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Posted By: elkmtb Dishwasher - 01/25/22
Dishwashers. What brands are good? What should I stay away from?

Current Kitchenaide is on the fritz. Maybe not even 5 years old. Sheesh.
Posted By: wabigoon Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
My wife is a fan of Sears.
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
We have about the cheapest Maytag with a stainless tub you can get.
Posted By: Stammster Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
Bosch
Posted By: smokepole Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
Get one that's versatile. Did you know that you can convert some dishwashers to lawnmowers?

You might have to start it for her but.....
Posted By: RipSnort Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
Get a Miele. These washers are astoundingly better than anything in my experience.

RS
Posted By: MD521 Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
I just bought a Bosch---Made In The USA.
Check them out.
Posted By: Vic_in_Va Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
Originally Posted by smokepole
Get one that's versatile. Did you know that you can convert some dishwashers to lawnmowers?

You might have to start it for her but.....


Sandwich dispenser, too!
Posted By: rong Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
Originally Posted by Stammster
Bosch


That's what we have,
Posted By: MuskegMan Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
Originally Posted by MD521
I just bought a Bosch---Made In The USA.
Check them out.


+2
Posted By: gregintenn Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
Married mine in 1995.
Posted By: smokepole Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
Originally Posted by Vic_in_Va
Originally Posted by smokepole
Get one that's versatile. Did you know that you can convert some dishwashers to lawnmowers?

You might have to start it for her but.....


Sandwich dispenser, too!


Seriously though, take my wife.

No, I mean it, seriously though, we have a Whirlpool that's 20 years old and still going strong. I'm not sure if they're all good or still good 20 years later, but there you have it.
Posted By: Redneck Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
We have a Bosch - VERY quiet, in fact it projects a red laser light on the floor so a person can tell it's running. Has a third, shallow upper tray that works very well with things like spatulas, tongs, any flatware etc...
Posted By: EdM Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
Going on year fifteen with an ASKO. Dead quiet too.
Posted By: Whttail_in_MT Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
Bosch here as well. Now that the serious question is answered, a bit of hijack humor...

Posted By: NVhntr Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
That's exactly the experience we had with a top of the line
Originally Posted by elkmtb
Dishwashers. What brands are good? What should I stay away from?

Current Kitchenaide is on the fritz. Maybe not even 5 years old. Sheesh.


That's exactly the experience we had with a top of the line KitchenAid. About five years. Since it just the wife and I we decided not to worry about it and do the dishes by hand. If we ever move or get the urge I'll replace it.
I actually prefer getting the dishes cleaned up and put away. It's no more work than with a dishwasher if you stop and think about it.
Unless you go commercial quality they are all 5 year junk.
Posted By: kingston Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
Bosch going strong for almost 20 years.
Posted By: wabigoon Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
A batcher friend was told to get one, with skirts. laugh
Posted By: NVhntr Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
Yeah, but one you can buy now won't last that long and that's the problem.
I had a high end Bosch cooktop that lasted about 6 years before quitting. Capacitors went bad.
Posted By: CRJ1960 Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
Had one named Jennifer that wasn’t worth a chit!
Posted By: KFWA Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
Bosch here

I bought a used one for my sister's house about 3 months ago too
Posted By: Spotshooter Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
Bosch is pretty good…

The problem however is they changed the federal requirements on how much electricity motors should use so the makers moved to having 1 or 2 motors, to 3-5 motors that break down because they are much lighter duty.
Posted By: 1minute Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
Yes. With smart ass motherboards installed in everything from a fridge to natural gas cooktop stove, there's little chance of getting one serviced when the chips outdate in six months.
Posted By: tedthorn Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
The company I work for is a tier one parts supplier to Whirlpool in Clyde Ohio

I get everything at cost straight from the factory shipped directly to my house so there isn't a thing in my house that's no Whirlpool
Posted By: plainsman456 Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
Can't help with the best make,we gave up on them years ago because they did not last long with this water we have.


On the other hand i guess i have had the same dishwasher for 43 years and so far she has not gave me a minute of trouble. grin
Posted By: jmdriver Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
Originally Posted by CRJ1960
Had one named Jennifer that wasn’t worth a chit!

I have the current model. Not much has changed. I’m looking into the Bosch.
Posted By: 805 Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
Bosch here also. Very quiet and works great.
Posted By: CashisKing Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
Originally Posted by RipSnort
Get a Miele. These washers are astoundingly better than anything in my experience.

RS


Friend of mine has a Miele (I think it at least)... about 35-40 years old and never a hick-up.

