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Posted By: ribka Homeless - 01/19/22


Spot on. I ve worked within around homeless people over 25 years. I used to try and help them getting them into treatment programs, finding jobs, arranging a shelter to take them etc. Not one followed up on. the help because they chose drugs over their future. There was one thing I noticed after talking to to them about their lives. Everyone one was a drug addict and chose to live on the streets vs living in a shelter. Shelters had rule ( no drugs or alcohol), curfews and would immediately kick you out if you didn't follow the rules. There is this myth that the homeless are economic victims who work hard and just cannot afford housing. Or have mental illness . Some may have some some form of mental illness but their main issue is drug addiction.

Real estate developers ( Dem donors and politicians) have made billions off of this ongoing scam
Posted By: simonkenton7 Re: Homeless - 01/19/22
I watched that last night. Grim. Hard to argue with Tucker.
Posted By: smokepole Re: Homeless - 01/19/22
I agree that the homeless problem is out of control, and we need laws and enforcement to keep them out of public spaces where they become not only a nuisance but dangerous and prevent the rest of us from using those areas.

But I'm missing the connection with developers making $billions, the video kept cutting out on me. How are developers making $ billions?
Posted By: ERK Re: Homeless - 01/19/22
I had the homeless figured out 40 years ago. What took you guys so long? Edk
Posted By: SBTCO Re: Homeless - 01/19/22
Originally Posted by smokepole
I agree that the homeless problem is out of control, and we need laws and enforcement to keep them out of public spaces where they become not only a nuisance but dangerous and prevent the rest of us from using those areas.

But I'm missing the connection with developers making $billions, the video kept cutting out on me. How are developers making $ billions?



The cities are using tax payer funds to buy existing housing ie. condo's, apt. etc as well as new developments ear marked to house the "homeless" at market value.
Posted By: Dillonbuck Re: Homeless - 01/19/22
Anyone ever listen to Neal Bortz?

He called them..."Urban Outdoorsmen"

Made me laugh every time he said it.
Posted By: ribka Re: Homeless - 01/19/22
Originally Posted by SBTCO
Originally Posted by smokepole
I agree that the homeless problem is out of control, and we need laws and enforcement to keep them out of public spaces where they become not only a nuisance but dangerous and prevent the rest of us from using those areas.

But I'm missing the connection with developers making $billions, the video kept cutting out on me. How are developers making $ billions?



The cities are using tax payer funds to buy existing housing ie. condo's, apt. etc as well as new developments ear marked to house the "homeless" at market value.



Funny how market value is an all time high now when cities received billions in Covid relief to buy brand new luxury apartments form their political donors( Realestate developers) for the non working drug addicts, while bankrupted middle class businesses received a pittance. Its almost as if this was planned.

This left wing lib has worked with homeless for decades and stated that he finally realized that it was solely an addiction problem and there was a lot of money to made off of this crisis

Posted By: longarm Re: Homeless - 01/19/22
The 'homeless industry' is real. Think social workers, drug counselors, State and Fed grants, property acquisition, maintenance, etc etc
My city council is largely made up of recent transplants from California who are all liberal twats. They can't spend enough money on the homeless junkies.
The junkie bums come from all over the country. I was closely watching the arrest record via the Sheriffs inmate roster.. almost every inmate was from another State (arrest records from elsewhere) and had "no current address". They come here BECAUSE liberal twats give them free stuff. A MAJOR player in this are the liberal churches, at least one of which local to me has been taken over by an attractive communist 'pastor' also from California.
Quality of life in this 50k population town has very clearly gone downhill - but liberals and reason are like oil and water and they will line up to vote for more of the same.
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: Homeless - 01/19/22
Suppose a city with a large homeless crowd spend the money on well maintained portapotties on every block. How many of the crowd would use them? How many would sleep in them?
Posted By: Wannabebwana Re: Homeless - 01/19/22
To be fair, many of the drug addicts are self-medicating their mental illness.

Having said that, as the saying goes "God helps those who help themselves."

Enabling them by giving them money to buy more drugs doesn't work. I won't support them as beggars in the street.

