Home
Posted By: 2ndwind 10.00 a gallon - 06/04/22
https://goldenstatetimes.com/gas-pr...ergency-level-as-ca-reaches-10-a-gallon/

What is going to happen? How soon? I've never been in CA but it looks like lots of commuting is happening. This seems like a flash point.
Posted By: stevelyn Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/04/22
Fahq'em. They vote for this schitt, they can die by it.
Posted By: gonehuntin Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/04/22
PedoBiden and that cabal of stupid women pulling his strings are deliberately seeing how much pain they can inflict upon The People. They'll get a rude surprise when D.C. becomes a shooting gallery.....
Posted By: g5m Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/04/22
Some have projected it as high as $15/ gallon for diesel. Bye-bye food supply!
Posted By: 2ndwind Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/04/22
Maybe a picture of that sign will be useful in this Falls elections.... Caption "Sick of woke yet?"
Posted By: Certifiable Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/04/22
Originally Posted by stevelyn
Fahq'em. They vote for this schitt, they can die by it.
How much is gas where you live?
Did you vote for that?
Posted By: 2ndwind Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/04/22
Certifiable, you make a good point. In NC the Dem Gov just called for an "assault weapon ban". I'm pretty sure his reelection was rigged so please don't paint with a broad brush "People in NC deserve that" view either.

How do you expect the public to handle this? Lots of CA people have to commute right?
Posted By: 700LH Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/04/22
You can buy about 2 gallons of milk for the price of 1 gallon of gas.

Somting rong
Posted By: Ptarmigan Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/04/22
Originally Posted by Certifiable
Originally Posted by stevelyn
Fahq'em. They vote for this schitt, they can die by it.
How much is gas where you live?
Did you vote for that?

You ever look on a map and see where the Aleutians are? Maybe start there.
Posted By: RUM7 Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/04/22
Originally Posted by 2ndwind
Certifiable, you make a good point. In NC the Dem Gov just called for an "assault weapon ban". I'm pretty sure his reelection was rigged so please don't paint with a broad brush "People in NC deserve that" view either.

How do you expect the public to handle this? Lots of CA people have to commute right?
No one will be prepared. It's not the sheep's nature to be prepared for any emergency.
It hurts but myself and every farmer I know is filling the tanks. It's going to be rough keeping all the tractors running if 10-15 becomes a reality.
Posted By: Certifiable Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/04/22
Originally Posted by Ptarmigan
Originally Posted by Certifiable
Originally Posted by stevelyn
Fahq'em. They vote for this schitt, they can die by it.
How much is gas where you live?
Did you vote for that?

You ever look on a map and see where the Aleutians are? Maybe start there.

I pulled out an atlas and found them.. have fuel prices in the Aleutians stayed mostly there same for the past 2 years?

Did any of us here vote for this gas clusterfukk?
Posted By: 2ndwind Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/04/22
My wife's sister married into a large scale farming operation here in NC.... None of them are happy with current events.

The price of food is going to be shocking.
Posted By: 2ndwind Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/04/22
It's a play straight out of the Marxist plan to bring down a society by turning different factions against each other. Don't fall into that trap.

I'm hoping the Campfire remains a place where good on the ground information and ideas can be exchanged. IMO it's shaping up to be a long hot Summer. I sure don't count on the MSM to provide useful information.
Posted By: DouginAlaska Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/04/22
Originally Posted by Ptarmigan
Originally Posted by Certifiable
Originally Posted by stevelyn
Fahq'em. They vote for this schitt, they can die by it.
How much is gas where you live?
Did you vote for that?

You ever look on a map and see where the Aleutians are? Maybe start there.

Yes, I worked on Amchitka for several years but never had to pay for gas while there.
Posted By: jaguartx Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/04/22
Originally Posted by 2ndwind
It's a play straight out of the Marxist plan to bring down a society by turning different factions against each other. Don't fall into that trap.
I think its time we turned on the Dimocraps.

Hey, they say there was no vote fraud. That means they elected the POS.
Posted By: viking Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/04/22
Eventually it will spread across most of the country. That state is a cancer.
Posted By: DigitalDan Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/04/22
Well, they deserve it.

BTW, it’s .12/gal in Venezuela.
Posted By: renegade50 Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/04/22
And we ain't even been hit by production and refinery shutdowns by hurricaine season along the gulf coast yet.

You can bet your azz Liberal Socialist Democrats and big oil are looking forward to that.
Benjamin's to be made.
Agenda to be exploited...

And of course we will hear the global warming agenda from it as the cause.

Anyone that thinks they don't think this way is aloof and naive.


Honk for Joey....
Honk for his puppet masters controlling his strings....
Posted By: kaywoodie Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/04/22
And we are puttin’ up with all this schidt!!!!

Ol Mike! Get me another cup of coffee and a sweet roll!!! 😉

Where’s ol’ Crossfire to give us one of his "Jesus wept"!!!!!!

Vote, my ass!!!
Posted By: steve4102 Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/04/22
Everyone that voted for Biden voted for this.

Biden made it no secret during the campaign that he was going to shut down the pipelines and domestic oil drilling and push through the Green New Deal.

And yes, millions of tree hugging Democrats are loving this schit.

Anyone here slip on over the the DU and see what the enemy is saying about this?
Posted By: Riverc Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/04/22
Gas keeps going up like the say we may have to start doing like the Amish use a horse and buggy.
Posted By: kaywoodie Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/04/22
Daughter, who occasionally works at quarter horse foaling center, mentioned day before yesterday that horses are hot item now. Said over in her neck of woods a gentleman with cancer had his 12 stolen while he was in hospital.
Posted By: Dillonbuck Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/04/22
[quote=steve4102]Everyone that voted for Biden voted for this.



Be careful, you might be disparaging dead family members!😉
Posted By: szihn Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/04/22
well now, you Kaliforians..................Doesn't look as if communism and Satanism is all that good a deal to me. Kinda- expensive isn't it?

But the beta-males of Kalifornia can suck it up and pay and pay and p[ay. They can ask their drag-queen teachers what to do as they support their government and wring their hands and whine harder. Men would probably do something about it, but men are not common in Commyfornia. If they were, this all would have been stopped many many many many years ago.


So.........live with it! ---------and allow it to get worse.
Go ahead and comply yourselves into freedom. It's worked so well for you this far. Right? It's what betas do. You'll have a lot of experience so it will be easy for you. Hey....maybe if you mask-up it will help.