Very impressive stuff.
Posted By: doctor_Encore Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
Originally Posted by Stammster
Bosch



This.
Posted By: hanco Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
The blue difference between a cheap one and a good one is how much noise it makes. That’s what the appliance boys where I used to work told me.
Posted By: Winchester21 Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
Cove.
Buy once, cry once.
Posted By: elkmtb Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
Originally Posted by Winchester21
Cove.
Buy once, cry once.


thats a lot of crying. 3 dishwasher in cost. it better last 25-30 years
Posted By: elkmtb Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
of course the problem may be actually finding one in stock
Posted By: USMC2602 Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
Originally Posted by Redneck
We have a Bosch - VERY quiet, in fact it projects a red laser light on the floor so a person can tell it's running. Has a third, shallow upper tray that works very well with things like spatulas, tongs, any flatware etc...

Same here.
Posted By: TimberRunner Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
Our Bosch is a decade old. It's been a good one. Will probably crap out tomorrow.
Posted By: Dillonbuck Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
We had a Maytag from 2004 untill about 6 years ago.
Wasn't happy. Had issues, including not getting dishes clean.
It died, neighbor gave us a newer Kenmore. It was better, but still
we got dirty dishes occasionally. The bottom seal leaked. Found that out
when water came through the basement ceiling.

Fall 2020, I wanted to check out Miele.
Nearest dealer is 3 mountains and about 60 miles away, called them.
None in stock. That's a lot of money to order something I've never seen
They couldn't even get one in until April.

Hit the box stores in the big towns, no Bosch. Only cheap anything.
(Cheap Bosch probably is not worth the money)

Went shopping in town, 5 miles from home.
Talked to the old man who is second generation in the business.
They are known as the GE dealer, used to deal in Hobart (Kitchen Aid when
They were top shelf) still is a Speed Queen dealer.
He doesn't sell Bosch, told us where to go to maybe find one.
I ask what he had. He was really high on LG. And claims he gets their
parts as well as anyone. At that time. (They are also a repair facility)


So, we just bought LG.
Have had it over a year, and we love it.
We don't rinse, my wife barely scrapes. Casseroles, things you wouldn't
think you had a chance of getting clean, come out spotless.
The filter is no big deal, there is rarely ever anything in it.

The one complaint. It is of the stainless tub, no heating element design.
Plastic stuff doesn't dry real well. You often have to wipe it with a towel.
No big deal, just a swipe. But it's a negative.


Time will tell how it hold up. I'm still worried by that.

But, in this amount of time the Maytag had broken basket wheels.
And that continued until I fashioned new axels from copper. It also broke
A door latch under warranty, and a couple out of warranty.
Posted By: smithrjd Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
Bosch or Thermador, same company and for the most part same dishwashers.
Posted By: kw565 Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
Originally Posted by jmdriver
Originally Posted by CRJ1960
Had one named Jennifer that wasn’t worth a chit!

I have the current model. Not much has changed. I’m looking into the Bosch.

I had the older model, never was worth a crap!
Posted By: Ben_Lurkin Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
GE. Bought it about 6 mo ago. SS tub, steam option, heated & vented drying - important if you like dry dishes. Food disposal in it - also important if you want clean dishes unless you prewash everything first. Kinda defeats the purpose. It’s the super quiet model, can’t hear it unless you are standing in front of it. We had an LG before. Should have replaced that POS sooner and it wasn’t that old.
Posted By: NWRancher Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
We have what's supposed to be a top-of-the-line LG. True, it's quiet unlike the previous KitchenAid but it's nothing but junk. Seems like once a week the touch controls freeze up and the only way to "solve" the issue is to power cycle the breaker at the panel. LG Tech Support was zero help. NEVER again LG.
Posted By: atvalaska Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
Bosh. Any level is better than the rest... fine home building magazine ...an me ,
Posted By: MadMooner Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
My GE damn near caught fire. Melted the box that holds the motherboard thingy. Stunk up the house bad.

Put a Samsung in. (Knocking on wood)
Posted By: NVhntr Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
Originally Posted by CashisKing
Originally Posted by RipSnort
Get a Miele. These washers are astoundingly better than anything in my experience.

RS


Friend of mine has a Miele (I think it at least)... about 35-40 years old and never a hick-up.

Very impressive stuff.


Miele is what we would install in the fire stations here. Those guys were hard on appliances and those seemed to hold up the best.
Posted By: NDsnowman Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
Bosch
Posted By: DouginAlaska Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
My wife is the best but we have a Bosch for a backup! Works great!
Posted By: Gibby Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
Teenagers . They only last seven years though.
Posted By: jimy Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
I have found that if I put wine in my dish washer, it cleans the pool also !
Posted By: k80titus Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
I had a Kitchen aid that I replaced every part on I think. Did it myself and kept it running 10 yrs.

