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Can't even imagine the horror of watching the poor guy get eaten by a 14' Great White, that had to be traumatizing for those that witnessed it.

Great White attack
And even more so for the victim. Lady here in Maine got the big chop two summers ago by a White. Happened 10 feet from her daughter. Nearly bitten in two.
Damn, the gulls were on it from the start too.
Sometimes your number is just up. Death by shark is pretty rare, I'd be more worried about being shot by my girl friends husband slipping out the bedroom window after he came home early.
The second you enter the ocean, you just went to the bottom of the food chain! My scuba instructor told me that in 1966. Still enters my mind, every time I see the ocean.
That worthless video shows nothing, why even put it in the article? F u cking idiots.
Damn. One of our sons lives here, two blocks from the beach. Surfs all the time. This sucks.
That guy was not a good photographer.
swimming in the ocean lost a lot of its appeal to me after all the shark attacks all around us on the outer banks a couple of years ago. the day we got to avalon we hit the beach and wondered why hardly anybody was swimming. come to find out a guy right down the beach got a chunk taken out of his ass right before that. same trip some kid got their arm chomped off on a mainland beach. funny how the local news never said anything about it. had to read about it on the internet news.
Back when I was a punk and living on Guam there were several sharks that seemed interested in making a meal of me. There is nothing quite so swift in altering intent than a speargun.
Originally Posted by DigitalDan
Back when I was a punk and living on Guam there were several sharks that seemed interested in making a meal of me. There is nothing quite so swift in altering intent than a speargun.

Maybe a boomstick?


Oops, bangstick
That is not a usual area of Sydney for swimmers. Had to look it up as I never heard of it and I was born there.

All Sydney swimming beaches are netted off which is why there has been no shark attacks there for 60+ years. That was the alarm bell, which meant that the location stated had to be wrong in some way. The area of the attack is open water outside Sydney Heads and no-one with a brain would swim in that unprotected water.

Secondly, Every Aussie knows that wearing a wet suit is ringing the dinner bell as you look like a seal, the White Sharks' main prey.
Completely avoidable death.
Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by DigitalDan
Back when I was a punk and living on Guam there were several sharks that seemed interested in making a meal of me. There is nothing quite so swift in altering intent than a speargun.

Maybe a boomstick?


Oops, bangstick


Oh GI, bang stick kirr bad boys vewy quick. Where is fun? You can't change a mind when you brow it arr to pieces!
Posted that video unedited on FB this morning.
What's your name again?
Chrissie!
Where are we going?
Swimming!
Originally Posted by Heym06
The second you enter the ocean, you just went to the bottom of the food chain! My scuba instructor told me that in 1966. Still enters my mind, every time I see the ocean.


This struck me as I was swimming in that cold, emerald-colored water near Ensenada on the west coast of the Baja on a February. A couple hundred yards out, it struck me that this was a wintering area of some of the world’s Great Whites. I admit to feeling half frantic as I scrambled up on the beach.

The scary thing about the water there, though a beautiful blue-green, it was opaque and you couldn’t see your hand a foot under the surface.

Cured me.

I can’t imagine swimming there in an unprotected area.
Reason 361 to stay the hell out of the ocean.
Uncensored video here,

https://worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhD8z98mTyTBrm5OB9
Originally Posted by AussieGunWriter
That is not a usual area of Sydney for swimmers. Had to look it up as I never heard of it and I was born there.

All Sydney swimming beaches are netted off which is why there has been no shark attacks there for 60+ years. That was the alarm bell, which meant that the location stated had to be wrong in some way. The area of the attack is open water outside Sydney Heads and no-one with a brain would swim in that unprotected water.

Secondly, Every Aussie knows that wearing a wet suit is ringing the dinner bell as you look like a seal, the White Sharks' main prey.
Completely avoidable death.


I've swum at Little Bay. It is not far from Maroubra, and quite close to Malabar Rifle Range. It is one of a whole string of beaches down the coast in Sydney, and quite near the entrance to Botany Bay.

In relation to meshing, this is not at every beach, but only selected beaches, and not there every day. The meshing doesn't go all the way along a beach either, nor provide a complete barrier. It is only there to discourage big sharks from settling in. There are any number of ocean baths, either netted enclosures on the beach (usually about the size of an Olympic pool) or dug into the rock, so those who want to be in a fenced area have that as an option, but if you are going to surf or bodysurf or snorkel you are out there where the blokes in grey suits live.