Now get mad at this message. , not because I insulted you. I DID NOT! I posted a fact and the ones responsible for giving up the freedoms of a once great state (going back to around the early 1950s) will hate it not because it's an insult but BECAUSE it's true.

As Plato said. Those that do not get involved in government are ALWYS punished by being ruled by their inferiors.
Posted By: kingston Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/04/22
https://apnews.com/article/climate-...-states-a629da4d72fa94d75f6668acd5a04bf3

Study finds cleaner air leads to more Atlantic hurricanes
By SETH BORENSTEIN
May 11, 2022

Cleaner air in United States and Europe is brewing more Atlantic hurricanes, a new U.S. government study found.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration study links changes in regionalized air pollution across the globe to storm activity going both up and down. A 50% decrease in pollution particles and droplets in Europe and the U.S. is linked to a 33% increase in Atlantic storm formation in the past couple decades, while the opposite is happening in the Pacific with more pollution and fewer typhoons, according to the study published in Wednesday’s Science Advances.

NOAA hurricane scientist Hiroyuki Murakami ran numerous climate computer simulations to explain change in storm activity in different parts of the globe that can’t be explained by natural climate cycles and found a link to aerosol pollution from industry and cars — sulfur particles and droplets in the air that make it hard to breathe and see.

Scientists had long known that aerosol pollution cools the air, at times reducing the larger effects of greenhouse gases from the burning of fossil fuel and earlier studies mentioned it as a possibility in increase in Atlantic storms, but Murakami found it a factor around the world and a more direct link.

Hurricanes need warm water — which is warmed by the air — for fuel and are harmed by wind shear, which changes in upper level winds that can decapitate storm tops. Cleaner air in the Atlantic and dirtier air in the Pacific, from pollution in China and India, mess with both of those, Murakami said.

In the Atlantic, aerosol pollution peaked around 1980 and has been dropping steadily since. That means the cooling that masked some of the greenhouse gas warming is going away, so sea surface temperatures are increasing even more, Murakami said. On top of that the lack of cooling aerosols has helped push the jet stream — the river of air that moves weather from west to east on a roller-coaster like path — further north, reducing the shear that had been dampening hurricane formation.

“That’s why the Atlantic has gone pretty much crazy since the mid-90s and why it was so quiet in the 70s and 80s,” said climate and hurricane scientist Jim Kossin of the risk firm The Climate Service. He wasn’t part of the study but said it makes sense. The aerosol pollution “gave a lot of people in the 70s and 80s a break, but we’re all paying for it now.”

There are other factors in tropical cyclone activity with La Nina and El Nino — natural fluctuations in equatorial Pacific temperatures that alter climate worldwide — being huge. Human-caused climate change from greenhouse gases, that will grow as aerosol pollution reductions level out, is another, and there other natural long-term climatic oscillations, Murakami said.

Climate change from greenhouse gases is expected to reduce the overall number of storms slightly, but increase the number and strength of the most intense hurricanes, make them wetter and increase storm surge flooding, Murakami, Kossin and other scientists said.

While aerosol cooling is maybe half to one-third smaller than the warming from greenhouse gases, it is about twice as effective in reducing tropical cyclone intensity compared to warming increasing it, said Columbia University climate scientist Adam Sobel, who wasn’t part of the study. As aerosol pollution stays at low levels in the Atlantic and greenhouse gas emissions grow, climate change’s impact on storms will increase in the future and become more prominent, Murakami said.

In the Pacific, aerosol pollution from Asian nations has gone up 50% from 1980 to 2010 and is starting to drop now. Tropical cyclone formation from 2001 to 2020 is 14% lower than 1980 to 2000, Murakami said.

Murakami also found a correlation that was a bit different heading south. A drop in European and American aerosol pollution changed global air patterns in a way that it meant a decrease in southern hemisphere storms around Australia.

But as much as more hurricanes in the Atlantic can be a problem, the death from extra storms don’t compare to the seven million people a year globally who die from air pollution, said University of Washington public health professor Kristie Ebi, who studies health, climate and extreme weather.

“Air pollution is a major killer, so reducing emissions is critical no matter what happens with the number of cyclones,” said Ebi, who wasn’t part of the study.
Posted By: kingston Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/04/22
https://ens-newswire.com/extreme-storms-may-protect-beaches-against-sea-level-rise/

Extreme Storms May Protect Beaches Against Sea-level Rise
May 17, 2022

SYDNEY, New South Wales, Australia, May 17, 2022 (ENS) – Climate change is making storms more intense and destructive, but the impact of extreme storms is not wholly negative, an international team of researchers has learned. Sand movements stirred up by extreme weather events could help protect beaches from the impact of sea-level rise by bringing in new sand from deeper waters or from nearby beaches.

Published in the journal “Nature Communications Earth & Environment,” the research study, “A single extreme storm sequence can offset decades of shoreline retreat projected to result from sea-level rise,” was led by the University of New South Wales in collaboration with researchers from the University of Plymouth in the UK, and Autonomous University of Baja California.

The scientists examined three coastlines across Australia, the United Kingdom and Mexico. Each coastline had been subjected to a sequence of extreme storms or extended storm clusters, followed by a milder period of beach recovery.

Australia: Narrabeen Beach

Meanwhile in Australia, researchers studied Narrabeen Beach in Sydney in the wake of a 2016 storm so strong that it tore a swimming pool away from a property overlooking the coast.

Using high-resolution measurements of the beach and seabed, they were able to show that sediment gains at Narrabeen were sufficient to theoretically offset decades of projected shoreline retreat.

Narrabeen is as well known for its top status in Australian surfing culture as it is for rising sea levels due to climate change.

No beach in Australia has been studied more by scientists and fought over by homeowners, beach users and politicians than Narrabeen.

At 2.6km, Narrabeen is Sydney’s second-longest stretch of sand and surf, and it is classified as the beach at greatest risk beach from erosion in New South Wales and the third most at-risk in Australia.

In the published study, the researchers explain that there are so few measurements of the seabeds immediately off of coastlines that it is hard to tell how much sand could potentially be mobilized in the future.

Still, they believe that while these findings are from only a limited number of extreme storm sequences, they potentially change how people can understand the long-term future of coastlines in a warming world.

Dr. Mitchell Harley, senior lecturer from University of New South Wales’ Water Research Laboratory and the study’s lead author, said, “We know that extreme storms cause major coastal erosion and damage to beachfront properties. For the first time we looked not just above water, where the impacts of extreme storms are easy to see, but also deep down below it as well.”

