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A human skull that's about 8,000 years old was found in the Minnesota River south of Sacred Heart.

The Renville County Sheriff's Office on Wednesday said two kayakers came across the bone in September 2021. The Midwest Medical Examiner's Office determined the bone was human, and the FBI's forensic anthropologist concluded the bone belonged to a young adult man.

The skull has a depressed area, which is consistent with blunt force trauma, the sheriff's office said.

Through Carbon-14 analysis, preliminary information indicates the man would have been alive between 5,500-6,000 BCE, so nearly 8,000 years ago.

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I’ve known some old heads, but......
Been voting Democrat for 8000 years, gotta be a MN record.
Damn, that's pretty close to the ending of the last glaciation in that area.
His “marine diet” is interesting. I’m sure the coastline was a little different back then. 😁
Gotta laugh about BCE E instead of BC. They use the same Person to separate time period.
No pic of the skull. Would be interesting to see if it was Mongoloid..... or Caucasoid.....
Originally Posted by Ringman
Gotta laugh about BCE E instead of BC. They use the same Person to separate time period.

Yep. Always pisses me off. Atheist bastards.
They were posting pics of the skull, but the Injuns got riled up and most sites took the pics down. It is only the top part of a skull, but amazing that much could survive in a river.

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Sheriff department officials posted a photo of the skull on Facebook Wednesday, but the post was later removed after Native Americans groups in Minnesota said publishing it was “very offensive to the Native American culture,” the New York Times reported.

Sheriff Scott Hable, who could not be reached for comment early Friday, said he was blown away by the miraculous find.


“I don’t think anybody was anticipating the news to come,” Hable told the newspaper.

The man likely traveled through parts of what is now Minnesota during the Archaic period in North America, Hable said.

A professor of anthropology at Minnesota State University said the man likely subsisted on plants, deer, fish and turtles and freshwater mussels in the area.

“There’s probably not that many people at that time wandering around Minnesota 8,000 years ago, because, like I said, the glaciers have only retreated a few thousand years before that,” Kathleen Blue told the Times. “That period, we don’t know much about it.”

Hable said the depression on the man’s skull showed evidence of “blunt force trauma,” but it’s unclear how he died.


But Blue said she believed the wound had healed since it appeared smooth and rounded in photos, indicating it wasn’t his cause of death.

“It would have been something he actually survived,” Blue said. “Bone has an amazing ability to try to sort of fix itself after there’s been a traumatic injury.”

The skull was most certainly from an ancestor of one of the Native American tribes in the area today, Blue said. It’s now expected to be returned to tribes in Minnesota, according to Hable.

“To say we were taken back is an understatement,” Hable told the Washington Post. “None of us were prepared for that.”
I’m trying to recall what I read about the Great Plains Seaway at the Missouri/Yellowstone Confluence Center when I was there a few years ago.
I don’t remember the time period, but there was a great shallow seaway that connected the Northern Pacific with the Gulf of Mexico. It split the continent of North America in two.
Could be this fellow lived on the coast in Minnesota!
7mm
Pretty interesting stuff.
Especially the diet.
Salt water closer via st lawerence system area
Than over continent to pacific.
Read alot about a possible meteor strike on glacier shelf north of great lakes region 13 to 15000 yrs ago caused the st lawerence system, Mississippi sytem and great lakes to form.
Also affected climate with massive dump of cold water into the alantic.
Which also is theorized why their is a 5 to 7 ft layer of silt in the artifact layers of about 4k years in the mid alantic coast area from the dump of cold water in the alantic and making those areas inhabitable.
Which also drove early man into the middle of the continent over the Appalachians.

All theory tied together in ways.
But still interesting reading just google fu,ing stuff.
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The skull was most certainly from an ancestor of one of the Native American tribes in the area today, Blue said. It’s now expected to be returned to tribes in Minnesota, according to Hable.