Wearing a wetsuit, splashing around off rocks where seals may be found, that may have been a factor. Getting well out by yourself too. It may have been that the shark mistook the victim for a seal. Having said that I've spearfished off that same bit of coastline, in a wetsuit, and while I've seen sharks they've left me alone and I them.

The risk is really very small - the last fatal attack in Sydney was in the '60s. Nasty if you are the one they hit, but not something to worry about really.
Originally Posted by 1badf350
What's your name again?
Chrissie!
Where are we going?
Swimming!


Farewell and adieu to you fair Spanish ladies....
As dan_oz says, the risk is very small, more likely to die driving to and from the beach.

RIP to the swimmer.
Big deal, it’s more exciting reading about hunters getting eaten by grizzlies. It happens more often and is just as gruesome.

No one wants to watch a person die, but everyone runs to see it happen. People are fickle.
"Simon Nellist, a 35-year-old ocean lover who spent much of his time in the sea and had been training for the Malabar ocean swim this weekend."

https://www.9news.com.au/national/s...ney/623fd916-8f8e-4f60-8813-59a79b97b8eb
Was at Coogee beach back in ‘19 and at Sunshine Coast in early ‘20 at sales meetings. Water was wonderful, don’t know if the beach was netted or not.
While there’s probably as many or more attacks in the U.S., entering the water in Australia gives one a bit of pause……

But, I go in off the sand and not rocks, no wetsuit, no surfing, and never over titty deep!
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How shallow do you have to stay to be safe from shark attack?
Originally Posted by Hastings
How shallow do you have to stay to be safe from shark attack?


Problem is they make so many different models of sharks. I heard some factoid on shark week that the majority of attacks happen in less than 3 feet of water.
Bull sharks can go into freshwater and survive.
Shark attacks are dramatic, but quite rare. As someone said, you are more likely to get killed in a car crash while driving to the beach, than to be killed by a shark.
Originally Posted by Gooch_McGrundle

Problem is they make so many different models of sharks. I heard some factoid on shark week that the majority of attacks happen in less than 3 feet of water.


I think the previous shark death in Sydney happened in about 3' of water. A bull shark.

The Mail Online is saying the dead guy from yesterday was not just some random tourist but a British diving instructor who was a vocal advocate against shark nets on beaches, saying they "protect no one."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...uled-death-great-white-shark-Sydney.html

No longer a tragedy, this is a contender for the 2022 Darwin Award.
Originally Posted by Hastings
How shallow do you have to stay to be safe from shark attack?


the attacks on the outer banks a few years ago were in about 3' of water. just off the beach. when we went to portsmouth island for the day i saw something very long swimming just off shore in about that depth. it looked to be around 5-8 feet long. really took all the fun out of the beach.
Originally Posted by tjm10025
Originally Posted by Gooch_McGrundle

Problem is they make so many different models of sharks. I heard some factoid on shark week that the majority of attacks happen in less than 3 feet of water.


I think the previous shark death in Sydney happened in about 3' of water. A bull shark.

The Mail Online is saying the dead guy from yesterday was not just some random tourist but a British diving instructor who was a vocal advocate against shark nets on beaches, saying they "protect no one."

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...uled-death-great-white-shark-Sydney.html

No longer a tragedy, this is a contender for the 2022 Darwin Award.




Or another verse to “Ironic” by Alanis Morissette.
Originally Posted by MontanaMarine

Interesting, as that was feeding behavior from the looks of it, and many (most?) attacks by white sharks on humans appear to be of the exploratory type. Apparently, once they figure out a dude or dudette isn't a fat filled blubber sack with fins, they usually just stop.

But that dude looked like he was being eaten like a seal would be.
Sharks gotta eat. Same as the worms.
Been swimming in the Atlantic all my life. I’ve seen several sharks while out there. Luckily never had a problem.
Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Bull sharks can go into freshwater and survive.


So can the Great White.
There is a documentary on a swimmer killed in fresh water, inland in New Jersey, around a century ago. The shark was later identified as a Great White.
Originally Posted by AussieGunWriter
Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Bull sharks can go into freshwater and survive.