“What we found was that hundreds of thousands of cubic metres of sand were entering these beach systems during these events. That’s similar to the scale of what engineers use to nourish a beach artificially,” he said.

“This could potentially be enough to offset some of the impacts of sea-level rises caused by climate change, such as retreating coastlines, and by several decades in the long-term,” Harley said. “It’s a new way of looking at extreme storms.”

England: Perranporth Beach

In the UK, researchers have studied Perranporth beach in Cornwall, England since 2006, using a combination of monthly beach topographic surveys and quasi-annual bathymetric surveys.

Here, the impact of the extreme 2013/14 and 2015/16 winters resulted in what the researchers called “very significant losses of sand” from the intertidal beach and dune system. However, when looking at the total sand budget, including the underwater part of the beach, they observed that by 2018 the beach had gained 420,000 cubic meters of sand.

Professor Gerd Masselink, who leads the Coastal Processes Research Group at the University of Plymouth, said, “Looking at the extra sand gained by the beach at Perranporth, we are not quite sure whether this has come from offshore or from around the corner, or even both. However, we do now understand that extreme waves can potentially contribute positively to the overall sand budget, despite causing upper beach and dune erosion.”

“We have previously shown that coral reef islands could naturally adapt to survive the impact of rising sea levels,” Masselink said, “and this study shows the changes to our own coastlines could mean the impact of extreme storms are not wholly negative.”

Mexico: La Misión Beach

At La Misión Beach on the Pacific coast of northwest Mexico, a sequence of extratropical storms concentrated over the 2018-2019 boreal winter caused the most severe winter erosion (average = 208 m3/m) since measurements at the site began.

A 2.2-kilometer stretch of this sandy coast has been scientifically monitored monthly since 2015.

Amaia Ruiz de Alegría-Arzaburu, an oceanographer with the Autonomous University of Baja California’s Institute of Oceanological Research, in nearby Ensenada, Mexico, leads the research group at La Mision Beach.

With deep roots in this research group, Dr. Alegria-Arzburu completed her doctorate in oceanography at the University of Plymouth in 2010.

Her research focuses on determining the physical processes associated with the morphodynamics of beaches, based on measurements of hydrodynamics and sediment transport and the application of numerical tools. Her main interest is to determine the resilience of beaches at the scale of storm events, seasons and inter-annual variations.

Predicting Future Shoreline Patterns

Hurricanes have become stronger worldwide since 1980, and the proportion of major hurricanes, Category 3 or above, in the Atlantic Ocean has doubled since 1980 an analysis of satellite data shows.

“The trend is there and it is real,” said James Kossin, a researcher with the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, NOAA, and lead author of the hurricane study, published in May 2020 in the journal “Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.” The researchers suggest that the most damaging U.S. hurricanes are three times more frequent than 100 years ago.

For instance, the extremely active 2020 Atlantic hurricane season had a record-breaking 30 named tropical storms, including 13 hurricanes and six major hurricanes. There were 12 landfalling storms in the continental United States.

This is the most storms on record, surpassing the 28 from 2005, and the second-highest number of hurricanes on record, and 2020 marked the fifth consecutive year with an above-normal Atlantic hurricane season, according to NOAA.

Overall, storm surge levels in Europe are projected to increase on average by around 15 percent by 2100 under a high-emissions scenario. European researchers found that climate change will result in higher seas not only driven by sea level rise, but also by increased storminess. Click here to see this research.

But the three-nation study of beaches in Australia, England, and Mexico found that beaches there could recover from sea level rise with the sand replenishment stirred up by extreme storms.

But can coastal recoveries be predicted with accuracy?

The study’s authors write, “Our results based on unique high-resolution field measurements over three extreme storm-recovery sequences from three different continents highlight the present major challenges of predicting long-term coastal evolution over planning horizons of decades to centuries.”

“Whereas long-term modeling approaches typically assume [that] short-term sediment losses on the subaerial beach and dune caused by extreme storm sequences are balanced by sediment gains in the subaqueous zone – resulting in zero net change in the sediment budget, our results indicate large net positive sediment gains integrated over the entire upper shoreface.”

Click here to read the full study – Harley et al: Single extreme storm sequence can offset decades of shoreline retreat projected to result from sea-level rise, in the journal “Nature Communications Earth & Environment.”
Posted By: g5m Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/05/22
And yet the people who voted for this administration still seem to be blind to its actions.
Posted By: wbyfan1 Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/05/22
Just fueled the company jet at Boston Logan airport. $14.00 per galllon. 800 gallons was $11,200!! Yowzza! Thankfully that’s all we needed to get home. Toping her off with all she’d hold would’ve bankrupted the company! Ha. Not really.
Posted By: ribka Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/05/22
ha ha




Originally Posted by kingston
https://apnews.com/article/climate-...-states-a629da4d72fa94d75f6668acd5a04bf3

Study finds cleaner air leads to more Atlantic hurricanes
By SETH BORENSTEIN
May 11, 2022

Cleaner air in United States and Europe is brewing more Atlantic hurricanes, a new U.S. government study found.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration study links changes in regionalized air pollution across the globe to storm activity going both up and down. A 50% decrease in pollution particles and droplets in Europe and the U.S. is linked to a 33% increase in Atlantic storm formation in the past couple decades, while the opposite is happening in the Pacific with more pollution and fewer typhoons, according to the study published in Wednesday’s Science Advances.

NOAA hurricane scientist Hiroyuki Murakami ran numerous climate computer simulations to explain change in storm activity in different parts of the globe that can’t be explained by natural climate cycles and found a link to aerosol pollution from industry and cars — sulfur particles and droplets in the air that make it hard to breathe and see.

Scientists had long known that aerosol pollution cools the air, at times reducing the larger effects of greenhouse gases from the burning of fossil fuel and earlier studies mentioned it as a possibility in increase in Atlantic storms, but Murakami found it a factor around the world and a more direct link.

Hurricanes need warm water — which is warmed by the air — for fuel and are harmed by wind shear, which changes in upper level winds that can decapitate storm tops. Cleaner air in the Atlantic and dirtier air in the Pacific, from pollution in China and India, mess with both of those, Murakami said.