Having just a tiny bit of knowledge of certain things, I wonder what evidence she has to make that conclusion. If it was only a few thousand years after "ice out", how does she know which language group was in the area, passing through on their way to another area, or with that healed over knot in his skull maybe he was a captured slave from another group and not an ancestor at all?
Originally Posted by Valsdad
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The skull was most certainly from an ancestor of one of the Native American tribes in the area today, Blue said. It’s now expected to be returned to tribes in Minnesota, according to Hable.

Having just a tiny bit of knowledge of certain things, I wonder what evidence she has to make that conclusion. If it was only a few thousand years after "ice out", how does she know which language group was in the area, passing through on their way to another area, or with that healed over knot in his skull maybe he was a captured slave from another group and not an ancestor at all?


You are not allowed to question the narrative!
They need to open a murder investigation.
Quite possibly, he, if it was a he, never procreated.

Lots of assumptions.
Mafia hit....
I bet they voted Democrat too.
No doubt an ancient white person of tribal authority and privilege murdered that guy.......so 8000 yrs of reparations are in order.
I honestly can't think of a more worthless state than Minnesota.
Research also revealed that the indigenous tribe to which he belonged, murdered him after he said something that made sense.
The unfortunate victim has requested a mail in ballot for the 2022 elections. He also requested another 31 ballots for family members upstream who are unable to travel.
Originally Posted by Valsdad
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The skull was most certainly from an ancestor of one of the Native American tribes in the area today, Blue said. It’s now expected to be returned to tribes in Minnesota, according to Hable.

Having just a tiny bit of knowledge of certain things, I wonder what evidence she has to make that conclusion. If it was only a few thousand years after "ice out", how does she know which language group was in the area, passing through on their way to another area, or with that healed over knot in his skull maybe he was a captured slave from another group and not an ancestor at all?

She hasn’t a phuqing clue.
Forget the native Americans on this one. It’s highly likely that this guy was from a culture that predates and independent of the native genealogy.

The marine diet angle is interesting. 6-8K yrs is after the ice age and probable cataclysmic event(s) that caused it if the dating is right. I’m more and more of the impression that the ancient world was much more connected than we can imagine.
Everyone in Minnesota has dementia...no doubt this stupid fugk did too.
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Everyone in Minnesota has dementia...no doubt this stupid fugk did too.

Don't confuse being a stupid white person with dementia.
Originally Posted by 250Sav_age
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Everyone in Minnesota has dementia...no doubt this stupid fugk did too.

Don't confuse being a stupid white person with dementia.


Oops
Originally Posted by 250Sav_age
Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine
Everyone in Minnesota has dementia...no doubt this stupid fugk did too.

Don't confuse being a stupid white person with dementia.
Whatever Stoolhead.
Falling into the same pit as Kennewick Man, no proof of the skull being native. Yet the alledged scientists give into the nates, and off goes the skull!
Originally Posted by IZH27
Forget the native Americans on this one. It’s highly likely that this guy was from a culture that predates and independent of the native genealogy.

The marine diet angle is interesting. 6-8K yrs is after the ice age and probable cataclysmic event(s) that caused it if the dating is right. I’m more and more of the impression that the ancient world was much more connected than we can imagine.
Soultrean...

And many NA,s east of Mississippi have genetic tags linked to europe that west of the Mississippi don't have.


It's why Khanarella is a bytch at times I think.
Fuuging northwest Europe soultrean dna...

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️😄😄😄😄
At the time, +/- 8k years before the present, was there a connection to the oceans (Ottawa river? Champlain Sea?? ) close enough for there to have been marine food items available to the folks this person belonged to?

Was he a captured member of a group that had marine food available to them?

Was he a member of a group that had established trade with groups closer to marine areas, or who had access to sea run fish and such?

The "marine diet" aspect means not much to me. I had sardines the other day and live nowhere near the sea.
Facial reconstruction has revealed Bud Grant. Scientists are baffled.
Originally Posted by Stophel
Originally Posted by Valsdad
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The skull was most certainly from an ancestor of one of the Native American tribes in the area today, Blue said. It’s now expected to be returned to tribes in Minnesota, according to Hable.