Years ago homeless advocates insisted that they were human beings who had the right to live as they choose, including how they spend their welfare money. Now more and more homeless shelters are doling out their money so it at least lasts most of the month.
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: Homeless - 01/19/22
It's good that big pharma flooded the US with opiates.

It's also good that we went to Afghanistan so we could control the dope.

Now we have a DEA that gets a bigger budget every year to fight oxy and heroin.

The Methadone industry is booming.

That's free market at its best.
Posted By: skeen Re: Homeless - 01/19/22
That was a great and very true monologue.
Posted By: Hotrod_Lincoln Re: Homeless - 01/19/22
Give the "homeless" unlimited access to whatever drug of choice they prefer- - - -free of charge. Just require them to have "DNR" tattooed across their forehead in letters 2" tall. The problem will solve itself in very short order.
Posted By: T_O_M Re: Homeless - 01/19/22
Originally Posted by Jim_Conrad
It's good that big pharma flooded the US with opiates.


Maybe I'm an [bleep] (only maybe? :)) but it seems to me we should help these poor people.
When they're ODing on their substance of choice, instead of trying to bring them back with a
dose of Narcan, why not give them what they really want .. a big ol' dose of fentanyl so they
can complete their ... journey? Seems the generous thing to do.

I'm tired o' the homeless "thing." 25 years ago we had homeless but every one of them that
I knew was where they were because they were incapable of being anywhere else, mental illness,
etc. Today I see a kind of industrialized / institutionalized homelessness ... a lifestyle choice.
Instead of lone bums looking for a handout for cheap booze or maybe drugs, but mostly booze,
these bastards descend in packs extorting money. Really ought to be shot as we would any
other sort of predator.

Tom
Posted By: simonkenton7 Re: Homeless - 01/19/22
longarm: "The junkie bums come from all over the country. I was closely watching the arrest record via the Sheriffs inmate roster.. almost every inmate was from another State (arrest records from elsewhere) and had "no current address". They come here BECAUSE liberal twats give them free stuff."

That's right. Start offering free stuff, and the homeless will flock in from across the land. How do they know that your local govt. is stupid enough to pile up freebies for them? They talk to one another on cell phones.

Girlfreind and I did the "Haunted Asheville" tour a year ago. It was late at night, of course, and it was a cold night, and as we walked all around Asheville with our tour group, there in downtown Asheville we saw over a dozen homeless, each guy was holed up in the doorway of a different downtown business. Three or four of 'em were asleep/passed out, but I saw at least 8 who were snuggled up in their sleeping bag, and texting on the Iphone. EVERY ONE I saw who was conscious was using that Iphone.

They can't afford room rent, but they have a $900 phone, and 40 bucks a month to run it. So when a city like Asheville announces, free motel rooms with kitchens for homeless, the word immediately goes out across the land.

ps. Asheville is right now in the middle of a $13 million project, the city of Asheville bought an old Days Inn downtown, 150 rooms, and are converting it in to homeless housing. They are adding a small kitchen to every room.

"Let the word go forth across the land..."
Posted By: jackmountain Re: Homeless - 01/19/22
Manage them like game. Open season with no bag limits.
Posted By: BuckHaggard Re: Homeless - 01/19/22
Originally Posted by longarm
The 'homeless industry' is real. Think social workers, drug counselors, State and Fed grants, property acquisition, maintenance, etc etc
My city council is largely made up of recent transplants from California who are all liberal twats. They can't spend enough money on the homeless junkies.
The junkie bums come from all over the country. I was closely watching the arrest record via the Sheriffs inmate roster.. almost every inmate was from another State (arrest records from elsewhere) and had "no current address". They come here BECAUSE liberal twats give them free stuff. A MAJOR player in this are the liberal churches, at least one of which local to me has been taken over by an attractive communist 'pastor' also from California.
Quality of life in this 50k population town has very clearly gone downhill - but liberals and reason are like oil and water and they will line up to vote for more of the same.