In the Atlantic, aerosol pollution peaked around 1980 and has been dropping steadily since. That means the cooling that masked some of the greenhouse gas warming is going away, so sea surface temperatures are increasing even more, Murakami said. On top of that the lack of cooling aerosols has helped push the jet stream — the river of air that moves weather from west to east on a roller-coaster like path — further north, reducing the shear that had been dampening hurricane formation.

“That’s why the Atlantic has gone pretty much crazy since the mid-90s and why it was so quiet in the 70s and 80s,” said climate and hurricane scientist Jim Kossin of the risk firm The Climate Service. He wasn’t part of the study but said it makes sense. The aerosol pollution “gave a lot of people in the 70s and 80s a break, but we’re all paying for it now.”

There are other factors in tropical cyclone activity with La Nina and El Nino — natural fluctuations in equatorial Pacific temperatures that alter climate worldwide — being huge. Human-caused climate change from greenhouse gases, that will grow as aerosol pollution reductions level out, is another, and there other natural long-term climatic oscillations, Murakami said.

Climate change from greenhouse gases is expected to reduce the overall number of storms slightly, but increase the number and strength of the most intense hurricanes, make them wetter and increase storm surge flooding, Murakami, Kossin and other scientists said.

While aerosol cooling is maybe half to one-third smaller than the warming from greenhouse gases, it is about twice as effective in reducing tropical cyclone intensity compared to warming increasing it, said Columbia University climate scientist Adam Sobel, who wasn’t part of the study. As aerosol pollution stays at low levels in the Atlantic and greenhouse gas emissions grow, climate change’s impact on storms will increase in the future and become more prominent, Murakami said.

In the Pacific, aerosol pollution from Asian nations has gone up 50% from 1980 to 2010 and is starting to drop now. Tropical cyclone formation from 2001 to 2020 is 14% lower than 1980 to 2000, Murakami said.

Murakami also found a correlation that was a bit different heading south. A drop in European and American aerosol pollution changed global air patterns in a way that it meant a decrease in southern hemisphere storms around Australia.

But as much as more hurricanes in the Atlantic can be a problem, the death from extra storms don’t compare to the seven million people a year globally who die from air pollution, said University of Washington public health professor Kristie Ebi, who studies health, climate and extreme weather.

“Air pollution is a major killer, so reducing emissions is critical no matter what happens with the number of cyclones,” said Ebi, who wasn’t part of the study.
Posted By: Rawhide67 Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/05/22
I imagine this [bleep] economy, inflation, and gas prices would spell doom for either political party if they happened to be in power. We will see how smart the American voter is come November.
Great quote from Winston Churchill, “the best argument against democracy is the average voter.”
Posted By: slumlord Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/05/22
Originally Posted by g5m
Some have projected it as high as $15/ gallon for diesel. Bye-bye food supply!

I still hope I can get some stadium mustard and ball park franks. So’s I can watch MLB and Lee Marvin. Some
Posted By: SamOlson Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/05/22
You know what's weird?


The .gov farm game is paying guys to grow mustard. If you have a crop failure(drought, etc) the mustard pays out better than any other crop. I don't play the farm game, just going off of what the big guys that go to crop insurance meetings are telling me.



Not sure when or how they set up the 2022 crop program but why in the hell do they want farmers to grow mustard?......hmmmmmm
Posted By: 2ndwind Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/05/22
You mean like Chinese hot mustard ingredient?
Posted By: SamOlson Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/05/22
That's what I asked, mustard, mustard?


Yep.
Posted By: akrange Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/05/22
Originally Posted by g5m
And yet the people who voted for this administration still seem to be blind to its actions.

Never Underestimate the Depth to Which these Virtue Signaler’s will Go..
We’re already passed Ludicrous..
At some point the Civil Restraint will Break.
I Pitty those who lead US to this Point..
The Problem will be Turning the Rage Off..

Roll them or They Roll You..
Posted By: BigDave39355 Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/05/22
Stopped at the co-op today to get some non-ethanol gas for my SxS.

Not sure of price / gal, bought some there stuff also.

He said it’ll be $6.50 by August.

🤦🏼‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️
Posted By: SamOlson Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/05/22
I was just pricing out random internet 1000 gallon single wall diesel tanks.

$3k.


I'm sure they'll be $4500 here locally from the co-op....

But if diesel were to go up a dollar or two, or god forbid a shortage, a tank would be good.



We're so close to town that bulk fuel storage has never been an issue. But I want a tank.
Posted By: MontanaMan Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/05/22
Originally Posted by Rawhide67
I imagine this [bleep] economy, inflation, and gas prices would spell doom for either political party if they happened to be in power. We will see how smart the American voter is come November.
Great quote from Winston Churchill, “the best argument against democracy is the average voter.”

So you think voting still matters, eh? So we'll vote our way out of this in November?

What happens in CA soon spreads to the rest of the country...........just takes a bit longer.

The economy simply cannot withstand these continued fuel prices & the additional more shortages that are still coming as a result of the fuel issues & fallout from the plandemic shutdowns..............pretty soon, I think, will be a for real tipping point.

I don't know what's going to happen as far too much if the country just continues to accept the current situation as the new normal but there is a real honest to goodness crisis coming up.................for most everyone everywhere.

People should be mad as hell..................but so far, they just are not; if they ever get mad, it just may be too late the keep the ship off the reef at that point.

And besides, the R's have absolutely no leadership or plan either, & are simply going along the the Demons, with only token resistance here & there from time to time.

MM
Posted By: akrange Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/05/22
“ You ain’t seen Nothing Yet “
When You do I’ll be on Hannity to tell You about It.
Then after the Show we’ll go to Dinner and Laugh Our Asses Off …
Slugg Down some Pink Champagne and Play
Corn Hole..
Posted By: RUM7 Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/05/22
Originally Posted by SamOlson
I was just pricing out random internet 1000 gallon single wall diesel tanks.

$3k.


I'm sure they'll be $4500 here locally from the co-op....

But if diesel were to go up a dollar or two, or god forbid a shortage, a tank would be good.



We're so close to town that bulk fuel storage has never been an issue. But I want a tank.

We have tanks that we play the fuel pricing game with.
Right now, it's more like "fill them up while you know you can barely afford to" if prices keep escalating, harvest is going to be brutal. It takes a lot of diesel to shake, sweep, pickup and truck all our nuts. Tanks pay for themselves if you are smart about when you purchase fuel.
Posted By: 79S Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/05/22
Originally Posted by SamOlson
I was just pricing out random internet 1000 gallon single wall diesel tanks.