Having just a tiny bit of knowledge of certain things, I wonder what evidence she has to make that conclusion. If it was only a few thousand years after "ice out", how does she know which language group was in the area, passing through on their way to another area, or with that healed over knot in his skull maybe he was a captured slave from another group and not an ancestor at all?


You are not allowed to question the narrative!

Yep. If testing reveals anything that casts the established narrative in doubt, the skull will be turned over to the Indian activists for "proper burial" (destruction).
Was it still wearin' that Helga-Hat?
Probably be a good place to arrowhead hunt.
Look for the terrian that gives clues.
Early to mid archaic stuff???
More importantly what is his gender pronoun?
Likely died of mosquito bites.

Everybody from Minnysoda knows that.

How do they know it's a he?
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
A human skull that's about 8,000 years old was found in the Minnesota River south of Sacred Heart.

The Renville County Sheriff's Office on Wednesday said two kayakers came across the bone in September 2021. The Midwest Medical Examiner's Office determined the bone was human, and the FBI's forensic anthropologist concluded the bone belonged to a young adult man.

The skull has a depressed area, which is consistent with blunt force trauma, the sheriff's office said.

Through Carbon-14 analysis, preliminary information indicates the man would have been alive between 5,500-6,000 BCE, so nearly 8,000 years ago.

Continued here….

https://www.q13fox.com/news/human-s...QDcATxpxyuuFpc9pSP2-ZYPdRfk5gLKDmuJzHXaY





It’s you brother Toby!!!
It is weird that this archaeological find will be handed over to the local Indians. It is almost impossible that the tribe that this guy belonged to were remotely related to the Indians who live in Minnesota today.

This is the Snettisham torque. This gold necklace weighs 2 pounds and was made in England 2,000 years ago by my ancestors, the Celts.
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Through DNA testing I can prove that I am 92 percent Celtic, with ancestors from Ireland, Wales, and England. I demand that the British government turn the Snettisham torque over to me.
They found two ......one of them is on loan to the mayor in Chicago...... she's wearing it ! ,
Originally Posted by simonkenton7
It is weird that this archaeological find will be handed over to the local Indians. It is almost impossible that the tribe that this guy belonged to were remotely related to the Indians who live in Minnesota today.

This is the Snettisham torque. This gold necklace weighs 2 pounds and was made in England 2,000 years ago by my ancestors, the Celts.
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Through DNA testing I can prove that I am 92 percent Celtic, with ancestors from Ireland, Wales, and England. I demand that the British government turn the Snettisham torque over to me.

Lmao.

He could have been one of the lost Indians from the WheretheFuchawie Tribe. 😜
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
He could have been one of the lost Indians from the WheretheFuchawie Tribe. 😜

Actually, he was the (former) guide/navigator of said tribe, hence the dent in his head... laugh

Ed
I don't believe for a minute that it was 8,000 yrs. old. I dont see how any bone can not rot away . I have deer skulls in the back yard that are 10 yrs old and showing a lot of age. I know some mud preserves, but not for 8,000 yrs .
Originally Posted by APDDSN0864
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
He could have been one of the lost Indians from the WheretheFuchawie Tribe. 😜

Actually, he was the (former) guide/navigator of said tribe, hence the dent in his head... laugh

Ed

LOL ! Good one Ed !
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
Originally Posted by APDDSN0864
Originally Posted by chlinstructor
He could have been one of the lost Indians from the WheretheFuchawie Tribe. 😜

Actually, he was the (former) guide/navigator of said tribe, hence the dent in his head... laugh

Ed

LOL ! Good one Ed !
Love that old joke !
Jimmy Hoffa???????
Originally Posted by Valsdad
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The skull was most certainly from an ancestor of one of the Native American tribes in the area today, Blue said. It’s now expected to be returned to tribes in Minnesota, according to Hable.

