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Posted By: RockyRaab Navy Recovered that F-35 - 03/04/22
Got it back this week. STORY HERE
I have been wondering what was going on with the crashed jet.
Posted By: bluefish Re: Navy Recovered that F-35 - 03/04/22
From 2.5 miles down no less.
Posted By: cas6969 Re: Navy Recovered that F-35 - 03/04/22
I was part of the recover operations, but of course it's sensitive classified stuff, so I'm not really able to talk about it.






It wasn't easy holding my breath that long, I'll tell you that.






Luckily she started right up and I was able to fly her out.
Posted By: ruffcutt Re: Navy Recovered that F-35 - 03/04/22
Women drivers
Posted By: tjm10025 Re: Navy Recovered that F-35 - 03/04/22

Can anything useful be salvaged or are they just going to melt it down?

I heard sailors on the deck were hurt, hope they are doing fine.
Posted By: Beoceorl Re: Navy Recovered that F-35 - 03/04/22
Originally Posted by tjm10025

Can anything useful be salvaged or are they just going to melt it down?


The recovery wasn't for reusing parts. It was to keep anyone else from getting a sample of the technology.
Posted By: JeffyD Re: Navy Recovered that F-35 - 03/04/22
Maybe there's hope for my new Porsche on that sunken cargo ship. 😂
Posted By: tjm10025 Re: Navy Recovered that F-35 - 03/04/22

Yeah, I understand that. But since we got it back anyway ...
Posted By: rem141r Re: Navy Recovered that F-35 - 03/04/22
i hear they got it for sale on craigslist

"Ran when parked"
Posted By: rainshot Re: Navy Recovered that F-35 - 03/04/22
China likely has the plans and made most of that gee whiz stuff they’re trying to protect.
Originally Posted by tjm10025

Yeah, I understand that. But since we got it back anyway ...


Would you bet your life on any of the salvaged sh.it we got back anyway? LOL
Posted By: cas6969 Re: Navy Recovered that F-35 - 03/04/22
It's gonna make a great YouTube "revival" video.
I wish they would release the name of the pilot. I wonder if it is the sister of Kara Hultgreen.
Posted By: Beoceorl Re: Navy Recovered that F-35 - 03/04/22
Originally Posted by tjm10025

Yeah, I understand that. But since we got it back anyway ...


Well, let's break it down:

The computer/electronics systems are going to be toast after sitting in salt water. Any water tight compartments that might have protected them have probably been compromised. Plus they were almost certainly subjected to greater stresses than they were designed to survive.

The RAM is probably more robust that what we used on early generation stealth, but I doubt if it is in any usable condition after the stresses of the crash combined with the salt water.

Maybe some structural components, but they would have to be certified as still meeting spec. Anything in this category would probably be far cheaper to replace.

I just don't see anything that would be cost effective to salvage, except to melt down/recycle as scrap.

I see it as a total loss in terms of $.
Posted By: akrange Re: Navy Recovered that F-35 - 03/05/22
It’s the Shell that they Wanted ..
Originally Posted by JeffyD
Maybe there's hope for my new Porsche on that sunken cargo ship. 😂


lol.......the bright side is seawater immersion should get rid of any smoke smell.............
Posted By: mathman Re: Navy Recovered that F-35 - 03/05/22
Originally Posted by JeffyD
Maybe there's hope for my new Porsche on that sunken cargo ship. 😂


A friend of mine is waiting for his custom ordered Audi to be delivered. According to what he's found out so far his dealership has four cars lost on that ship, but his isn't one of them.
They don't care if it's scrap or not- - - -as long as it's not somewhere in China being reverse engineered. The Russians did that with a crashed B-29 back in the 1940's. I hope the Navy keel-hauled the pilot for that screwup, though! At least he wasn't named McStain!
Hotrod gets it.
Anyone remember the Glomar Challenger which was supposed to be deep ocean oil drilling? That was to pick up a Commie nuke boat for spying/status checking the Soviet nuke fleet.

I'd bet there was a stealthy attack boat on station within hours and the crash location sensored up so a plankton couldn't float by without being recorded.
Posted By: JohnBurns Re: Navy Recovered that F-35 - 03/05/22
Originally Posted by alpinecrick
Originally Posted by JeffyD
Maybe there's hope for my new Porsche on that sunken cargo ship. 😂


lol.......the bright side is seawater immersion should get rid of any smoke smell.............


As well as that New Car Smell.
Posted By: 22250rem Re: Navy Recovered that F-35 - 03/05/22
Originally Posted by Hotrod_Lincoln
They don't care if it's scrap or not- - - -as long as it's not somewhere in China being reverse engineered. The Russians did that with a crashed B-29 back in the 1940's. I hope the keel-hauled the pilot for that screwup, though!