$3k.


I'm sure they'll be $4500 here locally from the co-op....

But if diesel were to go up a dollar or two, or god forbid a shortage, a tank would be good.



We're so close to town that bulk fuel storage has never been an issue. But I want a tank.
Posted By: Marshhawk Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/05/22
[bleep] THE DIRTY ROTTEN FUSKING DEMOCRATS AND EVERY STUPID MOTHER [bleep] THAT VOTED FOR THEM!!!
Posted By: Idaho_Shooter Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/05/22
It was breadlines and a starving population which brought about the dissolution of the USSR.

Same might be said of the French Revolution, though I am no expert on French History.

While hunger has long been used as a weapon, it seldom results in unification of "The People" behind the standing gov't which brought it about.

As Yamamoto declared, "I am afraid we have only just awakened a sleeping giant." So shall the Socialists learn when American parents start hearing their children cry from hunger.

But hey, there's a bright side. Real starvation in America will cure our excess immigration problem. People will be moving South by the multitudes.
Posted By: Hastings Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/05/22
Not a big operator. Going to buy hay instead of growing it so I don't have to buy fertilizer. The hay sellers will deplete their soil this year and still sell at a loss. Going to bush hog only as much as I have to to keep down tree sprouts and keep enough grass tender and nutrients up. If cow poop starts piling up the grass is too coarse and has to be cut back. Fertilizer cost is going to cut production this year world wide unless some governments take over and make the taxpayers foot the bill.

There are food shortages and huge price increases ahead. Gas and beef will be stolen in amounts unheard of until now.
Posted By: 2ndwind Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/05/22
There are food shortages and huge price increases ahead. Gas and beef will be stolen in amounts unheard of until now.[/quote]


I have had to spend more time in town than usual the past few days running errands. Glock 23 vs my Kahr PM 9. Head on a swivel. I put some extra effort into being polite and asked some folks how they were doing.... They are stressed. I paid 38.00 for a plastic 5 gallon gas can... it was the last one in stock.

We have a good supply of beans and rice. 4 different kinds of hot sauce at the moment.... I'd like to expand that selection to keep things interesting.

I'm pretty sure this isn't a drill.
Posted By: ltppowell Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/05/22
I saw a guy selling baby formula out of the bed of a pickup in Mena, Arkansas today.
Posted By: Trystan Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/05/22
I'm rather non liberal minded however most of my clients tend to be Biden supporters and even voted for him! I'm a farrier and I have to say it was somewhat satisfying when I raised there price $25 more per horse! This is costing them!!! Not ME!!! I informed them that my price will be going up accordingly to the price of fuel, supplies and food!

I also told them that build back better should be kicking in any day now so they shouldn't worry! For some reason they looked worried
Posted By: Redneck Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/05/22
Originally Posted by Marshhawk
[bleep] THE DIRTY ROTTEN FUSKING DEMOCRATS AND EVERY STUPID MOTHER [bleep] THAT VOTED FOR THEM!!!
PREACH IT brother!!!!!
Posted By: Windfall Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/05/22
I've got to wonder why nobody is going after the big oil companies for price gouging and price fixing? Shell Oil just posted a 9.1 billion dollar profit for the first quarter of 2022 which was their highest profit ever! That was three times their typical quarterly profit margin in 2021. Okay some simple math. A barrel of crude oil was $120. on 6/21/22 and gas in these parts is $4.60 a gallon. Back a year or two back oil was hovering around $90.00 a barrel and gasoline was what $2.00 a gallon? A $30.00 increase of a barrel of oil is roughly 1/3 more. A 1/3 increase in oil should equal a $2.60 price of gasoline, not $4.60. I know that California has different formulated gasoline than the rest of the country, but you can't tell me that it costs an oil refinery double.
Posted By: akrange Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/05/22
Geez Dude your Dense..
You do know if your Government steps in the way of Production it going to cause scarcity which drives up Price ..
Bolshevik Twit ..
Posted By: 79S Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/05/22
Originally Posted by Windfall
I've got to wonder why nobody is going after the big oil companies for price gouging and price fixing? Shell Oil just posted a 9.1 billion dollar profit for the first quarter of 2022 which was their highest profit ever! That was three times their typical quarterly profit margin in 2021. Okay some simple math. A barrel of crude oil was $120. on 6/21/22 and gas in these parts is $4.60 a gallon. Back a year or two back oil was hovering around $90.00 a barrel and gasoline was what $2.00 a gallon? A $30.00 increase of a barrel of oil is roughly 1/3 more. A 1/3 increase in oil should equal a $2.60 price of gasoline, not $4.60. I know that California has different formulated gasoline than the rest of the country, but you can't tell me that it costs an oil refinery double.

Oh boy falling for the good democrat narrative, its the oil companies gouging us. You dumb twat 2 yrs ago ie 2020 west Texas crude was selling for -$38 a barrel that's a negative you dumb ass. Oil was nowhere near $90 bucks two yrs ago, or a year ago. Ph uck you are what's wrong with this country.
Posted By: 79S Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/05/22
Also close of December 2021 oil closed out at $78 a barrel. Then you had OPEC cutting oil production at the beginning of this year. They were pumping so much oil in the United States 2-3yrs ago Saudi Arabia was pumping so much oil trying to undercut U.S production and selling it at $10 dollars a barrel. It's funny how some of the retards on this forum forget all this.
Posted By: kingston Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/06/22
Originally Posted by SamOlson
That's what I asked, mustard, mustard?


Yep.

Brassica juncea?
Posted By: ihookem Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/07/22
Oil companies are making huge profits right now. A lot of people complaining about it but forget that just over 2 yrs. ago I payed 96 cents a gallon and 52 cents was tax. I did a lot of driving that summer. This summer, not so much. I have never been this concerned since Obama won the 1st election. There is something terribly wrong , to the point that it has to be being done on purpose. If the government can create a shortage, they get to pick who gets to eat, and that won't be the conservatives, the gun owners or the christians.
Posted By: GAGoober Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/07/22
WTF has that got to do with the OP Topic??!?!?!!!! You deserve a laurel & hearty handshake
Originally Posted by kingston
https://apnews.com/article/climate-...-states-a629da4d72fa94d75f6668acd5a04bf3

Study finds cleaner air leads to more Atlantic hurricanes
By SETH BORENSTEIN
May 11, 2022

Cleaner air in United States and Europe is brewing more Atlantic hurricanes, a new U.S. government study found.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration study links changes in regionalized air pollution across the globe to storm activity going both up and down. A 50% decrease in pollution particles and droplets in Europe and the U.S. is linked to a 33% increase in Atlantic storm formation in the past couple decades, while the opposite is happening in the Pacific with more pollution and fewer typhoons, according to the study published in Wednesday’s Science Advances.