Having just a tiny bit of knowledge of certain things, I wonder what evidence she has to make that conclusion. If it was only a few thousand years after "ice out", how does she know which language group was in the area, passing through on their way to another area, or with that healed over knot in his skull maybe he was a captured slave from another group and not an ancestor at all?

They matched up the dent in the skull with the pull handles on the nearest casino slot machines. Perfect match.

Conclusion:

"Heap drunk Chippewa"
Local Indians will claim ancestral trauma and milk it for all it’s worth.
Very interesting though, and highly unlikely related to today’s tribes in the region. They didn’t arrive until the 1500-1600’s I think, migrating from the east.
Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
More importantly what is his gender pronoun?
Probably identified as -







a Mastodon!!!!
smile
Incredible that science can determine the gender of an 8,000 year old skull and yet here we are in 2022 arguing over if a man can/can't get pregnant or have an abortion!
Very prominent eyebrow ridges on that skull. Meaning what, I don't know. We visited the pre-historic dig in Mitchell SD and found it very interesting. Those people were unrelated to the Lakota in any way. GD
Originally Posted by ihookem
I don't believe for a minute that it was 8,000 yrs. old. I dont see how any bone can not rot away . I have deer skulls in the back yard that are 10 yrs old and showing a lot of age. I know some mud preserves, but not for 8,000 yrs .

It takes the right conditions. Most disintegrate, only a very few are preserved or fossilized.
What makes them think that remnant is native to the area, and not tossed there recently from elsewhere. It was found in a river, IIRC, not excavated from a dig. The evidence trail is lacking.
Perhaps someone can help me out here, Naia was a maybe 100lb undernourished teenage mother who fell into a sinkhole in the Yucatán maybe 13,000 years ago.

https://hoyonegro.ucsd.edu/naia.php

The relevance here is that I have read somewhere that early populations from South/Central America had an unusual degree of sexual dimorphism wherein the guys averaged considerably larger, and that more than a few males exhibited healed skull fractures, indicating they hit each other a lot.

If I’m recalling all that correctly, this Minnesota skull cap’s healed fracture would fit.

Can’t find a source of where I read it tho.
You've never heard of New York, Massachusetts, or California?
Originally Posted by 250Sav_age
I honestly can't think of a more worthless state than Minnesota.

Lol I agree but it used to be a pretty decent state, especially for fishing and occasionally banging a blondie of Scandinavian heritage here and there back when blondes were my thing for awhile in the 80s.

The Twin Cities have since been taken over by the Somalis ... thanks to Obango.
Q=Why he had dent in head?

A= Granite Falls
He was 100% certainly a Native American; he was almost certainly a tribe member; and he died right there. All three being true, there's no reason why the current tribe there shouldn't claim him as an ancestor.

There were people in the Americas at least 15,000 years ago, and ever since.
Indians are never happy, seem like bitches over the least thing.

Their ancestors would cut their throats for being whiny woke pussies.

Those first people were tough as steel. They wouldnt be having hissy fits about football mascots and pipelines
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
He was 100% certainly a Native American; he was almost certainly a tribe member; and he died right there. All three being true, there's no reason why the current tribe there shouldn't claim him as an ancestor.

There were people in the Americas at least 15,000 years ago, and ever since.
Wasnt any “tribes” back then.

What a maroon. You and your Lee Marvin indian attack the wagon train thought process

Very small family groups, always migrating, hunter-gatherers.


You people and your fuggin lone ranger/tonto terpee and winchester fantasies
We will never know any truths if the evidence isn't examined by an independent source, even if that happened it may not be the truth. It is telling when the Indians want it, don't want any examination, and it is suddenly sacred, even though it was likely them who caved in the guys head, which makes it sacred.