So can the Great White.
There is a documentary on a swimmer killed in fresh water, inland in New Jersey, around a century ago. The shark was later identified as a Great White.
That was a bull shark not a white.
On the shore. Been to Kehei, Oahu a few times this year and made the mistake of reading the shark attack reports. Kept a good scan while snorkeling.
Originally Posted by stxhunter
Originally Posted by AussieGunWriter
Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Bull sharks can go into freshwater and survive.


So can the Great White.
There is a documentary on a swimmer killed in fresh water, inland in New Jersey, around a century ago. The shark was later identified as a Great White.
That was a bull shark not a white.

Correct. It was thought to be a white because they had nearly simultaneously experienced attacks in the open surf from whites. Or what they thought were whites. But in hindsight the whole thing might have just been bulls. The inshore attack most certainly was a bull.
I'll say he died doing what he loved. Tempting the fickle finger of fate advocating for swimming in shark infested waters, RIP and condolences to your fiance.

Reminds me of the guy living with and getting eaten by his beloved grizzlies.
Another reason added to the list of why I hate swimming. 😀
Originally Posted by simonkenton7
Shark attacks are dramatic, but quite rare. As someone said, you are more likely to get killed in a car crash while driving to the beach, than to be killed by a shark.



I'll take my chances in the car.
Just need an orca escort while swimming, they'll take care of the sharks for you. Bull, tiger, white - doesn't matter.
The guy was wearing a dark wetsuit, may have looked like a seal to the shark. I dunno how much vision plays in great white prey selection.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/unsettling-new-theory-how-brit-26274318
Who gives a chit how "rare" it is? Or how you're more likely to die in a car crash. It's still added risk. I can't believe people are amazed when this happens.

If there was a full moon and you knew there was a werewolf somewhere in the states....you going outside? I sure as helll ain't.
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
The guy was wearing a dark wetsuit, may have looked like a seal to the shark. I dunno how much vision plays in great white prey selection.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/unsettling-new-theory-how-brit-26274318


They have fairly large eyes and many reports of their adult feeding behavior is to target a silhouette above them. It's one of the reasons surfers are hit in certain areas. Swift attack from above on a shape that is similar to a seal, sea lion, elephant seal. Once the shark gets the feel of a puny human on a fiberglass board, they usually drop the attack when they apparently realize it's not a blubber filled sack.

There's even videos on youtuber showing how to paint stripes on your surfboard to prevent attacks.
Originally Posted by Taco2fiddy7
Just need an orca escort while swimming, they'll take care of the sharks for you. Bull, tiger, white - doesn't matter.


Just their recorded vocalizations have shown to keep sharks away…
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
The guy was wearing a dark wetsuit, may have looked like a seal to the shark. I dunno how much vision plays in great white prey selection.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/unsettling-new-theory-how-brit-26274318


They have fairly large eyes and many reports of their adult feeding behavior is to target a silhouette above them. It's one of the reasons surfers are hit in certain areas. Swift attack from above on a shape that is similar to a seal, sea lion, elephant seal. Once the shark gets the feel of a puny human on a fiberglass board, they usually drop the attack when they apparently realize it's not a blubber filled sack.

There's even videos on youtuber showing how to paint stripes on your surfboard to prevent attacks.


Yeah, on the whole stripe thing - a member of the local kayak fishing forum had a "sample bite" incident at Bean Hollow a few years back. His hull had been painted with the black striped pattern that was supposed to deter sharks. So, no....

So far, no norcal kayak angler that I'm aware of has been hit while deploying a Shark Shield, but the future is a vast place.
Apparently That area is brimming with Bonito, Kingfish and other bait in February.

Been a few people chopped on around Sydney, including a RAN Clearance Diver at Garden Island in Sydney Harbour a few years ago that cost him and arm and a leg. Nasty things Bull Sharks.

During the Brisbane Flood in January 2011 Bull sharks in the Brisbane River were washed into the dams at a golf course, was a video of them on YouTube. Didn’t want to be retrieving your ball from the water trap!
It wouldn't happen in Darwin - the crocs eat the sharks up there
Originally Posted by dogcatcher223
Another reason added to the list of why I hate swimming. 😀


+1
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and many (most?) attacks by white sharks on humans appear to be of the exploratory type.