NOAA hurricane scientist Hiroyuki Murakami ran numerous climate computer simulations to explain change in storm activity in different parts of the globe that can’t be explained by natural climate cycles and found a link to aerosol pollution from industry and cars — sulfur particles and droplets in the air that make it hard to breathe and see.

Scientists had long known that aerosol pollution cools the air, at times reducing the larger effects of greenhouse gases from the burning of fossil fuel and earlier studies mentioned it as a possibility in increase in Atlantic storms, but Murakami found it a factor around the world and a more direct link.

Hurricanes need warm water — which is warmed by the air — for fuel and are harmed by wind shear, which changes in upper level winds that can decapitate storm tops. Cleaner air in the Atlantic and dirtier air in the Pacific, from pollution in China and India, mess with both of those, Murakami said.

In the Atlantic, aerosol pollution peaked around 1980 and has been dropping steadily since. That means the cooling that masked some of the greenhouse gas warming is going away, so sea surface temperatures are increasing even more, Murakami said. On top of that the lack of cooling aerosols has helped push the jet stream — the river of air that moves weather from west to east on a roller-coaster like path — further north, reducing the shear that had been dampening hurricane formation.

“That’s why the Atlantic has gone pretty much crazy since the mid-90s and why it was so quiet in the 70s and 80s,” said climate and hurricane scientist Jim Kossin of the risk firm The Climate Service. He wasn’t part of the study but said it makes sense. The aerosol pollution “gave a lot of people in the 70s and 80s a break, but we’re all paying for it now.”

There are other factors in tropical cyclone activity with La Nina and El Nino — natural fluctuations in equatorial Pacific temperatures that alter climate worldwide — being huge. Human-caused climate change from greenhouse gases, that will grow as aerosol pollution reductions level out, is another, and there other natural long-term climatic oscillations, Murakami said.

Climate change from greenhouse gases is expected to reduce the overall number of storms slightly, but increase the number and strength of the most intense hurricanes, make them wetter and increase storm surge flooding, Murakami, Kossin and other scientists said.

While aerosol cooling is maybe half to one-third smaller than the warming from greenhouse gases, it is about twice as effective in reducing tropical cyclone intensity compared to warming increasing it, said Columbia University climate scientist Adam Sobel, who wasn’t part of the study. As aerosol pollution stays at low levels in the Atlantic and greenhouse gas emissions grow, climate change’s impact on storms will increase in the future and become more prominent, Murakami said.

In the Pacific, aerosol pollution from Asian nations has gone up 50% from 1980 to 2010 and is starting to drop now. Tropical cyclone formation from 2001 to 2020 is 14% lower than 1980 to 2000, Murakami said.

Murakami also found a correlation that was a bit different heading south. A drop in European and American aerosol pollution changed global air patterns in a way that it meant a decrease in southern hemisphere storms around Australia.

But as much as more hurricanes in the Atlantic can be a problem, the death from extra storms don’t compare to the seven million people a year globally who die from air pollution, said University of Washington public health professor Kristie Ebi, who studies health, climate and extreme weather.

“Air pollution is a major killer, so reducing emissions is critical no matter what happens with the number of cyclones,” said Ebi, who wasn’t part of the study.
Originally Posted by kingston
https://ens-newswire.com/extreme-storms-may-protect-beaches-against-sea-level-rise/

Extreme Storms May Protect Beaches Against Sea-level Rise
May 17, 2022

SYDNEY, New South Wales, Australia, May 17, 2022 (ENS) – Climate change is making storms more intense and destructive, but the impact of extreme storms is not wholly negative, an international team of researchers has learned. Sand movements stirred up by extreme weather events could help protect beaches from the impact of sea-level rise by bringing in new sand from deeper waters or from nearby beaches.

Published in the journal “Nature Communications Earth & Environment,” the research study, “A single extreme storm sequence can offset decades of shoreline retreat projected to result from sea-level rise,” was led by the University of New South Wales in collaboration with researchers from the University of Plymouth in the UK, and Autonomous University of Baja California.

The scientists examined three coastlines across Australia, the United Kingdom and Mexico. Each coastline had been subjected to a sequence of extreme storms or extended storm clusters, followed by a milder period of beach recovery.

Australia: Narrabeen Beach

Meanwhile in Australia, researchers studied Narrabeen Beach in Sydney in the wake of a 2016 storm so strong that it tore a swimming pool away from a property overlooking the coast.

Using high-resolution measurements of the beach and seabed, they were able to show that sediment gains at Narrabeen were sufficient to theoretically offset decades of projected shoreline retreat.

Narrabeen is as well known for its top status in Australian surfing culture as it is for rising sea levels due to climate change.

No beach in Australia has been studied more by scientists and fought over by homeowners, beach users and politicians than Narrabeen.

At 2.6km, Narrabeen is Sydney’s second-longest stretch of sand and surf, and it is classified as the beach at greatest risk beach from erosion in New South Wales and the third most at-risk in Australia.

In the published study, the researchers explain that there are so few measurements of the seabeds immediately off of coastlines that it is hard to tell how much sand could potentially be mobilized in the future.

Still, they believe that while these findings are from only a limited number of extreme storm sequences, they potentially change how people can understand the long-term future of coastlines in a warming world.

Dr. Mitchell Harley, senior lecturer from University of New South Wales’ Water Research Laboratory and the study’s lead author, said, “We know that extreme storms cause major coastal erosion and damage to beachfront properties. For the first time we looked not just above water, where the impacts of extreme storms are easy to see, but also deep down below it as well.”

“What we found was that hundreds of thousands of cubic metres of sand were entering these beach systems during these events. That’s similar to the scale of what engineers use to nourish a beach artificially,” he said.

“This could potentially be enough to offset some of the impacts of sea-level rises caused by climate change, such as retreating coastlines, and by several decades in the long-term,” Harley said. “It’s a new way of looking at extreme storms.”

England: Perranporth Beach

In the UK, researchers have studied Perranporth beach in Cornwall, England since 2006, using a combination of monthly beach topographic surveys and quasi-annual bathymetric surveys.

