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Posted By: 1OntarioJim Ivermectin - origin? - 01/15/22
I am curious as to where this originated as being a remedy for Covid? If someone can answer this question they should be nominated as the most intelligent person on the fire. Serious question.

Jim
Posted By: goalie Re: Ivermectin - origin? - 01/15/22
It's been used for river blindness (Onchocerciasis) for years.

Now I'm interested in who thought to try it.

Although, it's over of the safest drugs out there, so it wasn't a really risky thing to try.
Posted By: STRSWilson Re: Ivermectin - origin? - 01/15/22
Depends - Dr. Pierre Kory was one of the first US doctors to study Ivermectin for SARS-CoV-2. But Fauci and others considered both Ivermectin and Chloroquine and Hydroxychloroquine for the treatment in 2003 -2004 time frame with the initial SARS outbreak in China.

As far as first application using Ivermectin specifically for SARS-CoV-2 there were several hospitals in Europe, Brazil, and Africa that all began using it very early on. Because Ivermectin is so widely used around the globe, it would be pretty difficult to nail down who did what first.
Posted By: Magnum_Bob Re: Ivermectin - origin? - 01/15/22
They have been using Ivermectin for over 40 years to control viruses borne by parasites on both sides of the equator. The governments of equatorial countries buy it to treat there citizens effectively. Google up FLCCC AND CLICK ON SOME OF THE LINKS. Big pharma can't make any money on it that's its only failing....mb
Posted By: rainshot Re: Ivermectin - origin? - 01/15/22
The problem with ivermectin is it is too cheap. Big Pharos can’t make any money off it.

Could it be that another “failing” in big pharma/corporate medicine’s eyes might be that it actually stems the disease.
Posted By: Orion2000 Re: Ivermectin - origin? - 01/15/22
The only failure of Ivermectin relative to Covid is in the profit department. $1-$2 per dose versus $530 per dose for the most recent Big Pharma release versus $8,000 (+/-) for Remdasivir.
Posted By: Tesoro Re: Ivermectin - origin? - 01/15/22
I had read somewhere that in areas where the population were all taking their weekly IM pill researchers noticed covid numbers were minimal. Maybe this was with Sars-1.

There is a state in India with 220 million people where they pretty much wiped out covid delta with IM given to anyone symptomatic and people they had exposed.

As it is very effective for minimizing covid symptoms, then I wonder if it will do the same for the flu and common cold?! I wouldnt be surprised if the govt dosent soon classify IM as a prohibited drug with a narcotic type rating.

What is 'big pharma' anymore? multinational investment companies controlling drug and healthcare conglomerates all married into global political families?
Posted By: DryPowder Re: Ivermectin - origin? - 01/15/22
Originally Posted by 1OntarioJim
I am curious as to where this originated as being a remedy for Covid? If someone can answer this question they should be nominated as the most intelligent person on the fire. Serious question.

Jim


I'll beat my own drum grin

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Posted By: Tesoro Re: Ivermectin - origin? - 01/15/22

Originally Posted by rainshot
The problem with ivermectin is it is too cheap. Big Pharos can’t make any money off it.


Sure they can!! but not very much! greed at the expense of 100's of thousands of unnecessary deaths and everything that went along with that...
Posted By: goalie Re: Ivermectin - origin? - 01/15/22
Originally Posted by Tesoro
I had read somewhere that in areas where the population were all taking their weekly IM pill researchers noticed covid numbers were minimal. Maybe this was with Sars-1.

There is a state in India with 220 million people where they pretty much wiped out covid delta with IM given to anyone symptomatic and people they had exposed.

As it is very effective for minimizing covid symptoms, then I wonder if it will do the same for the flu and common cold?! I wouldnt be surprised if the govt dosent soon classify IM as a prohibited drug with a narcotic type rating.

What is 'big pharma' anymore? multinational investment companies controlling drug and healthcare conglomerates all married into global political families?


It wasn't ivermectin alone. They made up kits with a Z-pak and other goodies.
Originally Posted by 1OntarioJim
I am curious as to where this originated as being a remedy for Covid? If someone can answer this question they should be nominated as the most intelligent person on the fire. Serious question.

Jim

I believe they noticed that those who used it for parasites didn't get COVID-19, or at least didn't end up in the hospital. That gave them the idea to try it on COVID-19 patients.
Posted By: Wannabebwana Re: Ivermectin - origin? - 01/15/22
Veterinarians have known about the anti-viral properties of Ivermectin for decades.
Posted By: STRSWilson Re: Ivermectin - origin? - 01/15/22
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by 1OntarioJim
I am curious as to where this originated as being a remedy for Covid? If someone can answer this question they should be nominated as the most intelligent person on the fire. Serious question.

Jim

I believe they noticed that those who used it for parasites didn't get COVID-19, or at least didn't end up in the hospital. That gave them the idea to try it on COVID-19 patients.



It wasn't quite that casual. Ivermectin has a well documented anti-inflammatory and anti-viral effect. It was considered as a possible treatment for SARS-. So it was widely speculated that it would have a positive effect for SARS-CoV-2 very early into the pandemic. As to who first started a clinical treatment using it is pretty difficult to nail down.
Posted By: 1OntarioJim Re: Ivermectin - origin? - 01/15/22
Thanks for the replies. There is much here I didn't know before. Thanks

Jim
Posted By: SBTCO Re: Ivermectin - origin? - 01/15/22
Here's one from the Nat. Institute For Health, the place where the CDC's supposed go to source for setting policy.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/

There are more articles on the subject from the same source...do search for Ivermectin use for viruses.
Posted By: Squidge Re: Ivermectin - origin? - 01/15/22
Ivermectin was found to inhibit covid-19 replication in vitro.