I know that gets stated a lot but I watched a guy talk about this once who had a different take. Great Whites hunt large prey like tuna and seals. Holding a large creature like that in your mouth while it's in it's death throes is a good way to lose an eye to a seals teeth or a tuna's fin. So what many of these great whites do is deliver one bite usually to the lower half of it's prey. This damages the animals main means of propulsion and causes them to start bleeding out. So the animal can't swim well enough anymore to go very far and within a few minutes loses enough blood to render it unconscious. Then the shark returns for a nice calm safe meal. The reason humans don't get fully eaten like the seal or the tuna is that they are very often pulled from the water by other humans who also render first aide to stop the bleeding. Even then many still die before they reach a hospital. But leave those human victims in the water and see what happens. Bit by mistake my ass.

Here is the best video of the Sydney attack I have seen. Near the end you can see the torso of the man in the water. Looks like both legs are gone and he is already dead. Then the shark returns to take the rest of him.

I’ve never heard of a shark attack at Walmart.

Swim where the shark lives, just don’t be surprised when you become it’s dinner.
Originally Posted by Hastings
How shallow do you have to stay to be safe from shark attack?

Apparently 30" isn't shallow enough.

It's the first fatal shark attack in Sydney since 1963 when actress Marcia Hathaway, 32, was mauled while on a boating trip in Sugarloaf Bay in Middle Harbour.

She was attacked by a bull shark in just 30 inches (76cm) of water as her fiancé and friends watched on in horror.

'I heard Marcia scream "oh dear", and then she was dragged into deep water,' her fiance Frederick Knight said at the time.

'I started to run to her and saw the fin of a shark.

'It seemed to have grabbed her on the calf of her right leg.

'When I reached Marcia, it struck again and seized her on the thigh.'
People are "more likely to die in a car crash" because they typically drive in a car every fawking day. Go put your ass in the ocean every friggin' day and I'll bet the odds of being bitten by a shark will increase dramatically.
Originally Posted by Triggernosis
People are "more likely to die in a car crash" because they typically drive in a car every fawking day. Go put your ass in the ocean every friggin' day and I'll bet the odds of being bitten by a shark will increase dramatically.


Exactly. It's like that stat about most people being attacked in 3 feet of water. Well yeah because about 95 percent of the people who go in the ocean every year don't wade out any farther than that. In order for a shark to bite a human they both have to be in the same place. If almost all of the humans are in 3 feet or less waters then yeah that's were most of the bites will happen. Let the exact same number of people start swimming around on the surface in 20 feet of water and watch what happens to that statistic.
Originally Posted by Willto
Originally Posted by Triggernosis
People are "more likely to die in a car crash" because they typically drive in a car every fawking day. Go put your ass in the ocean every friggin' day and I'll bet the odds of being bitten by a shark will increase dramatically.


Exactly. It's like that stat about most people being attacked in 3 feet of water. Well yeah because about 95 percent of the people who go in the ocean every year don't wade out any farther than that. In order for a shark to bite a human they both have to be in the same place. If almost all of the humans are in 3 feet or less waters then yeah that's were most of the bites will happen. Let the exact same number of people start swimming around on the surface in 20 feet of water and watch what happens to that statistic.




Bingo!
Originally Posted by Scott_Thornley
Originally Posted by Valsdad
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
The guy was wearing a dark wetsuit, may have looked like a seal to the shark. I dunno how much vision plays in great white prey selection.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/unsettling-new-theory-how-brit-26274318


They have fairly large eyes and many reports of their adult feeding behavior is to target a silhouette above them. It's one of the reasons surfers are hit in certain areas. Swift attack from above on a shape that is similar to a seal, sea lion, elephant seal. Once the shark gets the feel of a puny human on a fiberglass board, they usually drop the attack when they apparently realize it's not a blubber filled sack.

There's even videos on youtuber showing how to paint stripes on your surfboard to prevent attacks.


Yeah, on the whole stripe thing - a member of the local kayak fishing forum had a "sample bite" incident at Bean Hollow a few years back. His hull had been painted with the black striped pattern that was supposed to deter sharks. So, no....

So far, no norcal kayak angler that I'm aware of has been hit while deploying a Shark Shield, but the future is a vast place.



Interesting Scott. Thanks for that info. Just in case I ever get to the coast again.
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