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Posted By: IZH27 Mandate at work - 11/17/21
This morning I officially got word that the CMS (Centers for Medicare and Medicaid services) has mandated the jab for all home health care providers. We have until 12/6 to submit for the first jab of the series.

No es bueno. I will be submitting a religious exemption by weeks end.

#letbrandongo
Posted By: bruinruin Re: Mandate at work - 11/17/21
About ½ hour ago it was reported that OSHA is suspending their mandate in the face of litigation.
Posted By: IZH27 Re: Mandate at work - 11/17/21
I had some hope in that but CMS is a different agency and is a different flank in the attack via government agencies.

A nurse coworker sent this text to me this morning:

“ My nephew sent me an article today in which the NCSBN issued a statement that they will pursue revoking the licensure of nurses spreading Covid related propaganda. I told my nephew that this isn’t the beginning, it’s from years of complacence and it’s too late to unring the bell”.

These “tyrants” are trying from every possible angle.
Posted By: tater74 Re: Mandate at work - 11/17/21
In your religious exemption be sure to not use feelings. Stick to scripture. Also if you have received the flu vaccine. It may make it a bit tougher to prove a religious act.
Posted By: Esox357 Re: Mandate at work - 11/17/21
Religion can change its a personal feeling so just because you took a flu shot doesn’t mean you cant claim religious exempt. Also do not take flu shot from here on out.
Posted By: antlers Re: Mandate at work - 11/17/21
No influenza vaccine available in the U.S. requires the use of fetal cells for production.
Posted By: AcesNeights Re: Mandate at work - 11/17/21
My wife received a religious exemption a couple weeks ago so for now we’re cautiously optimistic but we don’t trust the enemy at all!

Good luck with the exemption, everyone should be able to get one but unfortunately our Constitution is an empty vessel to the enemy.
Posted By: IZH27 Re: Mandate at work - 11/17/21
I hand a great conversation with my regional last week. It was inevitable that CMS was going to demand the jab. I’m confident that the company doesn’t want the potential legal expense by denying exemption.

I’ve been here 14 years. I’ve thought about looking elsewhere over the years but these guys have not been “corporate” in the same way as many of the major US companies. I’ve been able to act as a clinician rather than a robot as I deal with patients. I’m optimistic that I’ll be safe here for the long term.
Posted By: bbassi Re: Mandate at work - 11/17/21
Originally Posted by bruinruin
About ½ hour ago it was reported that OSHA is suspending their mandate in the face of litigation.

Link please?
Posted By: pahick Re: Mandate at work - 11/17/21
Originally Posted by bbassi
Originally Posted by bruinruin
About ½ hour ago it was reported that OSHA is suspending their mandate in the face of litigation.

Link please?



https://www.osha.gov/coronavirus/ets2
Posted By: local_dirt Re: Mandate at work - 11/17/21
Originally Posted by IZH27
I had some hope in that but CMS is a different agency and is a different flank in the attack via government agencies.

A nurse coworker sent this text to me this morning:

“ My nephew sent me an article today in which the NCSBN issued a statement that they will pursue revoking the licensure of nurses spreading Covid related propaganda. I told my nephew that this isn’t the beginning, it’s from years of complacence and it’s too late to unring the bell”.

These “tyrants” are trying from every possible angle.





That is insane. Suspending their license? Talk about overreach.
Posted By: OldHat Re: Mandate at work - 11/17/21
Originally Posted by IZH27
This morning I officially got word that the CMS (Centers for Medicare and Medicaid services) has mandated the jab for all home health care providers. We have until 12/6 to submit for the first jab of the series.

No es bueno. I will be submitting a religious exemption by weeks end.

#letbrandongo

My religious exemption went through easily. they said there was so little guidance that they just accepted it as I wrote it - 4 sentences.
Posted By: OldHat Re: Mandate at work - 11/17/21
Originally Posted by Esox357
Religion can change its a personal feeling so just because you took a flu shot doesn’t mean you cant claim religious exempt. Also do not take flu shot from here on out.