It is now entrenched just like the climate scare industry, the woke industry etc. The sheep can't make money from prisoners but they damn sure can from moving the inmates from jail to the streets. This country has about five years to turn it around or it's never coming back.
Posted By: longarm Re: Homeless - 01/20/22
BuckHaggard
".. The sheep can't make money from prisoners.." Hell, here there no longer even try! Our insane commie governess let them all out "because Covid". Multnomah County's (think Portland) DA refuses to prosecute antifa arrests.

Let's see: ... crush the economy, make narcotics legal, let prisoners out/refuse to arrest any more.. flood the country with hordes of low IQ illegals (don't believe me? Go ahead and look up the average IQ for Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, etc etc) .. work tirelessly at destroying the moral underpinnings of a once Christian country.. gaslight the remaining population in every conceivable way ...

What could possibly go wrong?
Posted By: longarm Re: Homeless - 01/20/22
simonkenton7,
I've asked liberals what they think will happen if they put cat food out on their back porch every night. You'll collect rats, raccoons, roaches, etc and these will inevitable come into conflict with your pet, right?? They just can't make the mental leap that the same is true for junkie bums. It's all about "feeling like we're doing something".. Liberal women and churches are the absolute worst about this - other than politicians.
Posted By: Seafire Re: Homeless - 01/20/22
Personally I have zero patience with these " Homeless" drug addicts....

here you watch them illlegally buy booze with their food stamp cards...

when they can't charge it on their Oregon Trail Card, they will pull out $100 bills to pay for it...

based on all the money they collect panhandling or just plain stealing and hocking it...

I'm in favor of it being legal, to just throw a flair into their tents when they are laying their higher than a kite, and not having a clue of what planet they are on..

Learned my lesson giving a damn about them decades ago.....
Posted By: las Re: Homeless - 01/20/22
The Aleutians are nasty any time of year.... Plenty of seafood around. Not all that hard to catch/harvest,/gather/ kill if you will.

Free passage.

One way.

On our way to Fairbanks, we usually fuel at the Wasilla 3- Bears. Lowest fuel prices around. There is a "homeless" guy there at the pull-off every single time- same guy. Wife keeps wanting to give him $5. I don't even slow down. I don't swerve to hit him either, in my defense...... smile

He is wearing clothes at least as good as mine, and looks well fed. Fug him.

Get a job, Bozo - they are begging for help most everywhere.

Wife volunteers one day a week at the local food bank. I've subbed for her a couple times. There is a group of 5 or 6 school bus drivers that come in for the free lunch every day, between driving shifts. They have jobs - I don't know the pay or their circumstances, but I suspect they don't really need the free meals- they could manage without, but hell, it's free, right?









Posted By: BillyGoatGruff Re: Homeless - 01/20/22
Meh fugg it
Posted By: hookeye Re: Homeless - 01/20/22
It is sad
But feeling sorry doesnt mean you should subsidize it.

Coworkers daughter busted releatedly. Proly 45 now.

Some people, for whatever reasons, repeatedly make poor decisions.

Because they IMHO are allowed to.

Azzhole attitude seems to lead to drug addiction.
From what Ive seen most have a touch or more of arrogance.

Dunno if theyre just programmed to self destruct or what.



Posted By: gunswizard Re: Homeless - 01/20/22
My LEO son in law deals with the homeless on a pretty regular basis, when they encounter one who's OD and they have a history of having done so they don't give them any Narcan from the PD supply. Rather they call the paramedics and let them deal with them. If they expire in the meantime then so be it.
Posted By: Mannlicher Re: Homeless - 01/20/22
my city spends millions subsidizing the homeless. In return, the homeless provide the city with a never ending crime spree.
Posted By: JeffA Re: Homeless - 01/20/22
Just an age old story, at one time the homeless were drunks and Hobo's, now they're homeless drug addicts and drunks.