China's too busy for that right now. They're busy reverse engineering all the latest and greatest military technology gizmos that we left for them in Afghanistan.
Posted By: Sprint11 Re: Navy Recovered that F-35 - 03/05/22
Bet that was a cool recovery. Watched this video about the recovery (theft?) of the Soviet K-129. Project Azorian I think. Fascinating stuff.
Originally Posted by Hotrod_Lincoln
They don't care if it's scrap or not- - - -as long as it's not somewhere in China being reverse engineered. The Russians did that with a crashed B-29 back in the 1940's. I hope the keel-hauled the pilot for that screwup, though!



Yes the fallback plan for B29s that were bombing Japan was, if they couldn't make it back to a US base, was for them to land in our ally, Russia. And more than one did. The Russians began building their new fleet of bombers, an exact copy of the B29.
Did they salvage the pilot’s career?
Posted By: Beoceorl Re: Navy Recovered that F-35 - 03/05/22
Originally Posted by simonkenton7
Originally Posted by Hotrod_Lincoln
They don't care if it's scrap or not- - - -as long as it's not somewhere in China being reverse engineered. The Russians did that with a crashed B-29 back in the 1940's. I hope the keel-hauled the pilot for that screwup, though!



Yes the fallback plan for B29s that were bombing Japan was, if they couldn't make it back to a US base, was for them to land in our ally, Russia. And more than one did. The Russians began building their new fleet of bombers, an exact copy of the B29.


Yep, the Russkies interred the ships and crews. Later they made a rivet-for-rivet copy at the behest of Stalin.

TU-4 (NATAO Reporting name Bull)
[Linked Image from upload.wikimedia.org]

One of their biggest challenges in copying the B-29 was the differences in the metric size sheet metal they had available versus the English measure sheet metal in the original.

They did the same thing with an unexploded Taiwanese Sidewinder missile that got stuck in the tail end of a Chinese MIG during the Second Taiwan Strait Crisis in 1958. It became the Soviet AA-2 "Atoll", and the Chinese PL-2.
Posted By: las Re: Navy Recovered that F-35 - 03/05/22
Originally Posted by alpinecrick
Originally Posted by JeffyD
Maybe there's hope for my new Porsche on that sunken cargo ship. 😂


lol.......the bright side is seawater immersion should get rid of any smoke smell.............


Still gonna smell like fish.
Originally Posted by Beoceorl
Originally Posted by tjm10025

Can anything useful be salvaged or are they just going to melt it down?


The recovery wasn't for reusing parts. It was to keep anyone else from getting a sample of the technology.

And by anyone else means the Chinese.
"If it smells like fish, it's a gourmet dish- - - - -If it smells like cologne, leave it alone!"
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Did they salvage the pilot’s career?


He's done.

I got out 21 years ago and he'd have been done then. I doubt it's changed now.
Posted By: 5thShock Re: Navy Recovered that F-35 - 03/05/22
from the horse's mouth...

https://news.usni.org/2022/03/03/navy-recovers-crashed-f-35c-from-depths-of-south-china-sea
Posted By: navlav8r Re: Navy Recovered that F-35 - 03/05/22
Originally Posted by simonkenton7
I wish they would release the name of the pilot. I wonder if it is the sister of Kara Hultgreen.



No, it’s a male. I had several of his simulator training events and ground school classes with him. He was a good student and did well in his training here. That’s why he got F-35s.
He’ll have a Fleet Naval Aviator Evaluation Board (FNAEB) and either,
1-keep his wings and continue as if nothing happened,
2-keep his wings and be moved to another unit or another aircraft,
3-lose his wings and be removed from a flying status.

My guess….first two are unlikely due to the high profile of this mishap.

Flying around the boat is very unforgiving of even small mistakes.
Posted By: mathman Re: Navy Recovered that F-35 - 03/05/22
3 - forever be "that guy" wherever he is assigned
Originally Posted by cas6969
I was part of the recover operations, but of course it's sensitive classified stuff, so I'm not really able to talk about it.






It wasn't easy holding my breath that long, I'll tell you that.






Luckily she started right up and I was able to fly her out.
why not ,Chuck Norris did the same thing with a buried 4 X4 in Lone Wolf McQuade
Posted By: Tarquin Re: Navy Recovered that F-35 - 03/05/22
Originally Posted by cas6969
I was part of the recover operations, but of course it's sensitive classified stuff, so I'm not really able to talk about it.






It wasn't easy holding my breath that long, I'll tell you that.






Luckily she started right up and I was able to fly her out.





grin
Posted By: AJ300MAG Re: Navy Recovered that F-35 - 03/05/22
Originally Posted by mathman
3 - forever be "that guy" wherever he is assigned

Once had a battlestaff commander who was a naval captain. Rumor was that he splashed an airplane. When asked he admitted to the incident but declined to elaborate.

Hell, how many aircraft did McLame ding up?
Posted By: RockyRaab Re: Navy Recovered that F-35 - 03/05/22
There's a huge difference between bending an airplane on a combat mission versus doing the same damage on a training flight. In combat, almost anything can and will be forgiven. In training, almost nothing is.
Originally Posted by AJ300MAG
how many aircraft did McLame ding up?


Four or five, but when Daddy's the big boss, who's counting?
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