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Posted By: atvalaska LEAD PIPES .? WTH... - 12/16/21
I thought lead pipes went out with the Romans back about 200AD ......what's with this lead pipe replacement crap and billions of dollars .....if it's a damned little solder joint that ain't going to kill you turn the water on it'll work just fine.... lead in a solder joint is a whole lot different than a LeaD pipe . They said don't eat lead paint chips in the 60's ......no chit.......I never did "start" eating them ... mad This Administration has been eating fishing sinkers-lead ones by the Dozen imo, listen to that living Raggedy Ann doll we got for a press secretary ..... and Brandon my God ...them people are freaking hurting...the lead pipes should be used up side their heads...
Posted By: atvalaska Re: LEAD PIPES .? WTH... - 12/16/21
Just how much dirt and dust and burnt diesel fuel fumes are going to be used to dig up these so-called pipes and then where you going to put them..... idiots
Posted By: slumlord Re: LEAD PIPES .? WTH... - 12/16/21
Our city utility started replacing lead services 10 years ago.

I got a nice 12ft section of 1” (OD) service line weighs about 90 lbs. super soft.

Catfish sinkers baybee!!!!
Many Michigan municipal water systems used lead pipes back in the day to connect residential service to water mains. Only a few progressive local governments....East Lansing or example...have taken the initiative to get rid of lead service lines. Failure to upgrade to non-toxic service lines seems to be a mixture of ignorant elected officials/decision makers, poorly managed city budgets, declining tax base and neighborhood income decline.

In Flint, all of the above applied combined with a change in water source which slightly altered treated water chemistry, still within federal guidelines, and the new chemistry removed material that had accumulated and coated the inside of lead residential service lines. And caused leaching of lead into household drinking water. This is an oversimplification of the Flint situation. Other factors included, but were not limited to, aging and failing/leaking/broken water mains and in some some area significantly oversized water mains that acted like reservoirs with long holding times. The latter due to demolition of GM parts plants that had high water consumption.
Many Michigan municipal water systems used lead pipes back in the day to connect residential service to water mains. Only a few progressive local governments....East Lansing or example...have taken the initiative to get rid of lead service lines. Failure to upgrade to non-toxic service lines seems to be a mixture of ignorant elected officials/decision makers, poorly managed city budgets, declining tax base and neighborhood income decline.

In Flint, all of the above applied combined with a change in water source which slightly altered treated water chemistry, still within federal guidelines, and the new chemistry removed material that had accumulated and coated the inside of lead residential service lines. And caused leaching of lead into household drinking water. This is an oversimplification of the Flint situation. Other factors included, but were not limited to, aging and failing/leaking/broken water mains and in some some area significantly oversized water mains that acted like reservoirs with long holding times. The latter due to demolition of GM parts plants that had high water consumption.
Posted By: rockinbbar Re: LEAD PIPES .? WTH... - 12/16/21
Boolits! laugh
Posted By: simonkenton7 Re: LEAD PIPES .? WTH... - 12/16/21
Astonishing to me that lead water pipes are still in use. Lead poisoning will destroy a person.
What are we, Haiti?
Posted By: cisco1 Re: LEAD PIPES .? WTH... - 12/16/21

How else you gonna get lead in yer pencil.........if you ain't drinking outta lead pipes?????????

I hadda hook up my well with lead pipes.
Posted By: gascheck Re: LEAD PIPES .? WTH... - 12/16/21
He!! what good is lead in your pencil if you ain't got nobody to write to.
Posted By: cisco1 Re: LEAD PIPES .? WTH... - 12/16/21

Haven't you ever heard of Pen pals , gassy..........

you post too much , by the way........
Posted By: stevelyn Re: LEAD PIPES .? WTH... - 12/17/21
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Boolits! laugh



Hells Yeah!
Posted By: bpas105 Re: LEAD PIPES .? WTH... - 12/17/21
Laws to remove lead in drinking water have been in place for many years. To subsidize removal of those that still exist is just like the dimocrats' practice of rewarding criminals for their behavior. Instead of sending our tax money to remove those pipes, they should fine the crap out of those municipalities/agencies/companies and use that money to take care of the problem.
Posted By: slumlord Re: LEAD PIPES .? WTH... - 12/17/21
Originally Posted by stevelyn
Originally Posted by rockinbbar
Boolits! laugh



Hells Yeah!


The service line my distribution manager kicked with foot didnt even move. He says here throw this one in your pickup and make sinkers out of. lol

We had a 10 yard shallow dumpster will gutted services in it. Couldnt let the dumpster get too full or the hauler couldnt winch it up.
All went to recycle. I shouldve got a couple more. But I already dozens a lead roofing plumbing flashings i collected stripping opd houses.
Posted By: slumlord Re: LEAD PIPES .? WTH... - 12/17/21
Originally Posted by bpas105
Laws to remove lead in drinking water have been in place for many years. To subsidize removal of those that still exist is just like the dimocrats' practice of rewarding criminals for their behavior. Instead of sending our tax money to remove those pipes, they should fine the crap out of those municipalities/agencies/companies and use that money to take care of the problem.