Might be time and money better spent focusing on breaking the cycle with the mass amount of offspring these types bring into the world so they don't just become the next generation of homeless drug addicts and drunks.
Posted By: Jackson_Handy Re: Homeless - 01/20/22
Bums, hobos, train hoppers, I hate them all.
Posted By: 22250rem Re: Homeless - 01/20/22
Tucker is spot on. This nation is being taken over. It's being done by the Cloward-Piven strategy. Which is by overloading the system to the point of collapse and when the system is destroyed and people are screaming to fix the problem.; those who collapsed the system will come to the rescue and "fix" things the way they want it. Funny part is how America has become too fat, dumb and happy to even realize it and just sit back and allow it to happen. The drug and alcohol addicted masses have become nothing more than political lobbyists for the purposes of the socialist left. Welcome to the Great Society, folks.
Posted By: bamagun01 Re: Homeless - 01/20/22
One of the local bums in our town finally died a day ago. Most of the downtown folks knew him. He’d been on the streets for years. Anytime the weather got bad (too hot or extremely cold) he’d do something to get arrested. He’d stay cool or warm and well fed for 30 days in jail, then he’d return to his back ally hangout. He was like a stray dog. Feed him and he’d return for more handouts, run him off and he’d return but keep his distance. Never did any good. Mostly dug through the dumpsters looking for anything but making a heck of a mess for someone else to clean up. I took a picture of him passed out in front of a local business entrance and showed it to the local councilman and mayor. Their response was “be glad you don’t live in a bigger town, it’d be worse”. Typical politician!

I also learned the city received federal funding for giving free stuff such as food and housing. Because of that a few “soup kitchens” popped up. The surrounding cities were bussing their homeless folks to our town to rid their problem and pile on ours. The local residents finally had enough of it and started complaining. We still have a homeless issue but it seems to be hidden instead of blatantly left out in the open.

I have no use for the homeless bums and drug addicts.
Posted By: RJY66 Re: Homeless - 01/20/22
Originally Posted by hookeye
It is sad
But feeling sorry doesnt mean you should subsidize it.

Coworkers daughter busted releatedly. Proly 45 now.

Some people, for whatever reasons, repeatedly make poor decisions.

Because they IMHO are allowed to.

Azzhole attitude seems to lead to drug addiction.
From what Ive seen most have a touch or more of arrogance.

Dunno if theyre just programmed to self destruct or what.



I think they are programmed to self destruct. I've been helping out a guy in his 70's who gets social security but not enough to live on given today's rent prices.....'bout $1200 a month. He could probably make it if he owned a home......that is bad decision number 1. Pissing money away on BS throughout life.

Guy's back is legitimately shot and he has other health problems. He can't do much but he could do something but won't because he has enough SS to almost get by. Bad decision 2.

Bad decision number 3 is he has an anger problem that has destroyed his life. Caused him to get fired from jobs and piss off landlords over many years. Pissed off family so bad they are done with him. After him living in a car for a year I and others finally got him in subsidized housing and he was paying like $200 ish a month when market is $ 1,000 and all utilities were included except electric. Long waiting list in these parts for that kind of govt largesse. He could not get along with the mostly black residents. He saw some stuff going on that wasn't right and felt the need to call the cops constantly when the managers (also black) would not do anything. Some of the people there were crazy. One threw some detergent on him in the laundry room and he called her a nagger beotch. That got him kicked out. All the while me and others kept telling him to keep his effing mouth shut....that the place was run by and for blacks and him being white with a big mouth was no advantage. WOULD NOT LISTEN. If you are gonna be a "grumpy old man" you better have some money.

Lived in a car for another couple of months during the heat of summer here and by the grace of God got in another subsidized place with mostly old white people but it costs 600 plus a month, still a great deal compared to the market. So far he is doing well but I expect he is going to find a way to eff it up based on history.

Guy is not on drugs or alcohol.....he just ain't quite right in the head. But to be around him in casual situations, you would not know.


Posted By: bpas105 Re: Homeless - 01/20/22
In PA, at least, the definition of homeless has changed so now, if a child isn't living where he/she wants to be, they can be considered homeless. So, if I was temporarily living with my besty grandparents instead of my fighting parents, I'm homeless. That now means I can choose to go to any school I want and the schools have to transport me there. That's been tested in the courts and a line has been drawn that you can't be in Philly and get transported to Erie for school but there's a lot of leeway left in the mix, and some schools find it nearly impossible to meet the family's demands.