Its bullshyte, people have been coming to this Continent for thousands of years.
Those are some really heavy brown ridges on that skull cap.
Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
Perhaps someone can help me out here, Naia was a maybe 100lb undernourished teenage mother who fell into a sinkhole in the Yucatán maybe 13,000 years ago.

https://hoyonegro.ucsd.edu/naia.php

The relevance here is that I have read somewhere that early populations from South/Central America had an unusual degree of sexual dimorphism wherein the guys averaged considerably larger, and that more than a few males exhibited healed skull fractures, indicating they hit each other a lot.

If I’m recalling all that correctly, this Minnesota skull cap’s healed fracture would fit.

Can’t find a source of where I read it tho.

That is fascinating. A complete skeleton found in an underwater cave in the Yucatan, Mexico. She lived 12,000 years ago! That is the very end of the ice age.
The Indians weren't so sacred to other Indians while alive. Comanches on a raid to New Mexico would capture a few Apaches. They headed back to the Comanche camp in north Texas. The Apache woman would be gang raped repeatedly. If she couldn't keep up, they would stake her out in the desert on her back, and cut her eyelids out, and leave her there to die in a few days, staring at the relentless sun.

If the Apache man made it back to the Comanche camp alive, the squaws would stake him out, and pile burning coals on his hand, until the hand was burned off of the arm. Took several hours. Then the squaws switched over to burn off the other hand. After a while, they would start piling coals on the feet. Took several days to roast an Apache.

If the Apache cried out while being burned, he was laughed at, and considered a sissy.
I see the Poor dude was scalped.
Originally Posted by greydog
Very prominent eyebrow ridges on that skull. Meaning what, I don't know. We visited the pre-historic dig in Mitchell SD and found it very interesting. Those people were unrelated to the Lakota in any way. GD

Very prominent. Frontal cranium appears sloped with not a whole lot of skull above the eyes. If found in a river it would be doubtful death occurred where the skull was found. Water flow, flood level water flow, kept as a souvenir then discarded, on & on. Officials who surrendered the skull are idiots. Lots of data to be gathered there telling us a lot about human migrations.
Be funny if it turned out to be a prehistoric turtle shell. McConnell could claim it as a relative.
Originally Posted by shootem
Be funny if it turned out to be a prehistoric turtle shell. McConnell could claim it as a relative.
Dat's funny as sh it right there!
Someone lost their soup bowl.
How do they know it was a man? Are they biologists? Lol

Maybe he identified as a female African and we will have to rewrite all the books...
Originally Posted by UncleAlps
How do they know it's a he?

He had cotton balls stuffed in his ear holes.

So they not onjy know he was male, but also that he was married.
There’s these things called fossils . . .
Originally Posted by RockyRaab
He was 100% certainly a Native American; he was almost certainly a tribe member; and he died right there. All three being true, there's no reason why the current tribe there shouldn't claim him as an ancestor.

There were people in the Americas at least 15,000 years ago, and ever since.

Heavy brow ridges and no forehead to speak of, no mention of attempts at DNA analysis.

Maybe it was Bigfoot.
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Those are some really heavy brown ridges on that skull cap.


Are you saying it could be Neanderthal?
The first thing I noticed was those brow ridges…..🦍
Originally Posted by AcesNeights
A human skull that's about 8,000 years old was found in the Minnesota River south of Sacred Heart.

The Renville County Sheriff's Office on Wednesday said two kayakers came across the bone in September 2021. The Midwest Medical Examiner's Office determined the bone was human, and the FBI's forensic anthropologist concluded the bone belonged to a young adult man.

The skull has a depressed area, which is consistent with blunt force trauma, the sheriff's office said.

Through Carbon-14 analysis, preliminary information indicates the man would have been alive between 5,500-6,000 BCE, so nearly 8,000 years ago.

Continued here….

https://www.q13fox.com/news/human-s...QDcATxpxyuuFpc9pSP2-ZYPdRfk5gLKDmuJzHXaY

That's Kennewick Man's cousin, I'd recognize his description anywhere.....
Whashername, the mayor of, Chicago? outlived him, it seems.
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