It could of been a bunch of the wandering types also. I could see a bunch of young dudes who just have to see what's over the next hill ending up in all kinds of places back in them days.