Here, the impact of the extreme 2013/14 and 2015/16 winters resulted in what the researchers called “very significant losses of sand” from the intertidal beach and dune system. However, when looking at the total sand budget, including the underwater part of the beach, they observed that by 2018 the beach had gained 420,000 cubic meters of sand.

Professor Gerd Masselink, who leads the Coastal Processes Research Group at the University of Plymouth, said, “Looking at the extra sand gained by the beach at Perranporth, we are not quite sure whether this has come from offshore or from around the corner, or even both. However, we do now understand that extreme waves can potentially contribute positively to the overall sand budget, despite causing upper beach and dune erosion.”

“We have previously shown that coral reef islands could naturally adapt to survive the impact of rising sea levels,” Masselink said, “and this study shows the changes to our own coastlines could mean the impact of extreme storms are not wholly negative.”

Mexico: La Misión Beach

At La Misión Beach on the Pacific coast of northwest Mexico, a sequence of extratropical storms concentrated over the 2018-2019 boreal winter caused the most severe winter erosion (average = 208 m3/m) since measurements at the site began.

A 2.2-kilometer stretch of this sandy coast has been scientifically monitored monthly since 2015.

Amaia Ruiz de Alegría-Arzaburu, an oceanographer with the Autonomous University of Baja California’s Institute of Oceanological Research, in nearby Ensenada, Mexico, leads the research group at La Mision Beach.

With deep roots in this research group, Dr. Alegria-Arzburu completed her doctorate in oceanography at the University of Plymouth in 2010.

Her research focuses on determining the physical processes associated with the morphodynamics of beaches, based on measurements of hydrodynamics and sediment transport and the application of numerical tools. Her main interest is to determine the resilience of beaches at the scale of storm events, seasons and inter-annual variations.

Predicting Future Shoreline Patterns

Hurricanes have become stronger worldwide since 1980, and the proportion of major hurricanes, Category 3 or above, in the Atlantic Ocean has doubled since 1980 an analysis of satellite data shows.

“The trend is there and it is real,” said James Kossin, a researcher with the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, NOAA, and lead author of the hurricane study, published in May 2020 in the journal “Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.” The researchers suggest that the most damaging U.S. hurricanes are three times more frequent than 100 years ago.

For instance, the extremely active 2020 Atlantic hurricane season had a record-breaking 30 named tropical storms, including 13 hurricanes and six major hurricanes. There were 12 landfalling storms in the continental United States.

This is the most storms on record, surpassing the 28 from 2005, and the second-highest number of hurricanes on record, and 2020 marked the fifth consecutive year with an above-normal Atlantic hurricane season, according to NOAA.

Overall, storm surge levels in Europe are projected to increase on average by around 15 percent by 2100 under a high-emissions scenario. European researchers found that climate change will result in higher seas not only driven by sea level rise, but also by increased storminess. Click here to see this research.

But the three-nation study of beaches in Australia, England, and Mexico found that beaches there could recover from sea level rise with the sand replenishment stirred up by extreme storms.

But can coastal recoveries be predicted with accuracy?

The study’s authors write, “Our results based on unique high-resolution field measurements over three extreme storm-recovery sequences from three different continents highlight the present major challenges of predicting long-term coastal evolution over planning horizons of decades to centuries.”

“Whereas long-term modeling approaches typically assume [that] short-term sediment losses on the subaerial beach and dune caused by extreme storm sequences are balanced by sediment gains in the subaqueous zone – resulting in zero net change in the sediment budget, our results indicate large net positive sediment gains integrated over the entire upper shoreface.”

Click here to read the full study – Harley et al: Single extreme storm sequence can offset decades of shoreline retreat projected to result from sea-level rise, in the journal “Nature Communications Earth & Environment.”
Posted By: slumlord Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/07/22
Epic cut n paste LOL

Happy Shîtpants caliber !!!!!

😃
Posted By: Toddly Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/07/22
I’m loving it. Make it $20 a gallon. The price is fair to watch democrats suffer.
Posted By: akrange Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/07/22
It took awhile but The King has made Good on his Pledge courtesy of his White Sock …

All Hail The King ..

Roll Them or They Roll You
Posted By: philgood80 Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/07/22
Originally Posted by Windfall
I've got to wonder why nobody is going after the big oil companies for price gouging and price fixing? Shell Oil just posted a 9.1 billion dollar profit for the first quarter of 2022 which was their highest profit ever! That was three times their typical quarterly profit margin in 2021. Okay some simple math. A barrel of crude oil was $120. on 6/21/22 and gas in these parts is $4.60 a gallon. Back a year or two back oil was hovering around $90.00 a barrel and gasoline was what $2.00 a gallon? A $30.00 increase of a barrel of oil is roughly 1/3 more. A 1/3 increase in oil should equal a $2.60 price of gasoline, not $4.60. I know that California has different formulated gasoline than the rest of the country, but you can't tell me that it costs an oil refinery double.

We also must remember that oil companies are going to be hesitant to reinvest profits in new leases or wells knowing that the current admin is trying to put them out of business. Sure they want them to pump more but that is because of polls, not because they care about people.

In addition, they don’t know what will happen in the next 2-3 years to their industry. They have personnel and pensions to pay and they can’t be certain how much longer they’ll be able to pay them. They’re holding onto capital to see how 2022 and 24 elections go.

Also, someone correct me if I am wrong but didn’t we just close a refinery in the SE recently and haven’t built one since the 70s??

Just how I see it.
Posted By: deflave Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/07/22
Not to beat up on California but they actually did vote to keep their gas prices higher than the rest of the country.

I believe that vote took place in 2018.
Posted By: deflave Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/07/22
Originally Posted by Windfall
I've got to wonder why nobody is going after the big oil companies for price gouging and price fixing? Shell Oil just posted a 9.1 billion dollar profit for the first quarter of 2022 which was their highest profit ever! That was three times their typical quarterly profit margin in 2021. Okay some simple math. A barrel of crude oil was $120. on 6/21/22 and gas in these parts is $4.60 a gallon. Back a year or two back oil was hovering around $90.00 a barrel and gasoline was what $2.00 a gallon? A $30.00 increase of a barrel of oil is roughly 1/3 more. A 1/3 increase in oil should equal a $2.60 price of gasoline, not $4.60. I know that California has different formulated gasoline than the rest of the country, but you can't tell me that it costs an oil refinery double.