Exactly. I kept mine extremely short and just invoked my rights under Title VII of the US Civil Rights Act of 1964 using one verse of scripture. I did not try and get into a debate in my letter.
Posted By: AcesNeights Re: Mandate at work - 11/17/21
There are some excellent templates online for religious and medical exemptions that were written by groups of attorneys fighting as a coalition. They cite federal statutes and leave emotion out of it. That worked for several that I know. 👍

Again….best of luck against this blatant assault on our freedoms.
Posted By: Joezone Re: Mandate at work - 11/17/21
Where I worked they pretty much gave exemptions without question, but then refused to grant reasonable accommodations almost across the board. So for me, it's on to the next job hopefully.
Posted By: ShaunRyan Re: Mandate at work - 11/17/21
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
There are some excellent templates online for religious and medical exemptions that were written by groups of attorneys fighting as a coalition. They cite federal statutes and leave emotion out of it. That worked for several that I know. 👍


Got a recommended link? All I'm coming up with via search is .gov and .edu stuff.
Posted By: Tyrone Re: Mandate at work - 11/17/21
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/r.../?utm_source=urgent&utm_campaign=usa
Posted By: IZH27 Re: Mandate at work - 11/17/21
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by IZH27
I had some hope in that but CMS is a different agency and is a different flank in the attack via government agencies.

A nurse coworker sent this text to me this morning:

“ My nephew sent me an article today in which the NCSBN issued a statement that they will pursue revoking the licensure of nurses spreading Covid related propaganda. I told my nephew that this isn’t the beginning, it’s from years of complacence and it’s too late to unring the bell”.

These “tyrants” are trying from every possible angle.





That is insane. Suspending their license? Talk about overreach.


Major overreach. It should be intolerable to most.
Posted By: local_dirt Re: Mandate at work - 11/18/21
Originally Posted by IZH27
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by IZH27
I had some hope in that but CMS is a different agency and is a different flank in the attack via government agencies.

A nurse coworker sent this text to me this morning:

“ My nephew sent me an article today in which the NCSBN issued a statement that they will pursue revoking the licensure of nurses spreading Covid related propaganda. I told my nephew that this isn’t the beginning, it’s from years of complacence and it’s too late to unring the bell”.

These “tyrants” are trying from every possible angle.





That is insane. Suspending their license? Talk about overreach.


Major overreach. It should be intolerable to most.




Far worse than firing someone because they refuse the jab. They want to destroy the person's ability to make a living in their chosen field for the rest of their lives! Nevermind the huge chunk of their lives they spent in training and education, and gaining invaluable experience to do that job.
Posted By: AcesNeights Re: Mandate at work - 11/18/21
Originally Posted by ShaunRyan
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
There are some excellent templates online for religious and medical exemptions that were written by groups of attorneys fighting as a coalition. They cite federal statutes and leave emotion out of it. That worked for several that I know. 👍


Got a recommended link? All I'm coming up with via search is .gov and .edu stuff.


Here you go……

https://marchforfreedomwa.com/assets/Statement_of_Declination.pdf
Posted By: AcesNeights Re: Mandate at work - 11/18/21
https://marchforfreedomwa.com/assets/Statement_of_Declination.pdf

Statement of Declination of COVID-19 Vaccine Product
(Claim of Religious Exemption)
To whom it may concern,
I have been offered a vaccination product as a condition of Employment.
I am notifying you of my legal religious exemption from taking any COVID-19 vaccine because doing so would violate my sincerely held religious belief that my body is a holy temple, made by my Creator, and I will not defile it with unwanted or hazardous intrusions. Therefore, I retain the right to decline any product that would do harm to my body or that would otherwise alter my biological material or biological systems, which are the craftsmanship of my Creator and of which my Creator has granted me sole possession and use of.
I am requesting to keep working here, with the same level of accommodations I am already dealing with as this has not caused undue hardship to the organization nor have I been a health threat to others. If this poses a challenge to the organization, then I look forward to discussing an alternate reasonable accommodation based on my Religious Exemption, as required by the Civil Rights Act of 1964, Title VII and enforced by the EEOC. Furthermore, Revised Code of Washington (RCW) 49.60.030 - Freedom from discrimination - confirms my right to be free from discrimination because of creed and confirms my “right to obtain and hold employment without discrimination.”
Pursuant to state and federal law referenced above and based upon my deeply-held religious beliefs, I am respectfully claiming my religious exemption and declining the vaccine product. I enjoy my current work responsibilities and I plan to continue working here as I have a “vested” Constitutional Right to my continued employment under the common law pursuant to RCW 4.04.010 and RCW 9A.04.060.
To this I attest that I will not violate my creed and religious convictions by consenting to the receipt of the COVID-19 vaccine; nonetheless, I will do everything within my ability that does not violate my personal creed or my rights to help fight this pandemic in my scope of employment.
By signing below, I verify that I am declining COVID-19 vaccination at this time. Respectfully,
____________________________________________ _____________________ (Signature) (Date)
____________________________________________ (Printed Name)
Posted By: AcesNeights Re: Mandate at work - 11/18/21
The RCW’s are the Revised Code of Washington so they should be amended to your state’s statutes but otherwise everything else is applicable.