Capitol Projects money and grants to pull it out. It was accepted practice in the 40-50s to use lead services, and lead welding/soldering of main unions and bells. Capital Projects money oversaw it then on the install.

Had to build rapidly to house all you boomers and greatest generation breeders.
Posted By: CashisKing Re: LEAD PIPES .? WTH... - 12/17/21
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730 grain .458s... mouse fart quiet

I loves me some scrap lead.
Posted By: steve4102 Re: LEAD PIPES .? WTH... - 12/17/21
Originally Posted by simonkenton7
Astonishing to me that lead water pipes are still in use. Lead poisoning will destroy a person.
What are we, Haiti?

Lead in a solid form is not water soluble .
Posted By: mark shubert Re: LEAD PIPES .? WTH... - 12/17/21
Originally Posted by atvalaska
"that living Raggedy Ann doll we got for a press secretary"


You mean "Peppermint Patty Psaki"?
I believe Biden has been drinking from lead plumbing his entire life - a condition common amongst liberals.
We definitely need to fix that problem.
Posted By: mark shubert Re: LEAD PIPES .? WTH... - 12/17/21
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by simonkenton7
Astonishing to me that lead water pipes are still in use. Lead poisoning will destroy a person.
What are we, Haiti?

Lead in a solid form is not water soluble .

Some of the chemicals in the water react with the lead, however.
Posted By: steve4102 Re: LEAD PIPES .? WTH... - 12/17/21
Originally Posted by mark shubert
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by simonkenton7
Astonishing to me that lead water pipes are still in use. Lead poisoning will destroy a person.
What are we, Haiti?

Lead in a solid form is not water soluble .

Some of the chemicals in the water react with the lead, however.

Such as?
Posted By: MikeL2 Re: LEAD PIPES .? WTH... - 12/17/21
Lead is soluble in soft water, low pH water. Solubility goes down as pH goes up.
Use of lead pipes, solder, and pipe joint seals has been banned in construction of public water systems for long time (maybe the 60s?, don't want to look it up).
Lead service lines from water main to house are not part of the public water system, they are privately owned by the home owner, so not regulated as tightly.
There are still lots of lead service lines in older houses (millions?) I'm swagging, but if house built before 1950 I'd check for lead, maybe even stuff built in the 60s.
Posted By: Sitka deer Re: LEAD PIPES .? WTH... - 12/17/21
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by mark shubert
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by simonkenton7
Astonishing to me that lead water pipes are still in use. Lead poisoning will destroy a person.
What are we, Haiti?

Lead in a solid form is not water soluble .

Some of the chemicals in the water react with the lead, however.

Such as?

Acetic acid creates lead acetate as a non-depleting catalyst
Posted By: RiverRider Re: LEAD PIPES .? WTH... - 12/17/21
Originally Posted by steve4102
Originally Posted by simonkenton7
Astonishing to me that lead water pipes are still in use. Lead poisoning will destroy a person.
What are we, Haiti?

Lead in a solid form is not water soluble .



2 Pb + O2 + 2 H2O -> 2 Pb(OH)2
Posted By: AJ300MAG Re: LEAD PIPES .? WTH... - 12/17/21
Originally Posted by MikeL2
Lead is soluble in soft water, low pH water. Solubility goes down as pH goes up.
Use of lead pipes, solder, and pipe joint seals has been banned in construction of public water systems for long time (maybe the 60s?, don't want to look it up).
Lead service lines from water main to house are not part of the public water system, they are privately owned by the home owner, so not regulated as tightly.
There are still lots of lead service lines in older houses (millions?) I'm swagging, but if house built before 1950 I'd check for lead, maybe even stuff built in the 60s.

Yup... Municipalities add orthophospates to water to form a protective coating in lead pipes. The problem with Flint was that they switched to using Flint river water which has a high salinity content at the same time they quit treating their water with orthophospate. The water stripped the phosphate coating out of the service lines, lead leached into the water system.
Posted By: steve4102 Re: LEAD PIPES .? WTH... - 12/17/21
Bullschit
Posted By: MikeL2 Re: LEAD PIPES .? WTH... - 12/17/21
Originally Posted by steve4102
Bullschit

What part do you think is bull?
Posted By: Anteloper Re: LEAD PIPES .? WTH... - 12/17/21
Originally Posted by CashisKing
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730 grain .458s... mouse fart quiet

I loves me some scrap lead.


Would love to know more about his one!
Powder charge, velocity, point of impact difference from standard?
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