Joe Biden is a habitual liar

You can still buy a cannon. 12lb bronze napoleon is pricey, but if you are into it....

Tune out the noise. This whole campaign is nonsense. Further, there's never been more broad public support for guns and high capacity magazines.

As has often been said a Brown Bess musket was the military grade assault weapon of its day.

I much prefer the French pattern musket! 👍😉

I much prefer the French pattern musket! 👍😉

The first muskets adopted by the US after independence were on that pattern.

Yes,They were simply referred to as the French Pattern. War dept had lots of leftover parts after the conflict. Many of the early type I, 1795 Springfield muskets utilized surplus French locks and parts.

Oops an edit!! On the movie set with my 1795 "French Pattern" Springfield

According to Sleepy Joe, people couldn't buy a cannon when the 2nd Amendment was passed.....

Um... yeah, they could. And did.

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Oops an edit!! On the movie set with my 1795 "French Pattern" Springfield

And I do believe anyone of a mind to could build their own rifle, out of parts they got from wherever or made themselves.

Sheesh.

I prefer the carronade loaded with grapeshot.

"And with a wisp of grapeshot, thus ended the French Revolution"

Thomas Carlyle

Grape shot/cannister is nasty. The original street sweeper.

Grape shot/cannister is nasty. The original street sweeper.

Easy to make a shotgun from hardware store parts. Not expensive, either.

There was a guy in England that made some full autos out of hardware store parts. His name escapes me right now. Wrote a book about it.

June 28, 2021 at 3:00 a.m. EDT

“And I might add: The Second Amendment, from the day it was passed, limited the type of people who could own a gun and what type of weapon you could own. You couldn’t buy a cannon.”

— President Biden, remarks on gun violence, June 23

The president offered this aside as he made a litany of his regular points about the need for background checks and what he says was the effectiveness of bans on assault weapons and large-capacity magazines that expired.

Parenthetical asides from a prepared text often trip up presidents, especially Biden. In this case, he repeated a claim — that Americans were prohibited from owning cannons — that has already been fact-checked as false when he made it during the presidential campaign.
The Facts

The cannon element is what mostly interests us here, but we should also address Biden’s framing about the Second Amendment, which was part of the Bill of Rights adopted in 1791.

The meaning of the Second Amendment — “A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed” — has long been debated. But experts said Biden especially mischaracterized it.

“Everything in that statement is wrong,” said David Kopel, the research director and Second Amendment project director at the Independence Institute. After 1791, “there were no federal laws about the type of gun you could own, and no states limited the kind of gun you could own.” Not until the early 1800s were there any efforts to pass restrictions on carrying concealed weapons, he said.

“I think what he’s saying here is that the Second Amendment was never understood to guarantee everyone the right to own all types of weapons, which I believe is true,” said Kermit Roosevelt, a constitutional law professor at the University of Pennsylvania. “As phrased, it sounds like the Second Amendment itself limited ownership, which is not true.”

Kopel noted that some states placed gun-ownership restrictions on Native American tribes, including orders to disarm them, but the tribes under the Constitution at the time were treated as the equivalent of foreign nations.

Interestingly, during the campaign, Biden had asserted that the cannon restrictions happened during the Revolutionary War. “From the very beginning you weren’t allowed to have certain weapons,” Biden told Wired magazine in May 2020. “You weren’t allowed to own a cannon during the Revolutionary War as an individual.”

Historians at the time told PolitiFact there was no evidence this was the case. The Biden campaign could not point to any laws but seemed to suggest Biden’s point was more metaphorical than grounded in reality.

Now Biden has moved the cannon metaphor to some 20 years after the Revolutionary War — and it’s still wrong.

In fact, you do not have to look far in the Constitution to see that private individuals could own cannons. Article 1, Section 8, Clause 11 gives Congress the power to declare war. But there is another element of that clause that might seem strange to modern ears — Congress also had the power to “grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal.”

What’s that? These were special waivers that allowed private individuals to act as pirates on behalf of the United States against countries engaged in war with it. The “letter of marque” allowed a warship to cross into another country’s territory to take a ship, while a “letter of reprisal” gave authorization to bring the ship back to the home port of the capturer.