Then I got a Bosch. 15 yrs no problem. Better design. Less moving parts. Less electrical.
Posted By: Greatlaker Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
Bought the lowest price GE we could find that also had the stainless interior. After 15 months the motor quit. Repairman said he saw it all the time on cheap GEs. Never again. Two years into a kitchen aid, sometimes motherboard freezes and needs to restart at the breaker.
Posted By: CharlieFoxtrot Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
It’s a dishwasher. Don’t overthink it.

Guy in town sells Whirlpool, Maytag, Bosch, Miele, and a few others I don’t remember. I asked which he repaired the most and which were the most reliable. He said they’re all pretty much the same these days. I went with a higher end Whirlpool and it works just fine. Quiet and clean dishes.
Posted By: noKnees Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
We have fairly hard water and I have gone through two fairly expensive units in less than except able times , so I have been buying cheap GE units. The first lasted 6-7 years and the second is going on 2 years now.

I have found that a repair guy costs for a good unit costs more than a GE does new and getting one to come quick with out me spending a day of work waiting. I can install the GE in about 30 minutes. they are really pretty simple and a lot of repairs you can do your self in just a few minutes. On the down side its fairly loud.
Posted By: KFWA Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
Originally Posted by Greatlaker
Bought the lowest price GE we could find that also had the stainless interior. After 15 months the motor quit. Repairman said he saw it all the time on cheap GEs. Never again. Two years into a kitchen aid, sometimes motherboard freezes and needs to restart at the breaker.


based on my anectdotal experience, GE is the last appliance brand I would buy. But knock on wood, I've yet to have a bad experience with Samsung and people on here say they are a nightmare. Everything I have is Samsung except the Bosch dishwasher. Its been so good (Bosch), if I can afford it, that will be my choice for any future appliance.
Posted By: Kenneth66 Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
Originally Posted by hanco
The blue difference between a cheap one and a good one is how much noise it makes. That’s what the appliance boys where I used to work told me.


Two things , the amount of noise would depend on how your dishwasher was serviced 👍
Secondly , we’re in the hell is a video of dish washer washing dishes 😀
Posted By: Crow hunter Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
Originally Posted by CharlieFoxtrot
It’s a dishwasher. Don’t overthink it.

Guy in town sells Whirlpool, Maytag, Bosch, Miele, and a few others I don’t remember. I asked which he repaired the most and which were the most reliable. He said they’re all pretty much the same these days. I went with a higher end Whirlpool and it works just fine. Quiet and clean dishes.


This^^^

About 15 years ago I remodeled my house. I put in upper-mid range Maytag stuff with the only requirement that the dishwasher be quiet, and it is. Since then the handle has broken twice ($30 off eBay) but otherwise it’s been good, it’s quiet and gets the dishes clean. It didn’t break the bank, does what it’s supposed to do, and has lasted a good while.

Most appliances are made by a couple of companies so there’s not really any difference between them. I’m not putting a dishwasher that costs more than a pickup in my house so I can wow the neighbors. If a $700 dishwasher goes out then buy another and spend the hour putting it in. It doesn’t need to last 80 years and have lasers.
Posted By: Dillonbuck Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
Originally Posted by Kenneth66
Originally Posted by hanco
The blue difference between a cheap one and a good one is how much noise it makes. That’s what the appliance boys where I used to work told me.


Two things , the amount of noise would depend on how your dishwasher was serviced 👍
Secondly , we’re in the hell is a video of dish washer washing dishes 😀



You ask, don't forget that.

This guy is a duke among geeks.
I laugh at his mannerisms, and how far down rabbit holes he goes.
But, I go right along, so...🤓!


https://youtu.be/_rBO8neWw04
Posted By: OldmanoftheSea Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
Originally Posted by Vic_in_Va
Originally Posted by smokepole
Get one that's versatile. Did you know that you can convert some dishwashers to lawnmowers?

You might have to start it for her but.....


Sandwich dispenser, too!

get one with the sheet washer and skidmark eraser setting....
I will warn you that they can be expensive..
Posted By: Kenneth66 Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
Originally Posted by Dillonbuck
Originally Posted by Kenneth66
Originally Posted by hanco
The blue difference between a cheap one and a good one is how much noise it makes. That’s what the appliance boys where I used to work told me.


Two things , the amount of noise would depend on how your dishwasher was serviced 👍
Secondly , we’re in the hell is a video of dish washer washing dishes 😀



You ask, don't forget that.

This guy is a duke among geeks.
I laugh at his mannerisms, and how far down rabbit holes he goes.
But, I go right along, so...🤓!


https://youtu.be/_rBO8neWw04



LMAO , ok , your right . I asked for it , but hanco being hanco it wasn’t the dish washer I was thinking about .
But as we know , ya just can’t have everything .
Kenneth
Posted By: wabigoon Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
The noise level is mostly the amount of insulation.
Posted By: hanco Re: Dishwasher - 01/25/22
She is in Aruba today!
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