Definition of in vitro: outside the living body and in an artificial environment

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32251768/

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We report here that Ivermectin, an FDA-approved anti-parasitic previously shown to have broad-spectrum anti-viral activity in vitro, is an inhibitor of the causative virus (SARS-CoV-2), with a single addition to Vero-hSLAM cells 2 h post infection with SARS-CoV-2 able to effect ~5000-fold reduction in viral RNA at 48 h. Ivermectin therefore warrants further investigation for possible benefits in humans.
Posted By: Hastings Re: Ivermectin - origin? - 01/15/22
The first report I heard was from Australia. I read it on an Australian news site. Quickly that report was not to be found. I caught what was probably the Corona virus in the fall of 2020 and as soon as I showed fever I took a dose of Ivermectin of about 10% over the recommended dose. The next day I was free of fever although a secondary infection did manifest itself in the form of coughing up yellow junk which I knocked out with a Zpack. Before Christmas this year the same scenario happened again. I had 3 degrees of fever which was gone within 24 hours of taking Ivermectin. My little grand daughter has really bad reactions to mosquito bites and I'm sure flea bites when she is outside loving on our fleabag cat. I rub a little injectable Ivermectin on the bites and poof they go away. My brother had a persistent rash on his arm which no one could cure. He swallowed 2cc of injectable Ivermectin and it disappeared.
Posted By: javman Re: Ivermectin - origin? - 01/15/22
Originally Posted by goalie
Originally Posted by Tesoro
I had read somewhere that in areas where the population were all taking their weekly IM pill researchers noticed covid numbers were minimal. Maybe this was with Sars-1.

There is a state in India with 220 million people where they pretty much wiped out covid delta with IM given to anyone symptomatic and people they had exposed.

As it is very effective for minimizing covid symptoms, then I wonder if it will do the same for the flu and common cold?! I wouldnt be surprised if the govt dosent soon classify IM as a prohibited drug with a narcotic type rating.

What is 'big pharma' anymore? multinational investment companies controlling drug and healthcare conglomerates all married into global political families?


It wasn't ivermectin alone. They made up kits with a Z-pak and other goodies.


This is what they used in India.

From the original article:

This is what they used in India.

Each home kit contained the following: Paracetamol tablets [tylenol], Vitamin C, Multivitamin, Zinc, Vitamin D3, Ivermectin 12 mg [quantity #10 tablets], Doxycycline 100 mg [quantity #10 tablets]. Other non-medication components included face masks, sanitizer, gloves and alcohol wipes, a digital thermometer, and a pulse oximeter.
Posted By: Tesoro Re: Ivermectin - origin? - 01/16/22
Yes correct. But IM was the magic pill in the packs. It is sickening what happened.
Posted By: javman Re: Ivermectin - origin? - 01/16/22
Originally Posted by Tesoro
Yes correct. But IM was the magic pill in the packs. It is sickening what happened.

Agree, been on it since the beginning of last year.

Also saw a vid with Dr Zelenko and stated Zinc is more effective with IM and HCQ which makes it a more effective stack.
Posted By: Daveinjax Re: Ivermectin - origin? - 01/16/22
That Ivermectin has anti virus properties has been documented for decades and it’s use against Covid goes back to SARS Covid 1. There have been several studies since sars 1 and Fauci was well aware of Ivermectin and Hydroxicloroquine being effective against SARS viruses.
Posted By: Orion2000 Re: Ivermectin - origin? - 01/16/22
Originally Posted by Tesoro
... As it is very effective for minimizing covid symptoms, then I wonder if it will do the same for the flu and common cold?! ...

It works...


Originally Posted by Tesoro
... I wouldnt be surprised if the govt dosent soon classify IM as a prohibited drug with a narcotic type rating. ...

Imagine the impact on Big Pharma if suddenly the need for OTC "Cold and Flu Relief" medications, and the associated Rx antibiotics and steroids were reduced by 90%...
Posted By: kwg020 Re: Ivermectin - origin? - 01/16/22
The first time I heard about it was right here on the Fire. It seems one of you out there has a daughter who is a Vet Tech. He reported it to us after his daughter told him about it. Apparently she has used it to deworm horses and cattle and knew it had anti virus qualities. That was way early in the "pandemic" and within days Ivermectin was getting poo poo'd by Dr. Fauci and his gang of CDC losers. With all the misinformation we have heard for the last 2 years there is a reason why we took an early dislike to Dr. Fauci and the CDC. They earned that distrust and skepticism.

kwg
Posted By: goalie Re: Ivermectin - origin? - 01/16/22
Originally Posted by kwg020
The first time I heard about it was right here on the Fire. It seems one of you out there has a daughter who is a Vet Tech. He reported it to us after his daughter told him about it. Apparently she has used it to deworm horses and cattle and knew it had anti virus qualities. That was way early in the "pandemic" and within days Ivermectin was getting poo poo'd by Dr. Fauci and his gang of CDC losers. With all the misinformation we have heard for the last 2 years there is a reason why we took an early dislike to Dr. Fauci and the CDC. They earned that distrust and skepticism.

kwg


Fauci also knew from SARS 1.0 that Ivermectin worked, at least to some extent, against this type of virus.

It's all about the money, and ain't nobody getting rich selling Ivermectin......
Posted By: RickyD Re: Ivermectin - origin? - 01/16/22
Originally Posted by Tesoro

Originally Posted by rainshot
The problem with ivermectin is it is too cheap. Big Pharos can’t make any money off it.


Sure they can!! but not very much! greed at the expense of 100's of thousands of unnecessary deaths and everything that went along with that...

It served as a program to learn how different people die differently. They have learn from these things to effectively trim the masses.

If they had chosen Ivermectin it would have been much better and cheaper than what they served up and continues to.

Although.living is not the prime directive, the New World Order is. Or very soon will be,
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