Good luck!
Posted By: ShaunRyan Re: Mandate at work - 11/18/21
Thank you, sir!

I'm not worried about myself, my employer hasn't jumped on the bandwagon and I don't think they will. If they do, I'll tell them to 1099 me or good luck finding a replacement able and willing to do everything I do for them.

My wife is interested in going for a medical exemption.
Posted By: IZH27 Re: Mandate at work - 11/18/21
Thanks aces.
Posted By: Jackson_Handy Re: Mandate at work - 11/18/21
I'd tell them to blow me, and wait for a pink slip.
Posted By: Joel/AK Re: Mandate at work - 11/18/21
Hope the exemption works.
Posted By: joken2 Re: Mandate at work - 11/18/21

Unfortunately our next door neighbor is going to have to choose between either getting inoculated with one of the available vaccines or be denied attending her son's U.S. Marine basic training graduation ceremony as no one is allowed on base without proof of getting it.
Posted By: Billy_Goat Re: Mandate at work - 11/18/21
same boat here, but because my firm (very large) does business as a Federal Contractor. it's separate from the OSHA mandate or the Medicare provider mandate.

I plan to submit a religious exemption form. once I started populating it.... it was actually pretty easy. I'll find out next month if my religious convictions are deemed acceptable to the powers that be.

crazy times, these.

that said...... countless men and women have lost their entire lives to the pursuit of Liberty. if I lose my job (of 22 years, mind you), that's pretty small in comparison.
Posted By: AcesNeights Re: Mandate at work - 11/18/21
Originally Posted by Joel/AK
Hope the exemption works.


It’s worked for dozens upon dozens if not more at my wife’s company with the exemptions issued in 24 hours or less with no further explanations needed. I know each company differs but that’s a condition of management or HR NOT because the exemption request is deficient. A company with ass holes running it will likely deny everything and wait for litigation. A company that cares about their employees will accept it out of hand because it’s their only legal and constitutional option.

I hope that helps anyone struggling to find the words for their exemption. 👍
Posted By: Hunterapp Re: Mandate at work - 11/18/21
As I understand Osha has shut down mandated covid19 vaccination, at least where the 100 plus employee BS is in place. https://www.newsmax.com/us/osha-suspension-vaccine-mandate-appeal/2021/11/17/id/1045096/
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: Mandate at work - 11/18/21
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by IZH27
I had some hope in that but CMS is a different agency and is a different flank in the attack via government agencies.

A nurse coworker sent this text to me this morning:

“ My nephew sent me an article today in which the NCSBN issued a statement that they will pursue revoking the licensure of nurses spreading Covid related propaganda. I told my nephew that this isn’t the beginning, it’s from years of complacence and it’s too late to unring the bell”.

These “tyrants” are trying from every possible angle.





That is insane. Suspending their license? Talk about overreach.
This is a test run to prove that they can control everything. If they get this done, look out because much more is coming.
Posted By: IZH27 Re: Mandate at work - 11/25/21
Looks like I’m good on the exemption.

Best of luck to all of you who also chose to go this route.
Posted By: Redneck Re: Mandate at work - 11/25/21
This would end in a hurry if EVERY SINGLE EMPLOYEE would walk out... Either the company gives in or they fold up... I'd bet they'd give in - if they wanna stay in business...
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