At the same time, the numbers of homeless students being reported have climbed quicky, making the libtards try to send even more money their way. It's getting ridiculous out there, now that families have figured this out.
Posted By: renegade50 Re: Homeless - 01/20/22
Spay and neuter em .
Clip the top half of the left ear off.

They choose a path in their life at some point of either being a productive member of society or being feral...

Got 0 empathy or pity for em.
They are a burden to society .
A burden to taxpayers
And a cultivated cash cow/ political toy/ .gov program reason for Liberal Socialist Democrats in too many ways to even contemplate or list.

I need ta get a roll of pennies today for the truck..
Been awhile...
🤣🤣🤣
Posted By: wabigoon Re: Homeless - 01/20/22
Some folks are hard to help.
Posted By: Raeford Re: Homeless - 01/20/22
Originally Posted by las


On our way to Fairbanks, we usually fuel at the Wasilla 3- Bears. Lowest fuel prices around. There is a "homeless" guy there at the pull-off every single time- same guy. Wife keeps wanting to give him $5. I don't even slow down. I don't swerve to hit him either, in my defense...... smile

He is wearing clothes at least as good as mine, and looks well fed. Fug him.

Get a job, Bozo - they are begging for help most everywhere.


Late last summer when running to Charlottesville 2-3 times weekly over a couple of months I saw the same.
Stoplight at the end of a off ramp.

The guy would smirk at you if you didn't pay him any mind.
Always had smokes and nice clean clothes.
Posted By: jorgeI Re: Homeless - 01/20/22
The "homeless" issue (we called them bums when I was growing up and threw s hit at them), was started by a democrat law firm in concert with the ACLU who sued (and the gov't caved) saying we were violating their "rights". Now as others have said here it's a liberal-guilt "cottage industry" with no end in sight.. But here's an idea...

Posted By: local_dirt Re: Homeless - 01/20/22
Originally Posted by ribka


Spot on. I ve worked within around homeless people over 25 years. I used to try and help them getting them into treatment programs, finding jobs, arranging a shelter to take them etc. Not one followed up on. the help because they chose drugs over their future. There was one thing I noticed after talking to to them about their lives. Everyone one was a drug addict and chose to live on the streets vs living in a shelter. Shelters had rule ( no drugs or alcohol), curfews and would immediately kick you out if you didn't follow the rules. There is this myth that the homeless are economic victims who work hard and just cannot afford housing. Or have mental illness . Some may have some some form of mental illness but their main issue is drug addiction.

Real estate developers ( Dem donors and politicians) have made billions off of this ongoing scam





ribka, You have been paying attention.
Posted By: bbassi Re: Homeless - 01/20/22
Originally Posted by Hotrod_Lincoln
Give the "homeless" unlimited access to whatever drug of choice they prefer- - - -free of charge. Just require them to have "DNR" tattooed across their forehead in letters 2" tall. The problem will solve itself in very short order.

If only that were true. The problem persists because there is natural recruitment.

Nearly 841,000 people have died since 1999 from a drug overdose.1 In 2019, 70,630 drug overdose deaths occurred in the United States. The age-adjusted rate of overdose deaths increased by over 4% from 2018 (20.7 per 100,000) to 2019 (21.6 per 100,000).

Overdose deaths

I sure don't have an answer, but it doesn't seem we really want to "fix" anything.
Posted By: hasbeen1945 Re: Homeless - 01/20/22
Homeless is just another scam for politicians to steal taxpayers money. When money starts flowing to any cause you need to take a close look. Kick backs are almost always involved. Hasbeen
Posted By: ihookem Re: Homeless - 01/21/22
To be honest , I only saw a few homeless people in my life. There was one about 20 miles south of here living under a bridge. That was the only homeless person I ever saw anywhere around here. However, the reason there are no homeless people is cause I live among conservatives.
Posted By: longarm Re: Homeless - 01/21/22
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ihookem
Ya think your weather might have a little something to do with it??
Posted By: wabigoon Re: Homeless - 01/21/22
Years back, the hobos would hang newspapers on a fence to sleep warmer, I've seen it.
Posted By: roverboy Re: Homeless - 01/21/22
A friend of mine handed a pan handler a jog application once.
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