Wisconsin strikes again.

LOL

How can anybody be this fugking stupid?
Posted By: deflave Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/07/22
Originally Posted by steve4102
Everyone that voted for Biden voted for this.

Biden made it no secret during the campaign that he was going to shut down the pipelines and domestic oil drilling and push through the Green New Deal.

And yes, millions of tree hugging Democrats are loving this schit.

Anyone here slip on over the the DU and see what the enemy is saying about this?

You mean like JeffO and Sycamore?
Posted By: Sharpsman Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/07/22
If the stupid b astard in the Black House wants to stem inflation he needs to STOP SPENDING $$$$$$$$$$$ and open up American oil production!! He’s never read German history of the 1920 era!!
Posted By: ribka Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/07/22
Originally Posted by 2ndwind
There are food shortages and huge price increases ahead. Gas and beef will be stolen in amounts unheard of until now.


I have had to spend more time in town than usual the past few days running errands. Glock 23 vs my Kahr PM 9. Head on a swivel. I put some extra effort into being polite and asked some folks how they were doing.... They are stressed. I paid 38.00 for a plastic 5 gallon gas can... it was the last one in stock.

We have a good supply of beans and rice. 4 different kinds of hot sauce at the moment.... I'd like to expand that selection to keep things interesting.

I'm pretty sure this isn't a drill.[/quote]

You're embarrassing. Remember in 2020 when oil was negative $30 a barrel? Your hero Biden and the EU just put massive oil and gas sanctions on Russia. Less product equal higher prices . Now India is buying oil in huge quantities from Russia, as the middle man, and the EU now has to go to India to buy at higher prices.


Do you understand economics? Anyone with brain bought a schit ton of oil stocks in 2020 and held them., I smile when I fill up now. Thanks Joey and idiotic Dems
Posted By: JPro Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/07/22
Originally Posted by Sharpsman
If the stupid b astard in the Black House wants to stem inflation he needs to STOP SPENDING $$$$$$$$$$$ and open up American oil production!! He’s never read German history of the 1920 era!!

Not saying he's not stupid, but he likely has no intention of stemming inflation.
Posted By: ribka Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/07/22
Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
It was breadlines and a starving population which brought about the dissolution of the USSR.

Same might be said of the French Revolution, though I am no expert on French History.

While hunger has long been used as a weapon, it seldom results in unification of "The People" behind the standing gov't which brought it about.

As Yamamoto declared, "I am afraid we have only just awakened a sleeping giant." So shall the Socialists learn when American parents start hearing their children cry from hunger.

But hey, there's a bright side. Real starvation in America will cure our excess immigration problem. People will be moving South by the multitudes.



JFC. It wasn't bread lines and starvation
Posted By: ribka Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/07/22
Originally Posted by ltppowell
I saw a guy selling baby formula out of the bed of a pickup in Mena, Arkansas today.

And Russian stores are fully stocked with food and baby formula now. Hmmm What does that mean?
Posted By: jaguartx Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/07/22
Originally Posted by ribka
Originally Posted by ltppowell
I saw a guy selling baby formula out of the bed of a pickup in Mena, Arkansas today.

And Russian stores are fully stocked with food and baby formula now. Hmmm What does that mean?

Uh, Putin screwed us. Ask Jell0.
Posted By: jaguartx Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/07/22
Originally Posted by Sharpsman
If the stupid b astard in the Black House wants to stem inflation he needs to STOP SPENDING $$$$$$$$$$$ and open up American oil production!! He’s never read German history of the 1920 era!!

The Manchurian candidate ruling from the basement and his handlers want inflation, economic collapse and food shortages to push their economic reset.
Posted By: pete53 Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/07/22
THRUTH ? we never lost the election in America if we went by an honest 2020 election ! why has the Supreme Court ignored the dishonest 2020 election ? hope for the best this fall 2022 and the removal of Biden / Harris dishonest 2020 election scandal !
Posted By: horse1 Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/07/22
Originally Posted by SamOlson
That's what I asked, mustard, mustard?


Yep.

I used to hunt with a landowner near Medicine Lake that grew Mustard. He trucked it to Great Falls to sell it.
Posted By: horse1 Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/07/22
Originally Posted by steve4102
Everyone that voted for Biden voted for this.

Biden made it no secret during the campaign that he was going to shut down the pipelines and domestic oil drilling and push through the Green New Deal.

And yes, millions of tree hugging Democrats are loving this schit.

Anyone here slip on over the the DU and see what the enemy is saying about this?

Not DU, but, my mid-60yr old neighbor who spent ~40yrs "on the floor" at a large manufacturer told me a couple of weeks ago:

"The prices of everything going up are because most CEO's are buddies w/Trump and they want to make the economy/inflation look bad for Biden so Trump can be re-elected in 2024."

That's what folks who voted for Biden listen to, believe, and parrot.
Posted By: akrange Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/07/22
Even the Stupid One’s get Vote ..
Yes.. Even the Stupid One’s
Posted By: EdM Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/07/22
Originally Posted by ihookem
Oil companies are making huge profits right now. A lot of people complaining about it but forget that just over 2 yrs. ago I payed 96 cents a gallon and 52 cents was tax. I did a lot of driving that summer. This summer, not so much. I have never been this concerned since Obama won the 1st election. There is something terribly wrong , to the point that it has to be being done on purpose. If the government can create a shortage, they get to pick who gets to eat, and that won't be the conservatives, the gun owners or the christians.

Most folks do not look at oil companies annual capital spend. I do as I was once one spending it.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/561546/shell-capital-expenditure/
Posted By: Teal Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/07/22
Originally Posted by EdM
Originally Posted by ihookem
Oil companies are making huge profits right now. A lot of people complaining about it but forget that just over 2 yrs. ago I payed 96 cents a gallon and 52 cents was tax. I did a lot of driving that summer. This summer, not so much. I have never been this concerned since Obama won the 1st election. There is something terribly wrong , to the point that it has to be being done on purpose. If the government can create a shortage, they get to pick who gets to eat, and that won't be the conservatives, the gun owners or the christians.

Most folks do not look at oil companies annual capital spend. I do as I was once one spending it.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/561546/shell-capital-expenditure/

Too many people equate revenue with earnings/profit to begin with. Literacy for business/financial subjects is horrible in this country.
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: 10.00 a gallon - 06/07/22
That's way too cheap.
© 24hourcampfire