Individuals who were given these waivers and owned warships obviously also obtained cannons for use in battle.

The White House did not provide an explanation of Biden’s comment.
The Pinocchio Test

Some readers might think this is a relatively inconsequential flub. But we disagree. Every U.S. president has a responsibility to get American history correct, especially when he’s using a supposed history lesson in service of a political objective. The president’s push for more gun restrictions is an important part of his political platform, so he undercuts his cause when he cites faux facts.

Moreover, Biden has already been fact-checked on this claim — and it’s been deemed false. We have no idea where he conjured up this notion about a ban on cannon ownership in the early days of the Republic, but he needs to stop making this claim.

Four Pinocchios

And I do believe anyone of a mind to could build their own rifle, out of parts they got from wherever or made themselves.

Sheesh.

There was a guy in England that made some full autos out of hardware store parts. His name escapes me right now. Wrote a book about it.

Lutey. Wrote a book explaining it all.

The average idiot in America doesn't know any better either. Just start talking about cannons and other scary guns, and they'll eat that fear up.

Modern man seems to love being afraid. Terrified of everything. Eager to be "protected". Eager to be led. Eager to be taken care of.

He who sacrifices Liberty for security deserves neither Liberty, nor security. Frankly, I don't think they even deserve life.

And by the way, as long as the political "right" keeps on trying to stop gun control by talking about how it won't stop crime, or how we need to enforce the laws we already have (no, we don't), we will continue to lose... hell, we've already lost. The Right to Keep and Bear Arms is not dependent on crime statistics. It doesn't matter one whit if it affects the crime rate or not. Statistics on crime or using a gun to defend yourself or whatever is totally irrelevant. It's a RIGHT. It's about FIGHTING TYRANNICAL GOVERNMENT. Period. THIS is the issue. THIS is the reason.... but people are afraid to say that... it's so extreme! It's so anti-government! It's conspiracy theory wackiness! If your only argument against gun control is "crime", then you've already lost. You've given up and surrendered the field. You're letting your enemy dictate everything, even the words you say. I think this applies in virtually every aspect of life today. We have let the enemy take COMPLETE control over the way we speak and the way we think.

Whatever you say, bubba.

And it's "shill".

Of course. Biden is a retard.

Especially since the riots.

And a Pennsylvania long rifle was the Barret sniper rifle back then.
Hitting a man at 300yds was a huge thing with a long rifle and common.
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Heck, I have a cannon.

It’s a 1 bore (1.75”) parrot on a fortress carriage.

Shoots golf balls just fine (don’t do this in the woods with lots of trees- trust me, had to duck a bouncing golf ball for quite a while). It’ll shoot a 1lb Halibut weight through a 55 gallon drum with the drum not even moving. Takes about 700gr of Fg black powder per shot. I love shooting it, but only get <10 shots per lb of power. Have to save the shots for special occasions since Fg powder has become hard to come by.

Machine guns are simply made by someone knowing how they work. They can't regulate knowledge. Stens were made in basement shops in Israeli in the early fifties

I much prefer the French pattern musket! 👍😉

Tune out the noise. This whole campaign is nonsense. Further, there's never been more broad public support for guns and high capacity magazines.that is true ,but has never stopped democrats from pushing there gun control agenda on US citizens

Me too, superior in every way. I blame Napoleon fer mine by scaring the Brits into building millions of extra Besses, so many that twenty years later they were so cheap on the Milsurp market that even the Mexicans could afford ‘em.

Lutey. Wrote a book explaining it all.

Lutey. Wrote a book explaining it all.

roverboy;
Good evening to you sir, thanks for twigging my memory on that chap.

Here's a couple videos on his projects.



One running.



All the best and thanks again.

Dwayne

I wonder how many decent people are on some government list just because they did an online search about how to make some sort of firearm? At this point I'm sure biden and company view all of us as criminals.

Lots of good stuff on second and third model Besses found in shipwreck at Pass Cavallo!